Right Price for DWARE.

by thejanusman on Jul 15, 2009 9:29 AM CDT Comment 16 comments

I just saw this on ESPN..Terrell Suggs has been made the richest LB in NFL. The Contract pays him a signing bonus of close to $33.1 Million. Here is the link http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4328590. My Question is what would be a right price for DWARE? I am thinking him to be better than Suggs, but how far are the cowboys willing to go? I know there has been talking of more than $100 Million in total value, but is that realistic?

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I'm not sure about the $100 Mill

i think he deserves maybe a slight bump over Suggs, say 6 years, 65mill, but with the 3-4 fluff years likes Haynesworth has to make it a 100 million dollar contract or something like that, where you and he know you will never get to the final 3 years.

by stephen1 on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions

The right price for Ware?

Anything he wants! You do not want to blow it with a guy like this and let him get away.

by Mandmeisterx on Jul 15, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions

exactly

Jerry pretty much has to write him out a blank check and name his price, he’s clearly the best defensive player in the game, I personally don’t think it’s even close.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 15, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Obviously its not that straight forward

Both sides are still at an Impasse…I was wondering aloud why could that be? Its very clear both sides have different perceptions on the right value. Do you risk ostracizing others on the team by paying him an outlandishly huge contract?

by thejanusman on Jul 15, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think that's a risk at all

Everyone knows he’s a super stud and the key to our defense.

I personally don’t think they are at an impasse, I’m willing to bet he gets signed during camp.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 15, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

I think the good thing is that Ware isn't mad.

I’d be worried if he was mad that he didn’t get a deal yet, but he’s cool because he knows he’ll get paid. Class act.

by Mandmeisterx on Jul 16, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions

I think the Suggs deal hurts the Cowboys

Clearly Ware is a much better player than Suggs. I didnt realize how much that was true until I looked at the stats.

Suggs (6-3, 260 lbs, 27 yo next season)
’03 – 12 sacks, 18 tackles
’04 – 10.5 sacks, 46 tackles
’05 – 8 sacks, 47 tackles
’06 – 9.5 sacks, 47 tackles
’07 – 5 sacks, 52 tackles
’08 – 8 sacks, 53 tackles
Career – .55 sacks/gm, 2.74 taackles/gm, 3 Pro Bowls, 1 2nd team AP, Def Rookie of Year.

D Ware (6-4, 247 lbs, 27 yo next season)
’05 – 8 sacks, 47 tackles
’06 – 11.5 sacks, 59 tackles
’07 – 14 sacks, 60 tackles
’08 – 20 sacks, 69 tackles
Career – .84 sacks/gm, 3.67 taackles/gm, 3 Pro Bowls, 2 1st team AP and 1 2nd team AP, Def Player of Year runner-up in ’08, 6th best single season sack total in NFL history in ’08.

They were both top 10 picks coming into the league and although Suggs has played two more seasons, they are roughly the same age. Thats about where the similarities end. Ware has by far outperformed Suggs. I was surprised the difference was this great.

If Suggs gets just over $10M over 6 years, we can probably expect 8 yrs/$94M for Ware. That’s my guess. He hinted he was going to ask for his number (94) in millions, and I will bet he gets it. My concern is that T-Sizzle’s contract was heavily front loaded. So, unlike most contracts (Haynesworth), there is a good chance he will play this out. I say I’m concerned, but honestly, if he performs like he did last year for the majority of the deal, it will be worth it. Does anyone think a 25 sack season is out of the question for Ware?

by TCBinNYC on Jul 16, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions

Wasn't Suggs hurt for some games between 05 and 08?

Also, don’t forget that Rex Ryan’s defense is different than Wade’s and the Ravens will generally ask their LB’s to cover more than the Cowboys will.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jul 16, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions

He has to be the highest paid defensive player in the league

Anything short of that and he forces his way out. Ware is a guy you sign to a long term contract and just hope that he does not get injured, because he will probably be a bargain at the ehnd of the contract

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Jul 16, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions