Eagles Season Outlook 2009
I have quietly made peace over the last few months with the fact that the Philadelphia Eagles have become the flavor of the month for many analysts and writers, many of whom suddenly seem to think the Eagles are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Even Vegas isn't immune to the hyperbole. After opening with the Eagles at 12/1 odds for winning the Superbowl (ranked 6th), they have now moved them up to the No. 4 spot (11/1), just behind the Giants and tied with Dallas. So I asked myself, what gives? Here's a look at some of the imponderables I've been pondering.
One thing I will happily admit, the Eagles know how to run a franchise. Led by Andy Reid, GM Tom Heckert and team president Joe Banner, this is probably the best-managed franchise in the NFC. Since 2000, the franchise has been among the league's best, despite not delivering a Lombardi Trophy to the championship-starved Philly Faithful.
Since 2000, the Eagles have put together a .639 regular season winning percentage, best in the NFC and 4th in the NFL behind the Patriots, Colts and Steelers, garnered five division championships, five trips to the NFC title game and one Super Bowl appearance, and have been perennial contenders, not bad in a league of parity.
What have you done for me lately?
In a what have you done for me lately league, the last four years have seen the varnish coming off and showing a franchise struggling more than it has at the beginning of the decade. From 05-08 the winning percentage is down to a pedestrian .516, with only one 10 win season in 4 years. Two playoff appearances in that span have done little to appease the Philly fans, arguably the most hot-blooded, impatient and unreasonable bunch in sports.
And last season, the 9-6-1 Eagles clinched a playoff spot in one of the most bizarre ways imaginable, first receiving highly improbable help from the Raiders and Texans in the last week of the season and just barely scratching back into wild-card contention by the skin of their teeth. Then, in a rare display of intradivisional brotherly love, the Cowboys magnanimously threw in the towel in the last game of the season, only to see the Eagles fall just short of the Super Bowl - again.
In 2009, there will be no resting on the fact that they got to the NFC Championship game in 08. Green Bay in 07 and New Orleans in 06 also reached the Championship game, and both had mediocre seasons the next year. It's not unthinkable that Philly could follow their lead.
Season Outlook 2009
After reaching the postseason with a 9-6-1 record and delivering an improbable if impressive deep playoff run, the Eagles will be confident that they will reach the playoff again, but also know that a 9-6-1 will not be enough next year.
Their defense carried them in 2008. If the defense maintains its performance and the offense gets better at scoring touchdowns they're likely to make the playoffs again. If not, it will just be yet another ho-hum regular season in what's coming to look like a trend.
Stellar Defense
The Eagles sported a stellar defense in ’08, ranking in the Top 5 in almost every defensive category. 4th in points allowed, 3rd in yards allowed, 2nd in yards per play, 5th in defensive passer rating and 3rd in sacks.
It comes as somewhat of a surprise that on a defense this good, only the recently arrived Asante Samuel and the recently departed Brian Dawkins made the Pro Bowl last year. But it is also is a testament to DC Jim Johnson and his ability to form a cohesive and effective unit that he doesn't rely too much on star power. The Eagles' ruthless 46 attack and exotic and aggressive blitzes are his brainchild.
But what's most remarkable about this defense is its ability to get the ball back to the offense (who seem to have a hard time doing anything with it as I'll show later) or score directly. More often than not, NFL games are evenly matched wars of attrition in which one or two key plays typically prove the difference between victory and defeat. And the Philly stats show just how effective the defense was at creating these plays: 2nd in first downs allowed, 1st in blocked kicks, 3rd in defensive touchdowns, a respectable 11th in Interceptions. And they remained remarkably disciplined in the process, ranking 4th in defensive penalty yards.
Defense: Issues
The biggest issue on defense isn't about who's there this year, but who isn't. With Jim Johnson out and Brian Dawkins gone, this defense must reinvent itself while changing its leadership on the fly.
Long-time DC Jim Johnson is battling cancer and is on leave indefinitely. No matter what team you play or cheer for, we all hope for the best for Jim Johnson and his family. His presence and play-calling was the cornerstone, emotionally and schematically, for this defense. He will be sorely missed by everyone except opposing defenses. The fact that two people - Sean McDermott and Brian Stewart (good luck with him) - are being asked to fill his shoes shows just how important he was to the organization.
Another major physical and mental setback for the defense is 'defensive quarterback' Brian Dawkins leaving in free agency. While the secondary still looks deep and talented on paper, the young guys will need to step up and show that there is a future without Weapon X. Dawkins was the heart and soul of the team, it will be very hard to replace the leadership Dawkins provided for the Eagles and he will be virtually irreplaceable at safety.
Look for a lot more confusion on the defense, a significant increase in penalties and OCs testing the secondary through the air.
Offense
The Eagles had a solid offensive season in 08, ranking 6th in points scored, 9th in total yards and 14th in yards per play. As much as the defense might shine in 09, the outcome of the 09 campaign will hinge on how fast the new young players will get comfortable with Philly's complicated offense, and on McNabb and Westbrook staying healthy. And how likely is that? Not very. Last season was the first time McNabb was healthy enough to play in all 16 regular season games since 2003. Westbrook will be 30 in September and is battling a worn out knee and bad ankle.
The Philadelphia fans are clearly still thunderstruck by why Kevin Kolb was drafted with their 1st pick in 2007. And so far, there is little cause for optimism. He might be awesome in practice, particularly in the pocket, but has yet to show that he is able to read defenses in live game situations. Reid's plan of replacing McNabb for the rest of the season, starting in the Baltimore game, backfired royally. Kolb delivered a downright nasty performance, shelving any immediate plans of making him the starter anytime soon.
There are legitimate questions as to LeSean McCoy's ability to replace Westbrook in case of injury. Philly coaches have publicly questioned his blocking ability, and like all rookies on this team, he will need time to get up to speed with a complex play book. And as soon as the heretofore cautious opposing DCs realize that Westbrook isn't the homerun threat he used to be, this offense is in for a world of hurt.
With the run potentially becoming an even smaller part of the Philly game (is that even possible?) that just means that even more of the load will be on McNabb. McNabb doesn't have the legs he used to, so look for opposing DCs to bum rush McNabb at every opportunity. While Philly's quick-striking passing game inherently minimizes the number of sacks the OL gives up, look for McNabb to get sacked a lot more, especially with the pass-rush happy DCs in the NFC East.
And lest we forget, the Eagles were actually pretty fortunate last season regarding injuries, with only 24 games lost by starters due to injuries (14 of those were Shawn Andrews), ranking them 7th most injury free in the NFL. That luck may not hold this season.
Red Zone Woes
Apart from always being the bridesmaid in the postseason, the biggest source of anxiety attacks for Philly fans is this teams red zone performance. For one of the better offenses last year, the Eagles were highly inefficient in the red zone. The Eagles have no problems moving the football all over the field, but getting it into the endzone is another matter entirely.
The Eagles got into the red zone 63 times last year, ranking them an impressive 5th in the NFL, but less than half of those trips (49%) resulted in touchdowns, ranking them a very unimpressive 22nd in the NFL. The Eagles ended one loss inside the Bears' one yard line and another inside the Redskins' one.
Equally baffling was the their performance last season on third and fourth down plays for short yardage. Most of the time, they failed to convert in these situations and it looked like there simply wasn't anybody doing the blocking for the RB.
The Receivers
The WR position has become a recurring sore spot for the Eagles. Apart from T.O., the Eagles haven't had a true Nr. 1 receiver in the last couple of years. That may or may not change. DeSean Jackson is going to be the Nr. 1 this year. He proved that he can make plays if left in single coverage, but also at times felt like a one trick pony, breaking for the sideline when the pocket collapsed and catching very little else.
Kevin Curtis is back from multiple and probably painful groin surgeries and will likely be the No.2 guy, with the Eagles hoping he can return to 2007 form. First round pick Jeremy Maclin will be very busy learning the Eagles' intricate west coast offense. He will be groomed to become the eventual Nr. 1, but won't likely be doing too much outside of ST duties and spot duty on offense. Jason Avant has good hands and can go over the middle of the field for receptions and could be their surprise guy.
Jackson is 5-10, Curtis, Maclin and Avant are all 6-0, not exactly the height that makes these wideouts the go-to-guys in the dreaded red zone situations. Brent Celek (6-4) is likely to start at TE and could end up being the only legitimate red zone target as the only tall guy among the diminutive receivers.
Schedule
The schedule makers have not been kind to the Eagles this year. The Eagles have the ninth toughest schedule in the league with key away games against Carolina, San Diego, Chicago, Atlanta.
On opening day, the Eagles play in Carolina against the defending NFC South champs. No easy task, and the season might just get started on the wrong foot. They then face the offensive juggernaut from New Orleans at home, followed by a manageable game against the Chiefs before heading into an early bye-week in week 4. The Eagles might easily end up 1-2 at this point and better use this week well to prepare for a daunting 13 game stretch, including a brutal stretch from Weeks 7-9 at the Redskins, vs. the Giants, and vs. the Cowboys, followed by 4 away games in 5 weeks at the Chargers, Bears, Falcons and Giants. This mid-season stretch will make or break the Philly season and will determine whether there is anything left at stake when they meet the playoff bound Cowboys in the last game of the regular season.
If all the pieces fit, the Eagles still look like a strong playoff candidate. But the Eagles have been living on borrowed time the last couple of seasons. Look for their luck to run out in 2009.
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I think the Eagles will go 10-6. They have plenty of talent and good coaching. Their offensive line is composed of talented individuals, but I feel they will struggle especially early due to lack of cohesiveness.
I like Jackson as a WR, Maclin -who knows, but the rest don’t scare me.Westbrook is dangerous , but how many games will he played. I think McCoy can be a good RB, but blocking can be an issue for a pass happy offense. If I were DC especially early in the season, would dial up the pressure with all kinds of stunts and blitzes to take advantage of the OL not playing together especially if McCoy is in the lineup.
Is Kolb any good? Just another question that needs to be answered, along with how many games McNabb will play?
Their defense will still be good. They will miss Dawkins leadership, but he is a declining player. They don’t get better than Jim Johnson as a DC. Sean McDermott may turn out to be good, but it will hard to be as good as Mr. Johnson.
Plenty of questions about the Eagles remain to be answered along with the other teams in the East. Think it will go down to the last game between Cowboys, Eagles and Giants.
Worst Case Eagles 8-8 Best Case 12-4
My favorite semi pro teams are the Eagles and Giants
by RealAlbertEinstein on Jul 19, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions
You said that
The Eagles sported a stellar defense in ’08, ranking in the Top 5 in almost every defensive category. 4th in points allowed, 3rd in yards allowed, 2nd in yards per play, 5th in defensive passer rating and 3rd in sacks. And all this despite missing perennial Pro Bowler Shawn Andrews for 14 games. With Andrews likely back in the line-up, the Eagles will feature the biggest D-line in the league.
Shawn Andrews is an O-liner not a D-liner.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Good to see that is the only part of the aalysis you disagree with
Prime Time: If we were playing a game of pickup basketball, what should I expect?
Tony Romo: Well...I'd spot you 10 points if we were playing to 11.
by aussie_cowboy on Jul 19, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
*analysis
Prime Time: If we were playing a game of pickup basketball, what should I expect?
Tony Romo: Well...I'd spot you 10 points if we were playing to 11.
by aussie_cowboy on Jul 19, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
Don’t know how that sentence slipped into the D, I put it back into the O.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 19, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
it still sort of looks like
he is a part of the O-line, might just wanna take out the Andrews part.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Good Writeup
It came across as balanced to me. As you mentioned, McNabb’s health is starting to be an issue, and he and Westbrook are in the decline phase of their career. However, I do believe McNabb is one of the best quarterbacks in the conference. Even the Eagles fans turn on him in a heartbeat, but he’s had a great career.
One risk area for the Eagles offense this year is their two tackles. I am very curious how Jason Peters will pan out. On one hand, he’s a great talent and good left tackles are hard to find, so if he can mesh and play to his potential, they may not miss a beat losing Runyan. On the other hand, he had motivational problems, and you have to wonder how good he will be if Buffalo was so quick to part ways with him.
They keep drafting well enough that they’ll be at least decent this year, depending on the health of McNabb and Westbrook. I look for them to start slow and finish good and end up around 9-7 again.
Agree on all points
Health isissue number one, chohesiveness on O and D might be number two.
As OCC says, this is a good,solid franchise. I don’t look for them to fold. I’m going with 10-6.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Good post Cool!
This division truely can go in any direction. Key injuries at bad times will be the downfall of someone. You can make a strong case for anyone winning the division Even Wash with their top D and addition of Haynesworth. If everyones question marks works out it will come down to injuries. I think it will be that contested.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton
The Great Cycles of Dynasties
The Eagles have been the best team in the NFC this decade. Just like the Bills were the best AFC team from 1988 to 1995, and the Vikings were the best NFC team from 1972 to 1976, and so on. Which is to say, they were the best team of a runner-up conference.
The two conferences have alternated long periods of dominance, and we are in the tail end of the second great run by the AFC. The first period began with the Jets beating the Colts in Super Bowl III, and continued until 1980, when the Raiders won their second Super Bowl. During that stretch, they were 11-2 in Super Bowls. The NFC had an even greater period of dominance, winning 15 of 16 Super Bowls from 1981 to 1996. The Broncos mini-dynasty started the current period in 1997, and the AFC has won nine of the last 12 Super Bowls. The first period lasted 13 years, the second 16, so if the basic pattern holds, the AFC is expected to be the much better than the NFC for the next one to four years.
In theory, any team can win in any year, but the reality is we’ve had these great cycles of conference hegemony lasting a decade and a half, and the AFC’s turn on top is just about done. So if the pattern holds, it’s time for the NFC to ascend, and it’s too bad for the Eagles, because they are getting weaker as the conference is getting stronger. There’s no guarantee the Cowboys will be one of the dominant teams, because great franchises can materialize overnight (San Francisco in 1981, Washington in 1982, New England in 2001). But the Eagles look to have squandered a prime opportunity lasting almost a decade just being the best team in a poor conference.
I
believe that this year’s team is better than they have in Mcnabb’s other years. The window closes in about 3 years. The eagles have plenty of tome dude.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Unlikely
Historically quarterbacks peak at the age of 30, then start to decline. McNabb will turn 33 this season. His best years are almost certainly behind him, although he’s still a very good quarterback. Ditto for Westbrook. Other than that, you’re counting on Jackson to continue his great rookie season, which could well happen, plus untested rookies to fill the gap, and two new tackles to play at the same level as their predecessors. That’s basically a llot of wishful thinking. They’ll be good, but the days of going 12-4 and contending for the conference crown are probably over.
Amen brother. And I'm ready for some games.
This past couple of months has been brutal. I use to get a little excited by OTAs but they mean nothing. Veterans healing from surgeries or just trying to stay healthy and every rookie a great pickup. Everybodies working hard yada yada yada. it is time to strap it on!
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton
Im starting to believe your a closet Cowboy fan.
I was checking out your picture of the 2 cats and it pulled up your Bio page. You seemed to have more posts on here than the Eagle blog.
I just want you to know its OK to love the star. If you change your alligance now you could get in on our next run of Lombardi’s. If you get on after, they will just call you a fair weathered fan. Come to the force Luke.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton
You like the pics?
Those posts are from a whole buch of arguements I get into.
I really like to start them.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
I also
have 4 fanposts and 3 fanshots there but none here. I have 40 more comments there (BGN) also, there is just nothing going on at the eagles blog so I decided to troll over here.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Those cats
Arent they the genetically alter ones. I either had a dream or remember reading about them.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton
Are they clones or something?
Or do they just glow in the dark?
All eyes on Free.
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 20, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It's like jellyfish
genes or something. You can pet them but it stings like hell.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Imagine that's a neighbor's beast
you couldn’t let your kids outside…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Well said. Bravo.
The Falcons have been so snake-bitten in their history (never had back-to-back winning seasons) you have to wonder if they’ll be the dynasty that materializes overnight.
As someone who lives in Atlanta and knows many Falcons fans, they certainly believe that is the case with Ryan, Turner, and White leading the way on offense. However, I myself am not sure. I think Turner is a great back, but if you have a good D-line you can make him run east and west which is a huge weakness for him. He has good vision, but he is a guy who relies extremely heavily on his o-line to open him some holes. And while that sounds extremely obvious to say, I make that distinction because he is not a back like Emmitt or even Choice who can make a very small crevice into a 4 or 5 yard gain. It is for this reason that he didn’t have a great game against the Cardinals in the playoffs because Dansby was able to control the middle. So I guess what I am trying to say is that I am not sure they have the offensive line to consistently control games with him when matched up against a good run-D. And while Ryan is in my opinion a very good QB, we have only seen one year of him and he benefitted from a ridiculously easy schedule last year regarding pass defense (AFC West and NFC North). Plus, this year they have a much harder schedule against the NFC East and the AFC East, and they play 5 games against teams coming off byes (including Dallas). This is not to mention the fact that there pass-D is questionable and their run-D isn’t dominating either. The Falcons I think will be a solid team, but I can easily seeing them drop down to a 8-8 or 9-7 level from their 11-5 level of last year.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 19, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Great points.
Also when at least one poster last season pushed for Turner as MVP, I had to point out that a huge chunk of his yards came during games against the Lions and Rams; horrible run defenses. If I was being totally objective; would I rather have Turner over Barber? Yeah, probably. But as far as I’m concerned, Barber is the type of passionate player that deserves every penny he gets especially considering what overpaid wussified basketball players get. Market dictates value.
I have no idea what the Falcons will do. I think for most of America they’d be totally out of left field as the next NFL superpower and they have a fair core. I mean given that Michael Turner was a back-up forever, he has at least three solid seasons in him as the load-burdener. As for Ryan, I did think he threw an awful lot of picks at BC. I have no idea how he’ll turn out. I think he’ll turn out better than Flacco at least.
I agree that they’re certainly nothing more than merely competent on defense. I just threw them out there as a candidate out of central casting as the next team out of nowhere that turns into a dynasty. Your guess is as good as mine as to what will actually become of them.
Ya know
I dont really think the eagles are living on luck now. Minus 2006 the Eagles have been steadily improving since after the SB lose. The team then was old and ful of imported talent. Now with the eagles having a youth movement I expect the eagles to become even better. Westback is quietly being phased out, Mcnabb will play for 3-4 if he’s lucky 5 years. I believe in Kolb, in the Raven’s game he had no idea he would be playing then, he was playing against the 2nd best defence in the league, and the pick to Reed in the endzone was the result of bad playcalling. Kolb probably wont ever be one of the best but he will live up to being a second round pick.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
I don't think they are either
They are living on good depth and great coaching. Westy and McNabb are only a question mark because they have been so critical to success. It may be that they can be replaced in extremis, but that still has to be deomonstrated.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I hate to pick nits Cool, but you seriously weakened your analysis when you
failed to provide one of your patented numerical tables built on complex algorithms. It could have been anything, really. A comparison of McNabb’s performances with and without Campbell’s Chunky Soup; correlation of arrests at Lincoln Financial and starting field position; cheesesteak sales and run/pass splits called by Reid. That sort of thing.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Pssst
here I was going for an image change on this board, stealthily trying to sneak numbers into full sentences and you go and blow my cover, exposing me as someone with an astute analytical mind (coughstatgeekcough).
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I noticed, but you need to embrace your inner statistician
Although I admit, my examples were poor. Cheesesteak sales and arrests at the Linc are nearly infinite numbers…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Or when you failed to mention any of the Eagles stud young guys
Particularly Broderick Bunkley, who was one of the NFC’s top 4-3 DTs last year. I understand that Jim Johnson’s loss hurts, but this a young defense overall and one that I have to think is on the way up, not down. Their LBs are all young and improving, with Bradley looking like a legit player, and their DL was very good last year, much to my chagrin.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I hate , hate, hate the Eagles: but can't help but notice....
the inevitable negative spin in the article. I guess it’s as close to impartial as a Cowboy fan can get and I congratulate you on another well written and interesting piece.
As for me, I dread the Eagles games more than the Giant games, because the defense seem just as aggressive and intimidating for different reasons; The Giants have the D-Line that attacks and out mans their O-line counterparts; but the Eagles seem to be better in all the defensive backfield positions and probably work better as a unit. The Key will be can they continue this great team play and coordination without Johnson?
The Offense has the potential to be even better than last year with the acquisitions they have made in FA and in the draft. Now can any of these rookies make a difference; I don’t know, but if Maclin can, they will be even scarier!
I am sure all the Eagle fan are really excited about what can be this year; but as for me I am scared, scared, scared!
+1
Dallas and the Skins and Giants nearly always play each other evenly. The Eagles seem to cause the most problems for Dallas and appear to have made solid moves in the off-season, so it’ll a true test of Dallas as to whether the off-season approach is working.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Plus Romo....
….Always seem to have one of his stinkiest toilet bowl specials against the Eagles. He’s never had a real bad crapper against the Giants. Hell, if that buffoon T.O. can catch a simple crossing route that a little baby girl could catch on 4th-and-short Romo might have even been able to pull out a win against them in his first cameo appearance on MNF.
But against the Eagles? I always have an imminent sense of dread that Romo is going to cook up a patented shitburger against those birds that don’t fly straight.
i know how you feel
Romo has played well every single time hes faced the giants aside from his first couple plays taking over Bledsoe. But with the Eagles, his performances break down rather simply – in the first matchup, he rocks the house, in large part because our oline is a wall. IN the second matchup, the Eagles D is all over him and he can’t get anything going at all.
I always felt their team just hates us more than we hate them.
The fact they stay disiplined is even more bothersome.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton
Somewhat accurate, but I definitely have some problems with this assessment...
Two playoff appearances in that span have done little to appease the Philly fans, arguably the most hot-blooded, impatient and unreasonable bunch in sports.
Just a dumb comment… You’re better than that, One Cool.
The fact that two people – Sean McDermott and Brian Stewart (good luck with him) – are being asked to fill (Jim Johnson’s) shoes shows just how important he was to the organization.
Sean McDermott will be running the defense, not Brian Stewart. Stewart is merely an assistant. The loss of Jim Johnson is absolutely, positively the biggest concern on this team. But that said, Johnson is churning out a Bill Walsh-esque list of proteges that have flourished since moving along after his tutilage (Steve Spagnuolo, Leslie Frazor, John Harbaugh, etc.).
Dawkins was the heart and soul of the team, it will be very hard to replace the leadership Dawkins provided for the Eagles and he will be virtually irreplaceable at safety.
Look for a lot more confusion on the defense, a significant increase in penalties and OCs testing the secondary through the air.
This defense is full of smart character guys. It’s not like they’re suddenly going to forget how to play football because Dawkins is gone. I think some of Dawkins’ talents will be missed, but his “leadership” intangible (although appreciated) is a complete non-issue.
The Philadelphia fans are clearly still thunderstruck by why Kevin Kolb was drafted with their 1st pick in 2007. And so far, there is little cause for optimism. He might be awesome in practice, particularly in the pocket, but has yet to show that he is able to read defenses in live game situations. Reid’s plan of replacing McNabb for the rest of the season, starting in the Baltimore game, backfired royally. Kolb delivered a downright nasty performance, shelving any immediate plans of making him the starter anytime soon.
Totally disagree. I think most fans (myself included) hated that pick back in ‘07, but I don’t think any educated fan is throwing in the towel on the guy based on ONE game in which he was put into a game in the 3rd quarter against one of the best defenses of recent memory that clearly had a beat on our gameplan. Right now, there’s very little to go on with Kolb. The coaches constantly praise him, and have shown how much they think of him by benching McNabb in the first place. I’m still very much optimistic.
Philly coaches have publicly questioned (Lesean McCoy’s) blocking ability
I’m totally aware of any quotes of that nature. I’m not disputing that claim (yet), but I’m curious where you read that. Do you have a link?
For one of the better offenses last year, the Eagles were highly inefficient in the red zone. The Eagles have no problems moving the football all over the field, but getting it into the endzone is another matter entirely.
I’ll absolutely agree the red zone offense was terrible last year. However, it deserves mentioning that the additions of Jason Peters, Shawn Andrews, Stacy Andrews, and FB Leonard Weaver will go a long way in improving that area.
The Eagles ended one loss inside the Bears’ one yard line and another inside the Redskins’ one.
Nitpicking here, but the Redskins loss inside the one was a deep ball to Reggie Brown, not a red-zone situation.
(DeSean Jackson) proved that he can make plays if left in single coverage, but also at times felt like a one trick pony, breaking for the sideline when the pocket collapsed and catching very little else.
100% nonsense. Jackson did an excellent job coming back toward McNabb when plays broke down.
Jackson is 5-10, Curtis, Maclin and Avant are all 6-0, not exactly the height that makes these wideouts the go-to-guys in the dreaded red zone situations. Brent Celek (6-4) is likely to start at TE and could end up being the only legitimate red zone target as the only tall guy among the diminutive receivers.
Hank Baskett is also 6’4, and they drafted another potential contributor in Cornelius Ingram (also 6’4).
On opening day, the Eagles play in Carolina against the defending NFC South champs. No easy task, and the season might just get started on the wrong foot. They then face the offensive juggernaut from New Orleans at home, followed by a manageable game against the Chiefs before heading into an early bye-week in week 4. The Eagles might easily end up 1-2 at this point
Maybe, or perhaps they’re 3-0. Who knows? I do know this… Barring a major injury, Philly will be favored in all 3 games.
If all the pieces fit, the Eagles still look like a strong playoff candidate. But the Eagles have been living on borrowed time the last couple of seasons. Look for their luck to run out in 2009.
I’m not sure what “borrowed time” means. Is it supposed to mean their window is closing? If so, I’ll note that McNabb is 32 and Westbrook is 30, so sure, those 2 guys are getting up there, but the offensive starters average 27.18 years of age and the defensive starters average 26.36 years old. This team is set up to be good for a long time.
Hey One.Cool.Customer
How bout you post this over at the Eagles Blog and see what they think of it.
If you won’t I will.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
or at least I will post a link to it.
Can’t break copyright laws.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Wow
A lot of lips will be moving, slowly, tonight.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
You know what?
I read that earlier, and didn’t get it… And then I saw someone “laugh” it, so I thought, wait, let me read that again. Still nothing.
Then, as I was navigating away from the page, it was like… “Ooooooh, we read like 6 year olds! Wait… Heeeeeeyyyyy!”
It's been 49 years since the Eagels won a chip.
Make it 50.
They are going to miss Dawkins like they missed Dirty Watters.
The Eagles Defense was built around Dawkins coming to the line of scrimmage and he was an intimidating force in the secondary.
They can’t replace that. He saved there season last year.
The draft was not about this year. They drafted the pieces to go around Kolb next year after McNabb leaves.
If Kolb would have done anything against the Ravens McNabb wouldn’t even be the Eagles QB right now. .
They played MN who has no QB and the Giants without Plax.
They played the Cardinals who they blew out a month before and choked like they always do.
There O line is being rebuilt. Runyan was the Offensive line’s heart.
Who knows when Shawn Andrews is going to have to take time off for dealing with being gay.
It’s been 49 years. Make it 50.
i can't believe i'm even addressing this rubbish....
Where do i start….
The Eagles Defense was built around Dawkins coming to the line of scrimmage and he was an intimidating force in the secondary.
Wrong. Very very wrong. Our current defense is built by Jim Johnson and it includes all players contributing. If the defense was built around Dawkins, then Dawkins would easily have inflated numbers… he doesn’t. I don’t even know what it means to build a defense around one player. Who would ever do that? Players come and go. You obviously don’t know how defenses work. How did he “save” our season?
The draft was not about this year. They drafted the pieces to go around Kolb next year after McNabb leaves
I’m speechless. Was YOUR draft about this year? It’s sad have to be telling you this, but most drafts aren’t about this year especially when drafting skill positions. Usually one can’t assess the effectiveness of a draft until three years later. Also, Mcnabb extended his contract. He’ll be around for more than a year. Please do a tiny bit of research before posting… you should know this stuff if you are going to be a cowboys fan posting opinions on a blog.
If Kolb would have done anything against the Ravens McNabb wouldn’t even be the Eagles QB right now. .
Again, completely untrue. Andy Reid went on the record saying that no matter what happens or happened, Mcnabb would continue to be the starting QB. To think otherwise is to think without logic because even if Kolb played like a beast the second half, Mcnabb is the better, veteran quarterback. You have to be an absolute moron to bench Mcnabb under Kolb. To believe that would have happened (if Kolb played well) makes you sound like a 7 year old.
I’m actually done picking apart your senseless comment. You obviously aren’t a knowledgable football fan. Runyan as the O-line’s heart? I love him but whaaaat? Shawn Andrews being "gay’? Please grow up.
Cowboys fans, can you fix this kid?
On another note, i would like to say this was a well written, well researched article. It was definitely on the pessimistic side of the bus, but it was objective…. way more objective than i could ever be about the Cowboys. Well done.
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Jul 20, 2009 4:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Good write up
I agree almost 100%
But I think this is a big indicator that we all, Cowboys and Eagles fans alike need football immediately. We hate the Eagles, but here we are talking about them. They hate the Cowboys, but still, they’re here, on a Cowboys blog.
I hope and pray the next week and a half pass quickly.
Epic Fail since 1985
“I agree almost 100%
But I think this is a big indicator that we all, Cowboys and Eagles fans alike need football immediately. We hate the Eagles, but here we are talking about them. They hate the Cowboys, but still, they’re here, on a Cowboys blog."
If you wright they will come.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
lmao....two wright's make a wong?
Dubinsky from the Jersey shores alright.
Clearly
I actually know how to spell “write”. ;)
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Jul 20, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever
LOL.
I HATE that I can’t edit my own posts because I do my best spell checking once I hit “post”.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Yeah
I hate 90% of my posts. Right after you hit “post” you’ll always notice the little grammatical errors or think of a better way to say what you just posted. It’s rough.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Jul 21, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
at least your caps key works...
Prime Time: If we were playing a game of pickup basketball, what should I expect?
Tony Romo: Well...I'd spot you 10 points if we were playing to 11.
by aussie_cowboy on Jul 21, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
dude
you have to copy and paste what you want in block quotes in between the “><” It’s gonna say “blockquote>copy shit here</blockquote.” It goes in between
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Jul 21, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
+1000
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. Gen. George Patton
aha
blockquote>you truly are an Eagles fan, lol<blockquote
The best of them all.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
lemme try again
you truly are an Eagles fan, lol
this better have worked
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Johnson moreso than Dawkins
Either way, Philly has to be considered the preseason favorite in the NFC.
The O-Line has been revamped, the D-Line has seen the emergence and development of Bunkley and Patterson and Trent Cole is a terror.
Their perceived weaknesses revolve around the skill positions;
For instance, any Eagle fan who says Romo can’t win the big game has a myopic view of the world that blinds them from seeing that their own QB has probably one last run around the track before he gets put out to pasture.
Brian Westbrook is on the Vegas boards for 12 as the over/under on games he will be healthy enough to play in this season. Under is attracting most of the early smart money.
DeSean Jackson looks like another Santana Moss (maybe a bit quicker) but his speed and cutting ability put more pressure on McInjury to make consistently accurate throws to get him the ball in stride. History says he will make mistakes at crucial moments.
Maclin was a steal and you have to give them credit for jumping up and getting him. I think people lamenting his route running and concentration are haters. This guy can play and all CB’s will need to be worried about him taking any catch to the house.
The bad; they are the NFC’s best team on paper.
The good; what good has that done the best team on paper the last 10 years?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I consider them the top seed going in
just as I did Dallas last season. But it is so unpredictable these days I wouldn’t put money on anyone…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Actually
Either way, Philly has to be considered the preseason favorite in the NFC.
I think it should be the Giants. Sure the Eagles won but they got lucky. Giants were totally out of rhythm back then. Giants d-line is MUCH more stack than the Eagles d-line and the Giants offense has established an identity that is smash you in the mouth; at the same time the Eagles offense basically have no identity save for McNabb and Westbrook (when healthy which doesn’t happen much). Hell the Eagles got lucky to beat the Vikings. Their offense got lucky with one big play to Westbrook going for the winner TD. The Eagles offense will still struggle especially with Westbrook always hurt and the usual Andy Reid offense that is just passing. McNabb is probably the best QB in the NFC I must admit, but the trend recently shows that he hasn’t been healthy consistently (even though last year he started all games).
Haha, "lucky"
If by “lucky,” you mean to say that the Eagles totally outplayed both the Giants and Vikes, then you’re absolutely right.
Here's the problem with that, Burt...
The dropoff from from Spagnuolo to Bill Sheridan is more likely to be a more precipitous one than from Jim Johnson to Sean McDermott.
Isn’t it amazing how the Jim Johnson coaching tree is beginning to spread?
I hated him for what he did to Dallas over the years, but I have the utmost respect for the man and what he has accomplished, even in the face of some truly apocalyptic meltdowns by his offensive counterparts.
Without him on the sidelines, the NFL has lost a degree of class and professionalism.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
yea sure
I consider them the preseason favorite…with the caveat that preseason favorite in this conference means 100% absolutely nothing. In fact, you can safely bet that the preseason favorite will NOT represent the conference in the superbowl. Recent history says it will be an unexpected team too, not even a real favorite.
But usually a team from the NFC East!
:-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
huh?
3 out of the last 10 years i believe an east team has represented the conference. Philly once, NYG twice…although i don’t remember when exactly that ravens superbowl was
If you want to go to conference championships sure but our division despite the competition has not had any more success than others when it comes to getting to the superbowl.
Also, 6 times in the last 4 years us, the giants and washington have been one and done.
A breakdown of the Eagles offense from my buddy who is a die-hard Eagles fan
I love swapping e-mails with my friend who lives in Philly before the season to preview each other’s teams and talk a little noise. We’re both always instinctively pessimistic but with some cautious optimism in there as well. Here’s what he e-mailed me about the Eagles offense, word for word:
Offensive Line
Went through quite a transformation this offseason on the line, and barring injury and psychological breakdowns it looks like the line is going to look like the following:
LT Jason Peters, LG Todd Herremans, C Jamaal Jackson, RG Stacey Andrews, RT Shawn Andrews
Jason was a good run blocker in Buffalo. The question remains if he can handle 50 pass sets a game against the best edge pass rushers in the nation. In minicamps we asked him to redo his drop-step in order to fit with the techniques Juan Castillo (our line coach) demands of his guys. We’ll see how he looks week 1 against the Panthers. The center of the line remains intact and both Todd and Jamaal are steady steady players. I dont see them making a quantum leap but can hold the middle down pretty well for us. The right side of the line is where I am most concerned. Although JP is learning new technique, as a former TE he is athletic enough to pick things up fairly quickly. Our new RG is coming off an ACL injury and and our new RT is coming off a severe case of depression…I am not sure what is worse. They also happen to be brothers – wtf. Both have the ability to play at a Pro Bowl level. If they get their shit together the right side of the line could certainly be a strength. This line is huge and is built to pound the ball. Let just say if this line were blocking in NY for Earth Wind and Fire, the giants would have another America’s Game showing on NFL Network. Unfortunately, Reid thinks running the ball is stupid and boring versus having recievers run triple moves 30 yards downfield. I give Jason Peters 6 games before he asks for a trade to a team that understands the concept of a balanced offense.
QB
We all know this Cinderalla story – clock hasnt hit midnight just yet for McNabb. Giving him a pay raise should help him keep his head in the game.
WRs / TEs
I am putting this group together because none of our TEs actually know how to block, so they are basically ovesized wideouts. This is a solid group (disregard Tim’s comments about these guys all being bums). Its a deep and experienced and Maclin and Ingram add some legit speed to what we do fairly well already.
1. Action Jackson – Fast as they come. Very good route runner who is only getting better. Tracks the deep ball extremely well – which is perfect for McNabb. Doesnt show his hands until he has to which makes it very tough for corners to figure out when to turn their head. His father passed in the offseason and he has already dedicated this season to his dads memory – which hopefully is a motivating factor. It doesnt appear that he put on any weight in the offseason, which is obv a concern for those that would like him to see more than 3 NFL seasons. Laron Landry almost killed him last year when he cam across the middle. He also cant block anyone…i mean anyone. He has trouble getting around ppl getting off the elevator at the NovaCare Complex.
2. Kevin Curtis – Fast and smart route runner. Is an ideal slot man which is what he will become if/when Maclin progresses. However he is white and getting older. He also wears a ridiculous headband to locker room interviews and is extremely soft spoken. He reminds me of sunshine from remember the titans. He also dropped a 3rd down pass last year in the SuperBowl. I hate him for that.
3. Jason Avant – Strongest and best blocker of the bunch. Has extremely strong hands and jawline. The man takes hit after hit over the middle and holds on consistently. He reminds me of a young Hines Ward. He even has the ridiculous grin on his face after big hits. He is also not angry or imposing in any way off the field – which annoys me. I want my football players in a constant emotional state of anxiety and bitterness towards everyone. James Harrison needs to come in and talk to these fools.
4. Kendra Wilkinson – I am not sure if he is going to even show up for training camp and if so, I am not sure if he has run a route or caught a football since January. My guess is he is going to fake a groin injury and just sit on a stationary bike all through August texting Heff and looking at pictures from his honeymoon. Before he tied the knot he had turned into a speciall teams ace and is the biggest WR we have on the team at 6’4. Amazlingly he has caught one fade pass in 4 years, yet holds the high jump record at New Mexico. It boggles my mind why we havent used him in the redzone more. I blame Cinderella and his inability to fit footballs into small spaces.
5. Reggie Brown – Former second round pick, former starter, former love of my life. 2 years ago I compared him to Marvin Harrison and Wilson scoffed at me. I maybe rescinding that prediction at this point. Eat one Wilson.
6. Jeremy Maclin/Torry Holt – Ah our beloved first round pick. J-Mac didnt run the full route tree in college so when you ask him what a post corner is he just smiles at you blankly. Thus far he has been nothing but a student of the game and is supposedly picking things up well. We’ll see what happens come Sept. He has all the skills to be productive in the NFL and I think he and Jackson are going to terrorize you Wilson for the next decade.
7. Brent Celek – Here is what i know about Brent. He caught two tds in the SuperBowl last year (no one cared to cover him since they thought he was matt schobel). I then proceeded to chug two beers and watch clips of Tom Selleck running with his shirt off on youtube ( i was later informed that Brents last name was spelled CELEK not SELLECK). I am not sure what to make of Brent. He was this goofy white guy we drafted in day 2 from Cincy. He was an average blocker and above average receiver coming out of college and his highlight was a busted play he scored against Rutgers. He started to grow on me a lot last year when LJ decided to mail it in. As previously noted, he exploded in the playoffs and really has gained McNabbs confidence from what I am hearing from my locker room cam. He is our #1 TE so I am excited to see what he has accomplished this offseason. I imagine him to be Mr. Super Reliable like Chad Lewis but we’ll see. He has pictures of Witten and Cooley on his bedroom ceiling – its weird but kind of cool.
8. Cornelius Ingram – He had the Ronnie Brown effect on my this year (remember bunny when i would run around in 2005 and talk about how awesome ronnie brown looked at the combine). A former QB who runs a 4.6 and weighs 245 http://www.gatorcountry.com/images/uploads/football/IngramCornelius_090318_5066.jpg.
I imagine making a tshirt with him on the front and bunk on the back. He has all the tools to scare the shit out of a defense. Urban Meyer supposedly built his offense around Ingram before Ingram got injured. He is recovering from a serious knee injury but has held up thus far in camp. Oh yea he also doesnt know how to block – minor detail. I look forward to him terrifying safeties and lbs for years to come.
The Eagles 4 WR set is going to be nasty next year, if everyone is healthy. Jackson, Curtis and Maclin are fast enough to give secondaries a lot of problems. Contending with threats at all 3 levels (short, intermediate, deep) is a tall task for any d-coordinator – makes me feel good about staying in every game no matter what our defense does.
RBs
By far my biggest concern on this offense. My star running back is 30 and coming off ankle surgery. He also faded late last year while my other 30+ year old FS was out forcing fumbles and single handedly winning games for us. For those of you that do not know my backup running back is Lorenzo Booker…take a moment to let that name sink in. Although cerebral he is a giant pussy on the field. He does not break tackles, or pass protect. He does quote philosophy and reads alot. Its a good thing we traded for him. I am extremely bitter because I thought he was the next westbrook – a mistake I make with every player the eagles show interest in. Just like I thought Matt Schobel was going to tear up NFC East defenses when we picked him up 3 years ago. Notice i did not include him in my WR/TE writeup. That is because Schobel usually is tapping kegs and cooking up cheese steaks between the hours of 1 and 6pm on sunday afternoon. There are not many people I would roundhouse kick to the face in person but Matt is one of them. Anyway I digress…back to running backs. Westbrook is injured, Booker blows…but wait we do have LeSean McCoy who we drafted in the second round. He looks to be the real deal, ran and caught the ball very well in minicamps. Still learning how to pass block in our offense, which will take time. Because our offense is so complicated not a lot of first year backs get playing time because they cant follow the 20 second monologue of a play McNabb spews out in the huddle.
This is classic Reid by the way. Every year he chooses one position to completely ignore while everyone else in the NFL is screaming at him to take notice. 2 years ago it was KR/PR – see reno mahe, and then last year it was a fullback. This year it appears to be running back. Oh well. At least we signed Leonard Weaver to play FB. He is also the only fullback I know of that wears eyeglasses to all his interviews. You are paid to blow up 250lbs try to act like a badass please. If I had it my way everyone on my team would answer questions at the podium in a Darth Maul robe.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Informative
and hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Haha-- yeah, it's fun injecting some personality into the previews, and real fans know the unique quirks of their teams to do it
I sent him a counterpoint one on the Boys D today.
I think it’s gonna be Maclin/Jackson vs. Jenkins/Scandrick for years to come.
I also think the Igor/Spencer vs. the Andrews brothers match-up in the run game will be a fascinating “strength vs. strength” battle.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Those are great match-ups
I was thinking about Jenkins and Scandrick today when I was reading about the Eagles’ receivers. Those two might have their hands full, but this is the first time in years I’ve thought the secondary might be up to the challenge.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
However he is white and getting older.
What is that supposed to mean?
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
It's called humor.
I thought it was funny how the guy kept saying the Eagles were in the Super Bowl last year. lol.
will it work?
I thought it was funny how the guy kept saying the Eagles were in the Super Bowl last year. lol.
I did it!!!
triumphant music
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
Yeah, he has adopted the NFC Championship as their version of the Super Bowl
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
About Maclin
they say he will be a difference maker, but in all reality, he has to beat out Kevin Curtis, DeSean Jackson and Reggie Brown to earn playing time on the field. Odds aren’t in his favor for having a spot on that offense. Maybe returning kicks but as far as the cowboys go, they got a big power kicker now set on blasting it through the end zone each time so that won’t matter.
Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!
by ProBowlFactory on Jul 21, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions
I don’t think we’re really looking for Maclin to make a huge impact this season, but if he does… great. Like you said, there’s still Jackson, Curtis, Brown, and even Jason Avant and Hank Baskett. Maclin will definitely see some playing time as a rookie, but sporadically.
As for returning kicks, that responsibility will likely go to Ellis Hobbs, with Maclin serving as the punt returner.
the eagles
dawkins will seriously be missed. i cannot believe how much is being downplayed. you will see what I mean when you guys play denver.
westbrook is a beast. if he is healthy he will be even better. not only does he have that massive o-line, he gets weaver too? /sigh
mcnabb will be fine. more WRs to throw to. that can only get better. desean + avant + westbrook. plus kevin curtis and celek. /sigh
i really wanted to see the boys draft jackson last year. i really like him. but i was glad to see he had some maturity problems for the eagles last year. and take him off returns already … /sigh
JJ and his blitz schemes will be missed. i hope that the eagles are less effective at being a terrorizing defense and have less turnover/tds. however i doubt that he has not passed on all his wisdom already and hope his health doesn’t become a problem. coaching isn’t a concern to me.
i am not gonna throw out any predictions, cuz i cannot even predict my own team let alone the eagles. i really think the offense got some help with some young guys. but I have doubts that the defense can keep those same statistical categories (not saying they will drop to the bottom, but i think they will be more like 6-7th as opposed to 3-4th).
nfc east is by far the toughest division and i hope the tables turn for the cowboys this year. not to wish any bad luck on any team/player … but its probably gonna come down to injuries. good luck you bastards.
dawkins will seriously be missed. i cannot believe how much is being downplayed. you will see what I mean when you guys play denver.
Downplayed? Every hack sports writer across the country is harping on the loss of Dawkins. And I don’t want to minimize his abilities – he was the defense player of the month in December last year, and is my favorite player of all time. But the leadership aspect is complete nonsense. The defense is FULL of smart character guys that aren’t suddenly going to forget how to play football because Dawkins is gone.
but i was glad to see (Desean Jackson) had some maturity problems for the eagles last year.
You said maturity problems… problems, as in plural, meaning more than one. Sure, he dropped the ball before he got into the endzone against Dallas (which by the way, it wasn’t like he was doing the chicken dance or something at the 1, but that’s another debate). Anyway, that dumb play aside, what else did he do that you would classify as immature?

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