Open Thread: Killing Off the Offseason
by Dave Halprin on Jul 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT
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Our long national nightmare is over. Since this is Sunday, the start of a new week, and on Wednesday of this week, the Dallas Cowboys will hold their first training camp practice; I'm declaring the offseason officially over! It's business time for the NFL and the multitude of fans that have suffered endless months of football-free madness. Soon, we'll all be able to slake our thirst for real football news and things that matter.
Forget the collapse at the end of last season - ancient history. The teeth-gnashing we all felt after that ignoble defeat at the hands of the Iggles can now be replaced by optimism and hope. There's nothing like the start of a new season to stir up the promise of better days, anything is possible for any team at this moment in time. All it takes is some talent, a lot of hard work, a dash of luck, and your team can be hoisting the Lombardi Trophy at the end of the season. At least that's what we all believe at this time. (Although I'd have to check with Lions and Raiders fans to know for sure).
Tomorrow, I'll be posting more on BTB's coverage of training camp. We'll have three people in attendance at various times; Rafael, Aaron and me. You know we'll work like crazy to bring you all the coverage we can in these formative weeks of the 2009 season.
Since BTB has declared the offseason over - and it's a Sunday with little news - consider this an open thread for everybody's thoughts on the upcoming training camp and how exciting it is to have real football back in a matter of days.
Here are some headlines for reading material:
Keith Brooking honored with surprise Atlanta send off.
Junior Siavii happy Dallas Cowboys gave him a nose job.
Todd Archer: Moment of truth for the Dallas Cowboys.
Star-T: Dallas Cowboys’ circus is back, with Wade, others walking tightrope.
SA E-N: Is this year Wade Phillips' last stand?
DMN: Dallas Cowboys head into training camp hoping to minimize drama.
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I hope for entertaining season! I'm full of fear and Optimism!
Entertaining to we means Cowboy’s wins! Not lucky wins, but dominating wins!
I am so tired of going through the season watching us play to the level of our competion and fearing every single team we play! I am tired of watching last quarter come backs, or holding on against teams final minute drives. While some may say these are the things that make football exciting; I say I’m tired of that kind of excitement and if we lead from opening kick off to the end of regulation and win every game by 21 points, well I couldn’t be more excited and I would watch every second of every game and be so happy I could just…….well you know!
Oh. 1st! LOL
by bad knees on Jul 26, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I too
get sweaty palms from watching close games. I actually prefer that were going into the season with lowered expectations than last year.
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by BlueZombie on Jul 26, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're almost there!
Hey, I’ve organized a group of friends and we’ll be at the Kickoff Ceremony Tuesday night and staying in town for the first practice Wednesday.
I’ll prolly show up extra early by myself to just soak it in. If anyone else is gonna be hangin Tues and Wednesday, lemme know.
Also, if any of the BTB staff finds themselves there, I’d be honored to buy you guys the first round of beers of the Football Season. Sure do appreciate all your hard work and wanna thank ya’ll for helping us slay this damned undead we call the off-season.
I’ll be the first to say it: SUPER BOWL OR BUST 2009!!!!
by KaceOFbass on Jul 26, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On another note....players.
Some of these guys, probably all, have been discussed to death , but this is my questions list going into camp and in to the season. ( Nothing will really be proven until its proven on the field of play!)
Flozell Adams- Does he have anything left? He played most of last year with injuries that left him with one hand tied behind his back, if healthy can he be a dominate force? Watching how he plays against Ware will be a good insight as to expect.
Montrell Holland- Can he beat out Kosier? Kosier has been off the field a good long time, so Holland should have the edge. This is the only true offensive line position that has a shot at being up graded and Holland is the pre-camp number 1 contender. I don’t care if he comes in over weight or not, if he can over throw Kyle than we have up graded!
Kosier is a real pro and will not just give up his position, but unless he has put on another 10lbs and given the choice I would prefer a little less brains and a little more brawn to help kick start our running game.
Austin Miles- A lot of talk about his potential, but Mr Bill use to say “potential” just means you haven’t done anything yet. I for one hope he can do a lot!
Tony Romo- was 13-3 a fluke? Numbers are nice, just ask Dan Marino how proud he is of all of his, then ask him if he would trade all those records for 1 Super Bowl Victory!
Sorry Terry, had to bring it up. I want to see a better, smarter “Football Player” and not just a “Player”.
Roy Williams- Who is Roy Williams? I don’t know. We will Find out!
Doug Free- Does he Bump Big Red McQuistan of the game day roster? The only reason I mention him is because he so far is an unknown and my only hope for an immediate replacement at LT. If he doesn’t show up, then he was just another in a long line of wasted draft picks!
Igor- Is someone else’s cast off really a competent replacement for a guy that got a big contract from or competion? I don’t know? I hope so.
Gerald Sensabaugh- Is he the answer? He if you believe the multiple articles about him is a definate improvement. Can he even come close to the the hype?
Anthony Spencer- Forget the sacks. I want to see him be healthy the whole season. If he does that, then the rest will come. Besides, the people behind him are about as proven as those backing up Flozell.
David Buehler- Will he force us to carry 2 kickers and if so can he take the next step and make us consider trading Folk? Would that be a great dilemma or what?
Draft Picks- Can any accually make a contribution this year? Will our Special teams be better? Can’t be much worse.
UDFA- Any surprises here? Do any of these guys make the 53?
by bad knees on Jul 26, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be pretty upset if they got rid of Folk
Kicker or not he’s one of the most clutch players we have. Now if Folk got hurt this year and Beuhler steps in and proves he too has ice in his veins then I could rest easier about a trade like that, NEXT SEASON!
by sublimezg on Jul 26, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
I hate years when we’re looking for a kicker. Would rather keep 2; I’m sure they can find other stuff for Buehler to do.
Shoulda been Hawkins.
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 26, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+3
How many times a year is the kicker responsible for the game winner!
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by BlueZombie on Jul 26, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+4
2007 at Buffalo. ’nuf said
Prime Time: If we were playing a game of pickup basketball, what should I expect?
Tony Romo: Well...I'd spot you 10 points if we were playing to 11.
by aussie_cowboy on Jul 27, 2009 4:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That game alone said we have a kicker for the extent of his career
Trading him and keeping Buehler would be an epic mistake
Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?
by DalaiLuke on Jul 27, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will they execute in crunch time
Last year’s team seemed like one that could turn a win into a loss at the most inopportune moments. Can this year’s squad show a little more poise and discipline under pressure?
We know the NFCE will be a dogfight, and the team that comes through won’t necessarily be the most talented, but will be the team that holds tough in the critical moments.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jul 26, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys will win the NFC East
and will go deep into the playoffs provided of course they can stay away from the injury bug.
With all the individualistic prima dona players gone and free from their selfish disease that infected the locker room last year, this season will represent a fresh start of the real Tony Romo era in franchise history.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 26, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's because he's named "Junior"
but I had no idea he was 31. Holy shmokes.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 26, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya, I meant to mention that also!
Defensive linemen, especially in the middle tends to be a young man’s game!
by bad knees on Jul 26, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we are headed into a very entertaining season...
one of X’s and O’s and close games. This season’s Cowboys will be fighting to win games. They won’t be dominating as they were in ’07, but they will eliminate blowouts like the Rams, Giants (1), and Philly (2) games of ’08.
It’s refreshing again to be the underdogs.
Shoulda been Hawkins.
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 26, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is an interesting thought
I suppose I am expecting an excellent defense. Wade will have his guys executing and with his direct involvement and good DB play, the scheme will be more aggressive than ever. Think Giants’ defense of 2007. The question will be whether they’ll have the depth to carry the team if the offense and/or ST are weak links.
I expect the special teams to be young, but aggressive and swarming. Much improved, but given the rookie injection maybe a few breakdowns at times.
The offense is a question mark. I don’t buy into the hoopla about the “diva positions”. Romo is more than enough QB to win a SB, as are MBIII, WItten and Williams. The real question for every team aspiring to win the big game is offensive line. If they stay healthy and can be as productive as they were in 2007 and the early part of 2008, they’ll play well. If not, the team will have to lean on the defense and STs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 26, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine by me.
The 90’s Cowboys dynasty as well as the 2000 Patriot’s dynasty wasn’t loaded with blowouts.
They will come and go, but a win is a win is a win.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 26, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more with the msnbc article.
Especially the part about the offense improving now that Romo and Redball don’t have the Barnum&Bailey’s Drama Circus that is Eldorado hounding them to have EVERY FREAKIN PLAY directed towards him. Now they can spread the ball around and get ALL their weapons(felix,witten,barber,williams,tash,bennett,austin,hurd,and probably a TBD) involved in the gameplan. I can’t wait. And now that, finally,thankfully,training camp is here, I can say this to the doubters and the haters, JUST WATCH AND SEE.
But, I say, to the true cowboy fans that gather here on my favourite cowboys website, “Are you ready for some football?”
by cypher on Jul 26, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing that bothers me about all this post- T.O. stuff is
if Garrett and Romo allowed him to take them out of their game as much as you say, then maybe they don’t have what it takes. I mean if one guy’s mouth takes you out of your element that much, then how strong are you mentally?
I’m tired of the “Romo and Garrett will be fine now that T.O.’s gone” hypothesis. If he was that big of a problem, then somebody should have told him to shut up. Or just ignored him. I hope Romo takes the next step, but he should have never let anyone else influence the huddle so much in the first place. If that is what really happened. Same for Garrett.
"What you get when you put that #9 wit that #11? ...That's right 9-1-1!" - Roy Williams.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 26, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What could they do though?
Tell TO to piss off? He was the #1 receiver, you can’t exactly ignore him or make him mad. If he was that big of a problem, then there’s not much they can do if they want him to still perform. We of course don’t know, and it could be THEIR egos that were the problem, but TO was the star of this team before Romo so you can’t expect Tony to just assume the alpha male role when he’s handed the reins.
You may not think it was a big deal, but Ochocinco, Moss, TO, RW, etc have all had bad years when they’ve had attitude or chemistry problems.
by ChrisRichey on Jul 26, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Its the old talent versus attitude debate. Winning teams can find a good balance. Since its a team sport, I would rather have a little better attitude than a little better talent.
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by BlueZombie on Jul 26, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would go along with that T.O. is getting a bad rap crap if.......
it hadn’t happened twice before. Were those week minded QBs and Coaches?
Oh, and for the fact I never wanted him in the 1st place!
by bad knees on Jul 26, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't want to dwell on it.
But that is kind of how I feel. Not saying he was all of the problem but if you don’t think he was a problem then you need to stop floating the river of the Nile.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 26, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are missing the point.
I’m not saying anything about T.O. getting a bad rap, or defending him in any way.
I am just saying that if he was single-handedly wrecking the team, how come nobody did anything about it? is T.O. such a menacing figure that no one can say anything to him.
My point was not to defend T.O. My point is that if our quarterback and OC have to wait for him to leave town to do their jobs, then maybe we have the wrong QB and OC.
"What you get when you put that #9 wit that #11? ...That's right 9-1-1!" - Roy Williams.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 26, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reward was worth the risk
that is why the kept him.
When he was good he was great and he made Romo and Garrett’s jobs easier. But when you have to constantly appease a player to get him to perform up to his potential it wears on you.
by CounterEMF on Jul 26, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl, you've obviously never had to deal with a primadona professionally before, and should consider yourself fortunate.
Because it’s never easy to deal with someone like 81. But I am Not saying it was all his fault that the team faltered last season. Heck no, there is PLENTY of blame to go around for that, including Romo,Wade,Jerry,Garret, the special teams play,injuries and on and on. No, it’s not all to’s fault, but I will stick by my original belief that the team is better off without him.
However, I regret bringing him up and will refrain from doing that in the future, from this point onward. I just hope,starting in a coupla days from now,our current team will give us something else to talk about.
by cypher on Jul 26, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this.
Working side by side with someone who is a distraction is distraction. Having someone on other team throw of your game is one thing(shouldn’t happen), having someone on your team throw you off is another.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Jul 27, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
why don’t u ask the Niners and the Eagles?
by sublimezg on Jul 26, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
the players and coaches were doing their best to put up with whats-his-name for the good of the team, but found out that just wouldn’t work. To their credit, they helped persuade Jerry that the prima dona had to go.
You can’t really blame Jason and/or Tony for whats-his-name’s coming or going.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jul 26, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some credit
for his leaving, maybe, but not blame.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jul 26, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No member (player, coach, or front office type) of the cowboy's organization
has said that TO single handedly wrecked the team. That is all the stuff of “chatter boxes” and bloggers.
It seems very clear however that many in the organization did not want him around, regardless of his stellar productivity over the last three years. So thats that. In the end, JJ went with what everyone was telling him, cut the guy. He is only going to lose more steps as time goes by (though i think he can still play).
If Romo is fine, it will be b/c he is a good QB and keeps his head about him. If JG is fine, it will be b/c he is a good coach who can maximize what he has to work with. Those things will either come to fruition or not, and it will have absolutely nothing to do with TO.
by THEjarhead on Jul 26, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I definitely can't argue with a sensible comment like that.
If Romo gets better it’ll be because Romo got better. Period.
"What you get when you put that #9 wit that #11? ...That's right 9-1-1!" - Roy Williams.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 26, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that too.
I’ve never thought that is going to solve all the problems. I’m personally just glad I’ll never have to see a toss play to a receiver forced in there.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jul 26, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the end, JJ went with what everyone was telling him, cut the guy. He is only going to lose more steps as time goes by
Everyone said that ?
by CounterEMF on Jul 26, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was the word coming out of the ranch, according to the local dallas sportstalk radio types.
Lots of people in the organization, when asked for their opinion by JJ, recommended parting ways with TO, and JJ listened.
It sounds plausible to me though that may not be the way it actually went down. I would also add that no one mentioned what happened LAST off-season.
TO signed a new deal. He signed it late in the offseason, like June of 08 as I recall. JJ and son were looking to deal for boldin or RW (or so I heard). They couldn’t get the deal done, so THEN they locked up TO.
My guess, they were thinking about ditching him LAST year, but they didnt have another WR around to help offset the loss. when they got RW, TO’s days were numbered. JJ had to be talked into 9 million or so of dead money this year.
Could be wrong, but thats about the way I would guess it went down.
Meantime, I maintain my original point, Romo and JG will do what they do and it wont have anything to do with TO.
by THEjarhead on Jul 26, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
He is a menacing figure no doubt, and that’s being kind.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 27, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl is absolutely right
I thought cutting TO was the right thing to do because his personality caused endless distractions for the whole team. Having said that, I’m amazed how many people are now saying Romo and Garrett will be substantially better because he is gone. That’s a very loud statement that they are both pretty weak as far as I’m concerned.
I really hope I am proven completely wrong. The good news is, all the excuses have been removed. At the end of the year we can look back and decide for ourselves about whether Romo elevated his game to the elite level and if Garrett was better. I hope both happen.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right but
It’s being said by pundits. Romo and Witten hae both said they’ll miss his talent.
And the same with “excuses are gone”. I have not heard anyone on the team or coaching staff make excuses for last season. In fact the opposite – I’ve heard non-stop, personal mea culpas. In my mind, that’s what’s good about this off-season… guys are pointing the finger at themselves about last season’s disappointing performance. Again, the “excuse” that Owens caused all of the performance issues is a product of the media.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo just didn't look the same after he broke his finger on this throwing hand.
That’s the worst injury any fan of any team what hate to happen to their starting QB. If anything affected Romo’s confidence, it was that the injury—not T.O.’s wanting the ball—that was in the back of his mind.
And the organization pretty much limited Garrett to BJ being his only option. This passing attack was too dynamic for Johnson to keep up with. That had to be frustrating for any playcaller.
The season begins in 3...2...
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
and the last four games with a geeked up back.
Interesting, like some form of mass amnesia, that’s been forgotten and we’re back to “Tony can’t function in December”.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least with some good backups this season...
he won’t have to rush back and risk further injury. He can just chill and heal until be can bring his A game.
The season begins in 3...2...
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you will be proven completely wrong
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 27, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean
but they – they entire organization – was trying to “manage” their relationship with him so it didn’t go all Philly on them. I think the “taking them out of their game” is over-stated in the media. What I think they were after is being able to hold everyone accountable and Owens was not a person who could take any level of criticism. Add that cost to the fact that he had lost a fraction of the acceleration that in the past had made him indispensible and they let him go for the better of the team.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 26, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you are saying, but if Tony and Garrett stood up to TO like you seem to insinuate they should have, Dallas would have had a whole different can of worms opened last year. I seem to remember TO not much caring for McNabb standing up to him, and I personally would take the consequences of last year’s drama to those that the Eagles had to endure with the infamous locker room fight. Plus, standing up to him would have further divided the team and made him even harder to get rid of without having an uprising. And while I don’t know for sure (do any of us really know?), I would bet that Tony thought by trying to appease TO or cater to him he was holding the team together and trying to not let the wheels fall off. And while no one likes how last year ended, I think Tony standing up to TO would have lead to much more dire long-term consequences.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 26, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're telling me McNabb wasn't strong enough mentally??
That’s all garbage Carl, T.O. is simply a destructive force that no coach or QB can control, you should know better, even as a known T.O. homer.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 27, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McNabb is a great quarterback, but very mentally weak and insecure.
Just like when he threw a little temper tantrum when Garcia was playing well in his absence. McNabb has a little Kobe in him.
"What you get when you put that #9 wit that #11? ...That's right 9-1-1!" - Roy Williams.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 27, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ewwww
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kobe beef?
The season begins in 3...2...
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 27, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The O-line does worry me a bit though. Make that a lot, actually.
We’ll just have to hope the injury bug doesn’t bite our “will-imposers” this year. We need them to dominate the line of scrimmage. Our season will hinge on that.
Peace out. I’m gonna go play the demo for the new madden. Love being able to remain as Buehler on kickoffs and run down and make bone-jarring tackles with him. Already getting a “kick” outta our new ko specialist.
by cypher on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!! finally
Its been a long offseason that even tho seemed quieter has still had its fair share of splashes.
Excited by all the things I hear about a new focus the players have, an athletic secondary, Felix being back, seeing what Roy can do for us, DWARE, just so excited. Been way to long but finally its back. Can’t wait for the camp updates Grizz
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 26, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly,Chris,I work with a guy that's a raging,manipulative,control freak.
What am I gonna do,stand up to him? Hah,he THRIVES on going to war with people and I’ve seen him make people’s lives hell that “stood up to him”. My point is Tony is NO Staubach or Aikman, he’s not nearly as serious-minded as them and he wants too much to be liked to be seen as an a-hole. For better or worse, that’s who he is. I will be very surprised is we don’t see a new,more mature Tony emerge this year. And the drama circus line was not meant to stir up a hornet’s nest of t.o. fans looking to attack. I meant no offense. Peace;}
by cypher on Jul 26, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it all comes down to wade
The only question this season is does Wade actually get tougher. If he can’t make the players play with more discipline, this season is over before it starts. I figure out of 80 players at training camp, at least 10 percent are lazy and not worth #@$%. If we don’t here about those players complaining about the camp being too tough, this is probably a 9-7, 8-8 team. Just remember, Wade’s teams have always gotten worse the second year. They haven’t gotten worse in the third year because he always got fired after the second year. He just doesn’t seem to learn.
by just4fun on Jul 26, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It takes a spark
as mentioned in the Brooking story. Hope some player(s) on this year’s squad can ignite the season, starting in Training Camp.
Saddle up, boys, time to ride.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jul 26, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with the third point of the MSNBC article.
Obviously Olshansky is no Canty, but the dropoff won’t be huge and he’s a solid player. Sensabough, by all accounts, is a major upgrade over Roy. As for Brooking, he can’t be any worse than Zach, so I just don’t see how the new guys could contribute to a LESSENING of defensive effectiveness. It’s at worst a push.
by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think we are gonna see Brooking exceed our expectations.
Atlanta’s pretty much declared a day of celebration for him,Garth Brooks and all. That tells me they think he’s not only a great fb player, but a decent guy as well. Him and d-ware can prove nice guys CAN dominate. These are big pluses for us.
I also like that he knows wade’s defensive scheme intimately,should be able to adapt immediately.
Sensabaugh could be a BIG upgrade for us, jag fans really didnt’ want to see him go, i’ve noticed.
You’re right about Olshansky, he should be able to replace Canty well enough.
by cypher on Jul 26, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
“The safety combination of Gerald Sensabaugh (signed from Jacksonville) and Ken Hamlin could give up a lot of big plays.”
Again totally ignoring what Sensabaugh is replacing in last year’s starting strong safety Roy Williams who was renowned for being horrible in coverage and giving up big plays, and the rotating door of replacements Pat Watkins, Courtney Brown, Tre Battle and Keith Davis, all of whom Sensabaugh should be superior to in coverage. By all accounts Sensabaugh is a good coverage safety and isn’t known for giving up big plays, and all he has to be is decent to be a big upgrade from last year. So where are they getting this? Our of their arses I think.
by scottmaui on Jul 26, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't obvious that Olshansky in no Canty
Based on what I’ve read that’s basically a push. It sounds like Olshansky is more than solid and certainly more consistent than Canty. He might not match the “highs” Canty had but won’t be missing in action for games at a time either.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my read as well
Canty is high-talent but inconsistent.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 27, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fans will be surprised how good Olshansky really is
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 27, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi guys
Just saying hello… I will be back again this season to answer injury questions if needed
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Jul 26, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome back!
And may you only have questions about the Eagles, Giants and Redskins to answer.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Jul 26, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys...
Looking forward to an interesting season!!
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Jul 26, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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