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Going Back To The Future With the Dallas Cowboys

Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips instructs one of his quality control coaches at a recent practice. 
"Great Scott son! Get me some gull-danged plutonium, dad-gummit! It's right over there!"

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Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips instructs one of his quality control coaches at a recent practice. "Great Scott son! Get me some gull-danged plutonium, dad-gummit! It's right over there!"

As many of you may know, DC.com is running a series on the 50 greatest Cowboys of all time. The countdown currently stands at #15, where DC.com has named wide receiver Drew Pearson as the 15th greatest Cowboy of all time. Reading about all of the Cowboys of old brings back some fond memories, and also invokes a little imagination. As I continue to read through the series, I continue to mull over one question. If I had an ‘85 Delorian, a flux capacitor, and a little plutonium, what former Cowboy would I travel back in time to kidnap and add to the current unit?

Offensively it is easy to go with one of the all-time greats. Sure, any of us would probably love to have Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman to come in and guide the ship. Both are Hall of Fame quarterbacks with Super Bowl rings. But with Tony Romo on board, I personally would not spend my one and only pick on a quarterback, however important the position may be. It is natural to blurt out a name like Drew Pearson, Michael Irvin, Tony Dorsett, or Emmitt Smith. For this particular post, I wanted to dig a little deeper and tag players who would fit need areas for the current Cowboys.

My list is not by any means all-inclusive. There have been too many great Cowboys over the years to include them all, so forgive me if I left out your guy.

Star-divide

Wouldn’t Bob Hayes be the perfect speed complement to Roy Williams? No offense to Miles Austin, but I’d jump at the chance to have the former Olympic 100 meter champion who almost single-handedly changed defensive schematics forever. I know that people don’t initially associate the name Raghib Ismail with the Dallas Cowboys, but the guy put up some respectable numbers when he was here. Ismail would be an awesome fit with today’s Cowboys because he has a skill set that no other current Cowboy receiver has. Ismail is the smaller, shiftier, deep threat type who was great after the catch, and would also be a great help on returns.

If I could fit a '96 Larry Allen into my ‘85 Delorian, he just might be the guy to grab. The still-ailing Kyle Kosier and the questionably-motivated Montrae Holland are currently scrapping for the starting left guard position. A young Larry Allen would be a huge (no pun intended) addition to the Cowboys line. Could you imagine the sheer girth the Cowboys would have on the interior with Allen, Andre Gurode and Leonard Davis all inside? Frightening.

It would be nice to have the Moose back. I love the Cricket (Deon Anderson) but Daryl Johnston is one of the greatest blocking fullbacks of all-time… Does anyone else think as highly of Kelvin Martin as I do? I always thought Martin was fantastic slot receiver, and was likely skilled enough to wrestle the job away from Patrick Crayton… I don’t see running back as a need area for the current Cowboys. I love Marion Barber, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice, but I would probably take the Minnesota Vikings route and trade all three of them for Herschel Walker. I know Emmitt Smith and Tony Dorsett are among the all-time greats, but Herschel Walker was a once in a lifetime talent. I would love to see how great Walker could be surrounded by  the current Cowboys’ cache of offensive weaponry.

Defensively, guys like Deion Sanders, Randy White, Bob Lilly and Chuck Howley are no-brainers. But again, let’s dig just a bit deeper.

Chuck Howley was probably the greatest Cowboy linebacker of all time, but he would have probably played the same position as Bradie James. I am in no way insinuating that Bradie James is better than Chuck Howley. I’m just saying that James is solid, and I would rather let him stay put, and pair him with Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson. Henderson was the rangy, athletic linebacker that is the perfect fit for the weak inside spot in a Wade Phillips defense. Henderson’s athleticism would be the perfect complement to James’ nastiness.

Want to improve the already scary Cowboys pass rush? How about a pair of #94’s screaming off the edges playing ‘meet you at the quarterback?’ A young Charles Haley was easily athletic enough to stand up in a 3-4, and if memory serves me correctly, i think he did a bit of that in his San Francisco days. Ware and Haley together would be unblockable.

Another former Cowboy who could possibly benefit from a position change with today’s squad would be Leon Lett. A tackle in his Cowboy days, Lett’s size, strength, long arms, and inside rush skills would make him the perfect penetrating 5-technique end for Wade Phillips’ scheme… I like Ken Hamlin and Gerald Sensabaugh, but there are no less than four former Cowboys safeties who could probably force either of them to the bench. Darren Woodson, Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters, Mel Renfro. Take your pick…With Keith Davis gone, how about bringing back Kenny Gant or Billy Davis to bolster the special teams units?

Again, this post was purely intended for fun. I could go on and on for days about the Cowboys of old. The guys I mentioned are just a few of my own personal favorites. So, if you could go back in time to grab any player who has ever sported the star on his helmet (at his best), and add him to today's roster who would it be?

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Given the problems of recent years, I’d have to go with Darren Woodson. Sensabaugh looks to be a good fit, but he aint no Woodson. With the young players patrolling back there his leadership, smarts, getting them all in the right place, as well as his tackling ability would be a welcome addition. With Hamlin, Sensabaugh and Woodson rotating in and out, mixing and matching at Safety the CB’s would feel a lot more comfortable. Honorable mention for all of the same reasons would be Cornell Greene.

by John Boy on Jul 7, 2009 6:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%

If Woody were still playing, this defense would become elite really fast.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cliff

was at his best with Charlie Waters as his wing man.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Jul 7, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Larry Allen

Do they make Escalades with a flux capacitors?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 7, 2009 6:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

That is what this roster needs.

by Musiccitynorm on Jul 7, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Vote

Woody

Darren Woodson would complete the package of the defence. His leadership mixed with the young guns we already have would be (OMG) unbelievable.

Say what you will about the offense but with a defense this good we would ONLY need to score about 10pts per game and win like 12-14 games per year.

by Nink on Jul 7, 2009 7:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If I could take anyone...

It would be without a doubt Sanders. But Haley would fit the need at the DE position.

by aussie_cowboy on Jul 7, 2009 7:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except

that Haley would have to convert to OLB in this scheme.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 7, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...

He would be good there too

Cadel Evans:
2007=2nd 2008=2nd... 2009=1st?

by aussie_cowboy on Jul 7, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

unless he tripped on his ummm… poncho string…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 7, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Haley would be an awesome OLB.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 7, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

nice dp

Cadel Evans:
2007=2nd 2008=2nd... 2009=1st?

by aussie_cowboy on Jul 7, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woodson or Cliff Harris, either would be the QB of the Defense

and both deserve to be Hall of Famers

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Jul 7, 2009 7:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting idea here,

what about a younger Flozell Adams? He was a beast a couple years back before the injuries started to take their toll.

But I also love the idea of Deion, Woodson, and Haley. I know we have Colombo at RT and I wouldn’t really go here because of the same reasoning you mentioned about other palyers, but what about Erik Williams? He was nasty!

by sduncan24 on Jul 7, 2009 7:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're going to pick an OT

you gotta go with Rayfield Wright who was the best OT in the history of the franchise.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mobile posting!

Thanks for enabling mobile posting! Oh, and id have to go with larry allen

by CowboysFan4Life on Jul 7, 2009 8:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Although Woody would be a great addition

I’m going with Drew Pearson who would make our receiving corps the very best in the league, plus he’s definitely not going to drop any balls in a playoff game.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 8:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Was Eric Williams a RT or LT?

Either way, I’d put him at LT(pre-accident). Not only was he a brute, but he had a nasty streak I think would have given the OLine some needed edge.

Truth be told, D Woodson is a no-brainer, but I think EW is a closer 2nd than people realize. I also really like the Bullet Bob Hayes choice, and we’d get a punt returner, too.

'Kade Out!'

by tdships on Jul 7, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just wondering

what the difference between right and left tackle was. Why wouldnt a right tackle need good/ quick feet?

by aussie_cowboy on Jul 7, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he doesn’t need as quick of feet on most teams because he is on the right. Since most QBs are right handed the left tackle protects his blindside and most defenses send their speed rusher at the QBs blindside.

by sduncan24 on Jul 7, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

difference

sduncan is correct, traditionally LTs have to have ballarina’s feet to handle speed edge rushers on the qb’s blindside while RTs are more maulers who quite aren’t as athletic.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fundamentally yes, this holds true...

but some schemes – even on a game/DandD basis, edge rushers may sometimes be dictated by the strength of the offensive formation.
I’d be advantageous if both were nible footed. And edge rush is an edge rush no matter where it comes from.
I don’t think the coaches are entirely sold on Colombo, they like his play thus far, but I think they are always open to an upgrade.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If a healthy Erik Williams was available

Any coach on any team would start him at RT. He was better than anybody in the league. Columbo is fine, but not in his league.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 7, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man that o-line was awesome.

I think my favorite of all is Stepnoski from that group.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the coaches weren't sold on Colombo

Jerry would have never signed him to a long term contract this past off season.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Columbo is doing a good job and he’s getting better. No doubt an Eric Williams would be a good upgrade, but guys like that don’t come around very often.

by T Zig on Jul 7, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Contracts aren't indicative of much...they can always cut him. It's not guaranteed.

All it does is set a fixed price.
Jerry signed a few people who aren’t necessarily – or whole-heartedly – endorsed by the coaching staff over the years. I don’t think we need to list them out.
I like Colombo, I have some gripes about his technique and footwork but I think he generally does a good job.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you truly believe Jerry signs players

without listening or getting the input from his coaches, then I have some swamp land I want to sell you in Florida.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never said that.

You think Jerry listened to Parcells when he signed TO?
You think Jerry had the advice from coaches to resign TO to an extension then cut him?
If I were the coaches, I would consider Columbo to be a competent starter. If Jake Long wanted to be traded to Dallas, I don’t think they would hesitate if the money was right.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jake Long was traded to Dallas

it would be to play LT, not RT.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Flo is still there...he'd be playing RT...

To belabor my example, he would go to RT if Flo is still there.
Jake can play RT. Teams pegged him to be a LT pick in the draft since that fits the money he would be getting. But he’d be pro bowl material at RT too.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's simply not true

If Dallas trades for Jake Long, that means Flo would be cut or retired because there is no way Jerry or any other team for that matter is going to pay two OTs that kind of money.

Long would play LT and Colombo RT…end of story.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like I said earlier...if the money was right.

I can find other RTs that are more talented than Columbo. How about starting at the pro-bowl roster?

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the money would never be right

you’re simply delusional if you really think Jake Long would sign for less than what Flo makes right now.

Long is a young and upcoming player at his position, he’d demand a lot more than what Flo is making right now.

Go ahead and name me just 3 RTs that you think are better than Colombo, I’d like to know who these players are.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Kaczur, NE
Artis Hicks, Minn
Kareem McKenzie, Giants

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie's average

And benefits from being part of a superior overall line. Colombo was the better player last year, based on what I saw.

Not sure what this larger debate is about, but I thought I’d chip in on that point.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jul 7, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

subjective

If you disagree, I’d like to know how you quantify that with what reasonable measures.

If not I think you just have a man crush on Columbo. Which is fine, I like him too – as a player.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erik Williams' feet were plenty quick enough to neutralize Reggie White every time they played

After Williams’ car crash and the extensive knee damage he suffered, he was never the same player. That may be the version of him that you’re thinking of.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jul 7, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not true

It was just the opposite, Tuinei played LT and Williams played RT.

Tuinei’s story was incredible as he was an undrafted FA who came into the league as a DT out of Hawaii and was later moved to OT by Landry.

He did a tremendous job on Bruce Smith in SB 27 and 28 and was probably the most underrated OL of the five.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 7, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If nothing else it would be interesting to see a career without the accident. I know Williams never fully recovered, but I wondered how limited he was. It woud have been interesting to se what he could have done without them. Better than Larry Allen?

by Gibster121 on Jul 7, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Can't Believe No One Mentioned

Michael Irvin. This team needs a fiery leader and motivator. Both in the locker room and on the sideline. Not to mention what a great receiver he was.

The older I get, the better I was.

by Far Rider on Jul 7, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point!

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 7, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Leon Lett choice

or any other defensive tackles of the past…heck, I’d even have Chad Hennings or Russell Maryland on this year’s squad. Just to provide a little more “oomph” in the middle.

by DavidH22 on Jul 7, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute

Was the question who was the dumbest player you would bring back?? Lol!

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 7, 2009 11:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Carl, did you mean

Bill Bates there at the end or Bill Davis, I would sure like to have a Bill Bates on this team, he would get the entire team energized and ready to go with his punishing tackles on ST.

by DCowboy on Jul 7, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I did mean Billy Davis

But I should have mentioned Bates too.

"What you get when you put that #9 wit that #11? ...That's right 9-1-1!" - Roy Williams.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 7, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my list to bring back

Darren Woodson
Larry Allen
With the style of offense nowadays – we need a back that can play with traffic and improvise to make things happen. Emmitt and Herschel are not it for me. We need a back that can make things happen on their own. Lead blocks and linemen holding holes are now a myth. I’d go with Tony Dorsett

If I take Irvin, Aikman has to come with him.

I’d take Randal Godfrey and put him at Will.

by rotovibe on Jul 7, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you brought back Aikman

you’d need to bring his whole line. He wasn’t nimble enough to deal with all the blocking mistakes these guys make.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its simple

Look at the weakest position on the team – Safety. Look at one of the best ever to play there – Woodson. He’d represent the biggest upgrade possible. Though I do love the idea of pre-accident Williams and Irvin.

by Last of the Romohicans on Jul 7, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a great article

I disagree on the weakest position. I’d have to say it is either WR or O-Line. I like our safeties. So while I think Woodson would probably be the best addition to our defense, I would be inclined to think Larry Allen or Michael Irvin. I’m from the Drew Pearson era, but I agree with Far Rider – Irvin’s magical leadership would be a tremendous addition, not to mention his talent!!!

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by DalaiLuke on Jul 7, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could we bring back a coach?

My first choice would be Landry. I’d love to see what he could do with this talent.

If I can’t have Landry, there is no doubt in my mind that it would be Randy White. There was not a meaner S.O.B ever in the NFL. Harvey Martin is the all-time sack leader, not because he was such a great rusher (which he was), but because White demanded constant double and triple teams. He was that disruptive to the middle of the line. Ware and Ratliff, with White between them, would be ridiculous.

by FanSince72 on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm an old timer and love that era

But Landry had superior talent many many years. Many of his teams were 3 deep at key positions because nobody could leave in free agency and they were better than most teams at finding talent.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 7, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the Bullet suggestion

I’m bullish on Miles Austin this year, but Bob Hayes would eliminate any doubt about the deep threat opposite Roy Williams.

If you’re being practical, though, I’d agree that Larry Allen’s probably the best choice. Pre-Sensabaugh, I’d have said Woody, but currently our G situation concerns me more than our S situation, even with our recent disastrous history in the secondary.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jul 7, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I used to think nobody could write as well as Raf

No offense to Raf, he’s great but Carl just keeps writing things that are delicious. This story has something for all of us and every Cowboy era. You are an awesome addition Carl, I hope you stick around after your tour of duty is done.

Sorry, I can’t pick just one.

Darren Woodsen or Cliff Harris
Randy White
Larry Allen

All on my all-time favorite list and all in positions of need

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 7, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice article.

Defensively, I was thinking right along with FanSince72 regarding Randy White. Having the Manster with Ratliff and Ware would be sick. Our secondary would be just fine as is with the Manster crushing the pocket. The QB wouldn’t have any time to throw. But as far as need on that side of the ball, I would

Offensively, I absolutely loved Eric Williams pre-injury. He was just plain nasty and made the entire line play with an attitude, but Columbo is doing a good job. Two posistions on the line that need help are LG and LT as we speak today. Mark Tunei would be my choice for LT and Larry Allen for LG. But you couldn’t have Tunei standing next to a potential Proctor. So my pick would be Larry Allen in his prime.

by T Zig on Jul 7, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oops. Based on defensive need at this time.

I would pick Woody for his leadership and playing ability. He would make our secondary very, very good.

by T Zig on Jul 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Larry Allen

I love Woody, but I am heartened by our youngsters in the secondary. OL is what has me troubled going forward, and you don’t get better than LA.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Jul 7, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Woodson No Doubt

He was a true general and he’s exactly what the young secondary and entire defense needs. He was able to get the bad Roy Williams to be a good player for a couple of years. If you can motivate that slob, imagine how well he would lead this young, hungry defense.

by VA Dallas Fan on Jul 7, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Williams played RT. Period. End of discussion. Period.

I just like typing out my punctuation. :)

As for the topic on the table – great question. My first thought was Woody. After all, safety play has been our Krpytonite ever since he left. But I think we might have solved it this year with Sensei.

So I’m going with the Playmaker. Not only do we have a need at WR, but we have a need for an emotional/spiritual leader who busts his @$$ in every game/practice/mini-camp/OTA, and who won’t tolerate it if everyone else doesn’t follow his example. Who cares more about winning than anything else.

by DannyWhite on Jul 7, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What an absolutely awesome question...

Unfortunately, I just can’t pick one guy because there are so many ways I could go. Here are my top five in no particular order:
 
Darren Woodson – You want to fix the secondary? He is your guy for that with his leadership and versatility.

Bob Hayes – I definitely agree with Carl’s premise that he would be the perfect complement for Roy Williams. He would have to adjust for some changes in the game but his athleticism is timeless.

Larry Allen – He is one of the best offensive lineman ever to play and if Flozell could get back to form would give us an absolutely huge and awesomely effective O-line to run the ball down people’s throats.

Michael Irvin – To be honest, this was my first thought. He brings everything you need with leadership and another dominating WR. The negative would be that Irvin in his heyday would be a guy who would probably not do well with the increased media scrutiny in today’s game.

“Hollywood” Henderson – This last one was a tough choice for me. I ran through guys like Randy White, Leon Lett, Roy Williams (circa his rookie year), and even Daryl Johnston (I love good blocking fullbacks), but in the end I had to go with Henderson because I absolutely agree with Carl’s premise that he would be a great guy to take over the spot next to James. He was big, fast and could shed blocks well enough to handle that role very well. Plus, I think his atleticism would have him solidify our nickel-backer role and further improve this defense’s versatility.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 7, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

After giving it more thought, I wouldn’t mind bringing back Jimmy Johnson or Tom Landry either. Both probably wouldn’t like our current defensive alignment, but their experience and approach would make it worth it. Can you imagine a staff with Johnson/Landry, Phillips (as DC) and Garrett (assuming he recaptures 2007)?

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jul 7, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As Terry said, Rayfield Wright

The guy, just like Erik Williams, played on the right side, but he played in a very different era, an era were the left ends were the best pass rushers…

He would play LT in this era and he would be a beast.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Jul 7, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right

Although Erik Williams played RT, he was getting matched up against Reggie White whenever we played the Eagles (White moved around a bit, of course), and he used to stone him all the time, pre-car accident. It was great to watch.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Jul 7, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I refrained from talking about Rayfield Wright in this era

He would have a tough time given his size. What was he, 250 – 260? That’s not OT in this era

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 7, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

any discussion comparing generations should start and end with how they did against their contemporary competition

and when you size up Rayfield Wright with that criteria, he was a totally dominant player… I would say between him and Allen you couldn’t go wrong. But Wright was probably the Cowboy’s most dominant lineman of all time.

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by DalaiLuke on Jul 7, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was responding to the comment "He would play LT in this era....."

That was my entire point about not talking about him in the context of the current era.

by StillHateTheGiants on Jul 7, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will take the Rocket, the Bullet, or Terry Glenn in their primes.

Dallas frustrates me with all these big WRs. I want at least one little, speedy guy who plays off the skill sets of the current guys. We already have 2 big TEs that are good pass-catchers. Why bank on Felix and Miles as being our only speed guys? Felix is a RB and Miles is a long strider. Speed in the slot. I will even settle for Kelvin Martin or Kevin Williams.

In the secondary, give me either George Teague or Brock Marion. Marion might be better for this team because he also allows another option at kick returner.
I will never forget this play and how disappointed I was when the Packers, not the Cowboys drafted Teague.

All eyes on Free.

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 7, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Put Clint Longley on there

And you can find out Romo’s character as compared to Staubach’s. I’d say he’d measure up.

by SB2008 on Jul 7, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You'd have to lift

a lot of rocks to find Clint Longley.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Jul 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll second StillHateTheGiants

Absolutely great article Carl. Your angles on your posts always leave me thinking “How the hell did he come up with that, I never thought of it..” In this one you mentioned Chuck Howley so you get double bonus points!

by Benthere on Jul 7, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Delorean is a two-seater

but it’s such a short drive back to the future I would pick two guys that I could cram in there. Hey, we have a time machine. Let’s be greedy. Micheal J. Fox, and Elizabeth Shue fit.

I’d head straight to 1992, abduct Darren Woodson and Micheal Irvin. You have your leader for Defense, and for Offense. You have two young playmakers to give you many years of fire and brimstone.

Geesh, everyone knows you can fit two skinny guys in the passenger seat of a Delorean. What is the ride? Like 4 seconds? Once I landed back in 2009, I’d want to be my two passenger’s agent, and then sit back and enjoy my team from my field-level luxury box. Why just help the team? I have a time machine.

Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.

Joe ThEEsman

by SB Six on Jul 8, 2009 6:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you know tomorrow's stock prices, you're a millionaire... end of story :P

For argument’s sake, I’d go for 1972, Bob Hayes, Duane Thomas, Rayfield Wright, Charlie Waters and Bob Lilly

Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?

by DalaiLuke on Jul 8, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're gonna need Biff's 47 Ford for that.

Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.

Joe ThEEsman

by SB Six on Jul 8, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking more like an old VW bus - we could pile out after the trip in a puff of smoke

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by DalaiLuke on Jul 9, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough choice

Very entertaining post! I can’t choose among the following three:

Larry Allen: the best guard to ever play the game. As mentioned above, Davis-Gurode-Allen plus our running backs would make for a virtually unstoppable running game. Plus, Allen would make the weakest position on our line the strongest. Huge upgrade.

Deion Sanders. Easily the best corner ever. Combo of Newman and Sanders as starters with Scandrick and Jenkins for nickel and dime would allow Wade to send the house on virtually every passing down. Sanders was the one player that made every offensive coordinator change his game – they simply didn’t throw his way. Add in two more big plusses: he was an outstanding punt return man and he would also add zip to our passing offense. What an amazing athlete.

Michael Irvin. I do believe one of the biggest problems is that this current team lacks leadership and heart. Michael Irvin would change that the first day he stepped onto the practice field. Plus, he would immediately move into the # wr slot, allowing Roy Williams to play the role of Alvin Harper, to which he is much better suited.

If I had to choose I think I would take Deion.

by Cowboy Louie on Jul 8, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hands down Randy White and Deion Sanders

Why? Because those were two guys opponents were truly scared of.

Sanders was the one player that made every offensive coordinator change his game – they simply didn’t throw his way

The Manster was just the meanest Dude on the field ever. Period. End of discussion.

And Deion wouldn’t even have to get in the Delorean, he’d just run alongside until the car jumps, probably not even breaking a sweat.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 8, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you are looking for leadership and heart...

Then Deion would definitly not be your pick.

He might be the best athlete to ever play the game, but apparently he just did his own thing and it rubbed off on the younger players.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jul 8, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

I have no idea how you read my post and came away with the idea that I thought Deion would bring leadership and heart. To the best of my knowledge and recollection, those were never areas that he excelled in or showed any interest in.

For Deion, ‘doing his own thing’ sure was damn effective. I’ll take Deion out on the perimeter ‘doing his own thing’ against the other team’s best wide receiver every Sunday. No, he never was much of a leader, but what he brought to the table in other areas was simply amazing. As for how it rubbed off on the younger players, I don’t know. I wouldn’t say he had a bad work ethic. I don’t recall him being a problem showing up for practice or letting himself get out of shape in the offseason. My supposition is that he was such a naturally gifted athlete that he didn’t have to be a workout worrior or put in extra hours in the film room. The game just came so easy for him.

by Cowboy Louie on Jul 8, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.. I know you didn't...

But where you talked about Michael Irvin you said, “one of the biggest problems is that this current team lacks leadership and heart”.

If that is what they need the most, then you probably wouldn’t want Deion is what I’m saying.

And yes he did have a bad work ethic. He would tell coaches that cover whatever was for somebody else and that he would just stick to his man and cover him. He would be great for the secondary, but he was a sorry example in the locker room.

it was weird, I... I mean you probably didn't hear about it because I went under the name of Mike Honcho. But I just wanted you to know that. If you can hear me, if it got into your brain somehow. That I spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho.

by AirforceBat on Jul 8, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you'll see plenty of leadership and heart

now that #81 is no longer on the team who cast too large of a shadow over this team. Now that he is gone, you’ll see plenty of players come to the forefront in the leadership department.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 8, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're right

I hope you are right, but I don’t hold your optimism. I have my doubts that Owens suppressed potential leaders, and if he did then doesn’t that in itself indicate that they are weak leaders to begin with? The Cowboys don’t need plenty of players coming to the forefront to be leaders. Only 2-3 guys need to step up in the Leadership department – one on offense, one on defense and someone from the coaching ranks.

At any rate, all the players labeled as problems have been jettisoned this off-season, along with some coaches. There are no more excuses. This is a talented squad that should be in the playoffs and contend for the Super Bowl. If they flounder in 2009, wholesale changes need to be made.

by Cowboy Louie on Jul 8, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Owens suppressed leaders either

but I do think that his popularity and lack of personal accountability made it difficult for anyone else to impose their will on the team. And specfically I mean the OC. How do you get players to buy into the system when a hugely popular guy doesn’t? Romo is the most interesting person to talk about, but Garrett is the one who has to actually impose his will on the offense.

To the second point… the tremedously popular phrase “No excuses this year”. Who exactly has made excuses? I can’t recall anyone from owner down to equipment manager who has made excuses about last season.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 8, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta go with Terry on this one...

Dunk, you say you don’t think TO suppressed leaders, but then you proceed to detail exactly how he did it!

To add an example, the Phily leadership is pretty strong, and that locker room was smooth sailing before and after TO… but boy did he cause havoc there that lasted into the next season.

I think TO cleaned up his act considerably in Dallas, but you can’t change a leopard’s spots, and ultimately I think he did in fact undermine the efforts of other players as well as coaches to fulfill their leadership potential.

Time will tell, but I think Terry’s theory will prove itself though this year.

Tar Heels = National Champs in Basketball ... #1 in Baseball ... Top 10 this year in Football?

by DalaiLuke on Jul 8, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's probably just semantics

Suppressed is an active thing to me. I don’t think TO set out to undermine anyone. It’s just the combination of his own issues (hyper sensitivity, for example) and his charisma.

All that said, I think the team will be more cohesive, in part because they have removed an issue of sorts, and in part because moves like this tend to get everyone’s attention – no one is safe from being kicked out the door.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 8, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think T.O. does it intentionally as well

it’s just his personality, immaturity and huge ego.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 9, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no because T.O. did that everywhere he went

Guys like Romo, Witten and Ware were intelligent enough to know if they if butted heads with T.O., it would cause dissension in the locker room and team would really fall apart.

It had nothing to do with weakness but had everything to do with making the best out of a bad situation.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 8, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too soon to tell.

I like the Hayes, Woodson, and Allen options so far given what we know right now, but it’s hard to pick one until we see how things shake out. Hopefully deep into the season we won’t feel the pressing need to bring ANY legend from the past back. We’ll see.

by krl97a on Jul 9, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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