Cowboys Camp: A New and Improved Wade Phillips?
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Aug 1, 2009 11:00 PM CDT
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PrintTraining camp is here at last. As Cowboy fans we have been anxiously waiting to finally see this new-look, streamlined Cowboy unit in action. We’ve all been waiting to see what a healthy Roy Williams looks like in T.O.’s old spot. We’ve debated at length which sophomore corner will hold down the island opposite Terence Newman. We’ve hypothesized all offseason about the role Jason Garrett will be carving out for Felix Jones. With all of these great training camp related unsolved issues, there was still one question that loomed larger than all of the rest in my mind. I wanted to know whether or not we were all going to see this tougher, more demanding Wade Phillips that we were promised.
At his pre-camp presser, Coach Phillips looked at times like a guy who was trying on his tough guy suit for the first time. He was in a few instances, uncharacteristically short and dismissive with the media. He also seemed to be almost fighting his own natural smile, attempting to look a bit more subdued and businesslike. I get it. The guy wants to be taken serious, and is probably a bit tired of the way that he is perceived by members of the media. And to his credit, early reports from camp have players moving in and out of drills at a much more urgent pace than in recent years.
As in most other phases of life, it is a lot easier to go from hard to soft than it is to do the opposite. Actor/Hip-Hop artist Ice Cube was the angriest man in America for the better part of two decades. So when Cube decides to star in a fluffy, family-oriented comedy, he can do so without damaging the surplus of street credibility he has built up throughout his career. We have seen a very rigid Tom Coughlin open himself up just a bit and get a great response from his players. When your perpetually strict father finally cracks open a beer with you and treats you like a peer, you feel like a million bucks.
It is a lot tougher for a guy with Wade Phillips’ reputation of being a laid back ‘player’s coach’ to turn it around and be taken seriously. Still, I for one think that he can do it, as long as he remembers to just be Wade Phillips. If Phillips suddenly becomes demonstrative, and starts launching Bill Parcells-esque personal attacks on players, they will turn on him in a second. I don’t think that’s what he has in mind at all, but a dramatic change will not be taken seriously by the players. Wade Phillips is not that guy, nor does he have to be.
All that Coach Phillips has to do is demand more from his players and accept nothing less. He also has to set rules and enforce them. That’s it.
A coach can be more demanding without being necessarily tougher, or more boisterous. Let’s say for example a wide receiver runs a route that is not to the coaches liking, and the coach wants to see a better effort. Some coaches would rip into the player, single him out, and cause a scene. Another coach may just calmly say "Hey, go back and run that again. I know you can give me a better effort than that. I want you to get better." Wade Phillips strikes me as more of the latter than the former. Different approaches work for different guys. You don’t necessarily have to yell, or throw a clipboard, curse out the poor kid who’s job is to follow you around and regulate the slack on your headset.
As far as setting rules and enforcing them, Coach Phillips will need a little help from Jerry Jones. Jerry has got to allow Wade to levy some substantial fines for team rules violations. Setting rules takes the good guy and bad guy out of the equation. Rules are rules, if rules are broken, punishment will be assigned. Simple as that.
I think that Wade Phillips will be just fine, because I think that the players really do want to win for him. They may not scurry in fear of him, but you can’t tell me the guys on that defense don’t respect his mind. How can you not respect a guy who stays up into the middle of the night, trying to think of new ways to put you in a position to succeed? I think that the demonstrative, tyrannical coaches of yesteryear are slowly beginning to die off. You can’t be a pushover, but with today’s athletes, the "in-your-face" coach can lose a locker room in a hurry. Is Wade Phillips the first guy you would turn to if you needed a speech to send the troops off into battle? No. But considering the way the Cowboys ended the 2008 season, motivation should not be an issue. Hopefully the adjustments that Wade Phillips is making to himself are more along the lines of a tune up than a complete overhaul.
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I think the early stance on fining players who report in overweight was a good 1st step
and according to the DMN only one player reported over his reported weight, they did no know the name but mentioned it was a rookie.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Good to see you too....
…. But I’ve been around, you can look at the right column the recommended fanposts and recent fanposts, I’ve one of each.
I’m not as consistent as I used to be on BSR and TBB, neither is Jarhead or Norm or Joey2Zs or Squidlo or etcetera, but that has everything to do with the number of good posters around, writing the same stuff again and again becomes a burden…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I just watched the Tony Romo interview on the Cowboy's site. I said a year ago or so, that I didn't like
Tony Romo’s ‘cutsie boy’ personality. Raf jumped all over me, mainly because I compared Tony’s manner to some ‘cutsie boy’ actor. I see a different Tony now, however. Down to earth and seriously focused. I think this bodes well for the season. We’ll see of course, but I like what I’m seeing in Romo.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
I just hope he can be seriously focused and fun loving
at the same time… when he’s having fun he’s relaxed and at his best and the most fun to watch, as long as first and foremost he’s just focused on doing whatever it takes to win.
The more interviews I hear with Romo
his coaches, team mates and of course Jerry, the more I realize that the media slant – Romo hasn’t been focused or serious – is a false conclusion. What I am taking away is that instead of just trying to make things work (play calling, other players’ execution, etc) they want him to be more demanding and vocal about what he is seeing and what works for him. That’s what Jerry meeant by “Romo foriendly” and what they meant by asserting himself as a leader. They want him to be more vocal, not necessarily just with players, but with the coaching staff as well.
Romo the slacker is a myth.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
agree 100%
Every team has a clear and established hierarchy. Now, I don’t know exactly what defines the top dogs in a team, performance, seniority, personality or something else, but one thing is for sure, a UDFA starts at the very bottom, just as Tony did. You do not automatically become the top dog, even as QB, when the coaches decide to throw you into a game in 2006. You have got to earn those stripes, and earn them the hard way, by earning the respect and trust of your teammates.
In the first two or three years, you will not be going around telling other players or even the coaches what to do. Just doesn’t happen. Imagine a freshman or sophomore in high school or college going to the coaches and telling them what to do. Just doesn’t happen. What the coaches, team mates and Jerry are telling Romo now is look, you’ve earned yourself one of the top dog positions, now start telling us what you need from us to make you and the team even better.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that is exactly
what is happening. But it unfortunately doesn’t fit the pre-existing storyline.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
The one thing Romo is getting better at
is dealing with the media. I agree with you guys that the football side has never been a problem with Romo.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Yep
How many papers can you sell or how many page impressions can you generate with this kind of story?
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I appreciate Wade trying anything to win, but I'm not convinced his style - tough or not - will be the difference
I’m more inclined to go with one of your final points:
But considering the way the Cowboys ended the 2008 season, motivation should not be an issue.
Wade’s style might be perfect for a group of guys that already have more than enough motivation. He’s not a Jimmy Johnson type, but you don’t always need that. I was as disappointed in this group of players and coaches as anyone here after that Philly game, but I’m inclined to be optimistic again with how this year is starting.
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Romo has not talked to Kitna about Roy Williams.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/tony-romoroy-williams-report-day-4-with.html
Kitna has to be considered one of the world’s foremost experts in maximizing Williams’ considerable potential. Yet Romo has yet to pick his new backup’s brain on the subject.
“Not yet. Not yet,” Kitna said. “If and when that comes, I’ll be ready for him.”
I would have thought Garrett, Ktina, Romo and Williams would have had numerous meetings with film study by now.
What was the point of bringing the guy here.
It wasn’t to win games or get you to the playoffs if something happens to Romo.
Kitna has never done that.
Tell me again how Phillips and Romo have changed.
i thought was odd too
they’re in the meetings and on the field every day, and Romo hasn’t once asked Kitna his take on how best to work with Williams?
How's that go?
Tony: Hey, Jon, how the heck do you throw a pass to this guy Roy Williams?
Jon: You’re the starter?
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
well Kitna has indicated his willingness to help
we don’t know exactly what he would say of course, but he has played extensively with Roy, you’d think he’d have something useful to say about how to connect with him most effectively.
Kitna Is Just Being Polite
The inquiry presumes there is some need to unlock the mystery of Roy the Underacheiver. I am guessing that Kitna is just steering a wide berth around this issue.
yea, I'd be careful to read too much into this...
A. These guys are constantly in meetings, don’t assume Kitna is holding anything back.
B. We’re talking football here, not rocket science. There’s a certain amount of timing and comfort that no words of wisdom from Kitna will accelerate.
C. This whole “Romo needs to change” mantra ignores the VAST MAJORITY of his work – not to mention his “gym rat” approach to football in the off-season. If you want to criticize Romo, why not criticize Ware for all the times he didn’t get to the QB? Not to mention all the running plays where someone actually blocked him (I know, God forbid)… The point is that no player is perfect, and Romo happens to be one of the best players on the team.
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could this be
the first overblown issue of the season? Maybe Romo will simply read Tim McMahon’s article and learn everything he needs to know about the enigma that is Roy Williams. Paralyses by mico-analyses as usual
Ignoring Jon Kitna
would be a good idea. Kitna is the king of blunders and mental errors, things Tony is trying to avoid. In reality, Kitna should be asking Tony for advice, because if you think Tony’s screw-ups have been bad, wait until you get a load of Kitna. He’s the worst.
I'm not certain where that "Wade will turn tough guy" meme got started.
All Wade said was that there would be changes. I think the “tougher” part came from other people’s projections. Maybe the “Little Ball of Hate” and her “Camp Cupcake” accusations, which were bogus.
You’re absolutely right. Wade couldn’t become more like Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells or Vince Lombardi or Knute Rockne if he wanted to. But he can demand maximum effort and getting it “exactly right” and modify workouts and emphasize special teams more and all the little things that constitute “making changes”.
Will these things be enough to get the team over the playoff winning hump? We’ll see.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Exactly
The media concocted the notion that Wade was going to “get tough”. They concocted the “cupcake” myth, and so any “change” in the way Wade runs the team must mean some kind of phony toughness. Baloney.
Phillips recognized that changes were needed, and changes were (and are being) made. He may be a little more terse with the media, but who can blame him for that? When he is in front of the microphone, Wade’s job is the same as Robert Gibbs’, which is to try to give intelligent answers to stupid questions.
Let the guy coach.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
So you give Wade credit for screwing something up
and then making a decision to change it? You are too generous
Do you give him credit for firing the ST coach he hired?
Do you give him credit for firing Brian Stewart, who he hired?
Let’s admit our weaknesses and not bury our head in the sand in the hopes that another year will make him smarter. It’s not the media’s fault? He has made changes in this training camp because it was too soft before. That’s been documented based on the “changes” made at camp this year.
This...
Could get very repetitive very quickly.
I thought that we were done talking about HC changes until next year. Why bitch about it right now?
It’s not going to change. Just hope that whatever he does works and we can enjoy a successful season.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the post
was titled a new and improved Wade Phillips. I’m simply providing my opinion and I do not choose to act like everything’s okay so my fellow bloggers get a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
And it appears my opinion has validity because noone is discussing my content , just my view.
Too many want to provide excuses for a poor job and then will come on here in about 5 months and say how they were for firing him all along.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I’m just saying that this isn’t something that will change this year.
I’m not all warm a fuzzy, but I don’t like to establish alot of hard opinions until after actual games are played.
Let’s see if the slight change will turn things slightly before burying it right away.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I also think...
That by saying things like “Hillbilly Clown” it definitly destroys alot of credibility. Maybe he’s not meant to be a headcoach, but the dude is a helluva defensive coordinator and I think that at least he has earned a little respect.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct
As a coordinator. He’s earned no respect as a HC and deserves none as well. My opinions of him aren’t based on what I think of his as a coordinator.
Who do you give the credit for the 2007 season then? Because I assure you there aren’t too many coaches who have coached a team to a #1 seed and a 13-3 record. I know we didn’t win a playoff game, but to say a guy deserves no respect is definitely a bit harsh in my opinion.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 2, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I dont care for the sayings either. Im still out on his ability to be a head coach but thats a far cry from being the village idiot. He certainly doesnt have a media friendly look about him though.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
Honestly...
I just think personal insults on someones character should be left out when critiquing their coaching style.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course you give him credit!
You don’t think even the best coaches make mistakes?? They all do. The smarter ones make changes and move on. This could be the all-time lamest argument I’ve heard with Phillips – he made mistakes in hiring people so he is terrible. He didn’t screw it up, he brought guys in he thought ould make the team better, the guys he hired weren’t getting it done so the team canned them. Happens every year in the NFL.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
It's actually
One of many arguments I could make but you can’t see anything through your rose-colored glasses other than how Wade is a changed man and a much better coach and how much better the Boys would be instead of hiring someone else.
I’m not concerned with what happens with the rest of the league. BTW, good head coaches hire good assistants and those assistants end up being head coaches elsewhere.
And you respond to my point by calling it lame? Well played, sir.
No rose colored glasses on me
I only argue that of course he is capable of making effective changes. Unlike you, I don’t hang out in the locker room and sit in meetings so I don’t really know what is happeninig and without your black-colored glasses, I am unable to see the future results from his changes. Like most people, I have to wait and see what happens and even then, I’ll only be able to guess why.
Your argument IS lame because you essentially there is nothing at all Wade could do that would convince you that he can or has made changes. If he kept Read and Stewart then he’s not capable of changing. If he fires them, he’s stupid because he hired them in the firt place. It’s convenient for your argument because you can’t lose, but it makes no sense.
I didn’t bring up other teams because you do or shold care about them. I use other teams as a comparison. I’m sure you’re familiar with the concept. You look at other similar things and then try to draw conclusions. Couglin first took away his play calling duties and then later fired Fassel. You would say that proves that Coughlin is stupid because he hired him. I would say that it was smart because he recognized that it wasn’t working abd he needed to make a change. Coughlin aslo completely change his interaction with his players and it helped turn around their season. Wade is trying to do the same thing. See how it works?
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Either way...
It’s training camp…
Bitching about the head coach now seems a little out played.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Kumbaya everyone
Let’s all hold hands. Wade’s a good HC and we should just believe in him for a 3rd year. He seems to be improving. Rose-colored
You don't have to be kumaya...
But you don’t have to cry and whine about something that there isn’t anything that is going to change right now.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
No one is being all rosey...
Just saying we’ll have to wait and see.
Just because you don’t have an overly negative view on things doesn’t mean you have rose colored glasses.
I know there are problems on the team, but I also know that I’ll wait and see, because bitching and crying about something that is a year away from being changed is meaningless.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Then we should stop posting
I thought blogging was to offer different opinions and this story was about the hillbilly clown.
Wow
You definitly didn’t see my point.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey..
You can put your opinion up all you want man, I’m just saying that calling people hill billy clowns and ranting about something that isn’t changing this year seems like a waste of time.
If you don’t believe he can change, then cool, but it’s not like he’s going anywhere this year so you might as well deal with it.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
What is the problem exactly
we’re offering different opinions, no? Not sure what your complaint is.
Also not sure why you keep going back to Eli Manning…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Correcting mistakes
- whether your own or others’ - is a positive change, and not all coaches are willing to do it.
Yeah, I give Wade credit for getting rid of the coaches who weren’t working out, and I give him credit for bringing in Joe D for special teams
Wade gives others credit for the successes the team has had while he’s been here, but he has taken responsibility for the failures and is doing something to fix them.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Wade Has The Opportunity
If you had told me at the end of last year that TO, Greg Ellis, Anthony Henry, Canty, Pacman, Tank – among other – were going to be flushed out the door, my guess would have been that head coach was going, too. Now that Jones and company gave Phillips the complete and unfettered control over the airplane, I am expecting Wade to make the most of this last chance to succeed as a Head Coach. I am especially excited about the Wade attacking style speed oriented defense – and the new focus on special teams complete with a new roster of players (not the least of which is going to be Felix returning punts)
I think Wade is gunning for a top-3 Defense this year
This defense dominated for stretches last year. You get the feeling they can be ever better in ’09.
I am especially excited about the Wade attacking style speed oriented defense
Doomsday III
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The 3-step plan to a new and improved Wade Phillips
The downfall of many NFL coaches has been rigidly sticking to one leadership style, regardless of the situation, changing player personnel or team dynamics. Good leadership is dynamic – the ability to adjust your leadership style to the situation at hand. Phillips understands that, and is making the adjustments he deems necessary.
The clearest indicator that I am seeing of Phillips being "new and improved" is the emphasis he is placing on accountability. Accountability is about holding yourself and others responsible or answerable for the outcomes expected of you, both good and bad. You don’t blame others. And you don’t blame the external environment.
And for all those calling Wade ‘soft’ and whining for another Bill Parcells-like no-nonsense guy with a firm hand, consider that accountability is not about demoralizing players for the sake of making a point or an example of them. It is not about directing players in a condescending manner, or by fear and intimidation. The days of the drill sergeant in the NFL are sooo over.
Accountability is about setting the expectation, clearly communicating it, and then holding yourself and everyone within your sphere of influence responsible for consistently meeting the established expectations.
Here’s an outline of Wade’s 3-step accountability plan as I see it:
Step 1: Putting a stop to the ‘blame game’. Last year, the Cowboys exhibited clear signs of a breakdown in accountability, an organizational disease also known as the ‘Self-Serving Bias’. This means that when things go well, you should get all the credit, but when things go wrong, you are going to point the finger and blame everyone and everything else for the failure. Well guess what, with a little help from Jerry, Wade made sure that none of the players excelling at the blame game are back for the new season. And man, was I sick of seeing those fingers pointing on the field after a botched play!
Step 2: Establishing the principle of ‘Behavior Must Equal Consequence’. When players do not believe that their behavior will result in a consequence, they are free to choose any behavior that feels good at the moment. When players believe that their positive behavior will result in positive feedback or even rewards, and their inappropriate behavior will result in corrective feedback, coaching, or even discipline, they will raise their performance to the standard expected by the coach. Exhibit A, B and C: A stiffer fine system for reporting overweight. Stressing the importance of getting things "exactly right" in practice. Yanking players from reps for false starts and other mistakes, heck, even Witten got yanked for false starts.
Step 3: Acknowledging mistakes and acting on them. In addition to some public Mea Culpas by the coaches and the players for last season, the last months have been about identifying development needs and then taking steps to put the pieces in place to address these issues, starting from Wade’s ‘promotion’ to DC, hiring Coach Joe D, the FA acquisitions which had Wade’s fingerprints all over them etc. etc.
Sounds like a plan to me.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 7:31 AM CDT reply actions
100 % Agree
I agree with One Cool 100%. That was a very well written post, right on point.
It seems to me that this whole notion that Coach Phillips must transform himself into a cross between Gruden & Cower, or else nothing really “changed”, has all been media driven. Of course when the media hounds on some issue, that influences a lot of people & they jump on that bandwagon. We should realize that the media now-a-days are not reporters like they were in the old days. They are paid to stir the pot, create controversy, make an interesting story, Etc.
Remember at this time last year, coming off a 13 – 3 season, JJT had already written two articles about how Coach Phillips was going to be fired at the end of the season, even if the Cowboys won the Superbowl. Was that Sports reporting, or was he just trying to stirs things up? JJT likes to write that he isn’t a fan of the team, he just tells the truth. The truth is, all he does is interject his opinion. To me, he has less creditability than most bloggers.
Personally, I hope it is a long time from now when Coach Phillips leaves the team. But when he does, even if it’s 10 years from now, we will be reading how JJT “told us so.”
Of course we may be reading JJT’s comments from some other forum because newspapers probably won’t be around 10 years from now.
Couldn't agree with you guys more
about the changes we’re seeing and how worthless JJT’s writing is.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Too early to tell
The best indication of Phillips’ behavior will be seen when he responds to true adversity during the season. Can he adjust tactics? Can he hold liable players accountable? Can he make his players understand and execute the gameplan? Reading into his words is pointless during offseason pressers and meetings.
Truthfully, though, he can change his personality not one iota and we can still win the Superbowl. Then what — will era of the softie coaches begin?
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Aug 2, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions
+1
Wasn’t Tony Dungy that way?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
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by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 2, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
Carl, great thread as always
There will always be this idea that a football coach has to be a harda** to be demanding. It’s simply not true. I worked for plenty of commanders in the Army who could demand and get the best performance from their soldiers and still act like a human. Wade can get his players to pay attention to detail and execute with focus without the beat downs. You can find myriad examples of success in the NFL with that approach. And best of all, Wade doesn’t have to become a “new person” to do it.. He simply needs to adopt new habits in coaching and make sure his assistants do the same.
The best organizations are the ones where a corporate culture of hard work and striving for perfection result in players demanding, expecting each other to meet the standard, not just following one task master. When the team buys into that culture, they succeed. It wasn’t until Coughlin understood that and adjusted his hard-nosed style to allow the players to buy in that his team turned itself around.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
The day
Wade is gone, the quicker we can start thinking about getting a real HC in here
Well right
because as soon as you get rid of Wade you’ll of course need a new HC. That’s logical. I think that would also work for the equipment manager and that dude in the reflective vest who waves you to the parking area.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Is it against blog rules
to call someone an idiot?
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Is it against the rules
to just think someone is an idiot?
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
It comes down to this...
Everyone is entitle to their opinions. Especially when they are part of healthy debate.
On this site, you come to expect quality comments, which would include criticism that is backed up with some semblance of supporting evidence.
Wade and the rest of the coaches and players have opened themselves up to criticism because of the way last season finished. On the other hand, Wade has proven he knows how to make this defense work, the team overall has made significant changes, and there’s an argument for optimism.
We’re now starting a new season, so the supporting evidence should increasingly be based on how things are going THIS YEAR… healthy debate around this question is what makes BTB so great.
We’ve signed on for another season with this group, so wishing for next February is a bit premature.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
are we going to do this again
The difference is those guys in the reflective vests don’t need the respect of the team to do their job properly. He doesn’t demand respect and doesn’t command it through his words or actions.
Name a team this year that would fire their HC in order to hire the Hilbilly Clown? Yes, it is against the rules to call someone an idito for providing an opinion on a blog website. That’s closed minded Oskie
Is this a Cowboys player? Is this Jerry Jones? Because for you to say that Phillips commands no respect from his players is a statement that could only be made by someone with inside knowledge of the Dallas Cowboys. And honestly, there are many teams in this league who would be happy to have his defensive prowess lining up on their sideline.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 2, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You're confusing me with the Hillbilly Clown thing
I keep thinking you’re changing the subject to Eli Manning.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
For the record
I didn’t call anyone an idito.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
But if you want to debate this point you better come strong
Because their is no problem bigger than the one we also call the DC. That’s where he belongs, as a coordinator. Ask the other two teams that gave him a shot at HC and then decided he couldn’t do the job.
You are making me laugh. Phillips was seconds away from a playoff win against the Oilers with Buffalo and lead this team to a 13-3 record. To say that he concretely should not be a head coach is a really strong statement and makes you look much more close-minded than Oskie. Also, calling Phillips a Hillbilly Clown just lets me know that you really have no intention of engaging in serious debate.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 2, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll just have to see
what happens this season, won’t we.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
This Kitna,Roy, Tony....
Thing is being overblown.
How many tips can you give someone? It’s not like Peyton Manning could have talked to someone about his connection to Marvin Harrison, because it’s not like Romo doesn’t know that Roy is a big target.
It is all about getting a feel for someone and establishing trust. You can’t learn trust, you have to get used to it.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions
Yea,
Garrett’s and Mike Martz’s offenses are/were similar, but they’re not the same, so what exactly is Kitna supposed to say?
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Now if Garrett wants to talk to Mike Martz
about how best to use Roy Williams, that’s a different story.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
I think he needs to go much deeper
I’m thinking Romo is complete moron for not bringing in Roy’s pastor, 3rd grade art teacher, a former girl friend or three and his mom. THIS is why Tony is a total slacker. He’s not putting in the work it takes to really get into Roy’s head.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Nailed it, Dunk
And Romo also doesn’t have this yet:
… and it’s only 6.99!
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Bet you can get that cheaper in Detroit.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
Yeah...
He should have gotten a pyschology degree over the summer if he was really dedicated.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohhhhh! Dont start that up! Its too late to change our offense.
Maybe Romo, Garrett and Williams should talk and we can end all of this.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
Sorry squidlo,
I really didn’t mean to suggest that. I’m sure Garrett is well aware of the ins and outs of Mike Martz’s offense.
Whether he is or not, this is a completely different team that Roy Williams is now a part of. I don’t remember too many 2 TE sets in Martz’s offenses.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
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