Dallas Cowboys 2009 Training Camp: Practice #5
by Dave Halprin on Aug 1, 2009 11:57 AM CDT
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The Cowboys were in full pads this morning in what turned out to be a very spirited practice. Things were getting a little chippy on the field, a couple of defensive players decided to tackle the ball carriers and there was some physical play from both sides.
As usual, they started with special teams, this time with punt drills. The gunners were practicing on one side and that group included Pat Watkins, Orlando Scandrick, Miles Austin, DeAngelo Smith, Courtney Brown and Alan Ball. At the other end punt formations were going on, Joe DeCamillis uses three protectors on punts, the first unit was Steve Octavien, Tashard Choice and Deon Anderson, the second group was David Buehler, Sam Hurd and Jerome Carter. Catching punts was the regular group of Terence Newman, Patrick Crayton, Willie Reid, Felix Jones and DeAngelo Smith.
On the injury front, Isaiah Stanback joined the group with a sore hamstring along with Stephen Hodge and Tim Anderson. I know, you're shocked Stanback was injured again.
After stretching and warm-ups they went into a feisty session of 9-on-9 while the WRs/CBs battled on the other side. I followed the 9-on-9 this morning. The first run was by MB3 up the middle but Igor Olshansky knifed into the backfield to stop it, MB3 tried another run towards the outside but DeMarcus Ware pursued it down the line to catch him before it could really get going. MB3 did manage to get a nice gain on a run to the right on the next play. Felix Jones started a run outside but cutback to the middle for around 5-yds before Bobby Carpenter made the stop. Doug Free had a false start and was replaced, then Felix took the handoff and after Julius Crosslin and Jason Williams had a big collision in the backfield, Jason Hatcher moved in for the stop. Choice tried the middle and got a few yards before Carpenter stopped him and started a little of the rough stuff that characterized the day by not just touching Choice but wrestling with him for a bit. Alonzo Coleman had a nice run through a big hole up the middle, next Victor Butler got fooled and gave up contain allowing Coleman to get wide on a pitch play. They followed with a draw to Coleman but Pat Watkins snuffed it out. Ware blew right by a Jason Witten block to stuff MB3, next MB3 had a short run, then Felix blew through a big hole up the middle. Felix then slipped the next run to the right and outran Carpenter who was in pursuit and turned it upfield for a nice gain. Choice then had a run to the right side but Carpenter made the stop and pushed Choice to the turf in a little more extra-curricular activity.
The next session was 11-on-11 with the defense lining up in a nickel package on some of the plays. The four down lineman on the nickel were Anthony Spencer, Jay Ratliff, Stephen Bowen and DeMarcus Ware. Carpenter replaced Keith Brooking in this package. Tony Romo started it off with a draw to MB3 for about 5-yds before Bradie James made the tackle. After a swing pass to MB3, Romo threw a bullet that threaded the needle between two defenders for a Martellus Bennett catch. Octavien got good pressure on the next play and probably would have got the sack so Romo tucked it and ran. Romo dumped one short to Felix but Brooking made the stop, then they ran a draw to Felix who had a big gain up the middle.
Kitna came on and threw to Bennett in the flats, then threw and incompletion after Carpenter broke through for what would have been a sack. Spencer broke through to stop Coleman in the backfield, but they let the play run some more and Coleman ran into Mike Jenkins - Coleman stiff-armed Jenks in the facemask which got Jenks upset and they wrestled around a bit after the whistle. Stephen McGee took over and made a nifty little flip-pass to Keon Lattimore while under pressure but Ratliff was there and he ended up tackling Lattimore to the turf. On the next play McGee lofted a floater to the sidelines which Kevin Ogletree caught but was probably out-of-bounds.
Romo was back and tried a draw to MB3 but Brandon Williams stopped it quickly, the next play Romo dropped back to pass but nothing came open and Romo had to hold the ball, frustrated, he just spiked it to the turf. Next, he hit Witten for 10-yards, then he had to avoid pressure from Butler and hit Miles Austin for 20-yds or so over the middle. Kitna hit Mike Jefferson in front of Mike Mickens, then got flushed from the pocket and tried to hit Crayton but Kitna was clearly past the line of scrimmage.
After a short water break they formed up for another round of 11-on-11. They were using quite a bit of 2-TE sets in today's sessions. Romo tried a hitch-screen to Roy but the pass was low and Roy couldn't scoop it up. MB3 tried to get wide on a run but Ware and T-New shut it off. Romo tried to hit Roy deep over the middle but Ken Hamlin swooped in at the last second to break it up. Felix ran a draw play and made a move that broke Bradie James' ankles in the hole and then he ripped off a nice gain. Austin made a nice catch for 15-yds or so beating Courtney Brown. Felix ran another draw for 10-yds before Jason Williams made the stop.
Kitna threw into the flats to Manuel Johnson and Scandrick made the tackle, Jefferson then dropped a pass that hit him right in the hands while he was wide open. DE Derreck Robinson blew right by an attempted block from Greg Isdaner to stop a Coleman run, then Butler had pressure again, probably a sack, but the play continued and Kitna hit Bennett for 15-yds or so. McGee threw to Jesse Holley in the flats and he made a nice move on DeAngelo Smith and Courtney Brown to get some extra yards. Lattimore tried a run but Derreck Robinson shot through the line again, this time beating Turkovich, and stuffed it for a loss.
Romo's last session started with a swing pass to MB3 that Brooking tracked down for a stop, then on the next play Rat was so quick getting through the line he actually hit Romo's arm as he attempted a quick pass to the flats and it fell incomplete. Crayton then caught one in the flats, Witten caught a short one, then Austin collected a pass in front of Jenkins for good yards. MB3 finished Romo's session with a nice run.
Kitna overthrew Hurd and then Choice ran the ball for a good gain. Kitna then threw a pass to the endzone from around 20-yds out that Roy Williams caught making a nice play beating DeAngelo Smith. Matt Stewart then stuffed a Coleman run. Rudy Carpenter threw one to Jefferson on the sidelines and then finished the practice with a throw-away pass out-of-bounds.
I'll be back this afternoon for a second practice.
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in the air!
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Aug 1, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine came in about that fast as well.
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by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grizz,
Timmy Mac reported that Folk and Buehler were practicing kickoff, and it was obvious why Beuhler was drafted for that. Any thoughts?
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 1, 2009 12:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Uh, they did some kicking before the practice got going
But I never saw the team truly practice kickoffs, at this practice or any practice yet.
by Dave Halprin on Aug 1, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
I liked the five yards deep, nine yards deep, a bad kick one yard deep comment. Sounds like he isbooting the ball into the endzone on every kick; sometimes all the way to the back of the endzone.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said Beuhler kicked it 9 times
and every one of them went into the end zone (whereas none of Folk’s did).
by scottmaui on Aug 1, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
correction - it was actually 6 times
but still… 100%
by scottmaui on Aug 2, 2009 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bummed
about Stanback. Gotta stay on the field, kid.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Aug 1, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's already gone IMO
which means Dallas will look more closely at Jefferson and other camp cuts.
I’ll be interested to see who survives the Giants cuts at WR.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
The guy is snake bit, no other way to look at it. I hope he got a good degree at UW. It not only opens up the door for Jefferson but Ogletree, Holley, and Johnson as well. to me it’s a toss up or juts maybe they go sign a WR.
by Capn B on Aug 1, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope they cut him early so we can see more of the guys who have a real shot
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that will happen
If Stanback gets cut, it will probably be the last round of cuts.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No chance of that happening
;-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy
The trainer warned some players would start feeling sore. Especially with three two a days in a row. Still its Stanback.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus its not like he
seperated his shoulder again.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet
sigh, I know exactly what you mean.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are missing the point!
He can’t get seriously hurt if he’s sitting out all of training camp with minor injuries. It’s BRILLIANT!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 1, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Athletic trainer
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Aug 1, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a difference
Between hurt/sore and injured
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Aug 1, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I periodically check in
Until the season starts… any injury questions will be a crap shoot whether I see them or not… sorry
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Aug 1, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Too Bad
I like your explanations. I know next to nothing about medical stuff.
by kindablue on Aug 1, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks I appreciate it.. I'll try to check in more ofyen
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Aug 1, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I appreciate your insights on this stuff too
by scottmaui on Aug 1, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Scott
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Aug 1, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A tweaked hammy
would be nothing for any other guy at camp. But, yeah, you’re right. It’s Stanback.
He has to show he can do something other than stand back and watch.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Aug 1, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on how bad the "tweak" is
Hamstring problems have to be completely healed before you push them back into play. Otherwise it’ll nag at the player all year!!
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Aug 1, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Willie Reid over Isaiah Stanback and Mike Jefferson
Reid can make plays on special teams, can be a speedy #5 receiver, and can stay off the injured list.
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by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scandrick seems to be standing out
As if he didn’t last year, but it seems most of the time his name is brought up he’s giving excellent coverage and he really wants to start.
Everything else looks standard, as long as guys stay healthy.
I do love that were using lots of 2 TE sets, hopefully that’s a trend we keep up, it should be our base formation honestly. If the pressure gets through our O-line having Witten, Bennett, and Felix to dump the ball off too is a nice luxury.
by LonghornsLegend on Aug 1, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Austin is practicing as gunner why?
Because we want the fragile #3 (trying to be #2) WR to take more of a beating in camp?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
no reason for austin to be on any special teams for that matter…
by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 1, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really just seems downright stupid to me...
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I dont know what the thinking is unless there are limited options.
And putting an emphisis on special teams might mean playing some starters too. I would rather have good special teams with back ups.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my first thought when I read that...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 1, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thought here
Don’t put Austin out in the gunner spot.
Maybe this was only meant to be used as a measuring stick for the other gunners.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 1, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Hamlin
As a Clemson grad and ACC fan, it would be great to hear more about how Michael Hamlin is performing.
Thanks for all the great reporting!!
by lonpatel on Aug 1, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamlin
From what I heard Hamlin has played well and has a couple of picks. Im a tarheel fan but hamlin is from the carolinas so im pulling for him
by Capn B on Aug 1, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, he was the best pick of the Cowboys' draft
…which isn’t saying much.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't agree with your opinion of this draft class, 5Blings,
but I am happy that Hamlin’s showing something. The secondary as a whole seems to be doing a decent job. In fact, I’m pretty happy with everything I’m hearing so far about this training camp.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
by 24Hz on Aug 1, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize I am in the minority, but I still have the historical data on my side...
We’ll all just have to wait and see.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means when Jerry has run the draft and traded DOWN, the drafts sucked
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my brother lives in Greenville, SC
saw Clemson play a lot and he said Hamlin was Clemson’s best player the last few years and he thought the Cowboys got a steal when we drafted him.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for CJ Spiller and maybe Jacoby Ford, then yes he was Clemson's best player
I would say he was the best on Clemson’s defense, for sure. As a Clemson fan. And I’m glad we drafted him.
by mdlusk on Aug 2, 2009 5:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
Wade likes him too.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is so much to comment on
But my three players not named Bennett or Jones that I care about are
Doug Free, Bobby Carpenter, and Miles Austin
I have heard next to nothing about Free,
Bobby is being mentioned a lot, in a good way, I wonder if playing behind Oslansky is helping him roam and use his skills more. I have read many positive articles about his play.
Miles Austin is not getting much press but what I do read says hes catching the ball and looks good.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Norm,
I’m not sure that the jury isn’t already in on Carpenter. I mean this year alone the Cowboys drafted four linebackers and signed Brookings and Stewart not to mention Zach Thomas the year before. I know we lost Burnett and Ellis but something just doesn’t sit right with me about how Carpenter has been treated. It just seems a little strange to me for a first round pick.The guy had a good camp last year and look what happened. I just believe that someone on the staff has a burr in their ass about the guy and don’t believe he can be an every down player in their scheme. It will be interesting to see how this plays out when Stephen Hodge gets on the field. If I were Carpenter, I wouldn’t be renewing my lease just yet.
by jevans1729 on Aug 1, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the burr in their ass
is that’s he’s not a physical player. All you have to do is watch him play in the preseason to clearly see that.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting comment...
i do wonder if igor is making an impact with bcarp… i think carp, i think he’s a player… i think if igor indeed helps out carp, he would be a solid weakside linebacker… real excited to see how he does in the preseason games
by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 1, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the coaches must see something in him
Why else would they carry him for three years? If he really doesn’t stand a chance, like everybody seems to believe, why haven’t they already cut him?
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 1, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st round pick.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carp always plays well in camp
Its when he actually has to take on blockers in real games that he can’t cut it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been in any real games
And don’t say preseason because he had a great pre season last year by the accounts I read.
Burnett was better, but he was pretty good when healthy. I’m not sure we know what we have in Carpenter.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not true
He was pushed all the field in preseason games last year. If you can’t cut it in preseason games, you sure as hell aren’t going to in regular season games.
I know exactly what we have in Carp..he’s a 4-3 OLB who can only play as a nickel backer in our defense because he lacks the physicality and toughness to be an every down ILB in a 3-4.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remeber Wade saying
Carpenter played well last year, it was the year before he got pushed around.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him getting pushed around last year in preseason games
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
carp played well in the playoff loss outside
lets not forget, he keeps switching positions… it’ll be interesting to see what he can do when he spends more than 1 season at ilb…
by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 1, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bottom line he's not a 3-4 ILB
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't believe that either...
however, i will believe that if he can’t stay on the field this year though
by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 1, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll be our nickel 'backer on 3rd downs
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't matter if you believe it or not
it’s simply a fact which has been proven each year.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wade addressed it in his presser today
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't listen to Wade
if you want honest evaluations of players, I never heard him say a bad thing about any player.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Formatting
Hey Grizz (and all),
Any way to sum up the practice and point out the notably good, bad and ugly performances so that we can compare those notes with Wade’s assessments when he does his Pressers?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grizz already said he doesn't want to be too subjective in his reports
I think he’s doing a great job of being objective and allowing us to draw our on conclusions.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are there
we are not, I’d prefer a report from Raf and Griz and thier opinions as I hold ther opinions in great respect.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the camp report like this but
I would like to hear thier opinion too.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just did a summary, and promised yet another one soon...
and that is on top of attending practices, writing up the detailed reports, reading his own blog, and … by the way … making a living on the side with his real job
GRIZZ … you need to post that donations link again … some of us were slack and I’m sure others are feeling generous!
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by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can find instant sound bite deep analysis anywhere.
The reason we give weight to many of the opinions provided on this site and they resist the urge to reach nicely packaged conclusions with minimum information.
We compalin about the lame instant analysis of ESPN and others, please do not ask them to provide us more early weekly supported opinions here. Give them two more weeks and Rafel and the others will be providing us meaning well thought out opinions about what happened at the Cowboys camp that you will not find elsewhere
by Trey, on Aug 1, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Terry
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Aug 1, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NORM!!!!!!!
"No room for toe dippers....."
by Lowdaddy on Aug 1, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhhh Shucks
I thought you had forgot.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tradition!!!
Don’t you ever believe I forgot that….LOL!
"No room for toe dippers....."
by Lowdaddy on Aug 1, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats THEJarhead to you mister.
Unfortunately, some hockey fan got “Jarhead” ahead of me.
by THEjarhead on Aug 1, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 TE sets
The coaches seem to be installing quite a few 2 TE setsover the last few days – based on what I’m reading. This is like Christmas and Easter on the same day for me. Every time I read about it I have to slow my breathing for fear of hyperventilating …
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 1, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More 3-4 defenses in the NFC means the double TE set becomes more critical
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Aug 1, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel you
I’m very happy about this too, Parcells failed experiment with Fasano has now come to fruition.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
It sounds like Bennett has taken a big step up from last year. Now we can run the 2 TE and not worry about Romo getting whammed.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 1, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes! Hopefully nothing serious. . .
from Todd Archer:
“In a four-play span center Andre Gurode injured his left ankle and left tackle Flozell Adams grabbed his right knee. Both players missed at least the next play. It will be interesting to see if Adams practices in the afternoon. He’s been given some two-a-days off in the past.”
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/todd-archers-training-camp-observations-1.html
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by 24Hz on Aug 1, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I read they all were back in after tacking a play or two off.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know, thanks, Norm.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
by 24Hz on Aug 1, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Romo was back and tried a draw to MB3 but Brandon Williams stopped it quickly, the next play Romo dropped back to pass but nothing came open and Romo had to hold the ball, frustrated, he just spiked it to the turf."
It would be great if Garrett made Romo throw the ball away on plays like these! This is one of his problems in games. It sounds like there’s great coverage from the secondary (good news or bad?), but when that happens in games is when Romo gets frustrated and tries to do something, equaling a fumble or Int.
So, Jason-PARCTICE throwing it away!
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but one has to wonder if someone was out of place or ran a wrong rout.
From someone who has been ther before, is this new or has Romo been this visibley frustrated before?
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I read
that Felix was supposed to “read” whether to cut his route in or out and Felix ran right into the coverage.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 1, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That def. could be the cause of the problem, but it doesn't matter
That could happen in a game too. People are not going to be open for a variety of reasons.
My point is, start now-if nothing’s open, throw it away!
Start building that habit. There are times to tuck it, run, maybe try something risky-that’s his instinct and doesn’t need to be worked on.
But he needs to get used to just throwing it away sometimes.
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
No one open, throw it away
Maintain possession for another play.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 1, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right. You play like you practice.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Aug 1, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that he spiked the ball due to being pissed with Felix...
… Romo isn’t known for doing that kind of thing. My first guess is that he was pissed at himself for not doing the smart thing sooner, in the end in the offseason he talked about this kind of situation and he just took the wrong turn…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Aug 1, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chandus, this new and improve tough Romo and he was pulling a Marino.
Get em Tony!
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he needs to practice throwing it into the stands
By spiking it he acknowledged the play broke down, in the game it would be dumped. He doesn’t need to practice that. It’s the decision that requires practice, not the throw. He made the right decision.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 1, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like Romo is crisp and accurate, 10-14
with some deep passes
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one thing that a lot of romo haters miss
he has a great completion percentage through his first few years… i think
by CowboysFan4Life on Aug 1, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they ignore a lot more than his great accuracy
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By my calculation, the "haters" miss as much as the butt boys
So it’s pretty much a draw
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 1, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Yep it works both ways.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grizz would you concur with former Cowboys scout Bryan Broaddus's assesment?
Aug 1 2009 | 11:32:06 am
Dallas WR Miles Austin has looked very impressive this morning catching passes all over the field. Austin looks to be playing at a different speed than the other receivers. He is able to get separation in an instant.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 1, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Austin had his best session of camp this morning
by Dave Halprin on Aug 1, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
suh-weet! ::knockin'on wood for him to stay healthy::
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Music to my ears
But I’m not surprised, just stay healthy.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damm seperation in an instant.
Its a good thing he is slow.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A dig at a chicken little.
One poster(you know who you are) contantly claims Austin is slow and cant get deep based on some web site claim he runs a 4.6. Even though he has shown on tape he gets deep and gets seperation consistently.
Even after his first year when people wanted to dump him from dropping passes left and right you could tell he could get open. You always heard someone bitching, “he was wide open and he dropped it.” Of course thats why I liked him. Catching you can teach, seperation from NFL CBs, not so much.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Austin ran a 4.47 at the combine unless I am mistaken, and I rarely am
by quincyyyyy on Aug 1, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I know but this guy doesnt like him.
And truthfully if you can get open consistently in this league it doesnt matter what you timed in the 40. That was my point with him.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I know who you’re talking about.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.47 is correct
here’s a nice pdf presentation on his workout regimen leading up to the combine. Somebody already posted this link in an earlier thread but I don’t remember who and where – hat tip anyway.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 1, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a special talent
that’s why Parcells didn’t cut him as a rookie
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am definitely not one of Parcells biggest fans, but I remember how everyone was confused when he didn't cut Austin
I’ll give Parcells his due on that one.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 1, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Parcells was in love with his athletacism,
He said, Austin was the most athletic player on the team and had a chance to be somthing special,
I think the time is here
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of the new CBs and Safeties
not the second year guys, anyone standing out?
by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope
that Holley gets a shot. Granted, he played against unprofessionals, but he showed some Larry Fitzgerald type mini flashes. He has that playing style.
by Rickyy. on Aug 1, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
unprofessioanls???
Actually a lot of the 4th and Long particpants had some professioanl experience, Holley was actually on Bengals practice squad.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tackling in football practice? How barbaric.
Didn’t we progress beyond such ice age tactics? Tea and crumpets anyone?
by krl97a on Aug 1, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's astounding
how people question the Cowboys toughness down the stretch each season when they prepare so well for the physical rigors of the NFL season….oh wait. Hmmm, maybe that could be a clue why Phillips has never won a playoff game.
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Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 1, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do know...
That Bill Parcells, the same coach that won 2 Super Bowls with YOUR team, didn’t have tackling in practice either right?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, considering the Giants coach, a tough disciplinarian who emphasizes tackling, came so close to getting fired a few years ago, I don’t think there is necessarily a correlation between tackling and winning playoff games. And when you consider that teams like the Rams in the late 1990’s and the Colts in the 2000’s consistently won with lighter, more execution-oriented practices, to say that more tackling is the absolute correct way to run a team is a completely asinine comment. I wouldn’t really expect anything less from a Giants fan though.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 1, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, those Rams and Colts were known for their monster defenses.
Actually I’m pretty sure that Parcells did have at least some tackling in practice, even as late as his tenure with the Cowboys. The current Dolphins under Sparano are doing the same thing the Cowboys are doing, but I’ve never been impressed by the “we’re not the only team that’s not tackling” line.
by krl97a on Aug 1, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anything I would see that as an opportunity to stand out even more from the pack than would otherwise be possible.
by krl97a on Aug 1, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That logic is undeniable. So why don’t the Cowboys just abandon using a playbook then? Or why don’t the Cowboys just run a defense with no down lineman? If they did these things, the Cowboys would definitely stand out, wouldn’t they?
I know I am taking your point a bit far, but the fact is that if more than just one team does something, it means that there is some very real logic behind it. So when the Cowboys are not tackling like several other teams, I assure you it means there is some legit logic behind it.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 1, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you missed my point.
It was simply that the fact that some, maybe many, other teams are doing something doesn’t necessarily mean you should mindlessly follow the latest trend. The NFL is very herd like, and not every fad is necessarily the best way to do things. At no time did I suggest that the Cowboys should not do something simply because other teams are.
I think it’s fair to say that from a strictly football standpoint teams are better off practicing tackling. If you accept that premise then doing so when many other teams have abandoned the practice would provide an opportunity to separate yourself from the others in a positive way. The argument against it is financial in nature; the risk of injury to stars in the salary cap era, and maybe that’s a good enough argument, but there is no argument for abandoning playbooks or standing out just to stand out.
As for "logic", your response committed too many fallacies to bother listing.
by krl97a on Aug 2, 2009 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy into this "injury concern" theory
The players play 4 pre-season + 16 regular season games. This theory of no tackling says that is “just enough” hitting … adding a couple practices that focus on technique and fundamentals? Well, that of course is too much? We pay these guys a king’s ransom, they can’t practice at 100% even for a few days?
If you were to add in another 2-3 days of training camp, where you have the time to think about technique and address old habits, wouldn’t that make you a BETTER tackler during the season? And wouldn’t being a fundamentally better tackler reduce your injuries? Plus, every time someone breaks a tackle, then that’s twice as many guys needing to make the same tackle — again, adding to the wear-and-tear.
Someone pointed out that most injuries do not occur from tackling, but from other random events. It just makes you wonder why they wouldn’t address such a fundamental part of the game.
I think it’s fair to say that from a strictly football standpoint teams are better off practicing tackling.
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by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 3:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Given the seemingly random nature of injuries in the NFL, it would be interesting to see if a real study could find a correlation between tackling (or not tackling) in practice and injuries. I’m not willing to just assume that tackling leads to more overall injuries, particularly after a season like the Cowboys had last year.
by krl97a on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well my first paragraph was simply to address the comment about standing out from the pack because you seemed to insinuate that somehow standing out would be better than conforming (at least that’s how I interpreted it) to other NFL teams.
And while you make some valid points in your second paragraph, I still question whether practicing tackling, something that players have practiced plenty throughout their entire football careers, is worth the risk associated. And while injuries can occur in ways besides tackling, most of those injuries (a knee twist, an ankle sprain) are usually players over-extending themselves trying to tackle someone or trying to avoid tackles. There are of course exceptions, but I think as a general rule, tackling leads to more injuries than not tackling. For proof, just look at Stewart Bradley and the Eagles. He tore his knee in a “live” scrimmage trying to tackle Reggie Brown and now the Eagles are without the services of their young MLB who they were counting on to relay the defensive signals to the team. While you are entitled to your opinion, I (if I were Wade Phillips of course) would refuse to risk a crucial injury like that simply because I want my MLB and my team, guys who have practiced tackling throughout every other level of football, to get some extra work at tackling. And while I recognize that the Cowboys have had a bad history of missing some crucial tackles (Ken Hamlin I am looking at you), I also refuse to believe that those missed tackles are because of a lack of experience at the skill. I believe instead that most missed tackles like the ones in the Baltimore game are the result of being a step out of position or a step slow in play recognition. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion, but I just don’t think the risk equals the reward.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 3, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Bird practiced free throws all summer...
Tiger Woods practices putting / driving / pitching every day…
Rafael Nadal practices serves and returns every week…
At every level of every sport, every top professional practices their trade. Maybe week one is not the time to do it, but certainly ONCE before the first pre-season game, and then once a week before the regular season … life is a risk, you cannot make every decision based on marginal risk. Unless, of course, you’re a lawyer (not aimed at you, just displaying my own personal bias toward that profession)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 3, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They wouldn't though
if they risked their entire season every time they did it. They would do it sparingly if at all, and they would use surrogate activities to prepare for it.
Soldiers don’t shoot live rounds at each other in training even thought that would be vastly more realistic training.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 4, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
This post shows exactly why other sports like baseball or tennis can not be compared to football. In football, there is much more inherent risk when practicing fundamentals and just one wrong move can severely damage a team’s chances.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn’t like the Cowboys are never going to tackle. There is a preseason for a reason and if the Cowboys have real trouble then I am sure Wade will address the issue, but for now there is just now point in risking our players. It is much more intelligent in my opinion to practice the positioning and the execution of the defense since it is in poorly executed plays that many missed tackles take place (see the Baltimore game). And while you and I may not practice using marginal risk to make all our decisions, I think we probably would if we had millions of dollars and the expectations of an entire organization on our back.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 4, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess 4 pre-season games offers additional practice?
I’d still like to see 4 practices (one before each pre-season game) where at least an hour or so is dedicated to tackling fundamentals.
As players, you’re about to go through a marathon of a season that wears on the body; I appreciate this argument against. I just feel that game situations and practice accomplish very different things, and some small amount of time in August is not sufficient risk to ignore such a huge aspect of the game.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 4, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you are saying, but I would rather have the coaching staff evaluate the tackling after the preseason games and then make the decision of whether there is something to discuss, let alone practice. I will concede that if after two games the Cowboys can’t wrap up anybody then it would be fine by me to sit there and use some practice time on the tackling aspect. I think though that this won’t be the case. These guys have tackled for years and I still have a hard time believing that a few sessions of tackling practice are going to have any effect on their actual technique or drive. Deion could have practiced tackling every day, but that wouldn’t have made him a willing and skilled tackler.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 4, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm....
How about the 2006 Bears? Did they have a good defense? Because Lovie Smith, like Wade Phillips and Tony Dungy, advocates not much tackling in training camp.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 1, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
those rams teams had really good defenses, they were just known more for their offenses.
The Colts pass defenses were pretty good, their run defense sucked though, not because of coaching but because they were small quicker guys that couldn’t hold up to the point against the run and defenses gashed the middle.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, "really good" is more than overstating it.
The Rams defense had decent (top 10) stats the two years they went to the Super Bowl but they weren’t dominant, and they certainly didn’t carry the team. They benefitted from the offense more than vice versa. The rest of the past decade they’ve either been mid pack or have sucked.
The Colts defense was ranked in the 20s when they won the Super Bowl. I’m glad they covered well, but that doesn’t carry much weight with our conversation does it?
Regardless, no one said it was impossible to ever have a good defense that didn’t tackle in practice. In general though working on tackling in practice does lead to better tackling in the season. The Cowboys didn’t have a good enough defense last year. They weren’t the Super Bowl Rams, much less the Bears. One part of that was sloppy tackling. Hopefully they improve that this year. They have to if the predictions about needing to rely on their running game and defense are correct. I’d prefer they actually…..you know…..practice at it, like you would at any other skill, but maybe I’m just being unreasonably old school. Maybe their raw athleticism and scheming will improve enough to make up for it.
by krl97a on Aug 2, 2009 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ram's defense...
was better then the numbers suggested. At one point they scored the most points in the NFL, if you score tons of points your defense is on the field more and more then likely you aren’t going to be a top 3 defense and top 3 offense.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The counter to that is....
….that if you have a record setting offense that’s reliably torching teams then opponents quickly find themselves getting out of their game plan and going into desperation mode, which can help a defense, and even let them pin their ears back.
by krl97a on Aug 2, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all seriousness, at least it sounds like Carpenter is fired up.
It would be nice if our 1st round pick can turn into a player. It also sounds like Felix Jones is running well.
Pretty much every time I hear something about Holley he’s making a good play. Just like the reality show. Granted he was going against second rate competition there, but I saw something that impressed me. He fought through every mundane drill with ferocious intensity, he seemed intelligent, had a good attitude, and consistently contorted his body to make catches that were impressive regardless of the quality of the defenders around him. I think the guy is a player.
by krl97a on Aug 1, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Carp can be a player too
just not in a 3-4 defense.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be...
a good even really good nickel LB though. In your base nickel, it’s not like he’s going to be taking on alot of blockers.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll see how fired up he is in the pre-season games when there is tackling
last year he went gang busters in TC but when he took the field in preseason he kind of wimped out. I’ll hold out judgment until I see him play against the Raiders.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 1, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeh, I wonder what he's got against Tashard Choice.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Aug 1, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might just be trying to turn up the intensity of practice. Be glad he is being aggressive.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or prove he can be physical
trying to break his perception as “finesse”
by scottmaui on Aug 1, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Eagle hopes hung by a slender thread, then were permanently dashed
when they entered a totally unfamiliar dimension-The Emmitt Zone."
First 100-yard rusher against them in 54 games.
Yes, that time of year-I’m watching the 1992 Cowboy Highlights (still have a VCR for moments like this), as I’ve dome every year around this time, to start getting ready.
Subscribed to SI just to get the thing!
By this time next year I may no longer have a VCR though, and it might be time to send this tape to the thrift store.
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to get all 3 complete eagle games from that season. Even the loss on Monday night.
We lost, and it looked bad on TV but that was the game where we discovered we could move the ball on them and match up physically with them. That was a growing up game. Good things come from adversity.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The progression that year against the Eagles was amazing.
especially the way the D took over from them the title of #1 in the league.
A fun season, to see the progression from 1-15 to 7-9 to 11-5 and losing to Detroit, to this season.
And having to fight the Eagles off and the last two SB Champs in the same division.
They replayed the whole NFC Championship game a while back, and I was surprised how tough the 49ers D was in that game. Not surprised that they were good, but that they were very physical. Emmitt got pounded.
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a great ride, watching all those guys
grow up right before your eyes. Seeing them turn into that truely great team. Your right the 49ers could play some serious D but their offense always overshadowed them.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 1, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That niners defense was really good. The Cowboys offense was just so damn impressive, certainly in the 93 Championship game.
To quote my dad, “They looked like a well oiled machine.”
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha i think we got to Stanback, he just said he quits twitter.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Aug 1, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
actually it was dcfanatics blog that made him all sad,awwwwwwwww.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Aug 1, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must be
so proud.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Aug 1, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say don't cut, he's good camp fodder
but actually he’s not even good for being a camp ‘body.’
Where are all the posters who had crushes on this guy all winter?
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT
ESPN actually said something nice about Dallas and Roy Williams.
Roy Williams reportedly looked like a “legitimate No. 1 receiver” Friday for the first time since joining the Cowboys.
Between the plantar fascia injury, Tony Romo’s three-game absence and learning a new offense in the shadow of T.O., Williams had a lot going against him late last season. He’s said to be looking more comfortable in the offense “with each passing day,” and his extra offseason work is starting to pay off.
Source: ESPN.com
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for watching
ESPN so I don’t have to.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Aug 1, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I read it on rotoworld.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When is the first scrimmage, or preseason game?
by TONYINCC on Aug 1, 2009 6:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
1st
Preseason game Aug 13th (THUR night) @ OAK
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 1, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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