Dallas Cowboys 2009 Training Camp: Practice #6
Practice was in shells this afternoon. Stephen Hodge dressed out but never managed to participate, he continued to work with the trainers instead. TE John Phillips took some reps as a long snapper early before practice started, joining LP Ladouceur and Matt Stewart. Early on they ran punt drills and Mat McBriar was booming the kicks, I counted at least three between 60-65 yards with nice hang time. They only had two punt returners catching the ball as they practiced coverage, Patrick Crayton and Felix Jones. That might be an indication of the direction they want to go.
After stretching they moved into positional drills and they added a new one today, the LBs covering the RBs on pass patterns. I didn't catch the whole thing but here's what I did see. Bobby Carpenter deflected a pass for Felix Jones but had held Felix before that to be in position. Marion Barber was able to shake free of Jason Williams, Asaph Schwapp caught a pass on Jason Williams but Williams was able to get his hands in and poke it free. Keon Lattimore got a step on Carpenter but the pass was overthrown. Brooking had good coverage on MB3, Felix and Williams collided at the break on the pattern knocking Williams down leaving Felix open. Choice cooked Carpenter on a long pass, Schwapp got a short one on Williams, and Lattimore was able to beat Brooking.
Make the jump.
While this was going on Hudson Houck was working with the whole line, including the TEs on run blocking from 2-TE sets. Mainly they worked on Witten coming down the line on a wham block or shuffling him into the backfield as a lead blocker. The DBs were working with Dave Campo on zone coverage responsibilities especially with two receivers crossing on the same side of the field. The WRs were going through the passing tree but did an extra session where they worked on double-moves on long patterns.
They broke up for 7-on-7 and OL/DL matchups. I followed the 7-on-7 so I could get a feel on the "Roy Question" that everybody seems to be concerned with. In general, what I saw was Romo hitting the first-read when it was open and that wasn't always Roy, accounting for stretches where Roy didn't see the ball. They were also using Roy to clear out the safeties deep or attracting two defenders in a zone and the QB hit the guy left open or the guy with single-coverage. For instance, Romo started off with a pass to Witten deep over the middle but Roy had taken the safety with him on a deep post opening up the middle zone. On the next play, Jenkins and Ware bracketed Roy in coverage leaving MB3 wide open in the underneath zone. Miles Austin ran a nice fade-stop along the sideline to beat Jenkins who had tight coverage but didn't put on the brakes quick enough to get back to the ball. Witten caught a slant, then they motioned Felix out wide and since Romo couldn't hit his primary read he dumped it to Felix in the flats. Romo then made a mistake and didn't see Mike Hamlin (Hamlin2?) in the middle and he almost picked it off but the pass was high and he just couldn't grab it, but he did break up the pass.
Kitna tried to Roy on a crossing pattern but the ball went just off the end of Roy's fingertips. Willie Reid made a nice catch on a crossing pattern, Kitna dumped one short to Alonzo Coleman, then hit Crayton deep who had gotten by T-New. McGee hit Julian Hawkins short over the middle and Bradie laid a pop on him that sent him to the turf but he held on to the ball. In a rarity for 7-on-7, McGee couldn't find anybody open on the next play, so he tucked the ball and ran it.
Romo hit Crayton deep over the middle again as Roy had cleared the safety from the zone. Witten got open on a deep in for a catch, Bennett caught one over the middle as Hamlin2 was late getting over, and then Hurd made a spectacular diving catch on the sidelines. Caryton beat Mike Mickens on an out pattern, then Romo forced one into double coverage of Hurd by Hamlin and Watkins, and Dave Campo managed to get in the way, leading to a mess and an incomplete pass. Kitna dumped one to Felix, then hit Kevin Ogletree on a seam route, followed by another short pass where he missed the read of an open receiver downfield. He closed by hitting Julian Hawkins on a deep pass, Hawkins had lost Courtney Brown on the coverage. Rudy Carpenter then hit Manuel Johnson on a dig route and then dumped a short one to Rodney Hannah.
After the water break, the all came together for a closing session of 11-on-11. MB3 tried a run but Rat blew it up in the backfield and Spencer got in on the tackle because Kosier was too slow on his pull-block. Next they blitzed Sensabaugh who got picked up by the back, leaving T-New alone with Crayton, Crayton was able to beat T-New and haul in a long bomb. Romo audibled the next time to a draw for MB3 and he found a lot of room up the middle before Sensabaugh finally made the stop. Romo audibled again and hit Hurd in the flats. MB3 followed with a short run, then Romo checked-down to a short pass to Hurd.
Kitna gave it to Choice on a run and he made some nice cuts before Watkins made the stop. John Phillips had a nice catch on a well-thrown ball that was over Matt Stewart's head but before the oncoming Hamlin. Hurd ended up wide open for a catch after Courtney Brown fell down. Marcus Spears clogged up a running play, then Willie Reid got open over the middle because the MLB's blitzed but the line gave Kitna time. McGee had to avoid a collapsing pocket and ran the ball, then he hit Phillips who made a nice catch just beating the attempt of Alan Ball to break it up. Lattimore had a short run outside then Spears penetrated the line and blocked a pass in the backfield.
Romo was back and threw a 10-yd pass to Roy up the seam and then MB3 had a short run up the middle. Romo led Austin to the sideline of the endzone but the pass just bounced off Austin's out-stretched fingertips for an incompletion. Witten made a very nice catch for about 15-yds while managing to keep his feet in-bounds, then came a nice surprise. The defensive line rushed and looked like they were going to sack Romo, but they had a screen set up for Bennett who caught it and followed Bigg and Kosier for major yards. Romo finished by hitting Bennett in the flats but Carpenter was all over him for the tackle.
Kitna and Felix collided in the backfield on a blown handoff, but Kitna atoned on the next play by hitting Austin for a TD, Austin had beat coverage by Ball and Brown. The pocket collapsed on the next play leading to a sack, then Kitna pulled a roll-out that fooled Octavien on the pass rush leaving him open to toss it to Ogletree, then he hit Willie Reid in the endzone for a completion. Rudy Carpenter dumped one short to Lattimore, Hatcher tipped the next pass in the backfield for an incompletion, Carpenter then made a really bad throw, and finished by trying to hit Phillips but Sensabaugh swooped in to break it up.
Practice was over. Today was by far the best I'd seen the offense operate in camp, they got the better of the defense on numerous occasions. Tomorrow is a two-a-day but the morning session is a walk-through so I probably won't cover that. In the meantime, I will try to post another summary that will include who I think is doing well and who needs to step up their game.
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YES!
The defensive line rushed and looked like they were going to sack Romo, but they had a screen set up for Bennett who caught it and followed Bigg and Kosier for major yards. Romo finished by hitting Bennett in the flats but Carpenter was all over him for the tackle
I looooooooooooove tightend screens, certainly ones to big tightends who are bulldozers.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or ligtning quick backs named Jones
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Felix returning punts.
I get nervous about injuries, but then they had Deion doing ir, right?
I guess they need to get the ball in his hands as often as possible, if he can do this in traffic, in game situations. I’m curious to see how his skills will translate to punt returns
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not there so this is based only on what I've read...
But I’m not one bit concerned about Roy and Romo. I think we can all agree that what frustrated us the most last season was the pressure on Romo to force passes to TO, to supposedly please the receiver.
Despite the offseason throwing sessions, it takes time for a QB and a receiver to get on the same page. Remember, Romo has been throwing to Hurd, Crayton and Austin for four years now. This is his first with Roy. I’d rather see him find the open man, whoever that might be, while naturally building a rapport with Roy. Don’t force the relationship and don’t force the ball into coverage.
Spread the ball around and find the open man. That’s what makes Romo so good. We saw what happened last season when he starts zeroing in on a receiver, and that’s not what we want now.
Not worried one bit. In fact, I’m encouraged.
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by Brandon Worley on Aug 1, 2009 7:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Exactly right
Roy is doing his job by helping other guys get open. RW doesn’t make a very good prima dona receiver, but that is not a problem for me.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Aug 1, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know...
Is I don’t care if Roy is getting catches in training camp, they are moving the ball, meaning that someone is getting open.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
I love that they are back to spreading the ball around and not forced to feed TO (lest he implode) a mandatory number of times per game.
I am very pleased with the skill positions on offense. As long as the O-Line can stay healthy and cut down on mistakes, we won’t miss TO’s production. That’s my gut feeling.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 1, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double Coverage
It looks like our D is putting a lot of double coverage on RW, anticipating (or hoping) that opposing DC’s will do the same on Sundays with RW.
Never mind the yards and catches RW may have this year (or in TC), commanding double coverage is what RW needs to do on game day. Drawing double-teams consistently not only means that other receivers (boy, do I have a man-crush on Miles ofter 3 days of TC) will always be going against single coverage but also prevents defenses from stuffing the run with eight men in the box, making the life of our O-line a little better, and the life of our RBs a lot better. Add the frequent use of a 2 TE set formation, and our offense will be creating so many mismatches, it’s not even funny anymore. And that is what ‘Romo-friendly’ is all about.
Of course, a team could always choose not to double RW, in which case the man will just use his size and speed to present a great vertical target.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 3:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Which wasn’t that the big worry for most of the TOlites? That there wouldn’t be anyone to command a double team?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TOlites...
eggggselent
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 3, 2009 3:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds good
We need give and take. Sometimes the O wins and sometimes the D wins. I smell balance!!
"No room for toe dippers....."
by Lowdaddy on Aug 1, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
It sounds like they are both making plays,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
not a lot of mistakes to read about, with this many rookies I expected more mistakes.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh who is
asaph schwapp or however u spell it.
by Capn B on Aug 1, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he's a big bruising fullback, and the Boyz signed him as a free agent rookie out of Notre Dame
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not a person
its were they make tar for highways
by thruthicknthin on Aug 2, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope
that they carry everything they learned and all the positive energy into the regular season. :D
by Rickyy. on Aug 1, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
from what i've been reading, it seems like Willie Reid is making things happen
i so hope he makes the team and makes plays in games.
i’d like it if he gets used more in special teams.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's where he would have to make his bread and butter.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he made some plays for the steelers two years ago
and he was a dangerous return man at Florida State.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something Terry would like...
Tony Romo is relaxed and sharp. The one thing people have never appreciated about Romo is that he is a gym rat when it comes to football. Even when he headed to those celebrity golf tournaments, he took a bag of footballs with him. Always has for as long as I’ve known him.-ESPN Chris Mortenson
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I always knew he was a gym rat and loved to practice
It’s simply a shame a lot of cowboys fans don’t know their qb that well.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those are da ones who take BSPN's garbage as gospel
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
by silverblue5 on Aug 1, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isms
That’s simply not true. That’s totally false. You are completely wrong.
Squish.
by Squishmytomato on Aug 1, 2009 8:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Most Cowboy Fans Love and Respect Romo
There are only a few malcontents that carry the water bucket for the notion Romo is a party animal, or too happy go lucky to win, or a choke artist or too fat in the butt to play or whatever the arrows that are thrown his way; Romo is the heart of the soul of the franchise, and fans know this. He will be a champion.
by Iowacowboy on Aug 1, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet
the owner knows it!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEA FANS WHO THINK HES OUT OF SHAPE AND SHOULD NOT PLAY GOLF IN HIS SPARE TIME. But they will all jump on his band wagon when he leads us to a 12-4 season and some playoff wins.
by thruthicknthin on Aug 1, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's actually pretty true.
But that is really just alot of Cowboy fans in general sadly.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
It is really unfortunate, but to be completely honest, I can’t stand the admittedly large number of Cowboys fans who are the definition of bandwagon fans. I also don’t care for the Cowboys fans who seem to have larger allegiances to TO than the Cowboys. By the same token though, I love the community feeling that comes from talking the Cowboys with true, die-hard fans.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 1, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any info?
Adams and Gurode injured?
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-5/Tough-day-for-the-Cowboys—O-line.html
by berkokid on Aug 1, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They continued to practice
after sitting out a couple plays.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A quote from DC.com that sucks (Kitna):
“Backup quarterback Jon Kitna, also acquired via trade with Detroit, knows Williams well on and off the field (the two even connected for a throwback-Lions touchdown during Saturday’s morning practice), and feels the key is getting Williams involved early.
“Roy is one of those players who feeds off of momentum,” Kitna said. "When the ball starts coming his way, he gets a couple catches and starts getting into the game early, he can become a real dangerous receiver, one that I’ve seen intimidate defenses.
“That’s going to be the key – how can we get him comfortable, what are the routes he likes, that he’s going to win at 100 percent of the time. Get him the ball early in the football game, and then watch him roll. Because once he gets going, he’s a sight to be seen.”
Hey, how about you run your routes and are ready AT ALL TIMES and no matter WHEN IN THE GAME it is!
How about enjoying the success of others guys on your ‘team’ instead of being worried about whether you’re ‘involved early.’
I know it’s early, but this sets off bells of being like TO, needing special attention, special routes, forcing balls early in the game.
I’m trying to withhold judgement on this guy-never thought the trade was worth what we gave up- but this kind of stuff doesn’t help, along w/all the excuses about last year.
by Realist Larry on Aug 1, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats not Roy saying that
it’s Kitna. If Roy had said it I would be concerned.
It doesn’t bother me.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 1, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That really doesn't bother me that much anyways...
To an extent most skill position players are like that. They generally pick up momentum. He’ll be fine.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 1, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does bother me slightly is this little snippet
Kitna has to be considered one of the world’s foremost experts in maximizing Williams’ considerable potential. Yet Romo has yet to pick his new backup’s brain on the subject.
“Not yet. Not yet,” Kitna said. “If and when that comes, I’ll be ready for him.”
From the DMN Tony Romo/Roy Williams Report, Day 4.
It’s still early days, but I would’ve thought this should have happened already, what with the accolades Kitna has been receiving as a great potential mentor for Romo. But maybe we’re all just hyperventilating about the Romo-RW connection. We do tend to put everything under a microscope and overanalyze it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 3:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya see...that's what concerns me- Kitna has a plethora of knowledge and experience dealing with Roy W, YET Tony must think he's bigger than the game.
When you get a brand new shiny car, would it not help to reach into the dashboard, and maybe check out the manufacturers recommendations in the owners manual?
by My_2_Cents on Aug 2, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never read any manuals, I only dig them out when there's a problem
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 2, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which happens to be when Kitna's incite might actually be helpful
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure that's exactly it.
He must think he’s better then the game…. give me a break.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's just still bitter we cut T.O. lol
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 2, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Yeah I was thinking it, but didn’t want to be the one to say it.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe...
You just talk to Williams yourself and work it out on the field with him. I heard just this morning that Williams can think and speak.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DING DING
High five on that one.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing concept
Going to the source and not relying solely on 2nd hand impressions. I wonder if this is just crazy enough to work.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 2, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
it’ll never catch on.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its just way too straightforward. Why go to a primary source when you can beat around the bush just for some fun?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 2, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understand the concern
but i think we’re a little tainted from the experience with TO. EVERY receiver will be better and more confident when he gets involved early.
by foyesboys on Aug 1, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a different read on that.
He said Roy is like MOST wide receivers: if they get involved in the game early, catch a few balls, get some hits, get their uniform a bit stained, they tend to build on that momentum and sometimes have monster games. It’s the same reason you’d want Dirk to get some early touches so he can get on a roll. That’s not the same as saying any of the concerns you mentioned, like that Roy is WORRIED about when he’s going to get the ball and how much, or that he’s going to start pouting..
I’m not sure why everyone is so concerned about this guy. There were legitimate reasons why last year didn’t work out so well. He did fine on teams without much talent around. He’ll be fine here.
My grandma used to say, “A watched pot never boils.”
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Aug 2, 2009 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey said those same things about Rice and many others.
In fact I have never ever heard someone say," dont throw the ball to him early, its best to get him started late."
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thet said
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They said, damm soda spilled on my keyboard and everything is sticky.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not another sticky keyboard...
soda? SURE!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh
You gotta wonder what he’s surfing when he’s not on BTB…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yada Yada Yada!
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
you can yada yada a sticky keyboard.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the quote trhat you should be focused on-
Because once he gets going, he’s a sight to be seen."
by My_2_Cents on Aug 2, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!!! ... It's not as if we're talking about a draft pick here!
Roy’s not an unknown commodity. We knew we were getting a guy that fit more into the mold of possession receiver, with a good deal of flash and acrobatics thrown into the mix. Why are people pining for TO-type speed when that is not Roy’s game? Would you rather have Hakeem Nicks? (I’m a Tar Heel, and I’d rather have Tate, but that’s another story).
Roy’s body of work was enough for Jerry to sign him. He’s now had an off-season practicing with Romo (and sans TO) … now they’re finally facing some defensive pressure… let it unfold a bit before jumping ship.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 2, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole Kitna can teach him all he needs to get Roy going is much ado about nothing.
To me its almost laughable. He will know Roy by throwing to him in the offseason(done) and TC(getting done). Then he will know what he needs to ask if any. Romo is completing balls to everyone and completing at over 60%. What is the problem. again.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
by squidlo97 on Aug 2, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BARRING
injury Williams will be just fine, I say about 900-1100 yds & 10 TDs sounds about right.
by thruthicknthin on Aug 1, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not expecting too much
even 70 catches, 800 yds. is fine w/me, as long as the team is winning. I just want him to be consistent, and to not need special treatment.
by Realist Larry on Aug 2, 2009 12:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
especially with the other targets
what I care about is that the catches and yards for all the WRs, TEs and RBs add up to winning a lot of games. Witten is already our #1 receiver in terms of catches. Add a maturing MartyB in the mix with a lot of 2TE sets, along with Felix, Miles et al and 70/800 for Roy could be plenty.
I just can’t wait to see how they use MartyB and Felix to create mismatches. Try to cover them with LBs and Ss and watch them rack up the catches. Try to cover them with CBs and watch the run pummel the nickel.
by scottmaui on Aug 2, 2009 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Different topic: but related to the picture. I'm looking for Hurd
to break out. He’s more of the possession type receiver, like Roy, so I don’t mean top 3 necessarily, because we need Miles to be the Speed. But if Hurd could beat out Crayton, I wouldn’t mind.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Aug 2, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Same here
He might the camp surpriose for outsiders. Just don’t tell DalaiLuke about him…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my pet WR is now Stanbach
… poor guy?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 3, 2009 3:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
... and of course, my fellow Tar Heel
Holley’s doomed too?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 3, 2009 3:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crayton
has been doing well, from what i’ve been reading. Maybe Austin won’t beat him out of the #2, we’ll have to wait and see.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Aug 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what else?
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Hurd, who from all reports is just tearing it up out there.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't hurd
tear it up in training camp EVERY year?
by foyesboys on Aug 2, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year he was attacking the ball...
but this year from what I’ve read he’s really becoming a complete posession receiver.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 2, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a position that has been so maligned, it does seem like an awfully big positive that guys like Hurd, Austin, and Crayton are doing very well in camp. As long as we can avoid injuries in the WR core (knock on wood), I think this is a position that should be just fine despite all the naysayers.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 2, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-deep quality, yet people talk about this as our main weakness?
Romo has a way of making receivers look good. Add in Witten, Bennett and Felix, and it’s easy to be optimistic about our passing game. I think Roy will have a solid year, and I expect the same from the next two WRs, whoever that may be.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Aug 3, 2009 3:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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