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Dallas Cowboys Training Camp: A Look Ahead to Thursday

Now that BTB's on-scene coverage of Dallas Cowboys Training Camp 2009 has come to a conclusion, we get ready for the next phase, a pre-season game. This Thursday, the Cowboys will take on the Raiders and we'll get a first look at this new Cowboys team under "game" conditions.

First order of business: Who will actually play in the game? We've had some injuries over the weekend and into Monday's sessions, so here's a breakdown of the wounded.

Terence Newman has been sidelined with the groin injury and will likely be held out of Thursday's tilt. It looks to be the same for Mike Jenkins and his sprained ankle. Felix Jones missed the morning session on Monday with soreness in his surgically-repaired toe but participated in the afternoon. Martellus Bennett was held out of the afternoon session with a knee problem, but tweeted he is fine and ready to go. Deon Anderson has been out since Sunday with a knee and Steve Octavien has been out since Saturday.

Much more after the jump.

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With Newman and Jenkins out, there's been some shuffling at the backup corner spots. I mentioned how backup corner behind the main three was a problem early in camp, and it doesn't look like anyone has made a move to establish themselves as the fourth CB. Both Courtney Brown and Mike Mickens have had some struggles at camp, and Michael Hawkins, who looked good early has been injured for over a week. Now, the Cowboys will have to use Alan Ball, who was taking reps exclusively at safety for a while, for some of the reps and rookie DeAngelo Smith has now been asked to split time between safety and corner. All of these guys will get opportunites to step forward and claim the 4th and 5th corner spots this week.

Another hot topic at camp, who will claim the fifth receiver spot. Isaiah Stanback was the prohibitive favorite, but another injury has cost him more time and doesn't help the Cowboys gain confidence that he can actually stay healthy. This has opened the door for a trio of guys, Kevin Ogletree, Mike Jefferson and Willie Reid. Both Ogletree and Jefferson had good days at reciever during camp, and Reid is being given every opporunity to grab a spot as a special teams return man. Stanabck will need to stay healthy and shine in the early pre-season, or potentially lose out. This will be a good battle to watch. Meanwhile, for more on the Cowboys WR's, mainly the top-four, check out this Yahoo! Sports article

Keeping the Cowboys receivers on-track at camp, and hitting them financially if they wander, is none other than Commissioner Roy Williams.

"Receivers have fines for mental errors, missed assignments, failing to convert on a route if you block the wrong guy. It all adds up" Austin said. But there is a way to cancel out some of the fines. "Get a touchdown, the more you get the more you can mess up." Of course, that defeats the purpose. Who is keeping track of all these errors anyway?

It's none other than Roy Williams who instituted the system and named himself "Commissioner." Roy adds up the errors as he sees them, writes them on his hand or on receiver coach Ray Sherman's play sheet.

It's a funny article, go check it out.

Having seen new kicker David Buehler kick at  camp, I got a good feeling he's going to stick around. This week, he'll get a real test during those pre-season game-like conditions. I'm hoping to see quite a few touchbacks on Thursday night. He's already got a cult following at camp but fans keep confusing him with other palyers.

"I get ‘Jon Kitna.' ‘Nick Folk,'" Buehler said. "I'm kind of surprised when people in the stands know who I am and shout, ‘Buehler.' We all have the same kind of haircut. We all look alike. It's fun."

I was very curious to see who would step up at the OLB backup spots. After DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer, there's not a lot of experience. Two guys caught my eye at the practices, Victor Butler and Steve Octavien. Both guys showed flashes of being able to rush the passer. I've read that Brandon Williams has also started to have some good days. Octavien is the guy who will really be hurt by injury if it keeps him out of Thursday's game, he needs every advantage he can get to make an impression. I hope all three see action so we can all get a glimpse of what they can do. Matt Mosley's a fan of Butler, too.

Other positions of interest include the backup NT which Raf has warned us about and the play of Bobby Carpenter.

Here are the practice notes from the DMN for Monday.

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by silverblue5 on Aug 11, 2009 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

With T-New & Jenkins not playing in the preseason opener...

… it’ll give da coaches — and us fans — a chance to see what some of the rooks can do.

I’m intrigued with the Cincinnati Kids: DeAngelo Smith and Mike Mickens.

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by silverblue5 on Aug 11, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

The backups should get plenty of reps

they were going to get them anyway, but now they’ll get almost all of them. This is still a worry-spot for me, I wasn’t impressed with the backup CB’s at camp. Ball has some experience so we know a little about him, the rest we really don’t know, but they’ll have an opportunity to make a claim on Thursday.

by Dave Halprin on Aug 11, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aw crap

Felix Jones being sore in his toe is very worrisome to me.

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6

by Grady90 on Aug 11, 2009 3:42 AM CDT reply actions  

It's the DalaiLuke Effect

As much as he’s hurting the Cowboys, he’s really put a hurt on the Eagles and Panthers…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2009 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

just doing my part ...

Currently picking some pet cats on Tampa Bay… you can never plan too early?

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 11, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That made me nervous too

There was a short blurb about it on the DC.com site, he was apparently a little stiff in the morning but practiced fine in the afternoon. It was surgically repaired after all so I guess a little stiffness/soreness shouldn’t alarm anybody.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 11, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shoot

I thought that happened to everyone! Heh heh…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Aug 11, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha

da mystery of morning wood

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm excited for the possibilities this year but depth is a huge concern

OL, NT, OLB, CB…..wow Dallas is really thin at a lot of key positions. If the injury bug stays away the line up is solid, if it hits any of those positions there is a lot of exposure.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 11, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah,

this past draft gave us depth, but no one is experienced. With another season under most of the rookie’s belts we might feel better about the depth on this team.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 11, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm interested to see

special teams this game.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 11, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

That's what I'll

be watching for as well. I would like to see some of our rookies to play well also. Preseason is more about watching individuals and not about who scores what.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Aug 11, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely watching the individual battles on Thursday

The rooks should be interesting to watch. First chance to really see them perform in a NFL game-like setting. I’m started to get pumped, Cowboys football is almost back! Woo hoo!

by Dave Halprin on Aug 11, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chugga, Chugga, Chugga

Wooooooo, Hoooooooooo. Chugga, Chugga, Chugga. Football Train is in the station.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Aug 11, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woooo HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

It’s been a particularly long off-season, but the waiting is almost done, gentlemen!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 11, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any reports?

Is there someone who knows how much they have practiced returns and if so, are they using Felix there still? I know he’s dangerous there, but I haven’t heard much on the special teams’ status…

"If it isn't the Braves, it isn't baseball!"

by rsnookjr on Aug 11, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

When I was at camp

the first week, they were using Felix regularly on kickoff returns, along with Willie Reid. We also saw him at punt returner some, although he didn’t seem to be the main option there. With Stanback back, he’s getting some kickoff return reps, too. Not sure what the exact latest is, but they were considering using Felix on KO returns for sure. Not saying it will happen, but they’re thinking about it.

by Dave Halprin on Aug 11, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know

the talent is there for him to run the returns, but I wasn’t sure how they were lining up in that spot, thanks Dave! While watching him at Arkansas, a Felix kick-off return always had me on the edge of my seat expecting something great…and the coverage team was usually worried about the same thing! HaHa

"If it isn't the Braves, it isn't baseball!"

by rsnookjr on Aug 11, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind the starters missing some preseason stuff.

I do want to see the starting O-line against a real starting D though; I also want to see Doug Free aginst a starting D. Rookies need as much exposure as we can give them. Wish Coleman wasn’t hurt so we Choice wouldn’t have to play so much.

by bad knees on Aug 11, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I am not worried much obout the line, but about the backups

I wish we put Free, McQ and Holland to play against first team D. Also to have three very good CB is a blessing and I hope T-New and Jenkins recover quick. Not that many teams have two good corners, its just a strange circumstance that 2 out of 3 are out with injuries. Hope that John from Cincinnati (ops. I meant DeAngelo) shows something on Thursday.

by dcfanz on Aug 11, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if Romo, Felix and Barber are on the field!

What a disaster that could be.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's no other way to find out,

if its a disaster, better be during pre-season than regular game

by dcfanz on Aug 11, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can someone please provide me the webcast link for this Thursday's preseason game vs Oakland?

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by silverblue5 on Aug 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Man I don't know

that’s a lot of effort…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron, I totally forgot about that...

Seems Wade did too for the first half of the season. Probably due to Newman not being 100% … if we can get our top 3 CBs healthy, I think you’ll see TONS of trouble from Ware and Co.

As for this Thursday, I bet you see a scaled back version because of the corners we’ll be forced to use.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 12, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

There’s so many other aspects that this D needs to get better at before blitzing.

Stuffing the run, being consistent in coverage, forcing turnovers…is it Thursday yet?

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 12, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's Thursday in Thailand :)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 12, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love what Roy is doing...

It’s a sign that PLAYERS are assuming accountability for their performance, like true professionals.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Aug 11, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would NEVER see this under Parcells

I’ve made this point several times, but Wade’s style ENCOURAGES leadership around him. Roy becomes a teacher, and you may be familiar with the expression: “you teach best what you need to learn most” … thus Roy benefits, the players around him benefit from additional coaching, it’s a win-win.

True professionals is a good way to put it, 5blings.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 12, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. Was that from

Siddhārtha himself??

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 12, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

AAAAOOOOOOhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

~~ Channeling something… yes… it’s coming to me… tuning channel with old-school antennae attached to my tin-foil helmut …

coming clear now…

Says… RoRo… RoRoRo … no, make thay Roy Romo … Romo to Roy … Romo to Roy all day long.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 13, 2009 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

few years back Pitt WR's were doing the same thing

moreover, if I remember correctly, if a WR throws a block downfield he was getting 5 bucks or so, even during the season

by dcfanz on Aug 11, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Just as long as the DBs don't start doing that dumb push-up thing after dropping INTs.

I’d rather see them have to shag balls after practice or something. I’d really rather just see them make the pick!

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 12, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

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