Cowboys @ Raiders: Gameday Open Thread II 8/13/09 (Preseason)
by Dave Halprin on Aug 13, 2009 10:42 PM CDT
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That Marty B
Play where he stiff armed the defender to the ground was sweet…
Felix just looks soooo smooth out there running, and he’s just flying while he does it
10-7 OAK
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
0-4 on 3rd downs
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions
I really should study for a math exam, and yet Im watching Cowboys
At least my priorities are correct. lol.
Nice Challenge!
that wasn’t a catch
Geaux Cowboys!
1st team offense
played ok on the 2nd series, and the 1st team defense only gave up a FG, so all in all not too bad for the 1st teamers
Raiders 1st team moved the ball well on our #1 D
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I was more upset about run D, actually...
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Wade Wilson is useless
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
here comes the rhino formation
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions
He's on the fast track to a visit from the Turk
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
carp got stuck on the blitz
bigtime
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions
Their 2nd string WR's look better than Roy and Patrick!!!
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
seriously?
You mean the guys going against our scrubs look better than Roy did going against the best CB in the league?…..im not sure that means anything at all in the least.
+1
Yeah put Asomugha against Sam Hurd and see if he still plays like that. Looks like Hurd lit a fire up under Miles Austin’s ass for the #3 spot, though. This is a good thing!
I don't care about that...
but our 2nd and 3rd stringers (once again) look less talented than thier competition.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
and bradkowski is like Elway
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a well sold screen
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I'm not trippin
But it’s pretty lame to hear all this acountability stuff then see all these retarded mental errors. That’s all I’m sayin.
i hear ya but its not uncommon in pre season
by scandrick32 on Aug 13, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
in the 90's
when jimmy won us 3 bowls…they sucked in pre season …a few of those championship years they were 0-4 in pre season..it happens
by scandrick32 on Aug 13, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I remember being 0-5 one preseason when we played in the American Bowl in Tokyo
and still won the Super Bowl…some people don’t understand
by Kansas Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
expecting perfection the first time out...why even have preseason, huh?
think about what you’re expecting…repeat “It’s only preseason!”
by Kansas Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
the Raiders are gettin' em all now
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't get that
The raiders seem better… isn’t it preseason for them too?
Sure it is...
but not all teams have the same mentality…some want to win…some have younger players (Russell) and need to open up the playbook more…some are testing schemes and therefore use them more.
I’ll bet that if you did the analysis the pre-season records have no bearing on the regular season and in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the bad teams have better winning percentages in the preseason…without the top talent on the 1st team their 2nd and 3rds are stronger.
by Kansas Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't care about winning
i do care that my team appears to have almost no idea how to play or compete.
nice missed tackle
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 10:56 PM CDT reply actions
watkins
Butler got pulled inside
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope TNew and MJenk are both healthy to start the season
we’ve got a big dropoff after Scandrick and maybe Ball at CB
that was Barbie
who got man-handled in the first half on that D. Macfadden 45 yard run….hes not having a real good game either.
Where are the NT?
I’ve been harpin NT NT NT all off season and I hope I’m wrong but I doubt it.
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
I'm rootin for Lattimore for the PS.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions
wow
nice run
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Latt showed some moves there
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
First preseason game or not...
We have looked like crap from the starters on down. Our first team defense was shredded by Jamarcus Russell? You’ve got to be kidding me. We went three and out on the opening drive and nearly self destructed on our only score so far. I’d say we have a lot to worry about. We needed to set a tone from the first snap of the year and didn’t do it. Again…
not to discount the hold on Kosier
but other than that, the second drive from the starters with a thing of beauty. 6 players got touches, and didn’t even have a 3rd down. exactly what we want to see.
and the D gave up a questionable PI call and then made a nice goal line stand to hold them to a FG.
a lot to criticize overall but the first squads actually didn’t look as bad as you make out.
lol
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
shoulda thrown it to Holland
what the heck
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions
I know it's preseason and all, but
Buehler shoulda put that through the net.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions
what if...
Buehler is real good at kicking field goals….does that mean that Folk could be gone (maybe not this season, but next season maybe)?
agreed...its too bad; i had such high hopes for him
but i think he’ll be a camp casualty
by VTcowboys16 on Aug 13, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Go here KS Cowboy
http://www.justin.tv/nomad_sports_net
I’m watching in Wichita myself
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
Yeah,
Maybe we could tell em to search for some NTs, lol. I’m tryin to go to the next game!
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
tried it
but my connection sucks and can’t handle the streaming…I do not recommend AT&T’s DSL.
by Kansas Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
If anyone is going to listen and feel the need to respond to the hysteria here on how this will translate to the regular
season, as parcells would say, consider yourself sucked.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I understand preseason football
What I’m saying is that I see the same problems in this preseason that I saw last preseason that continued throught the year. I don’t want to see that again. I’m not whining, so get that through you head. Got it? I’ve been following the Cowboys for over 30 years so don’t give me that garbage.
was it the same preseason stuff that started the season 3-0
it wasn’t until week 4 last year that we saw a vulnerable team…the Cincinnati game.
Did it take 3 games to see the warts of bad preseason play?
by Kansas Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh
Because no one under the age of 30 has ever seen any team win a championship and because of their age must not know anything about football.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 5:34 AM CDT up reply actions
oh, good lord
poor Brownie
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
challenge it
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions
It was.
Just hoping NBCee it can buzzkill the blackhole
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
we are getting owned….this game wasnt even a good game to watch…i have seen that Stanback, Barbie, Watkins, Brown, and Mickens have done NOTHING to help themselves…
Do y'all worry about the apparent
lack of depth?
Geaux Cowboys!
to be fair
many of these guys won’t make the team.
but yes.
He looked good on one punt coverage, but got pushed inside on an outside run as a DE
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks...
its hard to identify players on this sloppy internet feed I have…
by VTcowboys16 on Aug 13, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Stewart got blasted.
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
I've been sayin...
I can’t point out Nose Tackle enough. It’s been a few seasons now!!! I want to see how this plays out…
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Wade actually looks mad.
Where the heck is the real Wade? Oh never mind keep him
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
1st team offense
looked ok. The defense (or lack of) worries me. This is the Raiders after all.
Geaux Cowboys!
although i have nothing to back this up
i’d bet the coaches don’t want him to kick deep right now and ruin opportunity for roster evaluation
Ogletree nearly broke it
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:22 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah
That is like a Tecmo bowl drop back
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Aug 13, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
groundhog day?
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
good initial pop on that last play
but gave up some steam to the DE on the corner
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Flo has been teaching Free
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions
McBriar is looking good too
and the punt coverage team, another bright spot, after that first bouncing 62 yarder
that one wasn’t great, but overall it’s nice to have him back
Is it just me?
Or am I crazy? I think the NT behind Jay is shot…
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he got a good push just now
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Justin Roger has been in on many plays
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 13, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions
I think
we really need to start looking at a NT the waiver wire, whoever is there is not doing a good job
Thanks GOD...
I thought it was just me… Been harpin this for years
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
I wonder if they are going to let brown on the plane home
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
hahha...
he can ride home with the lugage in the belly of the plane….barbie too
by VTcowboys16 on Aug 13, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This d line
is getting pushed around
Geaux Cowboys!
The best things about this game...
NO INJURIES!
ok i can't watch another quarter of this...
i dont think we will learn anything new
Whole first team offense looked good
FJI10XBTBW
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Free hasn't looked bad
false start, but not giving up pressure from the blind side. that is really good news actually.
Felix J.
SInce this has gotten pretty boring. I’d like to remind everyone how fun it was watching Felix J. on the field!!!!
He’s faster than I am.
WADE!!!!
Find some visible/effective NTs… It’s all I ask for now!!!
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
I can't wait for the games to be on my big screen
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
so i wonder...
what the Eagles have in store for M. Vick? Jerry Jones was NOT happy he landed in the NFC East. They have a quote from JJ on the DMN blog…
Yeaah...I'm not too happy about that.
On the bright side, some McNabb-Vick qb Controversy?
by twistmypepsi on Aug 13, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
vick can have an impact
he still has speed, you have to honor it. desean jackson, vick, macnabb, westbrook on the field in a pro set is a challenge … what do you cover?
what?
would you rather have him or brad johnson? no qb has ever, EVER, run for more yards and TDs. and he sucks somehow?
bad knees thinks everybody sucks
FJI10XBTBW
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
then he shoulda' been a running back - he's been one of the most inaccurate passers
(among starting QB’s) in the league over the last several years
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
A big reason was the Atlanta receivers
they sucked, Roddy White matter of fact was actually one of them. There receivers might have been worse than the Eagle receivers
Alge Crumpler, one of the biggest softest targets i've seen, and i myself watched Vick sling
that thing everywhere but in the numbers time and time again….he’s not a very accurate passer, and won’t be much in the league unless he changes that somehow
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Aug 13, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Ummm...
Well we have our probowl punter back, punt coverage looks improved.
Buehler can kick…
Its early…but there might be some signs of improvement
Bedtime for Bonzo
It’s been fun. Looking forward to another Cowboys winning season!
Geaux Cowboys!
Proctor got
run over on a run play, he was rolled right over by a guy who is going to be working at home depot in a couple of weeks.
I need a chainsaw
maybe this chap can hook me up
by I_miss_Switzer on Aug 13, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, we have learned nothing new about Proctor
we KNOW he sucks ass
by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 13, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
5 positives so far
- first team offense – after their initial slow start, the whole first team offense looked great on the second drive, 6 players got touches, no 3rd downs, should be a good glimpse of what we can expect to see a lot more of
- sam hurd, got picked wasn’t really his fault, got blocking penalty to bring back a run, but otherwise he stole the second quarter and passed Miles on the depth chart
- OScan, Sensi and Ball, not perfect but all making some good plays in coverage and hits
- Punting unit – McBriar still a little rough on some kicks but booming others, 47.2 average, very nice to have him back, and decent coverage overall
- Doug Free – about the only thing we heard about him was the false start, which is actually good, he has done a decent job of protecting the QB
You have to feel for him though.
His whole career just flashed before his eyes.
When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.
Hey it is the 1st preseason game, if he feels that way let him sulk.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Bad knees is right.
We’re going 0-16 this year.
by twistmypepsi on Aug 13, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
He’s one of the guys I really wanted to see do well
by twistmypepsi on Aug 13, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought he was a good pick
I missed on that one. Won’t get excited one way or the other till regular season. Nite all.
And how many people are doubting...
That the NFC Beast will still be the toughest division in the league this year?
Its a week into the preseason
So some good, a lot of bad for the backups
Romo and the first unit put together a beautiful drive for a TD, the o-line looked good, and a variety of offensive players touched the ball on that drive. Just what Wade and Jason wanted. The defense had some issues, but was passable.
Then, the backups came in. I told ya’ll that Brown and Mickens were getting lit up like X-mas trees at camp. Well, they carried that over to the game. Raf warned about the backup NT’s, and that came home to roost. Our backups on defense were horrible. Butler disappointed, none of the d-line did anything. I will give Alan Ball a little bit of props for some hard hits. Kitna had issues with the snap and the timing of the offense, Procter with a crappy snap in the redzone, McQ was…well, you guys know what I think of McQ. I liked the work of Lattimore, too bad the backfield is so crowded. McGee settled down towards the end and did some good things.
Well, I would have liked to see the 2nd and 3rd units show better, but at least the 1st units looked OK and we had no big injuries that I know of. First preseason game, you never know how they’ll play. The backups need to pick it up next week.
Plus, we may score here
Go McGee, put up a TD
by Dave Halprin on Aug 14, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
looked OK to me
would have to watch the tape to know for sure
by Dave Halprin on Aug 14, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah we know you think everybody sucks
Sam Hurd had a poor game huh.
FJI10XBTBW
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 14, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Backup NT...
Has roasted us!!! We need some new ones ASAP imo…
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
I think not...
I can’t stand the poptarts we have for backup NT. Everything starts in the trenches and we lost ever since I turned on the game. I need to have a face-to-face with Wade… Seriously!!!
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
I missed it.
How was the 1st team D? I heard the backups were all bad and the 1st team offense was good.
on top of that Philly picked up Vick, I know, I know
he’s been out of the game for 2 years, but 2 times a year we have to spend time gaming against him, I dont like that at all, it hit me like a train, thought SF will pick him up
Damn, I hate to sound like dome and glome,but I just didn't see much to Hang my Hat on
should have traded the whole draft fror a 1st round pick
Positives for the evening...
First team offense looked good once they got a decent starting field position.
O-line looked solid, good holes for the RB’s, and Romo had time.
Buehler looks like a good kicker/ST player.
Hurd looks ready to grab the 3rd WR spot.
Mcbriar looks like he’ll be his old self, and punt coverage looks better.
Rat’s picking up right where he left off last year.
offense spread the ball around well.
Hope to see some improvement in the back ups next week though.
Well it was a loss, but hey.
One this is just an exhibition game, and 2. you bring up good points, a loss can be a good thing if there is something learned from it. We’ll get them on Thanksgiving, I know i’ll get my turkey leg.
+1
No one was injured, at least no one appeared to be .
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 14, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Beuhler led special team tackles with 2
Barbie only credited with 1 tackle
Not the best
thing that could have happened, but they were picking on Mickens and Brown… Especially Mickens. If they needed a first down they would just throw to whomever he was covering. Saddening to see the back ups do so bad on the running game, but maybe there was a few bright spots amongst the glaring bad spots.
First team looked awesome. I didn’t see the very beginning of the game, but I am excited for this year. I like what I’m seeing from the offense. I see us having a good season regardless of how terrible the play was after a bit.
Quick impressions
Good enough-
Barber
Choice
Backup OT’s
Ogletree (on KR, he was really good)
Good-
Starting O-line
Romo
Witten
Roy
Starting defensive front 7
Buehler
Carp
Real Good-
Felix (wow)
Bennett
Scandrick
McBriar (minus the 1st punt)
Sam Hurd (he was torching the Raiders secondary)
Not so good (or down right bad)-
Procter (even for him, not good)
Alan Ball (couple nice hits, but he was picked on)
Courtney Brown (same as Ball without the hits)
The backup LB’s (Butler, J Williams need a lot of work, but they looked good on ST)
The backup NT’s
Willie Reid
Mickens (worst CB on the field, don’t worry about being able to sign him to the PS)
Misc.-
Lattimore should be on the PS for sure, he looked decent out there
Jason Williams is fast and can tackle well, should be a force if he learns his position.
Carp was by far the best non starting LB, would be nice if he can carry it over to the regular season.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
vick
who gives rat’s ass about vick. he has been out of football for 2 yrs. and why do we have to gameplan for him at all? what position is he gping to play? some sort of running back i would have to guess. we’ve seen how hard it is for qbs to play receiver. he can’t throw so how hard will it be to face him. he’s over 30 now and will definitely need to shake rust off. look at pacman. took him while to get going. worried about vick? please.
vick isn't 30
why do you think he is? just making up things?
ohhh m so sorry
u really got caught me there. he’s 29 so what. the other points i made are still valid so what’s ur point?
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