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Cowboys @ Raiders: What Did We Learn?

So what can we learn from the first preseason game? You can learn a lot, but not necessarily about how the team will perform in the regular season, more about the state of the roster and where the potential problem spots lie.

Watching the Dallas Cowboys play last night, there were some positives and some negatives. It all depends on where you place the most weight. If you want to walk away from the game with some happy thoughts, concentrate on the two big things. The first unit looked good and we didn't have any major injuries. For me, that outweighs any other concern. But, you can't ignore the obvious, our backups were bad.

First units

If you want to get an idea of how the Cowboys offense wants to operate during the regular season, just take a detailed look at the second offensive drive. Jason Garrett was able to use most of his weapons on the drive and did a nice job of mixing up the pass and run. Equally impressive was the job the offensive line did during that drive. Opening holes, protecting Romo and even getting downfield blocks on a screen. The Cowboys have been preaching the spread-the-ball-around offense and they took it to heart on the second drive. Six different Cowboys either ran the ball or caught passes on that drive: Martellus Bennett, Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Felix Jones, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten. That's impressive, especially considering most of those plays were for double-digit yards and they even overcame a holding penalty that nullified a TD and scored again. That is exactly how the Cowboys would like for their offense to operate this year. Notice the even mix of Barber and Jones on that series, too.

The first unit defense had a few issues but overall played well. Ken Hamlin had what should have been an interception but couldn't secure the ball. That's something they've been working hard on in training camp, getting turnovers. The pass interference call on Gerald Sensabaugh was certainly questionable, but they did let the guy get behind them which is a no-no. On the positive side, they held the Raiders to a FG instead of a TD and Keith Brooking got himself a sack. Jay Ratliff got a pass deflection and an almost-INT.

Oh, and they didn't have any injuries! But the starting units I thought would play well, we have a wealth of talent on both sides of the ball. Now, once we got past the starting units...

Star-divide

Second/third units

There's no way to sugarcoat it, the backup units, especially the defense, were just not ready for this game. The rookies have a little bit of an excuse, this was their very first look at live NFL action. They get the benefit of the doubt to improve over the next few weeks. Still, they failed in major areas. They certainly weren't up to Wade Phillips' standards, he was pretty candid about the bad individual play (but not calling out names) of a lot of guys on the backup units. The other guys who have been here for a while and didn't play well last night? They are officially on the bubble with no excuses.

Let's start with the defense. In the secondary, the starting five of Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Hamlin and Sensabaugh are solid. Definitely an upgrade over last year. Behind that though, it's not very promising so far. Based on training camp and the preseason game, the only guy I can have any confidence in right now is Alan Ball, and I think he's a better FS than corner. Mike Hamlin has skills and I noted before how he has a knack for being around the ball, but he needs time and experience to really be ready. Courtney Brown and Mike Mickens got toasted repeatedly last night. Wade said they were trying to play more man-to-man and the guys just couldn't get it done. If injury strikes our secondary this year, we have issues.

Jason Williams actually started looking better as the game wore on. You can see the kid has natural talent and athleticism; he just needs to learn the defense and where he's supposed to be on certain plays. Victor Butler had shown some ability to get to the QB at camp, but never displayed it in the game. He also showed he has a long way to go before he can stop the run. Not being able to evaluate Brandon Williams or Stephen Hodge still leaves some mystery to the backup LB position; those guys need to get on the field next week, along with Steve Octavien. You have to remember we were playing very short-handed at LB. We got some other guys still to look at.

Up front, we have no backup NT. The second unit guys on the line weren't great in the game although Stephen Bowen remains very active, and the third unit was just awful. Wade will go back to the drawing board this week to figure why they're failing and how he can correct it, if possible.

On offense, Jon Kitna's problems with the snap and Cory Procter's awful snap in the redzone made for an erratic game for the second unit. The guy who really helped himself was Sam Hurd, who is making his play for increased playing time. Miles Austin's drop didn't endear himself to the coaches or the fans. The rest of the backup WRs weren't impressive. At RB, Keon Lattimore look pretty good, but he's stuck behind a talented trio. Stephen McGee was a rookie QB learning the ropes. I won't even worry about him until much later, if at all this year.

The microscope was pointed at the second string line, and I think we came away with a mixed-bag. Admittedly, I haven't watched the replay yet so I can't really go into detail about their play, but my impression was Doug Free and Montrae Holland looked all right, Procter had some issues including the botched snap, and Pat McQuistan doesn't look like he can be trusted at all.

We also had some good and bad on special teams. Mat McBriar is back and booming. David Buehler got a touchback and the coverage teams did well covering kickoffs. Buehler even covered some punts himself. That was balanced out by an awful opening kickoff return, a blown FG, and a muffed punt. Still work to be done on special teams. I trust coach Joe D. will get a lot of that corrected. And about the penalties...well, let's just say that next week better be a lot better.

Relax, it's only the first preseason game. Yep, there are areas for concern, but that's why they have the preseason - to iron these issues out. Now, if they're still doing them in the next few games, then it gets very dicey. Injuries happen in the NFL, it's the great equalizer of teams. Having competent backups is a must.

Given all that, having the first units perform well and staying healthy made it a mildly successful start. We just need the backups to step up.

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McBriar

My god is it nice to have that weapon back!!

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Aug 14, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I heard something about

The raiders leaving in their first team offensive line…

True?

McGruber!

by Mojoness on Aug 14, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

first team..

the first team was in there for a while, only change came at QB, where Grad. replace Russell

by LiLGiT on Aug 14, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I

loved seeing Mcbriar back, and I loved that 2nd drive

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Aug 14, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Finally!

After the initial pouting after the Iggles game, I looked forward to the draft. Then I looked forward to OTA’s. Then I looked forward to training camp. Then I got tired of that and wanted to see something in pre-season. This will keep me happy and content for a couple of weeks, then…

I look forward to y’all getting a chance to go over the replays. I didn’t record it and it is difficult to see all at once. Mainly tried to see what they were doing scheme wise and if they were even attempting to match up or run vanilla strictly to see reactions. Seemed to be a little of both ( I did see some stunts and press coverage) but pretty vanilla overall. Let us know about the backup O-line especially as I’m sure that is at the top of the list.

by shaneshot on Aug 14, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah he did

really the entire first offense looked good, very mechanical besides that TD pass. All the plays were executed well.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

felix and hurd were impressive..

like quincy said its great to watch some football

by scandrick32 on Aug 14, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Much can be said

about the backups, but remember, they are the 2nd and 3rd stringers and are not getting the bulk of the repetitions at TC, its not an excuse but if one of the 2nd or 3rd stringers misses an assignment, then the whole unit looks bad. Overall I thought it was a good start for the 1st teamers.
Very nice dissection GRIZZ thanks a lot.

by DCowboy on Aug 14, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I was impressed with

Stephen McGee! He didn’t look as wet behind the ears as was reported in camp. He made nice throws, looked comfortable in the pocket; which is rare for a rookie QB.

by NDCowboy8 on Aug 14, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

He was slow on his deliveries though

But overall I agree. And he is handicapped coming in as he played at runrunrun A&M. You could tell he was much more comfortable running than throwing.

by cow_fanatic on Aug 14, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's going to take a really long time for McGee

to get comfortable playing qb in this league, you can tell that just by watching him last night but he a talented kid and maybe in 3 years or so he’ll be ready to be Romo’s caddie.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 14, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think McGee

could be a really good QB down the line, but he does look like a rookie, looking to run at the first chance he gets.

by DCowboy on Aug 14, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's great though

that he is going to be walked into the position instead of thrown in head-first.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just being smart arse

there is enough Romo golf talk on here without calling his backup his caddie – some might take it literally.

by I_miss_Switzer on Aug 14, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

by the way

you cold shanked that apostrophe

by I_miss_Switzer on Aug 14, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never use the 'S' word

Bad JuJu

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 14, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amazing

After a few sets of downs in his first preseason game it’s possible to predict exactly how far away a guy is and what his ceiling is.

It’s dear in the headlights time for him right now. No way anyone can assess how long it will take for it to come together for him.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 14, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was disappointed in his throws.

He doesn’t seem to have much touch on the ball, which could be learned. He kind of just guns every throw.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 14, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

McGee definitely looked like a rookie

But he is mobile, I got that much out of his performance.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 14, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. He does throw well on the run.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 15, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

what we learned is....

that our season will be determined by the health of our starters, if we stay healthy, we’ll make the playoffs and a serious run to the SB, if key starters go down, we’re in big trouble will more than likely miss the playoffs.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 14, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a very tough time evaluating individual players

when playing with backup units.

First, this is not indicative of individual performance within the scheme. Now coaches can certainly review the tape (and they will) to discern how they played. But the coaches will also be able to account for another player’s mistakes and compensate their judgements far more than we (though Grizz and Raf are better than any Mediot).

What I saw with the 2nd units in particular is some pretty good play against the Raiders first teamers, who by my account played the entire 1st half, with the exception of QB. The Offense was limited by Kitna and some drops, plus the usual penalty or two.

The main area was CB play and, as noted, the run defense. But you have to remember, these were the 6th & 7th guys. But I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if a vet is signed in Week 1 after the salary guarantee drops or earlier if we get any more/worse injuries.

As for Run Defense, it’s just too hard. If the NT sucks, then the ILBs will suck. If the CBs suck, then there will be little or no effective pressure. Too many interrelated parts to make effective judgement.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly...

“As for Run Defense, it’s just too hard. If the NT sucks, then the ILBs will suck.” And so on and so on…

Everyone hears the saying “It all starts in the trenches” but I don’t get the feel that it’s being taken serious. The lines are the foundation of both sides of the ball. U can’t have a good establishment without a good foundation! Behind Jay Ratliff we have squat!!! He can’t play forever. I just can’t get off this case because I haven’t seen any lightbulbs click on the part of the team or many fans and I’ve figured this since the introduction of the 3-4.

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by CodeNamedG on Aug 14, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Been preaching that since the change!

I find this 3-4 nonsense, w/ a constant need for 2 amazing athletes at OLB and 2 rare talents at NT. It’s just too hard to fill those positions as more and more teams switch over.
Pitt and NE have it down due to years of consistency in scouting/drafting-we just are flailing at it.

by Realist Larry on Aug 14, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

The whole reason for going to the 3-4 is that it is far, far easier to find excellent, athletic guys in the 240 range than excellent, athletic players in the 280-300 range.

I take your point on NT, but the rest of the positions are much easier to fill than the 4-3.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think finding guys who have the power to rush/play the run AND the speed to cover

in other words, both sets of skills that are needed to ba a good OLB, is had to find at any weight.
I much prefer the 4-3, but people will never agree on that one.

by Realist Larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Todays game, much to my dismay, is pass early and pass often.

I prefer the 50-50 split but the game seems to be closer to 60-40 pass run. You need a D that can pressure the QB and the best at that is the 3-4. You dont know where the 4-6 rusher maybe coming from. LBs are the best size to speed ratio you have and you have way more of them. Until the league becomes more run oriented Im afraid its here to stay.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 16, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th to 6th rusher is going to come from.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 16, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So 1/2 the Coordinators in the league are stupid?

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 15, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am 100% positive Wade is not comfortable with his NT situation

I bet it is at the top of the list of things that keep him up at night

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 14, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have to

agree. It’s painfully obvious but also really hard to fix.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if they can find

a veteran to play backup NT, they may not bring him in until after the season starts, so his contract won’t be guaranteed.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 15, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I just watched the game. After reading all the posts I am convinced everyone is over reacting. Did Mickens have a tough game. Sure there was very little pass rush at times. I know on every play you can call holding but Mickens ws blatantly grabbed on one of the big runs. Butler also got a nice shove in the face on a play he would have recorded a sack.
I thought you needed to give a punt receiver 5 yards to make the catch.

Some positives:

Special teams coverage teams already looks better than last year.
Butler has some good speed around the corner. Raw but quick.
We missed fewer tackles in this game. These kids are better tacklers.
Our backup NT was playing for raiders. Go out an make a trade for Sands from the raiders,

I would like to see some of these kids playing with the more expereinced players.

Take two steps back off the ledge. It wasn’t as bad as everyone seems!!!!!

by oneforthethumb on Aug 14, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't touch the punt returner

but you can get up into his face until he catches the ball, even on a free catch. They did away with the restricted area.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice summary, Grizz, thanks.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 14, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

After reading the Oakland Blog's optimism about their defensive unit...

It’s GREAT to hear our O-Line did so well!!!

If we avoid injuries on the O-Line, this offense should be able to return to 2007 form…

Great write-up, Grizz

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 14, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

They really did look

sharp.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give the guy a break.

He was in for what 15 plays.
Missed a tackle on russel made a nice open field tackle on oneal.

by oneforthethumb on Aug 14, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just watched the replay.

Hurd was more impressive than I initially thought.

by Jordan Sams on Aug 14, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

This statement stood out to me
Six different Cowboys either ran the ball or caught passes on that drive: Martellus Bennett, Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Felix Jones, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten.

because there was no one complaining that they didn’t get the ball more. I never realized how nice that was until just now…

Thanks for the summary. Great stuff.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 14, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

To continue my man crush....

God I loved watching Martellus Bennett bulldoze that corner.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...

It was even more like vintage Earl Campbell than MB3 to me. It wasn’t that violent like MB3’s, it was more like watching a semi go head on with a beetle.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you could say

it was “Brandon Jacobs on LaRon Landry” like?

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about

“Brandon Jacobs on Charles Woodson”? Or “Jacobs on Ray Lewis”? Oh wait, Lewis got out of his way when they met at the goal line.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mate get over it

Nobody here cares about Brandon Jacobs. Go back to the Giants blog if this is all you have to contribute.

FJI10XBTBW

by aussie_cowboy on Aug 15, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 15, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

+4

He and Felix are set to have breakout years

FJI10XBTBW

by aussie_cowboy on Aug 14, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Felix is especially dangerous. Can’t wait for the real games when Garrett unleashes his full playbook.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 14, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

+28

We may have found our own version of Westbrook…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didnt you hear Sam Hurd?

Felix is ten times better than Westbrook

FJI10XBTBW

by aussie_cowboy on Aug 14, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eesh

He’s going too need to show his work on the word problem…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 15, 2009 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's going to be a long season...

of having to hold my breath. OL, NT, CB and WR’s all have no depth.

SuperBowl? Come on. Teams that have depth and can replace their starters at little drop off are Superbowl teams. Steelers, Patriots.

I really don’t see this team going anywhere soon without JJ drafting some O-linemen and a Nose Tackle. Unless this team doesn’t get hurt. Guess there is that chance. Anyone know what the percentage chance of that happening?

by torchindefenses on Aug 14, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...

Pittsburg and the Patriots have little dropoff with starters…. bullcrap.

I’m not saying Dallas is going to win a superbowl, but comparing them to other teams and saying that they don’t ever have a dropoff when there are injuries isn’t true.

When Troy P. went down in 2007 Pittsburg went from a great D to a good but not great D.

There isn’t a team in the NFL that you can look at every position and say they would be decently covered in every spot.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Bob Sanders

for the Colts, Plax on the Giants, Westy for the Iggles. Everyone has had to deal with it.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching last night's game reminded me more and more how we messed up the draft.

After seeing how Sean Smith, the corner from Utah that we all liked is now starting for Miami it upsets me more and more. This was a guy that we had scouted, that was there at our pick when Jerry panicked at the last minute and traded down. Now as our cornerback depth is being exposed this mistake is coming back to bite us in the arse. Can anybody tell me he isn’t better then Courtney Brown or Mike Mickens??

by Beuerleincouldhavebeenbetterthentroy on Aug 14, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

He probably is better...

but how the hell do you know that? Miami hasn’t even played a preseason game yet.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who in the hell in this league has a top notch 4 corner.

You dont address your 4th CB position in the first 3 rounds when you have more pressing needs.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 14, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 14, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that you do if...

your first corner is injury prone and your second and third are second year players. Just seems to make sense moreso then trading down for another linebacker (J. Williams represents the fourth time in five years we have taken a linebacker first) and whoever else we took with the fourth round pick that we gained.

by Beuerleincouldhavebeenbetterthentroy on Aug 14, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

And

Do you seriously believer your name, because that is ridiculous

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then who would have been backing up Ware and Spencer.

We would have been worried about the #3 OLB. This is a LB driven D. LBs are the lifeblood of special teams which incidently was the lousy last year.

Honestly, do you really know what kind of depth any othe team in the league has. Cassell was pure luck. Their 18-0 had nothing to do with their RBs. Its also the best coached team in the league.

Every coach in the league will tell you winning the SB is part talent and part luck. Dont get injuries in weak areas.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 14, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

no?

point is, that they had competent replacements. Tom Brady went down last year, they went 11-5. They went 14-0 without their starting running back the year before. The Steelers went down TWO OL last year and won the Superbowl. I didn’t include the CB’s in my post because they are rookies and need time to develop. Where are our rookies on the OL and NT? Guess there is always something to complain about but there isn’t any backups that are halfway decent or really even servicable in these positions.
That… isn’t good.

by torchindefenses on Aug 14, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you think that in the preseason for those teams...

that people were thinking that?

I remember NFL network bashing New England for not having a veteran QB.

And the Steelers did drop two OL, and it sure as hell wasn’t good still with them winning the SB. That offensive line gave up the fourth most sacks in the NFL last year and was 23rd in rushing. They won in spite of their OL troubles and New England won in spite of the QB problems.

I’m not saying that there isn’t trouble at those positions, but I also don’t agree that there isn’t any depth.

I thought Free and Holland looked decent on the line, and Hurd didn’t look bad at all.

The CB situation was a little troubling but no one in the league is that deep in corner. NT is the only one that really concerns me, but you never saw spears or orlanksy moving inside which will probably be what will happen if a major injury to Rat occurs.

The Colts had no depth at safety when Bob Sanders went down, and when he came back they won a superbowl.

I’m just saying that every team has this problem in certain areas, the ship isn’t destined to drown yet.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hardly call their line competent

They finished 23rd run and gave up the 4th most sacks. They let both injured guys go in the offseason. The line was a continual sore point for them all year and this entire offseason.

They won because they had the best Defense. This was Baltimore and Tampa, not the 9ers & Cowboys teams.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 14, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saw that

I was busy looking up the stats, then hit post. WTF, it was worth repeating.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 14, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were lucky. They could of had injuries where they didnt have good back ups.

Look, Im just frustrated. Even the dumbest on here knows we could use depth at NT and Oline and SS. We did draft a young Olineman but he tore his bicep. We made an attempt to upgrade our STs. We addressed the SS position in FA and the draft. We attempted to get some developmental CBs and Ss in the later rounds.
I would have liked to see us get NT and I heard alot of names that people brought up who were available when we picked. The thing is, for the last 3-4 years I have heard these draftniks talk about several guys every year, who could play NT but yet I havent heard any of them say “I told you so” about any of them that werent picked in the 1st round. Believe me, their are guys on here that get 1 guy right every 5 years and they will step up and tell you “I told you so”.
Who is this stud NT we missed on.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 14, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I'm not trying to come off as unconcerned...

but I don’t have the feeling that if the depth is bad in certain areas then that automatically takes you out of super bowl running.

Hell, Arizona was pretty damn close to winning one and no one will convince me that they had great depth in every area.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

stud?

It’s not about aquiring a stud. It’s about getting a backup run stopping NT that can play.

Right now, we don’t have anybody. Might as well use a fat guy, any fat guy.

you said: “but I don’t have the feeling that if the depth is bad in certain areas then that automatically takes you out of super bowl running”

unless we don’t get lasting injuries

I reinterate,
“I really don’t see this team going anywhere soon without JJ drafting some O-linemen and a Nose Tackle. Unless this team doesn’t get hurt. Guess there is that chance. Anyone know what the percentage chance of that happening?”

by torchindefenses on Aug 14, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

a fat guy

Misconception.

You can’t just put a big body in there and be effective.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately the draft has passed for this year.

We also just happen to have 2 “any fat guy” currently on the roster. Who is the NT we passed over who can play at a higher level than what we have.
I guess your right, season is already over. Catch next year.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 14, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't you see Tim Anderson?

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 15, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

we may make the playoffs if we stay healthy

the starters are certainly capable.

It’s just that the drop off of talent for the OL and NT and CB’s are substantial enough to derail a contender IMO.

by torchindefenses on Aug 14, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

And that might be true...

but also that is where our coordinators should be coming in and gameplanning and making adjustments around it.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Learned and Confirmed...

There is no way Wade Phillips is going to be coaching around these parts next year.

by Montecito Tex on Aug 14, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

The Cowboys are moving?????

Why doesn’t anyone tell me these things??

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought he meant

There’s no way Wade will be coaching his funny farm’s flag football squad.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 14, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I just thought I’d take the least obvious interpretation. It’s sorta like having Tourettes…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh wait

I missed that the first time! Ding! Score one for APS.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 14, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

APS - ain't easy to get one over on the DUNK!

ding! ding! ding!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 15, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Way you guys should laugh at this one

Seriously, if Wade doesn’t win a playoff game do you really think he’ll be here next year?
With Garrett sitting there, and Cowhler and Fisher out there?
No way.
He either wins or he’s gone.

That’s not Tex, that’s commen sense.

by Realist Larry on Aug 14, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

And who says that he will or won’t though?

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 14, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying if he will or won't. I hope he does, I'm getting sick of these frustrating seasons.

BUT if he doesn’t, it’s definitely more than a 50% chance he’s gone.

And I’d say 90%.

by Realist Larry on Aug 14, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The question is this: what evidence came from the game to support your concern?

“concern” being a mild way to put it

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 15, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not concerned from this game

but I’m concerned from all of last year, and also for reasons others have, mostly lack of depth.

But again, I didn’t make a prediction about us winning a playoff game-I’m saying “IF”
responding to MontTex’s point (which I rarely bother to do)

“If” being the key word.

by Realist Larry on Aug 15, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you're 90% sure that this season will suck?

Dude

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 15, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's saying...

that if Dallas doesn’t win a playoff game, he’s 90 percent sure he’ll be gone. I wouldn’t disagree with that.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 15, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Thanks for helping Fighter out, his reading comprehension suffers sometimes

by Realist Larry on Aug 15, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did we learn?

Willie Reid won’t be making the team!

by Realist Larry on Aug 14, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I was being a litle facetious, but it certainly didn't help.

I’d think his bigest chance is as a punt returner, but if he rips off one or two big ones, maybe.
Not many extra spots on this roster this year though.

by Realist Larry on Aug 15, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for Tennessee on Friday

Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!

by CowboyMan on Aug 15, 2009 1:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Perfect Write Up

Definitely hit on all points that I managed to catch from the game …. in addition to the insight on the backup O-line and backup LBs which I didn’t watch much.

I didn’t enjoy them coming out and slinging it so much and having a quick punt on the first series. I was hoping to see more of the RBs.

Mickens and Brown looked awful as backups. Hurd and Sensabaugh really came through and shown they are going to make this team better.

The backup defense got run over a few series in a row. They did have some very nice stands, but Wade has his hands full to get them confidence and get them into position.

by fuji1232 on Aug 15, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

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