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The VRR: Three Vets Make Their Return; Team Makes Two Cuts

It's good to see Terence Newman back playing ball. The Dallas defense is not the same without him.

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It's good to see Terence Newman back playing ball. The Dallas defense is not the same without him.

Cornerbacks Terence Newman and Mike Jenkins, and receiver Roy Williams, all returned to practice today. Newman has missed the past 11 practices and the preseason game against Oakland with a strained groin, while Williams missed the Sunday afternoon practice with a sprained left wrist. Head coach Wade Phillips expects both players to play against Tennessee this Friday.

Williams could have held back in practice today, but decided against it.

"Going in for treatment the trainer said, you're going to run cords with Britt (Brown) and I said. No I'm not" said Williams who sprained his left wrist going after a pass and landing on it in Sunday's first work out. Williams then opted to play through the pain instead of going through the rehab. "It's a good thing i did, my confidence level went sky high because thought the ball would take my hand and break my wrist. Thank God I have strong hands" Williams said.

He had a tough time sleeping with the soft cast last night and did practice with the wrist heavily taped and he thinks he accomplished his goal of leading by example by not missing the only practice of the day.

"I practiced not only for my teammates and coaches but also for the media side of it as well" said Williams. "If i miss camp , it's a big deal. I don't want to be the guy that doesn't practice because of this or that. I've come to far not to go through camp, we're almost done, so get it over with, go through the pain, catch the football and do what i do."

Newman returned to his starting LCB spot, but will not be returning punts yet.

While Newman participated fully with the defense, he is not expected to play a significant role as a punt returner, which is how he injured his groin in the first place. He's only someone to be used in certain situations, if at all, Phillips said.

"He's been kind of on the edge of punt return anyway," Phillips said. "He's not the returner. He's a guy that we're looking at as a backup or maybe a guy that if we get them backed up, we want more of a speed guy and we could utilize him."

More VRR after the jump.

Star-divide

CB Mike Jenkins also made his return from an ankle injury, completing the reunion of the Cowboys' starting secondary.

"It's normal right now, just a little sore," he said of his ankle. "It's probably going to be like that through the whole season, but it's something I can work through."

Secondary coach Dave Campo said Jenkins might not be able to "do certain things" but that he didn't look rusty in his first day back.

"I thought he did a nice job," Campo said. "He moved around good. I was more looking at how he was moving than anything else. He looked fine to me."

Courtney Brown had a good practice today, making an interception and breaking up a couple of passes from his cornerback position. After the Raiders game, that should bode well for his confidence--something every CB needs. Here's what secondary coach Dave Campo had to say about Brown's practice.

"One of the keys with the younger guys, sometimes they can (get) beat down with us talking about things they're doing wrong. Sometimes they don't rebound from that. I thought he did today and did a nice job."

The Turk visited RB Alonzo Coleman and CB Michael Hawkins, today. Both players were cut by the team. That drops the roster down to 76. They don't have to get down to 75 until September 1, so there's a chance they can bring in another camp body to help fill a thin position.

Stephen Hodge vs. Jason Witten? It sounds like the two have already found some competitive fire between each other.

Maybe the most surprising sight from today's practice came from five time pro-bowler Jason Witten. He and draft pick Stephen Hodge got in some good battles and when a red zone completion ended, Witten heaved the ball at the rookie out of TCU.

"The first time I grabbed his shoulder pads, since tight ends most likely push, so I grabbed his pads, and next go around and I guess he thought I was trying to tackle him" said Hodge who returned to practice this week after missing time with a knee injury. " I was just trying to get the ball out and he threw it at me but it's not a big deal" Hodge said.

Nick Eatman reports that Coach Phillips plans to give the starters more snaps in this Friday's game against the Titans.

"We haven’t finalized how long we’re going to play them but we’ll play our starters more than the last game obviously," said Phillips, who added that decision was not affected by the Cowboys opening up the new stadium in Arlington. "No, we have to evaluate guys and also have to get our team ready to play the first ballgame against Tampa so that's what we're going to do. I don't think anything changes there."

Phillips said he expected Terence Newman (groin) and Roy Williams (wrist) to play some against the Titans and added rookie linebacker Brandon Williams (bruised shoulder) could also return to practice and possibly play Friday night.

Keith Brooking feels that moving to the Cowboys came at a good point in his career.

Tashard Choice is more than understanding about accepting his role behind MB3 and Felix.

"It's frustrating when you're not running the ball as much you want to. But you've got to understand that something is going to be better, something is going to work out here or down the line so you've just got to take it in stride. You can't complain about the position you're in. You're still playing football."

Like Choice, Orlando Scandrick is taking a "team first" attitude and sounds like he's tired of being asked about the starting RCB position.

"I don’t really want to talk much more about the competition or nothing like that," Scandrick said. "I’m hungry, and I want more. I’m not going to stop. I’m going to continue to make plays and, I mean, I don’t know what they’re going to do, but as long as I’m out here I’m going to continue to make plays."

Mickey Spagnola discusses Jason Garrett's options for spreading around the football.

While the Cowboys might not have a dominating offensive player, they have more weapons than you can shake a stick at, and they are now unencumbered to use them all at their discretion without having to worry about some verbal repercussion.

Just count them. You got two running backs now needing the ball in their hands, Barber and Jones, plus a third who can carry his own weight in Tashard Choice. They have a bevy of receivers capable of contributing in different ways, from Williams to Crayton to the emerging Sam Hurd and Miles Austin.

And as I pointed out at the start of camp, you will fall in love with the two-tight end sets formed by Witten and Bennett, their dual ability to not only block like tight ends but run the field like power forwards.

Apparently, DeMarcus Ware is the film study subject for several Tennessee Volunteers defensive ends.

Stars have to dance, right? Evidently, they do. Michael Irvin will headline the cast of ABC's "Dancing With The Stars".

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by thruthicknthin on Aug 17, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Please WADE do not use TNEW anymore

on punt returns he’s to fragile as it is, lets not push our luck with our CB’S.

by thruthicknthin on Aug 17, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’m usually the first to say you can’t play the game scared, but T-New needs to be handled with care; poor guy seems to be falling apart these last few years.

by cypher on Aug 17, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1

I want him used when the opposing team is punting out of their own endzone, won’t happen very often although we all hope it does and his return probably results in field position close enough for a field goal chance without another yard gained. He has never been hurt on a punt return

by cow_fanatic on Aug 18, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's

what Wade was referring to as well – situationally they might use him, and that would be the right one.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, but it only takes 1 hit!!

by thruthicknthin on Aug 18, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO I don’t mind FELIX returning kickoffs, its just

that T-NEW is just too important to the secondary to miss any time due to being injured ruturning punts.

by thruthicknthin on Aug 19, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That 's a contradiction

You don’t think Felix is too important to the the offense to get injured returning kicks?

by cow_fanatic on Aug 20, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't.

I can’t speak for thru, but I think Newman if FAR more important to the Defense than Felix is to the offense. If Felix goes out again, the offense is still solid, but if Newman goes out, the Defense is hobbled.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 20, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with that

Without Felix, our offense will suffer greatly. It definitely won’t be as explosive.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 20, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

But I don’t think he’s as essential the offense as Newman is to the defense. If I had to pick a defensive player with similar value, it would be Scandrick. If I had to pick an offensive player with Newman’s value, it would be Flozell.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 20, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you should look at the replacements

Scandrick replaces T-New, noone replaces what Felix can do. Tashard would be his replacement but you can’t throw him in to the offense in the slot and scare the defense. Defenses have to account for Felix and noone on the offensive side of the ball can duplicate that

by cow_fanatic on Aug 20, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Felix is just as essential as Newman

Believe me, our offense will be severely handicapped without the Cat, we would have trouble scoring more than 20 points a game without him against good defenses.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 20, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what? I'm going to agree with you a little.

I’ve been thinking about it, and with Owens gone, there are only a few other offensive players on this team capable of just taking over a game. One is Romo, the others are Felix and Austin. It doesn’t appear that Austin is going to make that leap yet, if ever, so it’s just Romo and Felix. IF, and that’s a big if, Garrett is willing to unleash him this year.

Defensively, you have Ware, Ratliff, and Newman that can take over a game, I think.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 21, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's all about speed

Now that T.O. is gone, Felix is the only the player on offense that teams really have to account for because of his explosive ability to take any hand off or catch to the house.

Defenses have to respect him. Austin has ability and talent as well but needs to start producing it on the field and if so, he’ll command that kind of respect too.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 21, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not that much better than Crayton.

And is way more valuable and fragile.

Newman, 36 career returns, 8.2 average, 56 long (TD), 4 over 20, 1 over 40, 13 fair catches, 4 fumbles.

Crayton, 75 career returns, 8.4 average, 49 long, 5 over 20, 1 over 40, 46 fair catches, 3 fumbles.

Newman might break them at a higher rate, but not enough to warrant the risks of lower average and higher fumble rate coupled with his injury problems.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great stats BPS ...

And I totally agree with your conclusion

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 19, 2009 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You wouldn't have thunk it

thanks.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 19, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd think Hurd, with his affinity for contact, would be a good return guy.

Did that experiment already fail and I missed it? And what about Choice?

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 19, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The game breaker

Is why you have him return punts in spot duty only, specific situations. Good stats though

by cow_fanatic on Aug 19, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree...

Except he has become injury prone as he has gotten older, and that fumble rate troubles me. Given that he is not really THAT electric, only 4 returns over 20 yards in 49 attempts, about 1 every 12 attempts, and that he is equally likely to drop the ball as break a long return, plus the injury risk, I have to disagree in his case. I understand that that was why a guy like Pacman was brought in, but with Newman, he’s just too valuable and fragile and doesn’t cash in at a high enough rate.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care what the stats say

Newman is capable of taking it to the house, Crayton isn’t.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 19, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why not have him do it all the time?

If that’s the case, why not put him back there for most punts, instead of just in special circumstances? He doesn’t break it often enough to justify the injury risks, his overall average is less than Crayton’s, and he’s just as likely to drop it as break it.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because you never know when he will break one

with Crayton it’s always going to be 9 yards and a cloud of dusk every time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 19, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

So if Newman is really that good, shouldn’t he be the regular returner? Obviously he is more likely to break one the more opportunities that he gets. If they really think he has a chance of breaking one, why not put him back there every time?

The obvious solution is bringing back Pacman to be a returner and the 4th CB, but I doubt that they do that.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pacman was horrible at punt returns

I don’t see that as an obvious solution.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last year, maybe.

But even including last year’s numbers, his career averages are superior to Newman’s in every category, and superior to Crayton’s in every category except fumbles. Here’s the breakdown:

Avg. per return – Jones 9.6, Crayton 8.4, Newman 8.2
Fair Catch % – Jones 11.6, Newman 26.5, Crayton 38
Avg. per Punt – Jones 8.5, Newman 6.0, Crayton 5.2
Returns per 20+ – Jones 8.4, Newman 9.0, Crayton 15.0
Punts per 20+ – Jones 9.5, Newman 12.3, Crayton 24.2
Returns per 40+ – Jones 16.0, Newman 36.0, Crayton 75.0
Punts per 40+ – Jones 23.8, Newman 49.0, Crayton 121.0
Fumbles per Return – Crayton .040, Jones .107, Newman .111

So despite a poor year last year, Jones is still better than Crayton and Newman in every category except fumbles, where Crayton is a rock star. Given that Newman usually only comes out in situations that are supposed to be favorable to the returner, his numbers should be far superior to Jones and Crayton who were full time returners. Jones is more explosive than either, and if he gets hurt, it doesn’t hobble the defense.

I think the most telling stat is yards per punt, where even with his horrible year last year, he is far superior to Newman and Crayton, both because he has better yards per return, and because he calls for a fair catch less often.

The point is moot anyway, since he won’t be back.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 20, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crayton's a rock-star at fair catches...

If you take away his fair catches, his fumble numbers don’t look so sweet.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 20, 2009 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They really do, though.

He has 3 fumbles on punt returns in his career, that’s it. Those numbers above are per return, not per punt. He only fumbles once every 25 returns and once every 40 punts. Newman fumbles once every 9 returns and once every 12 punts. Jones fumbled once every 9 returns and once every 11 punts, but he fair caught the ball at a far lower rate than the other 2.

Trust me, I’m no Crayton fanboy, but I’ll give him credit for securing the ball on punts. For a team that has turnover issues, that’s an important quality.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 20, 2009 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i stand corrected... i thought the fair-catches affected the stats

(and by the way, just read the thread above about Felix / TNew … and I agree with you that TNew is far more important to our success)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 21, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pacrat sucked as a returner

I’d rather have Crayton in all honesty.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 20, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TRUE playing scared is one thing but be smart is another.

by thruthicknthin on Aug 17, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Jenkins saying it's going to be a year-long thing...

Pac is coming back, I’ve been saying it for months :)

by ChrisRichey on Aug 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What for, to lose yards returning punts. No thanks.

by thruthicknthin on Aug 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was worried about that quote, too

but I just saw a live interview with him on the local news and he didn’t even mention the injury. The clips they showed of him in practice looked like he was going full speed with no prob. Maybe he meant that as a ‘nicked up’ kind of thing.

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 17, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he was just being realistic.

Remember the last time you sprained your ankle? (And remember, he rolled it pretty good, the staff at first concerned about a high ankle sprain.) Those things don’t go away after 10 days. You can have pain in there and feel like you “tweak” it for months, even though you are “healthy”.

I busted my leg in a motorcycle accident three years ago, requiring a plate and screws in the tibia plateau and nine months rehab to walk “right” and what hurts most this morning is my friggin ankle.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Aug 18, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

He’ll feel it all season long and probably will sprin it again and still be able to play at a high level. From his statements, it sounds like he has on-going issues with his ankle and is used to it.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pac isn't coming back.

There’s no way in my mind a franchise can sign him now that actual footage of him acting an ass in the strip club has surfaced.

by KaceOFbass on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

he played like crap with training camp. hes not even gonna be able to step up now.

by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jenkins

If he is gonna be hurting all year, maybe orlando should start. I certainly hope newman plays like he did the second half of the season, and is not playing slightly injured.

while I would prefer roy rest and recover his attitude is awesome. It sounds like he is taking a no excuses type attitude and if your #1 wr grinds through a training camp practice(the anti plaxico) then I think that could be infectious and I like that.

by TONYINCC on Aug 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

He and Crayton switched jerseys for practice today.

Roy seems to be a funny, light-hearted guy. He’s was all smiles and sweat in the interview after practice today.

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 17, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the type that will grow on you

I’m interested to see RWs growth, both on and off the field this year. He seems to take the responsibility of being the Cowboys #1 to heart. He worked with Romo throughout the off-season, has shown the right stuff in terms of trying to be one of the leaders on this offense, and I like his comments about coming back quickly from his injury.

TO left a rather large hole to fill – both on the field and in the locker room. We don’t need RW to do it all himself, but it seems his “funny, light-hearted” style could be the right addition for the locker room. And all we need from him on the field is to be a solid contributor — among MANY. He could be the perfect fit.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 17, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If all his hard work and working through pain and leading by example turns into production

on the field then Roy is going to become a folk hero if he continues down this path. The key is he has to produce on the field, and I think he will.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 18, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good signs

He’s certainly got me in his corner with this decision. All I want is some reliable hands, and someone who will move the chains.

We have enough weapons to keep the D’s guessing, and shouldn’t have to rely on just a stud WR ………….

Go Roy…………… You are becoming a Cowboy………………..

by oldtimer on Aug 18, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely agree, it only matters if he produces

A chip on your shoulder or feeling unappreciated can be a great motivator. It can also be taken too far and hurt your performance. I’ve seen it both ways. I hope it brings out the best in him.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 18, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the CB situation is worrying me as well. But you got to give it to Roy, he really wants to shup up his critics and it shows.

I don’t understand all the hate for Roy, there’s even people at DMN and DCCOM named R.W.Sucks—AND THEY CALL THEMSELVES COWBOY FANS!! Sorry, didn’t mean to shout so late at night, but I can’t stand the Roy haters. Roy had the winning td in the one win we had with Brad starting(wasn’t that a nightmare?) and he has been productive on every team he’s been on, going back to Permian HS.
 IF he can stay healthy, I see good things for him this year.

by cypher on Aug 17, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

co-sign

let’s give Roy Williams a full season in a Cowboys jersey before rushing to judgment.

did i want him to do more last year? YES.

was last year’s numbers a fair assessment of how he’ll do this season? Hell No.

the media — and others — conveniently tend to overlook the fact that da King landed him via trade before the ‘08 trade deadline… which was practically midseason. no real time to learn the playbook and get the timing down with our qbs. And that’s what training camp and preseason is all about.

now, if he can just stay healthy…

i’m rootin’ for him all da way!!!

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Aug 18, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many did he play healthy.

Thats the onle real question.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 18, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a media and fan pet peeve of mine

When someone mentions an injury, the first thing you hear – “don’t use injuries as an excuse”. It’s not like the players are saying it. It’s simply a fact that often impacts performance. Why would you NOT include it in your analysis? Jacksonville didn’t go from contender to a hot s***ty mess because they forgot how to play, they went south because they lost their whole offensive line. And yet all off-seson I hear that the QB sucks and Del Rio needs to go…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true dat

if we could just have a full season with minimal injuries — and barely any to key starters — i’ll be a happy, happy man.

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Aug 18, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Jacksonville and Dallas in the SB… you heard it here first.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're the closest thing the AFC had to the Cowboys last year = quality team with injury problems.

Underperforming and being injured are different things in my book… I hope the humility that comes with losing will be just the medicine to motivate this team… Jacksonville has the same motivation, it makes for a good story.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

chargers?

they lost a couple key guys and struggled

by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Chargers should dominate their division. (If Gates and LT can stay healthy)

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 18, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1

Sorry but their D is nothing special, and their offense looks like it should be in the lower half of the league this year.

FJI10XBTBW

by aussie_cowboy on Aug 18, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YEA you gotta be real excited about this season,

it just seems like the guy’s got each others backs and really care about trying to make
each other better so they can be better as a team. The atmosphere surrounding this
team seems to be a more relaxed, and easy going unit. Just goes to show you can have
addition by subtraction.

by thruthicknthin on Aug 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Spagnola is the worst.

And it’s not close.
“and they are now unencumbered to use them all at their discretion without having to worry about some verbal repercussion.”
Does this suggest that Jason Garrett was not using all offensive weapons because he was afraid of Terrell Owens’ comments through the media? Spagnola either believes this, which marks him as either being learning disabled, simple, or stupid. Or, is he intentionally spinning the description of a new product for the company he works for as instructed by the PR/Communications VP? “It’s new Cowboys-Lite!!! With only half the evil TO as before!!!!”
It’s F(&ing bullO(&.
The problem with the offense last season was:
- MBIII got hurt
- Felix got hurt
- TO couldn’t create separation
- Procter is the worst football player in the NFL
- The Cowboys’ second-tier WR staff is miserable, and, RWII showed up with a foot injury.
NONE of the playcalling had to do with Garrett worrying about TO being a prima donna. And, if it did, Garrett should be fired. And for Spagnola to suggest that Garrett’s #1 agenda was mollifying TO by sacrificing offensive efficiency, means, as I’ve said before 1,000,000 times… it means Spagnola’s the worst. Why does anyone pay a mote of attention to the Cowboys’ water carrier? It’s not a dig, it’s literally his job to write propaganda in favor of the Cowboys.

by Joey2zs on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

I think TO did have some influence on what happened but your right the injuries were a huge part of it. Proctor played poorly too.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 18, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spagnola is the voice

of the cowboys.
so he’s saying their contention is they couldn’t fully use all their weapons because encumbered by TO’s verbal repercussions?
He’s a Cowboys employee. He’s on the PR staff.
it’s just pure baloney.
He’s not a reporter or a journalist. He’s a PR flak.

by Joey2zs on Aug 18, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree,

I think he (you know who), had a negative affect on Romo’s decision making.

by thruthicknthin on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And not just TO

I think the pressure was coming from Jerry as well to get the ball to Owens. He said that several times.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be surprised if TO got into Jason's head a bit too

Every offensive coordinator wants to get the ball to their #1 WR, but with TO, it was just a little more obviously a priority. You can’t blame Garrett for wanting to get a big game out of TO. Knowing that a quiet first few series can affect a head-case like TO isn’t rocket science, it is common sense. With this in mind, Garrett would be crazy NOT to try and scheme TO into the game early (what O-coordinator wouldn’t scheme for his #1?).

The problem is that “early and often” became too obvious a routine. And without Felix, Barber, a solid O-line and a healthy Romo, the offense began to show it’s faults.

I expect Garrett to have another solid year – his genius will shine. Given the number and depth of weapons (including our WR depth — I TOTALLY DISAGREED with the “weak WR” comment) in both the passing and running game, this offense will only be stopped by another rash of injuries.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 18, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is all probably true

from everything I can tell, they’re goal is to get mutliple players invilved so that they are not predictable and easily stopped once teams have a ton of film on them. Being highly reliant on one player to move your offense is tailor-made for good defenses to take that aspect away from you. I think this is part of what Jones meant by being “Romo Friendly”.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mickey sucks

alert the media

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill

by HudBaby on Aug 18, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, they suck too (albeit in the opposite direction). So now you have gone and made a never ending circle of reporting about crappy media. Now where am I going to get my fluff pieces and blogs written by writers on a whim (I am looking at you JJT) without any real thought?

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 18, 2009 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of what you say is true, so what?

I was doing fine not thinking about TO. If I don’t like Mickey, I don’t read Mickey

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 18, 2009 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel it to.

Everytime I am about to get “you know who” out of my head, some dumb * has to bring him back up. Let it go and let “you know who” freeze his KayJoknees off in Buffalo.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Aug 18, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even though I am pretty sure it's not true as long as Al Davis owns a team

I always laugh when I see this

Procter is the worst football player in the NFL

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I laughed, too.

But Proctor has to be in the conversation. He sucks.

by illcowboy on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joey,

I’m sorry but I think you should tell peolple how you really feel. You also forgot the management decision to keep Brad Johnson as the backup QB. He was physically encumbered to start with as respects his throwing arm. I agree with you 100% but they found their whipping boy and people like Spags are riding him for all their worth. How they spin this season should be very interesting.

by jevans1729 on Aug 18, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always had a problem with that theory.

If that was truly the case, that the offense was called a certain way because of Owens, then Garrett, Wade, and Romo all need to be fired.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably.

That loss definitely belongs to the coaching staff, in my opinion. Just like the Arizona loss belongs to the Special Teams and the Pittsburgh loss belongs to Romo. Give the Rams and Giants ones to Brad Johnson, and we’ll say team effort for Baltimore and Philly, although I personally blame the offense more for those.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You blame the offense more for coming back TWICE against the Ravens?

… while the defense gave up the two longest consecutive runs in history?

WOW.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 19, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame both for the Ravens loss......

The offense came out flat and looked like they were toying with the Ravens. When they got behind in the second half, they finally woke up and started playing with some urgency. Then the defense fell apart. This was the only game of the year that I got to go to and the team decided to not show up. It was a total disgrace IMO.

by texstar on Aug 19, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Really all 3 units shared blame. The fake FG attempt that BAL ran ended up getting them a TD on that drive.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, they came back?

At what point were they ahead or even tied? Or even driving where a score would tie and give them the lead?

Let me look over the game real quick:

Cowboys Drive 1 – Interception
Ravens Drive 1 – Forced fumble by Ware, recovered by Ellis at BAL 4.
Cowboys Drive 2 – 3 plays, 4 yards, TD!
Ravens Drive 2 – 10 plays, FG – key plays – DAL offsides on 3rd and 3 and 21 yd PI call.
Cowboys Drive 3 – 4 plays then Punt, last 2 plays – incomplete pass, sack
Ravens Drive 3 – 3 and out
Cowboys Drive 4 – 3 and out
Ravens Drive 4 – starts from DAL 46, 10 plays, FG, key play – 23 yd pass to Heap on 3rd and 5
Cowboys Drive 5 – 5 plays then Punt, last 2 plays were incomplete passes
Ravens Drive 5 – 7 plays then punt
Cowboys Drive 6 – 3 and out, includes 2 incomplete passes
Ravens Drive 6 – 3 and out
Cowboys Drive 7 – Interception
Ravens Drive 7 – Starts at DAL 49, 7 plays, FG
Ravens Drive 8 – 4 plays then punt
Cowboys Drive 8 – 3 and out
Ravens Drive 9 – 6 plays then punt
Cowboys Drive 9 – 3 and out
Ravens Drive 10 – Starts at DAL 37, 7 plays, TD, key play – fake FG for first down
Cowboys Drive 10 – 12 plays, FG!
Ravens Drive 11 – 9 plays, FG, key plays- 11 yd pass on 3rd and and 6, Unnecessary Roughness penalty to move ball to DAL 22.

So at that point, it was 19-10. You know what happened after that. It’s not an excuse, but the Dallas offense had 10 drives and managed to gain 170 yards, with 2 turnovers, 4 3 & outs, 1 4 & out, and 1 5 & out. Their only TD was when the defense got them the ball at the 4 yard line, and they managed a 12 play 51 yard drive for a FG. Yes, the D should have stopped them, but it’s understandable that they were worn down by that point. The Ravens D was worn down too, which is why the Cowboys finally started scoring. Further, they were never ahead or even tied, once the Ravens got the lead in the 2nd quarter, so I don’t know that a comeback was a given, especially since the Cowboys last drive started at the BAL 44 and they turned it over on downs at the BAL 38. I blame the D also, but the offense more. It’s subjective, but that’s the way that I see it.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What ticked me the most,

other than the two runs because that’s just embarrassing and unmanly, was that there was no pressure on Flacco in the second half. Not sure but it seemed to me at the time to be because they stopped blitzing. We all know when you have a rookie QB under center…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 19, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice break-down, BPS ...

Honestly, it’s posts like this that really MAKE the comments

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 20, 2009 3:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

While it's true that....

…..The offense didn’t give the defense much time to catch their breath against the Ravens, have any of the great Steelers defenses ever used that as an excuse to give up flukishly long TD runs? Also, gassed or not, they got worked over pretty good by a rookie QB. Even if “they” happened to be one Anthony Henry a lot of the time. But where was the pass rush after Ware’s early forced fumble?

Certainly, Romo’s three horribly botched passes (including missing Austin for a TD) in that game were inexcusable. But true elite defenses just don’t give up unfathomable runs like that; I don’t care if they’d been on the field for 53 minutes.

by MadMick on Aug 19, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did they?

They allowed 19 points prior to those 2 runs, including 13 on drives that started in Dallas territory. Flacco’s rating was really good, but he only had 149 yards passing, was sacked 5 times and was forced to run 4 times for 4 yards. His biggest contribution was only turning the ball over once and completing at a high rate, but I wouldn’t say that 9 broken plays and less than 150 yards passing is working them over.

And I’m not claiming that Dallas’ D was elite last year, and especially not in the 4th quarter of that game, but it’s not like the game was in hand and they gave it away. I didn’t say that I solely blame the offense, I said I blame them more.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 20, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I reckon I can't help but give both units equal blame.

Or more to the point I really can’t give the defense any kind of pass at all for their effort against the Ravens. Fluke TD runs or not; giving up 36 to the Ravens because your D is exhausted and put in unfavorable situations is the equivalent to giving up 84 to the Patsies under similiarly unfavorable circumstances. That’s how far from elite I consider the Ravens if you get what I’m saying.

The bigger issue and it occurs all the time in key moments on both sides of the ball is you just can’t suffer the constant colossal breakdowns and letdowns this team does and expect to hoist the trophy at the very end. Not nowadays; there’s far too much parity for missed tackles, muffed punts, gratuitous penalties (bogus or not) and silly wobbling fun ball interceptions.

For example; sure, the Cowboys basically stopped the Giants dead in the 2nd half of that playoff loss. But to me, the slapdick fashion in which they gifted the Giants 2 TD’s in the first half of that game was still unacceptable. First, there was perhaps the most pathetic display of tackling ever in the NFL playoffs by Ellis and Roy Willy on Amani Toomer’s jog to the end zone. Then they allowed Little Eli Manning to march the length of the field in 45 seconds. Again, they targeted a little geek in Jacques-ass Reeves but where were Ware or Ellis to bring the drive to a screeching halt with an impact sack?

There’s always enough blame to go around with this team.

by MadMick on Aug 20, 2009 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given Emmit won, Michaels going to be really pissed if he doesn't win

But then he was always a master of good body position (and pushing off).

"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson

by BoyfromOz on Aug 18, 2009 6:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

White men don't dance

At least straight ones.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 18, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a pity Irvin only cares about being some big celebrity.

I thought on 4th and long he showed some pretty good coaching skills and I could see him having a very positive impact on our wr corps.

by cypher on Aug 18, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he does a lot more behind the scenes...

..than we actually hear about.

Superbowl, or BUST.

by .FRoST.USAF on Aug 18, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you really think he wants a major paycut to go along with 10x the work to toil in obscurity.

When is the last time you seen a high maintinance, high profile HOFer have any success as a coach.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note to self: Don't mess with DoomsdayD75

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is celebrity about Mike.

Lots of HOFers have coached and Ditka has won a SB but those guys Blue Collar type. irvin has blue collar work ethic but he is Primma Donna WR after that.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 18, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

technically

no success yet … he still thinks about Alex Smith as a QB

by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Doesn’t he know you can’t be a celebrity and still win Super Bowls and go to the Hall of Fame??

I think probably he makes a lot more money this way.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching is a grind and the loses stay with way more than the wins.

Name a celebrity coach. Spurrior was and you see how well he did. There are only celebrity excoaches.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 18, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parcells

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 18, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was a SB winner first and the media to him was a tool while he was coaching.

There was nothing Primma donna about his past. He worked his ass toiling inobscurity learning the ways of coaching. Again, do you see Irvin doing that. You have to put your time and learn your craft.
How many great coaches got their experience on a make believe TV show.
Irvin isnt going be a coach anymore than a Lombardi trophy is going to fly out of my ass.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 18, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deion has his

high profile ‘prime time camp’ and his broadcasting to keep him rolling

by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright I lied.

Coaching is a grind and the losses stay with you way more than the wins do.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 18, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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