The Cowboys Starters: Oakland Game in Detail
First unit offense
When the Cowboys offense stumbled on the first drive, it came down to a series of missed blocks. On each of the first three plays, three Cowboys regulars just flat-out whiffed. Marc Colombo let Greg Ellis get inside him and the pressure forced Romo to throw early. On a running play to Marion Barber to the left, the line-blocking wasn't great so MB3 had to bounce outside. Now, the line was at least engaged with the Raiders defenders, meaning Barber could have gotten outside, but Patrick Crayton didn't even bother to block the corner, who easily stopped the play from progressing. On third down, the Raiders used the same thing that killed us all last year, they overloaded a side and ran a blitz with a stunting linebacker and a secondary player both coming off the edge. Flozell Adams didn't disengage from his block to step back out and pick up one of the blitzers while Barber was lousy in picking up the other blitzer. That's how you kill a series, a few guys whiffing on blocks.
For the good news, keep going below the fold...
Now the good news, on the second series they got it right, and boy did they ever. After a roll-out pass to Martellus Bennett, the Cowboys ran one of their core run plays, a counter with Leonard Davis pulling. With Bigg pulling into the hole and getting a block, Jason Witten and Flozell Adams buried their side of the line to the middle and Julius Crosslin busted the outside linebacker. That's how you get a clean running lane for MB3, and on a play the Cowboys run continuously throughout the season. Jason Garrett then called a 2-man pattern, the running back made only a cursory effort of getting to the flats to take a linebacker with him. Only Crayton and Roy Williams were truly out in the pattern and Williams caught the pass along the sideline. Romo had a lot of time in this set.
The offense followed up with an off-tackle run to Felix Jones behind a straight-ahead blocking scheme. Flozell threw his man like a rag doll to the outside, Kosier rode his man five yards upfield and Felix had a huge hole in front of him. Extending the run was a Roy Williams block downfield. After a Raider penalty and a nicely executed end-around to Crayton, the Cowboys pulled out a play we all love and scream for each week - the screen pass. The offense showed great patience in waiting for the trap to be set as they let the Raiders line get upfield, and the Raiders linebacker to drop into coverage. Felix was able to run behind an excellent block by Kosier and Ok block from Andre Gurode. After a run, a penalty that nullified a TD (Kosier's one really bad play, his holding was obvious), and another run, the Cowboys hit paydirt. After the line gave Romo all day in the pocket, Witten finally got himself a little room and Romo threw a perfect dart to him.
What's the take-away? When the line and the blocking was like it was in the first series - no chance. When it was like it was on the second drive - taking candy from a baby. Same as it ever was, the offensive line controls so much of the game.
Second take-away; Jason Garrett called a nice mix of plays. A roll-out pass, a 2-man route/max protect pass, a screen pass, and end-around run, a counter run, a couple of straight ahead runs off-tackle and up the middle. That will keep a defense guessing. And when the line is blocking like it was on that series - I dare say the read-headed one looked like genius.
First unit defense
The first unit defense was pretty good, except that got hurt by a pass interference call on Gerald Sensabaugh (how the refs missed the blatant hold on DeMarcus Ware on the same play is beyond me). Alan Ball gave up a pass on the first play because he was playing so far off the guy he never gave himself a chance to break on the slant, at the same time Keith Brooking didn't get a deep drop in his zone coverage even though no one was threatening his zone underneath. Igor Olshansky did a nice job of totally standing up his blocker to clog up a run and shut it down. Orlando Scandrick and Ken Hamlin had tight double-coverage deep to stop a bomb attempt (got to catch that ball Hamlin). After the Raiders got the pass interference to move into the redzone, the Cowboys did a nice job of containing the Raiders offense and holding them to a FG. Jay Ratliff forced a holding call on the Raiders when he penetrated on a run play near the goal line. Anthony Spencer made a sure tackle on the FB after a swing pass and the secondary gave up a pass but short of the endzone. So they actually played very well except for the pass interference call.
The second go around they we're still formidable. Timing a blitz is everything in this league. On the first play, Bradie James and Keith Brooking ran a crossing stunt and both blitzed with Brooking shooting through untouched for the sack. The timing of their blitz was impeccable. Sometimes, you just get caught in the wrong defense as the Cowboys did on the next play. The Raiders ran off-tackle on what was expected to be a pass. The Cowboys had four down linemen and Spencer looped to the inside to rush the passer. Ratliff was supposed to go outside but he was engaged at the line and didn't get over. So with the defensive end looped to the middle and the defensive tackle stuck inside because of blocking, you can imagine the size of the whole for the Raiders on that side. Bradie James also made his initial run to the wrong side, leaving no one at home. Still, they had them at third and long after the run because the Raiders had lost so much yardage on Brooking's sack. They blitzed a linebacker on the third-down play but he rush was picked up and the Raiders beat Courtney Brown for a first down.
Remember above when I talked about the timing of a blitz? The Cowboys tried to blitz Brooking and James again (minus the crossing stunt) on first down but the Raiders were going on a long count. The linebackers showed the blitz way too soon and the Raiders picked it up easily. To compound the problem, with no middle linebackers to worry about and with the middle of the line opening up a truck-sized hole, JaMarcus Russell simply tucked the ball, faked out Anthony Spencer and picked up a huge gain. All because the Cowboys linebackers showed the blitz too early. The Raiders tried to go deep after that, but again Scandrick and Hamlin had tight double-coverage. Jay Ratliff then bull-rushed his guy back to the QB and he deflected a pass that he almost intercepted. Single blocking the Rat rarely works. The Raiders tried a screen and actually had two lineman out in front, but Sensabugh and Scandrick both did a great job of avoiding a block and converged to stop it and force a punt.
We should be pretty happy with that performance.
Overall, the first unit showed some promising signs in their limited play. The second drive by the offense was a thing of beauty and the offensive line was really clicking on that series.
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Thanks for the rundown, Grizz
Feels good to have the first preseason game to talk about. Hope the first teams perform as well against the Titans.
Can't wait for the second game... I want to see our second units improve on last week
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
iI just read a post that said Farve signed a contrac with the Vikes and checked with ESPN.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
Yep
and apparently he’s in pads and on the practice field already.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Well I thought he would be back but I was thinking Oct.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
This one actually surprised me...
The guy has ALL off-season to make up his mind, has obvious conflict of interest issues going to the Vikings from the Pack (traitor!!!), and jumps in NOW?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
at first I didn't think he was media hungry
but now after Vick made his comeback and its REALLY late to jump to a RIVAL team …. wtf
He got to skip training camp
Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.
The problem will be when his shoulder/arm/body give out in November because he didn’t put in any time doing conditioning in the offseason the way he did prior to 2007.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
+1
I told some people this a month ago when he decided to stay retired. I didn’t think for a second that he was going to be satisfied mowing his lawn in Mississippi this football season, but why not hold out during training camp?
The dude knows their style offense like the back of his hand and will have no problem being a significant step up from Tavaris Jackson.
Go Favre! Hopefully NFC Championship is Dallas vs. Minnesota this year :)
Between Vick and Favre...
the Cowboys are going to have to get off to an 8-0 start to get any press. This, my friends, is an excellent thing.
by greatwhitenorth on Aug 18, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
Dude!
I said the exact same thing almost to my wife earlier.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 18, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Eagles must be ready to puke
if they were to announce Vick signing after Farve, people wouldnt have paid that much attention
I think Favre did that intentionally.
I think he was waiting for Vick to sign to maximize his own publicity. If it had gone the other way around, Vick would have stolen some of his thunder.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
no, Favre just didn't want to go through camp
The dude just wants to play on game days and at his age I can’t blame him.
In Romo we Trust
I think that's it, too.
Which is why this whole circus was ridiculous. Pretty much everyone knew he wasn’t coming back until training camp was about over, just like pretty much everyone knew he was coming back.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
And there may some truth to the arm healing angle
why show up at camp if the arm isn’t quite ready for the throwing load? He already knows the offense.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
The Vikings QB's must really suck
To go through what they did to sign up a 40 yr old coming off arm surgery.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 18, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions
Tarvaris Jackson
is no better than Drew Henson
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill
He actually isn't horrible...
but thats all he is… just not horrible.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 19, 2009 5:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Quick question
totally off topic ….. would like another opinion ….
my wife’s going to get me a jersey for our anniversary … who should I get?
Barber, Ware, or Witten?
Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.
2 of them will be HoFamers
So you’ve got to go with Witten or Ware
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 18, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Grizz... an excellent, well-thought-out article ... and we hijack the comments!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
my bad!
I made a fanpost, so we can leave this thread for Grizz’s excellent write up.
Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.
too late, mi amigo... the damage is done ... as evidenced by this comment that is going nowhere
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Betcha DalaiLuke
could get you the whole team, plus the Fourth and Long guy, for like $8 in Thailand.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Heh heh
(And he doesn’t mean another shirt, he means the actual 4th and Long guy.)
That's how they roll in Thailand...
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
My preferences in order would be
(1) Witten (2) Ware (3) Barber
But you can’t go wrong with that group.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I'm thinking Felix, too
I just hope he doesn’t switch numbers. I forget who it was, but someone mentioned that his college number (25) might become available (if Pat Watkins doesn’t make the team).
Definitely a thought…I’m waiting until the final 53 man roster is made before I buy the F. Jones #28…just have to have it before the Nov. 8th game in PHILLY!
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Two thoughts
1. The 28 / F. Jones could become a bit of a collectors item if he goes on to have a HOF career with 25 … though you’d look funny this year if he switched in August
2. As much as I like my little write-in vote (if only to get the immeasurable notice of the dunk himself) … I’m also in agreement with one of the fan-post comments = Jones is a bit of a common name.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
go here
http://www.jersey101.com/en/products.asp?typeid=177
and you can get all 3 for less than the price of 1. They are knock offs, but really, really nice knock offs. I have 2 and have compared them to the real $220 ones and it’s hard to find a difference. Great quality.
To access the website
you have to knock on the back of the truck, some guy will look arround and then take you past the “authentic” Gucci and Coach purses to the basement where his grandmother is sewing the jersies. They look great, but part of the discount is you’ll get the occasional “94 Where” jersey…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
No offense
that’s just how every woman I know buys purses in NY City…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
it's not my business
So I can’t take offense. I’m just reporting that the quality of the jerseys I’ve received have been top notch.
Is that a Mike Jefferson jersey?
Talk about a good investment!
At least we know that whoever runs the site doesn’t pay much attention to the roster…
…they might think Dorsett and Staubach are current players.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Carpenter and Zach Thomas on page 3
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
As long as it doesn't say 95 South, New Jersey
Take the wrong exit, and all you see are sketchy DUNK-trucks
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Don't get personal...
Someone has to live there.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I luv ... it's still home to me ... it's also why I live in Thailand
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
can you get
Whoever you want? I would like a scandrick or ratliff jersey.
by TONYINCC on Aug 18, 2009 4:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
just got a game issued scandrick
from Steiner on an auction for $110. I
Felt like a school girl at a backstreet boys concert
by missingthe90s on Aug 18, 2009 8:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
wow, thats SWEET
I would be to but more like 98¤ due to jessica and nick and all that mess. Lol
by TONYINCC on Aug 18, 2009 11:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh yeah, I forgot about Rat
That’d be a good pick.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I'm happy with my D-Ware jersey
My opinion is that you want to get a guy who is going to be a dominant Cowboy for as long as possible. I love MBIII, but I’d put the over/under on his remaining time in Dallas at 2.5 years (playing style, injuries, contract, emergence of Felix and/or Choice, all working against his longevity). Witten’s a stud and certainly headed for the Hall and the Ring of Honor, so you can’t go wrong there. But D-Ware has a great shot at re-writing the record books for sacks. Which do you like more, offense or defense? If you think Jerry will soon lock up Ware contract-wise (and he’d be a fool not to), I’d go with Ware
by greatwhitenorth on Aug 18, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get Barber
Even with his contract, you never know with RBs— they can be gone in 2-3 years, particularly one like MB3.
I like getting guys who I have a particular enthusiasm for but that aren’t necessarily the #1 selling jerseys. Everyone’s gonna have a Ware or a Romo jersey, after all. I’ve had a Newman since he was drafted and am very happy with that decision.
A young guy like Scandrick, Felix, or Jenkins might be cool, or maybe even Bennett, although it’s tough to know what his future holds, given that he’s behind Witten. Of the three you listed, I guess I’d go with Witten.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
The Sensabaugh PI was questionable
although at full speed I can understand why they saw it that way. In slo-mo Sensabaugh actually got his head around and tried to make a play. But I saw the same thing you did, the
blatant hold on DeMarcus Ware on the same play
How do you miss a Ware XL jersey getting stretched to Bigg Davis XXXXXXXXL size that close to the QB and not get a call?
Guess it’s pre-season for officials too…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
maybe refs are trying to make the game more exciting?
be harder on defensive players?
nah they just missed it … they were too busy watching the big play
The first thing that came to mind when I read about Ellis beating Columbo to the inside...
Is this a weakness that Ellis knew of? Has he exposed our most consistent lineman?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
It's my contention that whole line
is good but inconsistent. I think he caught Marc napping for a minute.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
The more I think about the 2-tight-end set, the more I like it...
Romo in a max-protect, with each TE capable of breaking off as an outlet. Now that’s got a nice ring to it!
As for the the inconsistent quality of this line, you gotta think they’re capable of repeating 2007, which wasn’t perfect but consistent enough?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
thats
why I think Romo has a better year this year …. I think the 2 TE set will give him so many options, especially with Barber/Jones coming out of the backfield. Not just hike, look for TO, look for TO ….
Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.
He was having a great year last year.
Romo was having a stellar year last year prior to December, just like 2006 and 2007. I don’t know his exact number, but his average QB rating last year going into December was 102.5, which is awesome. He might do a little better than that, like in 2007 he had an average 108.1 rating going into December, and in 2006, he was at 112.2, but until December, he was having a really good year last year.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
It’s not that they were bad (except last season, and they were bad). It’s just that one play Colombo screws up, then Flo, then Andre, then Bigg… As Grizz said, it can kill a drive like that.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
They were just as good last year as they were the year before.
They had about the same sacks per game when Romo was playing as they did the year before and had about the same yards per carry in the run game as they did the year before.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree with that.
The o-line was a sieve the last few games of last year.
by houseofprime on Aug 19, 2009 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It's easy to check.
While I don’t have the capability to check every pass play with a stopwatch as someone suggested, I can look at the stats that are available. Since Dallas doesn’t really call QB runs, those should be considered broken pass plays in my opinion, since Romo had to pull the ball down and run with it. Here are the stats for Romo only.
2007 – 16 games, 520 pass attempts, 24 sacks, 31 carries, about 36 called passes per game, a sack or QB run per every 10.5 pass plays.
2008 – 13 games, 450 pass attempts, 20 sacks, 28 carries, about 38 called passes per game, a sack or QB run per every 10.4 pass plays.
Last 4 games of 2007 – 138 pass attempts, 8 sacks, 9 carries, about 39 called passes per game (Romo only played part of WAS game), a sack or QB run every 9.1 pass plays.
Last 4 games of 2008 – 150 pass attempts, 12 sacks, 9 carries, about 43 called passes per game, a sack or QB run every 8.1 pass plays.
So they were worse in the last 4 games of 2008 compared to earlier in the year and the last 4 games of 2007. Except, here’s the thing, the team did best when the line was at it’s worst. In the Giants game, they allowed 4 sacks and 4 QB runs in 38 pass plays, or a sack or QB run every 4.75 pass plays. Romo had a 113.7 rating, and they won. You remove that game, and they only had a sack or QB run every 11 pass plays in the other 3 December games, all losses, all games where Romo’s rating was below 67.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't believe that's correct on Yards Per Carry
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
It's easy to check.
2008 – 401 rushes, 1,723 yards, 4.3 ypc. Remove QB runs, and it’s 371 rushes, 1,683 yards, 4.5 ypc.
2007 – 419 rushes, 1,746 yards, 4.2 ypc. Remove QB runs, and it’s 383 rushes, 1,622 yards, 4.2 ypc.
So they were actually superior in 2008.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
The much disputed December games:
Yards per carry per game in December (with QB carries/without QB carries):
Week 14 – 3.7/3.6 – Tashard Choice had 23 for 88, 3.8 ypc, but TO and Cricket combined for 2 carries for 1 yard, dropping the average. Romo had 1 for 6.
Week 15 – 4.8/5.5 – Choice 9 for 91, Barber 8 for 2, Romo 4 for 7
Week 16 – 4.4/4.7 – Choice 17 for 90, Barber 2 for 0, Romo 2 for 2
Week 17 – 4.6/4.5 – Choice 13 for 56, Barber 3 for 13, Romo 2 for 11, Owens 1 for 7.
I think the biggest running game failure last year was not acquiring/preparing another running back when Felix was hurt, and then when Barber was hurt. They added to that by continuing to run Barber even though he was hurt and ineffective, limiting Choices carries although he was highly effective, and again, not having another back or 2 on the squad to spell Choice. Oh, and throwing constantly in the last 4 games of the season.
Since this team doesn’t call QB runs, I consider those to be broken pass plays, adding in QB runs and sacks, Dallas called 44 passing plays per game over the last 4, and 19.5 running plays per game. As you can see, the running game wasn’t ineffective, they just chose not to run.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Should help Flo and Columbo too
Even if Witten and Bennett are not staying back to protect, a bump or push on an outside rusher (as they start their patterns) should really take the outside speed rush out of the equation. This only works when lined up near the tackle rather than in the slot, but that will be a common formation.
by doomsdayreturns on Aug 18, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Good article, Grizz
One of my questions for the offense is whether they continue to be a quick-strike machine. Without the stats in front of me, my impression of the Romo-led offenses is that when it’s on, it’s bing-bang-boom five 15+ yard plays and a TD, all in 3 minutes or less. Which is great, when it’s on. But when the offense isn’t clicking, it’s not able to bear down and grind out the first downs. Again, I love the quick scores, but what I’m hearing from the prognasticators is that this year the offense is supposed to help out the defense by controlling the clock a bit more—and that’s not going to happen without more consistency, particularly from the O-line.
by greatwhitenorth on Aug 18, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
most definitely
if the offense can be more of a clock hog … that is definitely a strength for the defense
Yep
With the way the starting defense looks, I think the 2TE sets emphasizing ball control will mesh nicely.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This has always been a fascinating discussion
Is fast strike or ball control better? On the one hand, you want your D to rest up and you want their D to wear down. On the other hand, teams deliberately try to force opposing offenses to dink and dunk with the idea that eventually they will crap out or reach third and long and then they can pounce on that because it’s the most predictable situation.
I think that it’s not just RW and Miles who will stretch defense or make big plays. I think you’ll see both Bennett and Witten doing those deep seam routes and of course there is Felix in space…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Ideal
is to be able to strike fast as well as grind it out, and do so at the time and place of your choosing.
I want both, please.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Never thought about it that way
But now that I think of it, I can remember millions of times when the D got tired in the 2nd half and couldnt cover anything.We have to absolutely get that running game going. It would also be great if we would have good back ups for the o-line (like Holland and not extaclty like Procter) to keep them fresh as well.
This also goes with the theory...
Of starting with speed (Felix) to wear them out and then Marion to punish them….the art of killing a deffense……it’s all on the O-line though. We need them healthy and strong (both phisically and mentally)……
As long as you score it doesn't matter how you do it.
Being a quick strike team didn’t really hurt the Rams during their great run. The time to worry about ball control is when you have a lead in the last 4 minutes of the game.
by houseofprime on Aug 19, 2009 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, Grizz
for the play-by-play breakdown. Getting ready for the new season!
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Brett Favre...
Is the biggest a$$ wipe in America. Had enough of that guy and he used to be one of my favorite players back in the days but this is just a plain insult to the rest of the NFL and the Vikings. Whoever made the call at Vikings camp should be thrown out the door. I hope they crash and burn.
I like it
One more story for the MSM to go after and leave the Cowboys out of the spotlight. Jerry might not be thrilled, but our fanbase should be.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point!
I love staying out of the spotlight.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
Not to mention...
The Rangers in a pennant race … and they re-signed Pudge today!
Jerry must be having kittens trying to get the spotlight back… maybe a phantom Pacman sighting?
TANSTAAFL - Lazarus Long
Well Pudge stinks now so I'm not sure how much he will help the Rangers.
by houseofprime on Aug 19, 2009 5:59 AM CDT up reply actions
mascot, steady pressence
his value may be in his World Series win and experience in the playoffs
by AustonianAggie on Aug 19, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
O-Line All the Time
I think we’ve seen how important it is for this offense to be precise.
We don’t have the gamebreaker outside that forces opposing DC’s to gameplan for them.
Precision comes from repetition. I hope Hud, Garrett and the rest of the offensive coaches are really looking for each pass to be in the proper spot for a receiver to catch it, but also where a DB cannot. I hope they demand that the line calls are the proper ones for the situation. I hope they dictate that the blitz pickups are handled in a much more choreographed manner than we saw.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The most imp't unit on the team, the OLine,
they determine everything.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Crap, I’m starting to think we should go ahead and draft some WR’s and just sign mostly FA OLinemen, proven players. Especially with this team’s record drfafting OL.
by Realist Larry on Aug 18, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Free agents 2010
LT: Michael Roos – Titans – All-Pro 08, 26 years
LG: Logan Mankins – Patriots – Pro Bowl 07, 26 years
C: No FA better than Gurode that I see
RG: Chris Snee – Giants – All-Pro 08, 26 years
RT: Jeremy Trueblood – Bucs, 25 years
With the Ware contract coming up, I’m not sure we’ll have the money/cap space to sign any of these.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 19, 2009 3:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the point is moot
because those teams aren’t going to let those guys get away.
by houseofprime on Aug 19, 2009 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions
True dat
So where are all those
FA OLinemen, proven playersmiraculously going to appear from?
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 19, 2009 5:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Great lineman in their prime usually don't make it to free agency.
Thats why we better start finding good O-linemen in the draft. Its kind of amazing how bad we have been at drafting linemen.
by houseofprime on Aug 19, 2009 5:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Just a thought
Can’t we get Jeremy Trueblood just because he’s got a really tough last name? I would love that jersey.
by Dansonofdirm on Aug 19, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Parcells was right about the intelligence level of this team.
I really hope that is starting to get fixed. I’m getting sick of seeing the same blitz kill this team over and over.
by houseofprime on Aug 19, 2009 5:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I've thought about too
they really do seem to have a lot brain cramps…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
The worst part about this team.
Is that no matter how great they start, it really all comes down to what happens in December. Whether you believe it is Romo, the Defense, the OL, the coaching, or whoever, this team is a juggernaut prior to December when Romo is in the line up. I’m thinking even with Kitna in the line up they would be, as long as he just doesn’t turn the ball over (which may be asking a lot from him).
With Romo as a starter, they are 22-4 prior to December, and 5-10 after December 1, including playoffs. 3 of their 4 losses pre-December were by less than 7 points, and 7 of their 10 losses after December have been by 7 or more. They lost the 2 playoff games by a combined 5 points, so they are getting beat the worst in the last 4 or 5 games of the regular season (depending on where December falls on the schedule).
Whatever needs to change for this team needs to change in December. I see this team at anywhere from 7-4 to 10-1 going into December this year, barring injury to Romo. So they will probably need between 1 and 3 wins in December and January to make the playoffs.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:47 AM CDT reply actions
They really do need to roll in December
it’s like any sports team – the teams that win are the ones that start (or re-start) clicking on all cylinders late in the season. I really thought the Eagles had that going last season but I guess the Cards did too. Dallas can’t afford to stumble into the playofs if they make it that far next year.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Did anyone notice if Spencer was a factor?
I didn’t really notice him except the tackle that Grizz mentioned and the twist on the long run that was also mentioned. I wondered if he was getting a push, requiring double teams, solid in coverage, etc.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:49 AM CDT reply actions
Not to change the subject.....
Did you see that the Bucs starting safety was suspended for the first 4 games of the season? I, like most others I believe, feel that in order to prove ourselves we should play against the opposing teams best, however, an advantage is an advantage regardless of where it comes from. Hopefully we can now exploit this weakness come opening Sunday!
I don't really care about proving anything... just give me the win!
He’s gonna miss our game? EXCELLENT NEWS ;)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
that game worries me
first we know we are the better team and we are acting like we already won the game. second we have no idea what the Bucs are gonna run, there is no film on them, their roster is changed. I hope they put that rookie QB in the game so they shoot themselves in the leg. If for some strange reason we are to loose that game it would put so much pressure on the team we might be looking at 0 and 2
No need to worry until December.
Trust me, as long as Romo is healthy, Dallas will win most of their games before December. They’re 22-4 with him as a starter. Then we can worry.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the only people acting like we have already won are guys on the message board
I have seen nothing like that from the actual players or coaches. I’m not too worried.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
+1
I’m 90% sure Dallas wins their opener. No problem with fans over confidence, just as long as the team plays like it’s the SB.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they'll be all business, and you'll see a massive dose of MBIII to finish it off
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Also TB's very good punter is out
They had to sign a replacement.
Hey, every little bit helps.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That isn't necessarily even little...
Hmmmm… trying to put the most optimistic spin I can, within reason…
If TB’s punting unit suffers, and the Cowboys are able to break one, that could give our return guy, and the whole special teams unit, the right momentum to start the year.
(a moment of silence for the days of Deion)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Now Tilib (?) there 1st round CB pick from last year got arrested for battery and resisting arrest without violence
he was on probation for testing positive for pot at the rookie symposium….you know he will be suspended for some games.
So I temporarily ended my boycott on BSPN this morning
and discovered it was ESPFavre. Doing what they do, burning the holy crap out of a single topic, picking the Vikes to go to the Super Bowl. I was there about 2 fricken minutes, and remembered why I don’t watch them anymore. LOL. You know, I really don’t miss that hack of a channel. Of course, having 300 channels helps.
I don't believe in team motivation. I believe in getting a team prepared so it knows it will have the necessary confidence when it steps on a field and be prepared to play a good game.
Tom Landry
This ESPN article offers some balance to the "Favre is wonderful"
From Gene Wojciechowski, ESPN.com
Monday night. Oct. 5. A date that will live in football infamy…
That’s the night the Green Bay Packers play the Minnesota Vikings at the hearing-loss capital of the world — the Metrodome. That’s the night Brett Favre commits cheesehead treason.
I feel bad for Packer fans that loved him… it would be like Staubach going to the Redskins!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Go wash you mouth out with soap!
Not even in jest…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Now they've trotted out the anti-Favre talking heads
And so ends my test to see if I wanted to allow them back into my home.
I don't believe in team motivation. I believe in getting a team prepared so it knows it will have the necessary confidence when it steps on a field and be prepared to play a good game.
Tom Landry
That's why I can't watch either
it’s seriously like watching E! only they (mostly) cover “sports personalities” instead of bubble-headed bulemic bimbos.
What I love is how they make a Mount Everest out of an ant pile and then blame it all on the player for “wanting the attention” and being a "distraction.’
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I know this is a bit off topic
but did anybody else know that Joe D took pain killers during half time of the Raiders game so he could continue to coach? That guy is inspiring.
FJI10XBTBW
Nice one
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think he's going to motivate some players this seson
And he doesn’t, it’ll be their fault, not his.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Looking forward to the season, well need some back-ups to step-up at some point.
I know some of the older players get time off practice, esp. on 2 a days, but now all our O-line are older players- I’m not saying it has anything to do with late season collapses, but I have to wonder-I ’m of the belief that other teams are just playing better than we are at that time. We will need guys who can provide solid relief for the starters through out the year.
I have no real expectations for this season, and think we could be anywhere from last in our conference to 1st. We’ll just have to see how it plays out.
Hope Brandon Williams shows up, because despite Butlers speed in practice he would be a definate liability in the run game and even the passing game, were starting tackles could easily handle him, speed or no speed. ( we are not talking about a guy even close to the speed of Ware or the exp. of Ellis ) Wasn’t Williams the guy that had the 4.8 time? Could have been a bad day at the track, but who knows. I think the Cowboys were looking for miracles in the 4th round with these guys; Butler may look like something in 2 or 3 years of off season strength work, that would be about contract time, but again who knows. If a team was seriously looking for some rookie to provide any real relief at OLB/DE would they wait till the 4th round?
The Guard/Center, OLB, NT back up positions look the the scariest to me. Eilis’s spot may get filled by Spencer, but whop steps – up there? Come on Williams! Show something unexpected. The coaches just have to scratching there heads and scared to death at what is behind Gurode/Davis and Kosair. People think Holland filled in nicely for the one game he played and maybe he did, but he sure looked slow against back-ups in Oakland. Idk, maybe someone can take a closer look.
Oh well, its way early and lots of fears and hopes, and absolutely no expectations of greatness for this team at this time. I won’t be disappointed, but I may be presently surprised.
Sorry about the flight of ideas post.
I love Scandrick's play vs the deep ball
I’m really confident in him in general, but he’s a low 4.3 guy, and I love the fact that it’s pretty damn tough to beat him deep and that’s all they tried to do with DHB. Scandrick was with him step for step every time, and I really think things like that will improve our D.
If Hamlin can’t make those picks over the top, he just needs to haul off and lay into the WR, drill him in his chest and make him think twice about the deep route.
by LonghornsLegend on Aug 21, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions

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