The VRR: Cowboys Breaking Camp
Time marches on and that's a good thing in this case. Scratch another date off your calendar, today is the last day of the 2009 Dallas Cowboys Training Camp. Think back to those dark days after the loss to the Eagles and remember how far away training camp felt. Feels nice to pass another major milestone on the path to the regular season. Only one biggie to go, the end of preseason - with sub-milestones of roster cuts in between. It's getting so close.
So in honor of another Cowboys training camp about to be in the books, let's go meta and talk about training camp as a whole. We have JFE to thank for the Camp Cupcake moniker hung on the era of Wade Phillips. Now, Gil LeBreton tries to make amends by claiming the press crossed the line and went personal on Wade. Wade agrees.
"The thing that bothers me," Phillips said, "is people are making it more personal.
"If they say, 'Hey, we don’t think you’re coaching well enough,’ that’s fine. But when people start trying to demean you or call you names ...
"I’m a turn-the-other-cheek person. But it’s disappointing. In the world of comedy, they make fun of people and do all those things. It seems people have turned to that rather than just reporting. Maybe they think they’re comics. I don’t know."
More below...
Ouch. Nice retort, Wade. I've always thought the Camp Cupcake stuff was wrong, not in tone, but in validity. It was more like Camp Circus, and you can thank Jerry Jones for that, not wade Phillips. This year, that stuff has all gone away. Camp had a very different feel this year. They practiced more, but they also had a different attitude, it felt very focused and all about football. Very business-like.
"It was a tough camp. I want everyone to know that," [Bradie] James said. "We had a whole bunch of practices. This camp has been like two of the other camps put together, you know what I mean? I haven’t heard anyone call this one cupcake. We pretty much put a lot of work in this. Now we are ready to come together and see how it pays off."
But even a serious camp needs a joker every once in a while. It looks like Roy Williams is that guy. From his jersey-number switching scheme to his kagaroo court for the receivers, Roy is the guy trying to keep it somewhat loose. Plus, Roy is becoming the master of the one-liner. Roy describes his practice after switching numbers with Mike Jefferson, donning a very familiar looking #81:
"Once I got 81 on, I got about 50 balls today," Williams joked.
Oh, and on David Buehler beating DeAngelo Smith in a 50-yard sprint:
"He’s on steroids," wide receiver Roy Williams joked.

Some fun reading on how we are going to use all three running backs, including quotes from Jason Garrett, Skip Peete, and even the mysterious MB3. The Barbarian actually put together four sentences in response to a question about how he defines his role.
"I don't look at that, man," Barber said. "We've got guys who can make plays running the ball. Whoever is in, treat it like it's your last carry. Take it that way and you can't lose."
You got to love that kid. Never talks to the press, and when he does, he has a strict no BS policy.

Eatman talks to Keith Brooking, and to Wade Phillips about Keith Brooking.
"He still runs well and he's big, fast and plays in a football position all the time," [Wade] Phillips said. "He's ready to break on the ball, he's ready to make a tackle and he's got good timing on blitzing. I see the same guy. "Obviously, he's older and he's probably not as fast as he once was, but he's still fast. He's not slow and you can see he moves well."

Matt Mosley predicts a few thing for the upcoming season. One of them:
The Cowboys could end up running plays out of a two-tight end formation 60 percent of the time -- or maybe more.

Brandon Williams wants to play Friday.
Rookie linebacker Brandon Williams (strained shoulder) practiced Tuesday afternoon for the first time in nearly a week and said he expects to play Friday against Tennessee.
Let's hope he plays. We need to see him and Stephen Hodge in action. Last week, we were really short at linebacker and these two guys need to show what they can do. Can't wait until Friday!
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First! sounds like great news all around. And beuhuler beating D smith is just embarassing. but pretty damn cool.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Agree
but he’s not just any kicker, which helps take a little of the embarrassment off. Still, you better start working on that speed there Mr. Smith, sheesh!
He was a safety at USC guys
Smith was a safety at Cincinati
by AustonianAggie on Aug 19, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, we've got the fastest kicker in the league...
You won’t find any other kickers running a 4.59
In Smith’s defense, he had just finished practice and I doubt the kickers are as fatigued after a workout as the safetys are.
Garrett needs to get a clue!
Really?? Not Janikowski??
You might want to check that out. Dude is a ripped, football-playing machine.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
we've drafted a monster LOL Go Buehler Go,
btw does anybody know if how far can Buehler throw the ball?
He can throw it over a mountain
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
With his left hand
Nobody knows how far he can throw a ball with his right, as no-one has ever invented a measurement system with large enough numbers.
FJI10XBTBW
by aussie_cowboy on Aug 19, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to see him run down a potential kickoff TD return ... and knock the ball loose!
… only when we’re up 20 in the 4th, of course
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
not all kickers are made equal
Buehler ran a more than respectable 4.6 40(….and put up 26 reps….) when u consider the difference between someone running a 4.6 and someone running a 4.4 is only two tenths of a second, if buehler caught a corner or safety at the end of a practice when fatigue has set in he could easily beat them. Its not like buehler puts in as much running as those guys…
by da universe's team on Aug 19, 2009 11:03 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
he out-benches olinemen and outruns DBs
guy is a beast… fast, strong, fearless… and he’s a kicker! lol
I have to admit,
when they drafted a kicker I just set on the floor stunned. I felt all was hopeless if the cowboys were so stupid to draft a kicker with Folk on the roster.
Now I think it was the best move in the draft!
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 19, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
he definately can play in any of those punt units
he looks to be a decent tackler too, dunno if he would ever crack the O/D units but he can definitely earn his keep.
Glad to have him.
I felt exactly the same way
but as I’ve admitted before, I thought drafting Folk and Bennett was nutty too. This is why I don’t coach or scout in the NFL and they do..
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Sounds like the shot gun approach to the draft was mostly miss!
Think about it, how many of these guys would get any farther than the practice squad on any other team or even this team if we would have kept T.O., Ellis..
I know we didn’t pick until the 3rd round, so what do I expect. Point is it really doesn’t matter what I expected; it matters what we put on the field. I’m not real worried about WR, I think we have enough weapons. Not trading up to grab the player we wanted G/C has left the same weak back ups as last year. taking a prospect with our 1st picks in the 3rd round may help someday, but not this year. Waiting till the 4th to fill a need olb/de, I think has resulted in lesser talent at the position than may have been available earlier in the draft, some one will see time at this position during the season.
Ya, I know we had holes to fill and I’m not crying over spilled milk, but one has to wonder about this approach. Camp is at an end and 1 preseason game in the books way to early to tell how the season will go, or if we have any good surprise players from the draft; so far it doesn’t look like we got a bulls-eye on every pick, but at least they hit the side of the barn.
This is premature. They got 3 years
1st picks of the draft often wait on the bench. Terry Bradshaw rode pine for 4 years. Give these guys a chance
by AustonianAggie on Aug 19, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
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by silverblue5 on Aug 19, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially when you draft them
this low. They typically have a little more to learn coming from smaller programs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Not saying they won't someday be something
just saying no real hlp this year. We did lose some players who played substantial quality minutes, yet while some of those snaps may be covered by free agent aquistions and Spencer/Carpenter the quality of relief/backup players may be some what below last year and not just on the O-line; But one can be suprised or even wrong about a thing.
sry no spell check , internet problems had to use AOL
I'd say...
At least wait until the first month of the season to determine who will help us this year. Sometimes it takes a month or two for the light to go on. Training camp and preseason are included in that. Young kids who are new to the NFL can make dramatic leaps in a short time. They have the physical tools but the mental part can be daunting at first. Just watching the improvement of Jason Williams from the first half to the second on Thursday was encouraging. At the start, he was running around like a chicken with his head cut off. Later in the game, he was taking good angles, getting to his spots and making some tackles. I know quite a few of these guys will be playing special teams come September, if they can improve that area, they will be helping the Boys in a big way. Patience.
by Dave Halprin on Aug 19, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think Watkins still makes the squad?
Even with all of the draft picks, it seemed like Watkins was the best ST player, at least in the limited action that I saw.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Coming into camp I didn't think he would
But if they have to use Alan Ball as the 4th corner, that opens it up now. You got Hamlin and Sensei for sure. I feel sure they’ll keep Hamlin2, after him, DeAngelo Smith hasn’t impressed much yet, and they’ve been playing Courtney Brown exclusively at corner this camp. So Watkins stands a chance right now, but I think Smith still has time to impress.
For a guess, they go with Sensei, Ham 1&2, and Alan Ball is the primary backup at FS even though he’ll be listed as a corner and the fourth corner. That way, they can keep Smith as the fourth safety, but Ball would be the first call in case of injury. How’s that work for ya’ll?
by Dave Halprin on Aug 19, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
But...
ask me after Friday’s game, and I might have a totally different answer. It all depends on how well these backups perform over the next three preseason games.
by Dave Halprin on Aug 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I Hope Not
I hate Watkins – pencil neck geek who is a terrible defensive back and his special team play is less than average.
"pencil neck geek"
That’s poor dude. I don’t think Watkins is very good, but calling someone a geek or pencil necked is borderline personal. Not very classy.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 19, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Special Teams, yes of coarse you are right.
like I said before I’m not crying, just kind of whining a lttle- just the normal preseason fears
I met a guy yesterday named Joe Jhonson
he was a practice squad guy who was on the Bengals roster back when Bradshaw took over the Steelers,
He knew Ed To Tall Jones, and Franco Harris, he was friends with some really cool people. I did work with PAL years ago with abused kids and Joe is working with kids now teaching football. anyway, he told me Bradshaw was never going to see the field for the Steelers but the guy who was starting started using coke. The steelers found out and started Bradshaw. He said his friend was the starter and if not for the coke no one would know who Bradshaw was.
He’s a steelers fan oddly enough he’s going to watch some games with me this year and give me some pointers on guys like Free, I cant wait.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 19, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That guy was Joe Gilliam
He was one of the first really good black qbs to play in the NFL. I remember that well.
In Romo we Trust
Yeah
his nickname was “Jeffeson Street” Joe Gilliam. The man had an absolute rocket for an arm. One of the biggest wastes of talent in sports history.
Cool.
That’s awesome to have an ex-player to watch the game with and give you some real insight.
I don’t think it happened quite the way he remembered with Bradshaw, but isn’t that true for all of us? If he’s talking about Joe Gilliam, here’s a good article about him: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_5_99/ai_69475126/
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
As I mentioned before
I know Artrell Hawkins who is the older brother of Andrew Hawkins form the 4th and Long show. During the last few years in the league he was the starting FS for the Pats, I think 2006 and 2007 seasons.
The Pats played the Chargers a few times during that time so I asked him during the off season when he was in town what it was like tackling a guy like L.T. and his response was, “I didn’t.”
Classic.
In Romo we Trust
im starting to like this group..
More and more…a little fun mixed with a lot of work…hmmm.
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Aug 19, 2009 11:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
David Buehler = Chuck Norris = Bill Braskie
To those of you who like 90’s SNL.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions
Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups
he pushes the earth down
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill
Its sad
Chuck Norris is 157 years old and can kick all our asses. I don’t know if that depresses me or gives me hope for when I’m older.
by Waterloo Joe on Aug 19, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Ask badknees
how it felt back when he was 157…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
LMAO
So glad I was not drinking anything when I read that.
Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.
by APerfectStar on Aug 19, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember a young Chuck Norris being able to kick a guy 3 times in the face in 1 sec
you had to count them in slow-mo replay
Three kicks?
Buehler could have finished him with just one kick.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
And
woulda knocked the guy six yards into the end zone for a touchback.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Although that is still impressive...
I do think that it should be mentioned more that Smith had been praciticing and actually probably a bit worn down before he raced.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard
some guy who named himself after “Young Miss” magazine went on a Cowboys’ blog site and posted nonsense…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
You just dunked yourself in some mud
ym loved it! I hope you didn’t?
Woodson is a Hall of Famer!
by I'm a Cowboy Babe on Aug 19, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Been a while.
Still the same crap though.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Why are you on the site...
If you aren’t a Cowboys fan?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 19, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Two things I love
Oh, and on David Buehler beating DeAngelo Smith in a 50-yard sprint:
The Cowboys could end up running plays out of a two-tight end formation 60 percent of the time — or maybe more
FJI10XBTBW
Bennett seemed such a strange 2nd round choice at the time...
Now he’s proving not only to be valuable to our passing attack, but also supplementing our blocking schemes… NICE!!!
Two tight-end sets make it very difficult to blitz. If you buy enough time, he’s gonna make you pay. Roy’s not a small target and Crayton, Hurd and Co. know how to get open. This could turn into the “next wave” of copy-cat discussion. Seven legitimate blockers lining up regularly will give a defense fits.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I was one of the few fans who applauded this pick
after the draft because I knew he had immense talent and we needed a second TE after trading Fasano.
In Romo we Trust
I definitely thought WTF!?!?!? when Dallas drafted him
I thought why waste such a high pick on a guy who will never see the field. I am happy to be wrong on that one
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

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