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The VRR: Cowboys Player News and Video Board Controversy Recap

So one major bummer did come out of Friday's game against the Titans. Rookie OLB Brandon Williams tore an ACL and is lost for the season. How much time Williams was going to get this year was debateable, but it would have been nice to see him play special teams and possibly become a factor by later in the season on defense. We'll just have to wait until next year, or the year after that, to see what the kid's got. Consider it a redshirt year.

William's injury does limit the options at an already thin position in terms of backups. Behind DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer, the Cowboys have Victor Butler, Steve Octavien and Justin Rogers. Dallas is doing everything they can to get Bobby Carpenter comfortable and productive as the nickel backer on the inside, so I don't see them swinging him outside in emergencies. The primary backups outside will come from the Butler/Octavien/Rogers trio, or the Cowboys can try to pick someone up from another team. Steve Octavien is intriguing. I barely thought about him before this training camp, but after the first week he'd become my pet cat - every time I checked the days notes on practice, #53 kept turning up, making plays. He also had a very good game on Friday.

After last night it looks like first-year player Steve Octavien could be in the team's plans as well. When the Cowboys opened the second half Friday night with some subs and some starters in the game, Octavien had replaced Ware, while Spencer stayed in on the other side of the 3-4 front. He played deep into the game, and tipped Vince Young's pass that was intercepted by Matt Stewart.

More VRR below...

Star-divide

Flying under the radar is the fact that our starting fullback, Deon Anderson, will not play until at least the first game of the season. The Cowboys are likely to keep only one fullback on the 53-man roster. So while Anderson is sitting out after his knee surgery, Julius Crosslin is trying to make his move and supplant Anderson is the coach's minds. Not sure that Crosslin can do it, but it's an interesting situation to watch. Anderson has served Dallas well on special teams and is an adequate FB. Crosslin is trying to show he can do more than block, that he can help in the passing game.

Crosslin admitted to being a little nervous, though, and he bobbled both catches a bit before eventually securing them. Pass catching was something he did not do much as a fullback at Oklahoma State. "I wasn't looking them in," Crosslin said. "I was trying to get upfield and go. I know what I need to do, and what I need to work on in practice for the next game."

Another story that is starting to get a little more serious is Nick Folk's recovery from surgery. It wasn't talked about much coming into preseason, but it is now, since the ultra-reliable Folk has missed two FG's in two games. Even Wade Phillips admits to a little apprehension.

"There is a little bit of a concern," Phillips said. "I don’t think he is completely well, but he is well enough to be kicking those things. I just think he’ll get better and better as he goes along.

"It wasn’t a minor deal as far as kickers are concerned. I think (John) Carney had the same surgery and had a little problem for a little while and then got back into the groove. We are hoping he does the same thing."

The new stadium is a sight to behold according to all reports, including this excellent first-hand report from Raf. Even the opposition were stunned by Jerry World.

"It was awesome," Titans defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch said at halftime. "It was a lot of fun opening up this place. This is a great stadium. Not only should the fans be excited, but so should the NFL and all the players as well. "It was a great atmosphere here tonight."

Still, there's only one part of the stadium that everyone is talking about. Jerry's $40 million HD video board hanging over the field was a spotlight magnet even before the stadium opened. The biggest of it's kind, it would allow fans to watch the game, and the replays (as Raf pointed out), in stunning clarity and on a scale unimaginable before the stadium's creation. Now, it's become a point of interest for blocking a Titans' punt (maybe the Cowboys best special teams player - I kid!). After the Titans' punters used the board for target practice in warmups, one of them pegged it in a game. Now, we got Jerry, the NFL, the officials, Jeff Fisher, the P.R. department and a Cowboys stadium tour guide all weighing in.

The NFL says:

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in an e-mail that the league office is aware of the issue and will continue to monitor it. Aiello said the NFL's competition committee has not yet scheduled a meeting to discuss the issue, but Titans coach Jeff Fisher indicated it was a possibility after Tennessee rookie A.J. Trapasso's punt hit the board in the third quarter Friday night.

Jerry's stance is based on this:

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones helped set the height at 90 feet above the field— 5 feet above the league minimum—even though tests using the team’s punter, Mat McBriar(notes), showed he could clear 100 feet. The reasoning behind cutting it close was that during the tests, McBriar was trying to boot it that high, but a regular punt has a lower arc and is usually kicked toward a sideline, not right down the middle.

The officials didn't know quite what to do:

Turns out, they might have to raise the video board, which is in the line of fire for punts. Or the league could be forced to examine its rules. "It's something we're going to have to look at in the next week," Mike Pereira, the NFL's director of officiating, told The Times on Saturday. "We need to see if there's anything further we can do to make sure there's equity involved if it happens again."

Pereira said it's entirely possible that a team trying to protect a lead could run time off the clock by intentionally punting the ball into the video board and getting a do-over. He said there is no rule for putting time back on the clock in that situation. "We haven't talked at all about time being put on the clock," he said. "The only thing we've talked about really is the do-over of the play. We've never talked about resetting the clock back to where it was. That's obviously something we're going to have to talk about. And that may be what we arrive at. I would say that it's a big enough issue that we're going to have to address it with the competition committee here probably sometime this week to figure out what direction we want to go."

But let's go to a reliable source, a Cowboys stadium tour guide?

Crews were working on the giant HD screen at Cowboys Stadium on Saturday, and tour guides told paying customers the crane in the middle of the field had to do with raising the video board.

Cowboys PR flaks deny it:

Cowboys spokesman Brett Daniels denied that the work Saturday had anything to do with raising the video board, saying it was part of "ongoing construction" at the stadium. A tour guide said Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was paying additional money to allow the board to be raised and lowered as warranted inside the $1.2 billion stadium. It was already known that the Cowboys would have to raise the video board for the U2 concert on Oct. 12.

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First... game in Cowboys Stadium

and the video board gets in the way. I think they should raise it so it doesn’t take away from the game.

"old's cool"

by CounterEMF on Aug 23, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Tried to go back to get a link and can't find it now.

Pretty sure it was a DMN post that showed were the Cowboys rank in Offensive and Defensive stats, league standings and all that stuff, and there were injuries listed at the side and it mentioned his availability was in question because of knee injury. It may have been on the Ft. Worth paper site, I’ll keep looking. I’ve changed browser windows several times so I can’t just go back.

by bad knees on Aug 23, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its under DMN Sportsday Dallas Cowboys/NFL

lists him as questionable.

I copied the link, but it didn’t work…probably me.

by bad knees on Aug 23, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I've looked through all my "sources" and couldn't find any mention of that.

Either way, I hope Free does get the start. He can always use the work and Flo could always use the rest.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 23, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would that if we would aslo sit Romo

I wouldnt dare put our QB at risk while trying to see what these kids can do.

by ManTab on Aug 23, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stupid Penalties

After all the stupid penalties this last game, maybe sitting Flo will reduce the number. Anybody else think Sensabaugh is a meat head? Two games, two egregious penalties. What we gain from him over Thong maybe given back in big 15 yard chunks.

by steelyeyedmissle on Aug 23, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least he can cover

Do you really think there’s anything worse than Roy Willy in coverage?

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 23, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

Granted, Roy in coverage was a joke. But, there are worse things. We really don’t know if Sensabaugh can cover, yet. We do know that he’s willing to hit someone three steps out of bounds and gifted points to Oakland with an interference call. You do something like that every game and you’re not much better than a safety with limited coverage skills.

by steelyeyedmissle on Aug 24, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the coaches know

And they’re not shy about it.

One gaff on a ST unit during preseason is hardly telling of his Safety prowess.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 24, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

And how many times

did Roy draw the penalty named for him? Those are also 15 yarders.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I tell u what

let’s start our own teams. You can have Roy, I’ll take Sensi.

by sublimezg on Aug 24, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

                   "Roy in coverage was a joke. But, there are worse things. "

When he got smoked it was always for way more than 15 yd, it was usually 7 points. I don’t want bone headed penalties or poor coverage but there’s a chance you can correct the stupid penalties.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 24, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the link, but it doesn't work

http://dallasnews.sportsdirectinc.com/football/nfl-injuries.aspx?page=/data/nfl/injury/injuries.html

Anyway : go to DMN click on Nfl then injuries at the top and it gives you a list for each team

by bad knees on Aug 23, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Free has played well enough the Cowboys may want to see him against first stringers too.

He did work with first team some this pre season under the were giving Flo a rest umbrella.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

About the opposing players in the new stadium, during the game I had the thought that this might be an advantage for a couple of years,

sort of like a dome can be but for different reasons.
The Titans seeme distracted on the sideline as they took it all in, staring up at the screen, and as teams come in for the first time there may be a Slight advantage for the Boys. Eventually it would wear off, if there is one.

  1. was really standing out, let’s hope he can contribute at OLB for some plays so Ware/Spencer get some rest. The other rookies sure don’t look reday to step into a reg. season game for even a few plays.
    Here’s really really hoping a serviceable vet becomes available in case Spencer or Ware get hurt.

Finally, Flo should sit this game either way. And Newman. Guys who are older, have a tendency to get hurt, know the system-and then let some backups play against starters and see how they do.

by Realist Larry on Aug 23, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

1. ??

That was " #53 " when I typed it
Octavian

by Realist Larry on Aug 23, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

weird thing

if you start a line with # it thinks you want an ordered list

by scottmaui on Aug 23, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh

And when is Felix going to return a KO?
Another random thought-at least ONE during preseason, I hope?

by Realist Larry on Aug 23, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check the posting options

Under the entry box there should be a legend that tells you how to use special characters to do that kind of thing. You can avoid those characters once you know about them.

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by Raul Villaronga on Aug 23, 2009 3:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Octavien

seems to be better than Rogers – who filled this role last year.

by JimmyJohnson on Aug 23, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought Octavien looked really good

He seemed to be everywhere around the ball. He stood out to me. Maybe one of those Rat types that come out of nowhere and surprise everyone. That would be a pleasant surprise.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 23, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope so...

For some reason I just like saying his name. Sounds like either a gladiator or a super villian.

OCTAVIENNNNNNNN (picture that in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice.)

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 23, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

13th warrior

Scandrick, Olshansky, Octavian, the barbarian Barber, Buehler, Crosslin, Gurode, Sensenbaugh, Saivii, Spears, Schwapp, Free, Romo

“Lo there do I see my father. Lo there do I see my mother and my sisters and my brothers. Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning. Lo, they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them, in the Halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live…forever.”

The stadium should be named Valhalla.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome post

I’m ready to go to battle.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 23, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 23, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

AARRRR

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Aug 24, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just to put things into perspective...

I think that as Cowboy fans, we have alot more to look foward too than Redskin fans. They have been absolutely horrible

Campbell is is 4-13 for 48 yards.

That is really really really bad.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 23, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Look at it this way too....

I just saw a report that Chris Canty has a torn hamstring… now would you rather have a 42 million dollar player with a bothered hamstring all year and possibly miss the entire season… or a 4th round rookie?

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 23, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Jay Alford

Was carted off the field during the game against the Bears. It could be a serious injury—let’s hope not—and they hope to find out his diagnosis today or tomorrow.

Not sure if Canty’s season is in doubt at this point. Coughlin said it is healing slower than expected. That could be Parcells-speak to imply Canty is not showing as much tougher as he would like, although maybe not.

by kindablue on Aug 23, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tougher = Thoughness

Sorry, my copy editor is on strike.

by kindablue on Aug 23, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

After all that

and you still type better than I do. It’s depressing….

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 23, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah

I don’t know about how well I type. I feel like I’m using my thumbs most the time. What I can’t figure out is why don’t I read my posts carefully before clicking ‘Post’. Too bad we don’t have the edit function; I need it.

by kindablue on Aug 23, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also wanted the edit function, for the same reason...

But unless it only works for about 5 minutes, I’m glad we don’t have it.

Imagine all the editing on posts that are getting ripped … or just the general desire for revisionist history… nope, give me some comedic typos any day.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 23, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

I’ve seen that resolved on other boards by only allowing you to edit until someone responds

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 24, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think its a wash

Canty slightly better pass rusher, Olshansky much better against the run. Olshansky has been getting doubled a lot. He still pushes the into the backfield. Olshansky will not have better stats but our linebackers will. Olshanski is better for this team.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take the better run stopper

There are plenty of guys on the Cowboys who can create pressure. Rat creates a lot more than a normal NT so give me the run stopper.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 23, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

2.2 vs. 2.5 sacks per year

It’s not like Canty was that much better of a pass rusher.

by JimmyJohnson on Aug 23, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

True dat.

Olshansky eats up double teams, freeing up D. Ware on runs or passes.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Aug 24, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Canty doesn't matter

I have no idea why the G-Men signed him. With his 2.5 Sacks / season while sitting between Ware and Rat, he is by far the least scary of the Giants’ front 7 rotation. All he would have done is give one of the Giants’ scary players a breather. They still have the most talented Defensive front since the Reggie White / Jerome Brown Eagles (and maybe even better).

by JimmyJohnson on Aug 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they do...but

You can’t put more than 4 on the field at the same time.

They may have a formidable front 4, but their LBs and DBs are hurt and mediocre respectively.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 23, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHA Thats where your wrong

The giants have been installing a five man line this year, no joke!

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then go 3-wide with Witten and Felix

It’ll just mean that they’re short on LBs and/or DBs.

And I’d love to see a DL on Witten or ’Tellus.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 23, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the two tight end set will be enough,

What the giants are thinking is going to be a strength is going to become a weakness vs our TE’s. I believe that too.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he would've been better in a 4-3

but I get what you’re saying. It still is kick in the ass to depth.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 23, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently.....

Canty is hurt too. Saw it on ESPN website-partial tear in his hamstring. Also, Rocky Bernard. All these FA signings are not panning out as Coughlin wanted because they’re all injured. I believe that Canty has a partially torn hamstring. Sounds painful.

by texstar on Aug 24, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else see

Wade on the side line giving McGee the devil? Wade was visable upset and it looked like he was scolding McGee pretty good, Romo walked up and and calmed Wade down. I’ve never seen him like that.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't see that but..

McGee has a long way to go. He stares down his receivers too much. Even I could tell where he was about to throw it. And that’s pretty bad.

by Benthere on Aug 23, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

When did he do that?

Wonder if it was about him taking off and running every down or not trying to go down field. I thought he had more time a few times but he checked down or took off.

by bad knees on Aug 23, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't remember exactly since it was somewhere in the 4th quarter

and I was already celebrating the victory. On the game day thread I said it looked like he was reinventing the telegraph.

by Benthere on Aug 23, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

McGee

took a hook-slide that was just shy of the 1st down marker. Don’t know if that is what you were referring to as to Wade chewing him out, but it stuck out to me. If you are gonna run on third down, Steve, know where the marker is and get across it. He could have made it, he just ducked too early.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Aug 24, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

After further review ...

I just replayed McGee’s snaps and the hook slide on third down came just before the two-minute warning. McGee came back in for the fourth-and-two and promptly threw a touchdown pass to Hannah, so can’t fault him that much for the short slide, I guess.

The talking-to from Wade (and Jason) came earlier in the quarter, so I was wrong to associate the slide with the chewing out.

Sorry, Steve.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Aug 24, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Video screen

NFL can’t change rules inseason. Not going to happen. Our home field advantage. Tough luck opponents…

usa

by Longhorn on Aug 23, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Have you met Godell,

he has his own rulebook you know, no one else has seen it but its there.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

how is it home field advantage?

It’s stupid that the video screen is too low.

Let’s say Terence Newman is on the left side of the field. The Redskins punt the ball to the right side of the field, and it DISAPPEARS from Newman’s vision behind the right side of the screen… and he muffs it because he loses sight of it for a few seconds. How does that serve as an advantage for the Cowboys?
It’s just stupid.

by Joey2zs on Aug 23, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's funny that OUR kicker doesn't mind it at all

but everyone else is bitching about it.

love it.

usa

by Longhorn on Aug 23, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Seems silly to cut it so thin.

What’s the point? Another twenty feet isn’t going to ruin the sight lines of the screen, but would take the board out of play. What would be the point of cutting it so close?

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Aug 24, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect that the screen issue

is related to the design – where you can ideally view the boards, the lighting, aesthetics, etc. It probably costs some significant money to move. And lastly, it conforms to NFL specs even if that means it can be struck.

I’m not saying he shouldn’t raise it. He probably needs to. But I’m sure it’s sticking in his craw because he feels that he has done due diligence and now people are telling him what to do with his stadium.

Tempest in a teapot stuff to me.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wondered the same thing about viewing angles etc

I’m not very technical but I know if I change the viewing angle much on my big screen it can have a big impact on what the picture looks like. I’m curious if raising the board might affect how it looks.

It sounds like poor judgement to me. Apparently McBriar kicked a few that were 10 ft higher than it is set now so he knew it could be hit. That’s just something that is much easier getting right the first time than now.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 24, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those giant screens at JerryWorld

Are LCD. They don’t have the same viewing angle problems that projection screens do.

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by Brandon Worley on Aug 24, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

The viewing angle varies tremendously from first row to nose-bleed...

That entire set-up looks very mobile, including the angle of the screens to the seats. I’m sure Jerry and Co. can figure out a solution… which likely means raising it 10-15-20 feet.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 24, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just to let every know

that a full fan post is coming. With pics’s of Tammy and myself with smiles on our faces. It may take me a couple of days to get the fan post up as i want to get across what it truly was to me. It was more than just a game. And i want to make sure i choose all the right words in letting every know how much we enjoyed ourselves.

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 23, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

we are really looking forward to it, but I am glad to hear you had a good time and got home safely

by sduncan24 on Aug 23, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

smiles on your faces puts smiles on our faces.

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by 24Hz on Aug 23, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lazy bastid!

:)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 23, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can hardly wait

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 23, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you have a picture of the 2 of you with the score in the background :)

I thought of you often during the game. I was a little nervous that the Boys might lay and egg like they sometimes do on big home games. I couldn’t have been happier that you got to watch them play really well.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 23, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

So glad it was enjoyable. That place has to be an experience all by itself.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crosslin looked pretty good in the game, made some plays and blocks.

by Why on Aug 23, 2009 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

can anyone help?

I would like to propose to my gf @ the 49ers game, and like it to come on the screen, does anyone know who I can contact or who to can help me out? I would really appreciate it!

by TONYINCC on Aug 23, 2009 8:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Why in the hell wuld you want to ruin such a beautiful thing

like a cowboys football game?

Just kidding, I can’t help you but good luck.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 23, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Sorry, I just want a commercial break or somethin, after that strictly business, if she starts crying then she will have to go to the restroom, cause I need to watch the game. Jk

by TONYINCC on Aug 23, 2009 9:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

I hope she says yes.. Nothing like getting denied in the NFL’s largest stadium on the worlds largest video board!

No pressure though

by sublimezg on Aug 23, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be embarrassing

I think I’m pretty safe though, but sheesh that would be on likr americas funniest home videos.

by TONYINCC on Aug 23, 2009 9:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

talk about memorable on so many levels. good luck, Tony!!!

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by silverblue5 on Aug 24, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cowboys PR Department

I’m sure there’s an inbox on their web site or a phone number.

BTW… have any of you seen the prank proposal at Yankees stadium? One of the funniest things ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMHidjDB_Uk

by Joey2zs on Aug 23, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is the PR Dept

They’ll hook you up. I proposed to my wife at Minute Maid Field(formerly Enron) in HOU at an Astros game.

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by tdships on Aug 24, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Early morning thoughts...

Why is it that when the name Isiah Stanback pops up people are so quick to be like “Well that’s a Jerry Jones pick” but it’s never mentioned that Felix Jones or another # of players have been Jerry Jones picks?

GM’s across the board have made bad draft picks, and even though the 90’s were aweful draft times, I think that he’s either A gotten better, or B taken advice from people who know the business.

I think that he’s definitly deserved alot of the criticism he’s received but sometimes it seems like people are just looking for a punching bag.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Aug 24, 2009 5:44 AM CDT reply actions  

"either A gotten better, or B taken advice from people who know the business."

According to Fighter 15’s signature, these are one in the same

So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?

by NICK L on Aug 24, 2009 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

That'

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dayum, I auto-posted!

What I started to say… you’re right. He’s getting lumpd these days with Al davis and Dan Snyder and that’s unfair. He makes some mistakes, but I think the past several drafts have been pretty solid, so he must be learning somethng as he goes.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Davis and Snyder are in leagues of their own

Jerry’s last 5 or so drafts have been no worse than average. Those 2 are way below average

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 24, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw the Felix pick after the fact

They were on the board and discussing who to take. Garrett was asked his opinion about who was left, and he suggested Felix. Jerry kept his mouth shut until Garrett said Felix a second time, then he agreed to take him. Stanbach is just one of those guys who can’t seem to take a pounding. I really believe we need to move on. We could have had a number of productive football players with that pick. He’s helped us out with kick returns, but we have at least two other guys who can give us more there. Unless he does something, and soon, he may be out of chances.

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"

by White Wolf on Aug 24, 2009 6:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Based on what I saw out of Ogletree

They better cut Stanback or we will all regret that decision for the next 10 years

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 24, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

I was thinking the same thing we I went through the DVR of the game again yesterday. The Tree can flat-out play.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

To opposing CBs

From Ray Sherman, “Don’t eat from that Ogletree!”

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 24, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like that!

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

MORE OGLETREE ... PLEASE!!!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 24, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

DCFanatic recently did an interview with him.

Cool stuff. Here’s da link.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 24, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone Notice

that Joe Buck seemed overly excited about the ball hitting the video screen. He really wanted to focus on the negative.

by staubachfan on Aug 24, 2009 7:30 AM CDT reply actions  

With all the money Jerry spent

why not invest in some CIA-quality shock-chairs so you ’cue Buck whenever he says something out of line?

Wonder if Dalrymple has a suggestion box…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 24, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes Troy must be thinking about what he did

to get stuck with such a schmo. All Buck talked about on the last T.D drive for the number one offense was that it was against the Titan’s number two sencondary. I’m like who cares? They still get paid to play don’t they. It isn’t like they are a bunch of scrubs off the streets. They are legitimate backups that might actually play some day. Now if it had come against the third and fourth stringers then yeah, Buck, talk it up.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Aug 24, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I noticed that too, like this game was going to have some tangible affect on the record books.

We need to have an asterisk put on that drive because the safeties and CBs were 2nd string, if that was the case why did we run so well on them, the majority of the yards were on the ground so poor run defense not pass defense was to blame for the titans on that drive.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Aug 24, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

the 42 yards Felix got on a 5 yard dump off was the biggest gain

There were 2 missed tackles by the Titans after he first got the ball, I don’t know if they were LBs, safeties or CBs, but they obviously misjudged his peed and had bad angles.

by bad knees on Aug 24, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh?

It’s first team against second team. It’s a valid point to bring up. You’d sure as S bring it up if the Titans drove against Ball and the 2nd team crew… and you’d stand by it as the only reason the Titans scored.
I watched the game, and Joe Buck didn’t seem to overly dwell on this.

by Joey2zs on Aug 24, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was the Canadian Mist listening

but, I swear he mentioned it at least 4 times during the drive.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Aug 24, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

To each his own definition, but Joe Buck is definitely a tool who dwells on the negative. There is no announcer alive who could bring up T.O.‘s drop stats more often than Joe Buck used to. There was even a game two years ago in which I remember Joe Buck saying T.O. dropped it despite the fact that the ball was ankle high while T.O. was running full sprint. Then, even when Troy mentioned that it wasn’t really a drop, Joe Buck brought it up a few more times.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 24, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you and gunsup above.

I think ol’ Joe and Troy must have had a bet going and Joe wanted to keep pointing out the “backup corners” to save face. The ol’ “this wouldn’t be happening if the starters were in there” routine. Of course, there’s no way of knowing, is there Joe?

And no I don’t have a link. Pure speculation, y’all.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Aug 24, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like Tray and Joe go out of their way to show their not Biased

which ends up being biased for the other team, whoever it is.

You know I am getting to were I can’t stand old monotone Troy as a color commentator.

by bad knees on Aug 24, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have a biased commentator like Emmitt?

No way in hell they would ever let him near the booth but you get my point. Aikman’s not so bad. Joe Theismann; now that assclown sucked.

by MadMick on Aug 24, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The ironic part is that other teams' fans say the same thing about Troy.

Except they say that he is horribly biased toward the Cowboys. In my business, when I get complaints that I am going too far in both directions, I know that I must have gotten it right. I think that the same is true for Troy.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 24, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now, if you really want to talk biased.....

Michael (gap-tooth) Strahan is sooooooo biased towards the Giants that it’s sickening.

by texstar on Aug 24, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that I suppose. I won’t lie though, when Troy is down on the Cowboys it makes me a little sad since he embodied the Cowboys to me growing up. I just always hope that somewhere underneath all that broadcaster bravado that he is secretly rooting for the Cowboys to kill the other team.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 25, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

but I think maybe people think it because Aikman doesn’t join in on the nonsense part of the narrative the rest of them accept as fact – locker room dramas, who is dating whom, Wade is too soft, all that crap.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

to both stillHate and Dunk… hilarious!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 24, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTH? Two of our top draft picks out for the year?

You can count those two guys basically as next years draft. Yeah, Williams got a little bit of work in training camp but not much. Oh well, that’s how it goes right? Better than our starters!

by torchindefenses on Aug 24, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

true

If we’re going to suffer some season ending injuries, it’s definitely better they be back ups than key starters.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 24, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

and

better now then later.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 24, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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