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Tuesday Trainer Report: Football Hurts

We don't root for injuries here at BTB, but they matter. Football hurts and injuries can doom a team's season.  RIght now, the Cowboys find themselves in a fortunate position relative to their divisional cousins.

At the end of free agency, many pundits awarded the Giants the Snyder Trophy, for the best free agency period. New York added Chris Canty and Rocky Bernard to a rotation that already included Fred Robbins, Barry Cofield and Jay Aford.  The Giants seemed to have a rotation to rival the '92 Cowboys, who could wear you out rotating Tony Casillas, Russell Maryland, Jimmy Jones, Leon Lett and Chad Hennings.

Star-divide

New York's plans have gone off track just two weeks into the pre-season.  Robbins and Cofield both had off-season surgery.  (Rumors surfaced that both had microfracture procedures but the team has been tight-lipped.  Bernard missed time with a hamstring pull and just returned to practice last week.

Last week, Canty went down with a torn hamstring that could keep him out several weeks.  And in Saturday's 17-3 loss at Chicago, Alford, the one healthy incumbent, suffered two torn ligaments that could scuttle his season before it begins.

-- In Philadelpha they're waiting for their offensive linemen to return to practice.  Only one of the projected five starters played in the Eagles most recent game, though none of the injuries are considered season-threatening. Philly has a very good o-line coach in Juan Castillo, but the line, considered the team's strength after Jason Peters and Stacey Andrews were obtained, looks iffy at the moment.

You'll see no gloating here. Last year's Cowboys looked just like this year's team coming out of camp. Then, in a two week span, Dallas lost Kyle Kosier, Terence Newman and its number 2,3 and 4 receivers.  The Cowboys are healthy now, but one bad week could see them swap places in the injury standings with one of these two.

Notes:

-- Speaking of injuries, Terrell Owens has not practiced since August 9th because of an injured big toe. Since his release, we have heard pundits wonder, "how will Dallas replace his production?"  RIght now, they would be asking the same thing if he were still on the team.

--The one that got away:  On draft day, the Cowboys thought they had scored a bargain when Oregon center Max Unger slipped down the draft board.  They were ready to pick him in spot 51, but the Seattle Seahawks cut a deal with Chicago and swiped him with the 50th pick.

I watched Unger play the late quarters for the Seahawks over the weekend. He played the second quarter at right guard.  He played the third at left guard and some of the last quarter at center.  I could not get a good read on Unger's run blocking, because the 'Hawks passed most of the time, but Unger pass protected very well. He has good feet and can get out in space to lead screens.  

I like the Cowboys offense, but would feel better about the line if a guy like Unger were the primary interior line backup. 

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Too bad about Unger.

But we have to remember that there are 31 other teams working just as hard to make themselves better, and we got scooped on this one.

Hopefully it won’t be an issue this year, and they’ll get someone similar next year.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 25, 2009 1:05 AM CDT reply actions  

From what you saw, pre-injury...

Was he at the same level or similar to Unger? Oh, I guess he was a tackle and not a guard, though. But based on what you saw in camp, did you get the feeling that he is going to eventually develop into a starter?

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 25, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since he was injuried before camp began ...

I don’t think anyone could tell much watching Brewster standing on the sidelines.

by northtexan95 on Aug 25, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

The interior lineman I wanted in the last draft,

Antoine Caldwell, was on the board when we took Brewster. Although Brewster’s going to work at tackle, I’m still interested in comparing how each turns out. Caldwell went to Houston, a team with a worse history of Olinemen than us.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 25, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you.

I just knew that he was the player that Dallas was taking in the third round with their second pick. Caldwell can play guard and center. A buddy who is a Texans fan still gives me grief about Dallas missing on that one. Maybe Brewster will turn into a great guard.

MWB

by MWB on Aug 25, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe, we'll have to see.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 25, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unger: Can't Win 'em All

I think we got the better deal two drafts ago with Felix Jones over Rashard Mendenhall, so we just take the good with the bad, I guess.

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5

by Grady90 on Aug 25, 2009 4:15 AM CDT reply actions  

It's a good point

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't even imagine the Cowboys being in Philthy's situation

Only 1 projected starter playing. We would all be going totally nuts thinking about that prospect. And the worst part is we would be justified, the season would be over before it starts.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 25, 2009 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Ditto on Unger

Loved this:

Snyder trophy

This needs to be an official award in the NFL. They’ll call it “winning a Danny”.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions  

So true.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 25, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can you really call it “winning a Danny”? I think a better word would be “obtaining a Danny” since Danny seems more concerned with obtaining big-name free agents than he does with winning.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 25, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm. This is true

It’s like that ridiculous turkey thing that Collingsworth hands out – no one wants it but there it is…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

NT and OL

We better all be avoiding black cats, mirrors, and opening umbrellas indoors. Injuries at NT or OL will change the season overnight.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 25, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Actually last year we were okay until the Arizona game...

That game was the killer, although the injuries could be directly or indirectly related to the Kosier injury.

by rha on Aug 25, 2009 7:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

sort of a domino effect after Kosier got hurt…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Duck I wanted the Cowboys to get, Nick Reed,

had a nice first preseason game against the Chargers with 1.5 sacks, a couple tackles, a pass defense, and even an interception. He just seemed to be after the QB on most plays. Don’t know how he woulda fit into a 34, but he looked good as a 43 DE.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 25, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions  

puttin' on my proofing nazi hat

i think you meant

Jay Alford

as opposed to what you accidentally typed in paragraph 2…

Steve Aford.

Just trying to help.

But I understood your point about how the Giants linemen are gettin’ injured this early in the preseason.

Although I never want anyone to get hurt like that, it does make you wonder if the G-Men are gonna be snake bit this year.

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by silverblue5 on Aug 25, 2009 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I said before camp it would come down to injuries in this division.

We have been luck,y our players lost for the season have been rookies/nonstarters. Knock on wood.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 25, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

posting at 1 am, after a big glass of wine leads to these miscues. Edit appreciated.

by Rafael Vela on Aug 25, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

notice bye dawk on there

I think the Eagles are in for a beat down.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 25, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Norm, I notice...

Bye Dawk all the time over there. I go and read the vibe on our opponents all the time. I can tell you this about all our opponents “percieved” weaknesses on our team….

1. Eagles and Giants fans believe our O-line to be too old and slow and not able to protect Romo

2. The WR’s are a weakness of this team (Includin RW 11) Eagles fans feel this way more than Giants fans do

3. Jason Garrett

I am able to accept they’re “percieved” weakness of our O-line being older, and I accept that our O-line maybe not as good pass blocking than run blocking. But a weakness? Maybe percieved by our opponents as a weakness, but only because of Garrett. Nothing is said about Garrett’s appeasement of T.O. last year by throwing the ball deep too many times, and his apparent discarding of the fact that we are not good enough at pass blocking to run an offense that way. But turn the tables around and change this offense into a quick strike/short passing game and run offense, gotten rid of T.O., and hopefully Jason Garrett gets his thinking cap on, and I guarantee this offensive line will be more than good enough to take the team all the way, irregardless of what our division opponents think.

As far as number two, the weakness of our wide recievers, and I can understand where they are coming from. But I do not believe our passing offense should revolve around a “main” threat. The ball has to be distributed around a few players, just to keep the defenses we play honest. Do you remember last year when people like Ray Lewis were making hints of our offense being predictable? Using Tashard Choice, Marty B, Ogletree, Julius Crosslin Deon Anderson, as well as others makes the offense multi-dimensional, and keeps defenses on they’re heels a bit. It may be something as simple and as stupid as that to make the offense become a bigger threat than we could have ever hoped for, and all because of the run and shrt passing game, not the “down the field”passing game that has permeated from Garrett’s mind since he’s been offensive coordinator. Let them put aside our Wr’s, because I believe even our 3rd and 4th TE’s will gash our opponents (Hannah and Phillips) if they keep believeing our passing game is weak.

As far as the third percieved weakness, Jason Garrett, I have to give them that one. He has been our biggest weakness, second to nothing else. You can say he’ll be better this year because he has no T.O. to appease. You can also say to me that you have belief that he will evolve this year after he has gained much needed experience. I can only say back to you that I hope your belief in him is correct.
                                                      During the Titans game I heard Troy Aikman talk about how he belives his personal division rankings are 1.Eagles 2.Giants then 3.Cowboys (thanks alot for the vote of confidence Troy!). My personal rankings (Dallaspalace) are 1.Cowboys 2.Giants 3.Redskins 4.Eagles.
               Your probably going to call me a homer, but I beg you to re-consider what I am saying. If the Cowboys address they’re real weaknesses, this is how I would rank the tope 3 important issues.

1. Jason Garrett- his playcalling on offense has to get better. If it doesn’t, then we are doomed to the pre-season prediction of third behind the G-men and the E-gals. With the subtraction of a “main” recieving threat (whom we’ll refer to as “the player”) and Jason Garrett is kind of forced to consider a short passing game and the running game as the Cowboys offensive strength, whether he likes it or not.
Say what you will about it, but this is our biggest shortcoming so far. The realization by THIS offensive coordinator that our O-line is better suited to be a run blocking bohemeth rather than a pass-blocking unit is still the question. We have not seen a regular season game yet, so it’s still the biggest question at least in my mind. I have belief that Garrett will overcome, but I’m sorry that I have to say “seeing is believeing”.

2. Special Teams- until we get this problem solved, it will cost us anywhere from 2-4 games itself this year. To think otherwise would be foolish. If we adress this problem, it will translate into a playoff birth.

3. Spencer/Sensabaugh/Ken Hamlin- I expect our defense to be one of the top defenses in the NFL this year. Naming these three players as pivotal is my point. Spencer has to have a good year (I believe he will) and Sensabaugh has to cover well (I believe he will) but the one I have my doubts about are Ken Hamlin. If he is the quarterback of the defensive backfield, than should I expect some pivotal plays from him? absolutely! He should lead by example. This player is the only one out of the three that I mentioned that I am worried about. Adding to this 3rd most important issue would be Keith Brooking. To say that his play will go a long way to securing a post season appearance is an understatement.

Offensive line as well as offensive line depth would qualify right now with me as number 4, but very important.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Aug 25, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A blog scouting report

nice work.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Garrett complaints are over-blown

just as the “Redheaded Genius” stuff was over the top after the 2007 season. He’s still a little young and inexperienced as an OC but he has certainly shown that he can hang with his peers.

The Cowboy’s line is fine for giving Romo a three step drop consistently. I think they can almost always give him a five step drop, and they can often give him a seven step drop, but they are not the 90s Cowboys O-line for sure. Run blocking, they are feast or famine, but more than serviceable.

The WR thing is almost hilarious because (1) There are no “great” WRs anywhere in the NFC East (2) Roy Williams was coveted by all three teams at some point before Dallas got him and (3) They always forget about Witten and now Bennett, as well as what Felix can do. It would be like laughing at the Eagles’ offense without considering Westbrook.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that

the complaints about Garrett are overblown as was the “genuis” label in 2007.

The big difference is that in 2007 Garrett had a very experienced coach, Sparano, helping with the offense. It doesn’t matter how smart someone is, experience will help. Perhaps a smart guy like Garrett might learn faster than others.

I’m really looking forward to seeing how he does this year. I think he has HIS offense in place.
I think Romo friendly = Garrett friendly.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 25, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

and I think he has a greater variety of play-makers available and no one to keep happy but himself. The more I think about it, the more I realize that trying to build the offense around TO wasn’t a bad idea when he was unstoppable, but it became a liability as TO become merely very good last season. They’ve asked Romo to be more ball-secure and not looking to Owens first will certainly help matters, as will having several places to go on every play.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong Dunk....

I’m not saying Garrett can’t do it. I just don’t believe in giving someone something before they have earned it. I’m sorry to say that when he was given the “genious” label, it was given to him without him doing anything to earn it. Some (like myself) believe that when he was given the “genious” label, it actually became a jinx. Can Garrett break that Jinx? For sure last year when he was up against the great defensive coordinators that we had to play, He seemed to be a child going up against an adult.
                                      I feel the same way about the Mike Jenkins/Orlando Scandrick situation. Why should I believe that because Micheal Jenkins is a first round pick he deserves to start over Scandrick especially if Scandrick outplayed him? I’m sorry, i believe in performance, not the hype of reputation. The Cowboys have believed in the hype of reputation for a long time, in regards to coaches and players, and what has it gotten them? A 12 year playoff drought!

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Aug 25, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree Garrett

is a work in progress, no doubt.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 26, 2009 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, that would have made a nice fanpost

… and wouldn’t get lost in a thread that’s going go dark in a day or two.

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 25, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely!

I’m impressed… many good points… you’d at least get 1 rec! :)

Superbowl, or BUST.

by .FRoST.USAF on Aug 26, 2009 3:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 Nice post

but … I can barely keep up with 1/2 the stuff here … where do you find the time?!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 26, 2009 5:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rafael, please do me a favor

Please refer to these men as “ATHLETIC TRAINERS”….

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Aug 25, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I think when somebody refers to a trainer

on this blog, everyone knows it’s an athletic trainer.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 25, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be so sure

I thought he was referring to someone who was really into trains.

by Kevdog on Aug 25, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

why?

I used to be a trainer myself. I’ve wrapped enough ankles for two lifetimes. Why so touchy about titles?

by Rafael Vela on Aug 25, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

What would Andy Roonie Say? Why do they call them Trainers?

They don’t Train anybody to do anything: Shouldn’t they be called Rappers? No, there not angry enough and they don’t rhyme. Should they be called Tapers? Maybe, they do use a lot, but somehow, using tape to hold a multimillion dollar athlete together seem a bit sticky. We could call them stretchers. They do do this to guys that have cramps and and to help guys from have those dreaded pulls; But this still isn’t the correct title because no one wants to see a stretcher come on the field when a player is hurt.

by bad knees on Aug 25, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

was excellent!

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 hilarious

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 26, 2009 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess we should call them MOMMIES!

A mommy will put a band aide on your boo-boo. She’s the only one you trust to put that suave anywhere near yor special place. She runs your tub for you at the end of the day. She won’t let you play with the other boys when you don’t feel well, and note from her will excuse you for the day.

by bad knees on Aug 25, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is even better !

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 26, 2009 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not my mom

She was more a fan of Nietzsche. “Get back out there Nancy-boy or I’ll really give you something to cry about”

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 26, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

so... then... what's YOUR excuse?

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 26, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back in my football days

the good trainers would educate you on why you’re there in the first place. They’d “train” you how to better take care of your body so that you may avoid coming back too soon. That would be my guess as to why they are called trainers.. shrug

by sublimezg on Aug 25, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It has been a pretty snakebit month for us

But Robbins, Cofield, and Bernard all practiced yesterday. Barring anymore unfortune happenings they should be ready to go by Sep. 14.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 25, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Thats good to hear.

I take pride in the fact that the NFC East is the toughest division in football and feel thats why so many SBs have been won by this division. You survive this division and your ready for anyone.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 25, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

If only the birds could win one.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 25, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is but

The NFC South is looking pretty strong and for that matter so is the North. The NFC is slowly becoming a bad neighborhood to live in…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is true for sure, but the NFL tends to work in cycles and the Cowboys enjoyed the most success in franchise history when the NFC was winning almost every Super Bowl. I am just fine with the balance of power shifting back.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 25, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The NFC north looks tough as well.

I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson

by squidlo97 on Aug 26, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

TO

yeah I thought that too … if he was still on the Cowboys, people would still be down on us cause the Boys would be without their #1 WR …. now it’s Buffalo’s problem. Thank god.

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Aug 25, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Is cheering in bad taste?

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 25, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, very

Bad karma man……you can do it, but only to yourself

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 25, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the DalaiLuke

should know better…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But feel free

to adopt any Giant, Eagle or Redskin as your pet cat…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

dunk, just so you know...

I decided to adopt you as my blogger pet cat

just sayin :)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 26, 2009 6:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Suddenly

I’m having chest pains and a high ankle sprain…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 26, 2009 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just as long as it's not a groin.

That could hamper you till Christmas.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 26, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

this is not good.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 26, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

And why are you

blogging about my groin???

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 26, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

SEE !!!

I knew this was gonna be entertaining :)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 26, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont factor Canty be much of an impact....

I heard yesterday he has a torn hamstring…I don’t know the recovery time for that, but it can’t be soon…

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

oops..somehow missed that in the article....

That could linger for awhile if I had to guess….It appears some are pulling back from the Giants after the two poor preseason showings and now the injuries…

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

Go Ducks!

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

AFLAC!

Or was that a goose?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ben

Aflac!

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 25, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

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