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Cowboys vs. 49ers: 5 Questions with Niners Nation

We asked a few questions of Fooch over at Niners Nation, SB Nation's excellent 49ers blog.

Blogging The Boys: It's been a while since the 49ers had a winning record. Is there confidence in San Fran this year that you guys will get on the winning side and compete for the playoffs?

Niners Nation: People are all over the place with this team.  At Niners Nation, I've got folks predicting 11 wins and I've got folks predicting 5 or 6 wins.  At this point I'm thinking 9 wins, but an 8-8 team would really not surprise me.  People see the team improving, but some folks are a little more impatient about it than others.  That of course is due to a combination of the long stretch of success in the 80s and 90, followed by the exact opposite for much of this decade.  Jed York, nephew to 49ers patron saint Eddie DeBartolo, has become the face of the franchise and I do think he's inspired more confidence from people.

Star-divide

BTB: Give us the scoop on recently-named stating QB Shaun Hill. What's the update on his injury and what kind of player is he?

NN: Shaun Hill is expected to start this Saturday.  The back injury sort of came out of nowhere but seems to be a relatively mild sprain.  Apparently Hill was surprised by the level of scrutiny it received.  The rest of us who know how the media and Internet operates were not.  The original plan was for the starters to get their heaviest dose of of playing time to date, potentially into the early part of the 3rd quarter.  I can honestly say I don't know what that means now that Hill has had the tweak in his back.  

As far as Hill is as a quarterback, he's definitely a more conservative QB who would seem to fit well in the Jimmy Raye power running offensive attack.  He has no qualms checking down to a tight end or running back if something is not there up top.  The positive to that is that hopefully we'll see few interceptions.  The downside is you're not exactly scaring defenses.  As a QB though, Hill commands the respect of the huddle, and not just because he has a winning record as a QB.  There's just a chemistry there that seemed to be lacking with Alex Smith.  My impression is that Hill is a guy the rest of the team is prepared to go to war with and Alex Smith lacked that quality.  Of course, we'll see what happens if Hill gets a full 16 games under his belt and defenses can make the necessary adjustments.

BTB: How are you liking Mike Singletary as the head coach? What kind of tone has he set in the offseason/preseason.

NN: The running joke is that he's all about Physical with an F!  And yet that's basically how it is.  He's done a lot of work as a motivational speaker (although he does not live in a van down by the river) so he brings that personality to the team.  In fact, the 49ers marketing department has basically taken his various quotations and used them in advertising.

It's 100% clear he is looking to build a team that will punch folks in the mouth and play a very physical brand of football.  One can look to the first day of practice when he introduced a drill called the Nutcracker.  It involved players going one-on-one trying to drive the other one back.  It led to injuries to Dave Baas and Patrick Willis among others (although Willis is back and will be playing Saturday).  So there is certainly the question of being too physical, but for now it's just a matter of toughening guys up.

BTB: What are some of the main issues the 49ers still want to settle in the rest of the preseason?

NN: Well, as of lunch time Friday, the 49ers primary backup offensive tackle, Marvel Smith, announced his retirement.  Originally he was expected to be the starting right tackle but his injuries held him to one practice a day (sitting out the afternoon practices) and he just decided to call it quits.  That leaves the 49ers thin on the line so I'd expect backups Barry Sims and Alex Boone (the rookie who admitted that before entering rehab he would drink 30 beers a day, and also required a pair of tasers to take him down after a relapse in February).  Boone was battling for a roster spot and now seems very likely assured of one.

Other than that, the team is still trying to determine their starting right cornerback between veteran addition Dre Bly and third year corner Tarell Brown.  They've got some battles for backup spots and the 3rd-5th receivers, but otherwise the 49ers have a good idea of their starting lineup for the most part.

BTB: Tell us all we need to know about the Michael Crabtree deal.

NN: I still post about it, but I'm no longer bothering to get worked up about it.  It's gotten to the point where things are getting ugly in the Crabtree camp as it's rumored his agent Eugene Parker has said Crabtree is the hold-up.  Of course, if Parker made a bunch of promises to Crabtree and can't deliver now, it might be understandable for Crabtree to be upset.  People are claiming Crabtree will sit out all year, but financially that makes no sense.  He'd have to be delusional to think that if he sat out the full season and re-entered the draft that a team would draft him that high again (see Williams, Mike).  Throw in the money issues and I'd bet a lot of money that he'd end up getting signifciantly less money than what the 49ers are reportedly offering now.  As to that, basically the 49ers have offered him slot money that reflects the 10th pick.  No more, no less.

The problem with all this is that if a guy philosophically believes he deserves the most money for wide receivers, but the system in place does not recognize this, who's willing to lose face first?  As far as I'm concerned, at most the 49ers could pay him the same as the #9 pick (Crabtree went 10).  If they go any further they're basically setting themselves up to be punked out by draft picks for the rest of time.  No way GM Scot McCloughan is willing to give himself that reputation at this point in his career.  And if Crabtree sits out the year and never wears a 49ers uniform, it would certainly annoy me, but I believe in the 49ers on this one.

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Last time I cared about the 49ers was ten years ago.

How sweet is that?

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 29, 2009 5:24 AM CDT reply actions  

It used to be sweet.

But now I kind of miss that rivalry.

Either that, or I’m just sick of the Eagles always thinking we can’t sweep them.

The season begins in 3...2...
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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 29, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

try living in Northern Cali …. it’s still a good rivalry here. Niner fans make me wanna puke, scoop it up, eat it, then puke again.

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Aug 29, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there goes my

lunch plans…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still esrly for those of us in NorCal

so I can recover.
I know what he means.

If I had a penny for every time I’ve seen “The Catch” replayed on local stations……

by Realist Larry on Aug 29, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

or hear

“THIS IS OUR YEAR!!! SINGLETARY IS AWESOME!!!”

Shut it!!

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Aug 29, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Singletary

I think he has a great future as a Head Coach in the NFL. (I am not sure you can be to tough – this is the NFL!)

The sitting out for a season … Go Ahead and do it – LOL! What a nincompoop (sp?)

SF is a team on the rise – but they need a QB and a help on the defense among other things. I think Singletary will simple “will” the team to 9 victories.

Off subject: I am either real excited about the NFL season, the fact that it’s about to start or I have really high hopes for the Cowboys this year -- could be both.

STXShooter

I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys

by stxshooter on Aug 29, 2009 5:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I like Singletary a whole lot ...

And believe he could become a great HC… but for now, the jury’s still out. He did a decent job last year, and you can’t expect miracles with the personnel the 49ers currently have, but he’ll be judged on his success going forward.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Aug 29, 2009 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think his act will fade

good coach to get them back to mediocrity but he will never produce a champion unless he has some serious intelligence on the defensive side of the ball. either that or gets a great offensive coordinator. IMO the motivational thing will fade but I would not doubt that the guy can install a solid defensive scheme, thats what i think will determine his success

by Becho on Aug 29, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have high hopes for the Cowboys

But not high expectations. Keeping them cautiously low to set myself up for disappointment later in the year. Unfortunately the Titans preseason game got me psyched and now I’m all over the place :P

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5

by Grady90 on Aug 29, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

same here.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping to be psyched

after the 49’ers.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 29, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comparing my hatred to the 49ers vs Eagles

The first Cowboys game I ever watched was the Dwight Clark catch. I remember Deon Sanders flagrantly grabbing Irvin in ’95. Bit they were always among the most fun to watch teams ever and their fans were loud, funny and civil.

Then there’s Philly. The Buddy Bowl, the battery bowl, Michael Irvin laying motionless on the god-awful, filthy Veterans Stadium turf as their degenerate, human sewage fanbase cheered with glee.

I loathe the Eagles far, far more. I hope the 49ers return to grace. Their fans deserve it.

by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 29, 2009 8:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah

as big a rivalry as it was, I didn’t actually hate those guys.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least 49er fans are the same species as usb

I’m not sure exactly which “family” the fans from Philthy are, swine, vermin, bacteria?

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't be insulting...

to swine (pigs are smart), vermin (scavengers that remove trash), or bacteria (many are quite helpful to the human system). IMO there is no valid comparison to the Eagles’ fans in the animal kingdom. Nothing sinks that low naturally, Eagles’ fans work at it, and have had plenty of practice.

by mdlusk on Aug 30, 2009 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Are Proud Of It

Speaking of those wretched scum of the Earth, where have the Iggles trolls been lately?

The older I get, the better I was.

by Far Rider on Aug 31, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never Mind

I see IT right below us. Where he belongs.

The older I get, the better I was.

by Far Rider on Aug 31, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Comparing my hatred to the 49ers vs Eagles

The first Cowboys game I ever watched was the Dwight Clark catch. I remember Deon Sanders flagrantly grabbing Irvin in ’95. Bit they were always among the most fun to watch teams ever and their fans were loud, funny and civil.

Then there’s Philly. The Buddy Bowl, the battery bowl, Michael Irvin laying motionless on the god-awful, filthy Veterans Stadium turf as their degenerate, human sewage fanbase cheered with glee.

I loathe the Eagles far, far more. I hope the 49ers return to grace. Their fans deserve it.

by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 29, 2009 8:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

And now the criminal Philly fanbase

Has a criminal QB who should be starting by game 12. To utter what I wish for that team would be uncivil.

by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 29, 2009 8:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Deion

I presume you mean January of 95, not the 95 season, right? I don’t recall the play.

by BVandy on Aug 29, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Michael Irvin NEVER pushed off

I’m sorry, I had to say it. I appreciate the fact that you can respect the 49ers fans even as they were intense rivals.

by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to add a question...

How many times will Andy Lee hit the video screen?

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

The 49ers and their long stretch of suck

The Niners were my favorite rival back in the day, way more than even our fellow NFCE rivalries. I grew up my teen years in the SF bay area and had a ton of friends who were Niner fans. They ALWAYS ganged up on me, but it sure was sweet when the Cowboys would smack them around and I was left to be the lone happy guy.

The Niners were a team I could quietly route for to do well (when they’re not playing the Boys), whereas you’d never catch me doing that for another NFCE team. So here’s to a good year for the Niners and to a resurgence of an old rivalry! Oh and I hope you get creamed tomorrow ;)

by sublimezg on Aug 29, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Well,

at least 49er nation will have something to look forward to. Because by halftime they sure as he[[ won’t be interested in the game anymore. Cowboys are going to make them look silly, just like last year.

As for tolerating 49er fans, I agree, they are much funner and mature that the other teams in the NFC East. Especially Philly fans, who can go on teasing us forever about not winning a playoff game in years. We’ve got five rings, they still have none.

And I guarantee we’ll get another ring before they do.

Go Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by MrScary on Aug 29, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, TIME TO DRINK!

Rob Phillips on DC.com just blogged that Lee hit the board during warmups.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Aug 29, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

that boone kid sounds like a fun drinking partner

You’d think he’d stick to his namesake and go with strawberry hill.

Btw, mobile commenting rocks

The season begins in 3...2...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 29, 2009 9:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

that boone kid sounds like a fun drinking partner

You’d think he’d stick to his namesake and go with strawberry hill.

Btw, mobile commenting rocks

The season begins in 3...2...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 29, 2009 9:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

but its easier to post same thing twice

That, of course, can be a user issue.

The season begins in 3...2...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 29, 2009 9:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The 49'ers represent bookends to the 2 Cowboy chamionship eras

The Catch signified the beginning of the end for the Brandt/Landry Championship teams. The NFC championship in SF(played on colored Kitty Litter, according to the players)signified the ascension of the Jones/Johnson teams.

I never could accept those Montana-led 49’ers were better than the Boys. Despite The Catch, SF was a horse-collar tackle at mid-field away from losing just as dramatically as they won. Similarly, I did not believe it realistic that 1st Cowboy championship team of the 90’s could beat SF in their own stadium.

That marked about a 5 year stretch where that rivalry was as heated as any for the Boys. Great insight in, ‘Boys Will Be Boys’ about how Kevin Smith would get into Jerry Rice’s head.

The 7th Rule of "Fight Club": Fights will go on as long as they have to.

by tdships on Aug 29, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

The worst thing about the whole Cowboys/49ers rivalry

is that if it weren’t for the fricking Patriots, it never would have happen.

Whatever year Jerry Rice was drafted, the Patriots had the 16th pick, the Cowboys the 17th. The Cowboys ahd scouted Rice heavily and were going to take him until the Pats traded their pick to San Fran and they got Rice.

If we had gotten Rice, you could add at least 2 more SB’s to Dallas and take away 2 from San Fran. There would have been no rivalry.

Just another reason to hate the Patriots.

by MrScary on Aug 29, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And we picked Kevin Brooks with the next pick

Just to put a cap on that story. Nothing more need be said.

The 7th Rule of "Fight Club": Fights will go on as long as they have to.

by tdships on Aug 29, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Grizz

I was surprised and impressed that you got through their questions, including the one about “post-TO,” without a mention of Roy Williams.

Cool.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Aug 29, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

This will be a good test for our run D against power

Glenn Coffee, their rookie from Alabama (Roll Tide!) is the leading rusher in preseason and ripped through Oakland last week.

Of course, that was Oakland. Still, Coffee’s big, and they have Frank Gore too.

by Realist Larry on Aug 29, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

and

we have Ratliff and Ware. Whoo-hoo!

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Aug 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love those guys but

Power running is where I see a weakness for the Boys’ D.

Let’s just Baltimore last year still tastes like my own puke!

by Realist Larry on Aug 29, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm astonished to hear about these happenings in the Niners' camp.

My impression from the local and national traditional media sources has been that everybody else is doing just great and Jerry and Wade have so screwed things up down here that it’s a wonder we can even field a team, much less hang a scoreboard/jumboTV properly.

Glad I have access to some sanity here “on the blogs”.

Keep up the good work gents.

P. S. Also noticed where even “tough guy” Singletary isn’t allowing tackling to the ground. Maybe JFE can coin a “cute” phrase for Niners Training Camp.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Aug 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Which brings up a point about Scandrick/RoyW

Those of you who were complaining about Scandrick-You weren’t the same ones crying about ‘Camp Cupcake’ were you?
Cause if you did both, you need to think about it.

by Realist Larry on Aug 29, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

My only complaint was stupidity. I loved the physical camps Jimmy ran.

I just think they were meant for pads.
If pass rushers can pull up on QBs ,(who they loathe), if they take more than one step then it can be done.
I guarantee you everyone on this blog will come unglued if he takes an “aggressive/instintive” penalty that cost us a playoff game.

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding

Mike Vick is all goodness and light in Philly. Can you imagine the donnybrook if Dallas had signed him??

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know!

Was thinking of that myself. Can you imagine the storm that would have hit, particularly from Eagle fans, if the boys had signed him. As it is they are embracing him… But they would be screaming all sorts of stuff if we did it…

And can you imagine the media response… And yet when the Eagles sign him all the articles are saying, “give the man a 2nd chance, forgive and forget…” And when we had Tank…

For the record I DO NOT want Vick here.

by Chris in Va on Aug 29, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knew the shovel pass was such a fine art?

And that Vick was the master? Yeah, I don’t know about the rest of you’s guys but I sure don’t mind if he comes in and does that ten times a game on 2nd down. Maybe Fat Andy wants Vick to set some kind of candyass completion percentage mark so he can be proclaimed a “genius” who helped Vick realize his true potential.

by MadMick on Aug 29, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do like that Andy Lee drinking game -

repost From Here
1. One shot if the broadcast plays the clip of Titan’s punter A.J. Trapasso hitting the scoreboard.

2. One shot if the broadcast plays a clip of Andy Lee hitting the scoreboard with a punt during pre-game warm ups.

3. One shot for every time the broadcast cuts to a shot of Jerry Jones just before an Andy Lee punt

4. One shot for every time Andy Lee punts the ball into the scoreboard.

5. One additional shot if the 49ers coverage team didn’t even bother to pursue the kick knowing it was going to hit the scoreboard.

6. One shot if the broadcast cuts to Jerry Jones’ uneasy face after Andy Lee punts the ball into his scoreboard.

7. Two shots if Coach Mike Singletary looks amused with Andy Lee punting the ball into the scoreboard.

8. One shot if any broadcaster makes an analogy between the new Cowboy Stadium and the Death Star.

9. One shot if Andy Lee is interviewed on the sideline during the broadcast and asked about punting the ball into the scoreboard.

10. One shot if any 49ers fan is spotted in the broadcast wearing an Andy Lee jersey.

11. Dallas punter Mat McBriar will be shot for hitting the scoreboard.

 

Update:

Thanks Fooch for the addendum of taking one drink instead of one shot, if you’re not a hardcore drinker and want to be conscious before halftime.

In light of the new “Dallas do over” rule I thought it was appropriate to add one more rules to the list. (can also be called the “Jerry Jones is Roger Goodell’s daddy rule”)

12. One shot (or drink) if the broadcast explains the punt “do over” rule to the audience.

One last thing, note to opposing punters, everytime Andy Lee hits the scoreboard your coverage teams have to replay the down. This is a win for the return team

by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

whats all the warm and fuzzies for the niners?

You haven’t seen the bloody f’ing ‘catch’ a million f’ing times?

You don’t remember the sanctimonious snooty fans and their ‘genius’ coaches Walsh and Seifert?

What about Merton Hanks and that small head of his bobbling at the end of his long neck everytime he celebrated fouling our WR’s without penalty.

To paraphrase Samuel L Jackson " I hate the niners, and I hope they rot in hell’.

by alanTdot. on Aug 29, 2009 2:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

eh its preseason and nostalgia time

it’d be different if this game weren’t really a big audition

by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

True dat

Still have a lot of hate for the niners, but those battles in the 90’s were great.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 29, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duck Neck!

Duck Neck was not popular in our house….

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you ever ask Merton....

….How a pez dispenser knocked up his mom?

by MadMick on Aug 29, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since Dallas is "America's Team"

I’d bet at least 25% of all NFL players were Cowboys fans growing up.
  
I remember back in the 90’s I read an article (I think in Sports Illustrated) that said Cowboys merchandise accounted for 25% of ALL NFL Merchandise. That is an astonishing figure.

by MrScary on Aug 29, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it was the Raiders when I was in school

In the late 80’s, everybody wanted to look like Easy-E, even the white kids.

by JimmyJohnson on Aug 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got my first Cowboys jacket in 1980

My brother got a Steelers jacket. Between us we now have 11 rings.

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Donnybrook

is a good word. Hell, it would only take until T9’s 1st red zone pick for a QB controversy to be cooked up and ran on BSPN (over and over) complete with my favorite player Anonymous Source’s thought on it… Ed Werder would still be changing his pants now if we had signed Vick…

by goldnboi7 on Aug 29, 2009 2:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Oh, and I think the reason there’s some love for the Niners is that some of us are too young to even remember the 80’s, when the rivalry was more tilted their way…we pretty much had them in the 90’s…same way newer Boys fans don’t feel much hate toward the Steelers, while blue star vets still seethe.

I say the heck with em all tho…Niners, Steelers, all 3 East teams…I even got some hate left over for the Cardinals lol

by goldnboi7 on Aug 29, 2009 2:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

That is why they are the Most Classless fans, Anywhere

That’s pretty bad. And if you read the comments, most of them like the picture.

Makes me hate them even more.

by MrScary on Aug 29, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not surprising

Ron Mexico got a standing ovation when he made his appearance in the game Thurs.

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The saints are putting on a clinic. They are 4 deep at WR and Drew can flat out QB.

We will need every bit of our Ball control offense for them. We dont need a shoot out with them.

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

it's the Raiders dood

Their offense has been legit for awhile now. Where has that gotten them?

by sublimezg on Aug 29, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same place as us, oh no wait, the NFC championship game.

Its even better. I live outside of N.O. so I get to see them. Their D just got another turnover. Its the Raiders but keep an eye out for them

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So are the Cards' and Raiders' defenses just that schiddy?

Or are the Packers and Saints just that explosive? Yeah, I can easily see the Cowboys getting outgunned in a shootout with either of these teams because of having to settle for field goals after moronic drive-killing penalties. At least the Packers run D still seems pretty suspect and even if they have a much more effective pass rush, I don’t imagine their run D will be all the way fixed so easily just by changing their scheme.

by MadMick on Aug 29, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Saints ripped a new ass in Texans last week.

I think Brees is that good. I’ll probably get tarred and feathered for this but the Saints offensively remind me of the 49ers on offense( not the talent level or being that good) but from the stand point if you make a mistake its 7. 3 mistakes and its 21. Their D isnt top notch but they are touting turnovers and have been getting them. Dont be surprised if the win the NFC south.

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's them or Atlanta in the South

Training Camp '09 = Mega Thunder Dome....80 men enter, 53 men leave.

by APerfectStar on Aug 29, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or even Carolina

It’s another rough division.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO is going to be very good on offense, no doubt about that

But if the Cowboys play the kind of defense they should be able to and stay away important injuries, there’s no reason to be afraid of them. For all his faults, our HC/DC can put together a defense. Put some serious pressure on Brees and he’ll come back down to earth.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to do that while chewing up the clock.

I got a story you guys might remember. When Payton left the Cowboys for the Saints many wanted to keep him. He went on and had that great 1st year. Everyone was whooping and hollering how we should have kept him. The following year he struggle. Injuries and teams had adjusted to his offense. Last year his offense was much better but injuries to his D kept them out. This year i keep hearing how he is the best play caller in the NFL.

My point to this story is Garrett has follwed theese footsteps to a tee in his 1st 2 years. He has a QB where Brees was a year or 2 ago. He has a bunch of WRs that have shown toughness and the ability to get open. Im hoping that Garrett is on the same learning path as Payton. Garrett if he is what we thought he could be should start showing some serious signs this year.

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm, interesting point.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 29, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember the playoff game before the Saints went up to lose to the Bears,

I cant’ even remember who the Saints beat, but they closed the game out by controlling the ball for the last 8 full minutes, if I remember correctly. Chewed up the clock and spit it out.

I’d like to see some of that this year when the situation calls for it.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Aug 29, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we doing the opposite?

we are controlling the game at the beginning of the game, I dont know should I cheer or be concerned about it. It would be nice to score quick TD’s and than control the game, but I just dont see it this year

by dcfanz on Aug 29, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the opportunities for big strikes will still be there.

Ball control sucks in LBs and Ss. We may not take as many big shots but we shouild have a better success percentage.

Having said all of this talk about ball control and watching it in preseason I wouldnt be the least bit suprised to see us open it up. I think we still can easily. I want to see us do both. I want to dictate the game, dammit.

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Dallas is going to have a really hard time chewing up the clock this year

Seriously, I think there is so much fire power on offense, it will take a very concious effort not to score pretty quickly. Are you going to tell Felix to kneel on the 1?

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right, but look at the titans game,

our first two drives were 8 min 15 plays or so, unless we play really vanilla offence

by dcfanz on Aug 29, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

our Offense is pure ball control

Between Witten, Bennett and Roy Williams, Marion Barber and Felix Jones, we will be getting 8 yards a play. I think with the attitude changes I see and the mental discipline Romo seems to be working on, I can imagine a lot of 20 drive plays ending in TDs.

This team is going to chew chew chew. I don’t think Felix will get a TD like lightening strikes, but if he did I’ll take it

by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I posted right above you without reading your post.

To answer your question, only if I want to run out the rest of the clock.

Im mean, nasty, and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm, and I can put a round through a flea's ass at 200 meters. So you go and hump someone else's leg mutt face, before i push yours in. Gunnery SGT Tom Highway

by squidlo97 on Aug 29, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

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