Pre-Season: First team performances NFC East
We all know that the pre-season performance isn't any indicator of regular season performance. The 2008 Lions are the best example of that, going 4-0 in pre-season and ending up 0-16 in the regular season.
However, at the very least, the performance in the three games so far provides an indication of what the teams need to work on over the coming weeks until the regular season kicks off. In part, the pre-season is what it is because teams are knocking off the rust on their starters, play mostly vanilla schemes, and use the games to test out the 2nd and 3rd stringers.So looking at W-L columns and general stats is meaningless.
BUT: Teams do play their 1st teams for some parts of the pre-season. Over the course of three games, enough data accumulates to make looking at how the first teams performed worth it, and may provide some interesting food for thought. In the following, I'll look at the performance of only the starters/first teams over the past three games.
Quarterbacks: Let's start with the QBs. Statistically, the starting QBs are the easiest to assess. All starting QBs in the NFC East are known (and for now I'll assume its McNabb in Philly :-) and their performance is easily tracked:
STARTING QB Pre-Season Passer Rating, NFC East
| QB |
ATT |
CMP |
YDS |
CMP% | YPA |
TD |
INT |
RATING | 08 RATING |
| T. Romo |
47 | 33 | 353 | 70.2 | 7.5 | 1 | 1 | 90.1 | 91.4 |
| D. McNabb |
61 | 37 | 424 | 60.7 | 7.0 | 2 | 1 | 85.7 | 86.4 |
| J. Campbell | 35 | 17 | 257 | 48.6 | 7.3 | 0 | 0 | 73.2 | 84.3 |
| E. Manning | 34 | 18 | 184 | 52.9 | 5.4 | 1 | 1 | 66.3 | 86.4 |
While Romo's and McNabb's ratings are virtually identical to their 08 numbers, Manning and Campbell are lagging somewhat. Perhaps the WR situation in NY is already coming through in Manning's numbers, and completing 9 of 21 passes for 90 yards in his last and longest outing against the Jets (ranked 28th in pass defense last year) leaves a lot of questions unanswered. But then again he might just be preoccupied right now. After all, being the richest QB in the NFL, you have to give a lot of thought to making wise investment decisions. I know I would find it hard to focus on anything (like my job) if somebody gave me a contract for even 1% of his.
Campbell on the other hand, after stinking up the joint in his first two appearances (completing only 1 of 7 passes for 10 yards against the Steelers) turned in a nice performance against the Patriots over three quarters, going 13 of 22 for 209 yards.
Defense: Here I'll look at the team performance on drives when most or all of the first-team defense was on the field.
FIRST TEAM Defense Pre-Season performances by drive, NFC East
| Team |
Drives |
Points allowed |
Points allowed per drive |
Equivalent Points allowed per Game* |
| Cowboys |
14 | 16 | 1.1 | 13.7 |
| Giants |
14 | 34 | 2.4 | 29.1 |
| Redskins | 14 | 37 | 2.6 | 31.7 |
| Eagles | 16 | 48 | 3.0 | 36.0 |
* Equivalent Points per Game: The average number of drives per game is about 12 in the NFL. Multiplying the points per drive with 12 gives an indication of how many points the teams would have given up with their pre-season performance over 4 quarters in one game.
Philly, NY and Washington were ranked 4,5 and 6 last year in points allowed, and widely and rightly touted as some of the toughest D's in the league. But in the pre-season they've been giving it up easier than the cheerleaders did at my high school. Add to that the FA acquisitions, and these numbers must be worrying for the Defensive Coordinators around the NFC East.
The coaching staff must be particularly worried in Philadelphia right now, and Stewart Bradley out for the season is not helping one bit. Right now, with all the recent changes there, no one in Philadelphia has any idea how their defense is going to perform in the regular season.
Now you could always argue that the pre-season opponents also played a role in these numbers, Philly did have to go up against Peyton, Brady and Jacksonville, Washington against Big Ben, Brady and Baltimore (NYG: CAR, CHI, NYJ), but these defenses should have been good enough to come through even against the big names who, by the way, were also playing pre-season games. Of note, the Redskins had an interception returned for a TD, strictly speaking this should not be put on the defense. Without that TD, the Redskins would rank second with 25.7 equiv. PA per game.
Dallas on the other hand did have a slightly softer schedule on paper, and the defense looked a lot more ready for the regular season than the other teams'. But then again, it's pre-season, it don't mean nothing.
Offense: Same exercise for the Offense.
FIRST TEAM Offense Pre-Season performances by drive, NFC East
| Team |
Drives |
Points scored |
Points scored per drive |
Equivalent Points scored per Game* |
| Cowboys |
11 | 31 | 2.8 | 33.8 |
| Redskins |
12 | 24 | 2.0 | 24.0 |
| Eagles | 18 | 33 | 1.8 | 22.0 |
| Giants | 15 | 20 | 1.3 | 16.0 |
For all those who have been worried about the long drives the Cowboys have had in the pre-season, rest at ease. If we continue to convert at the rate above, everything will be just hunky dory. Add to that the fact that Nick Folk missed 2 field goals and got a third negated by a stupid, stupid, stupid penalty, the picture would look even brighter.
We all know that the Philly O-Line has been hit hard in pre-season with injuries, and their projected starting line-up has yet to play a snap together this year. I'll assume that the Eagles are just not yet clicking on all cylinders and would be surprised if they wouldn't once again have a good offense, barring injuries.
The Redskins surprised me somewhat, but it looks like a second year under the same coach and system might just be what the doctor ordered for Campbell. And clearly, they are the sleeper in a division that is wide open, could end up exactly the opposite of all pre-season predictions, and will likely be decided on injuries. Laugh all you want, the Redskins will be in contention.
The Giants clearly have a lot of homework still to do, and I'm sure they're taking a long, hard look at how they can strengthen their offense (Matt Jones, anyone?)
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Overall, the Cowboys first teams looked in good early shape against admittedly soft opposition. And I'm sure the other NFC East teams will turn up in good shape for their openers. Let's just hope for the Cowboys that this good early form translates into the season. And while the other teams are off working hard to improve, here's to the Cowboys not growing complacent and continuing to take it one practice, one play, one drive, one game at a time.
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Nice use of stats
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Premature posting...
I hate when that happens.
I was going to add a caveat that while the statistical breakdown was relevant, I don’t think that you can project them to “full game” accurately, like with an ERA. Too many times, a 1st Qtr run by one team is negated by a defensive scheme change or the game situation.
Still, interesting stuff.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
agree fully
but a number like 2.2 points per drive means nothing to me. Easier to conceptualize as a per game figure even though it is an incorrect projection.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 31, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Premature posting... understandable Fighter15...
it was your first, you were excited, it happens
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Good stuff!
Maybe losing their DCs has had an impact.
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That's what I'm thinking
it’s going to take a while for both Philly and NYG to work out all the kinks with their D Coords. That should correct itself as the seson progresses.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Football is more mental
Football isn’t just physical, its much more of a mental game. I wouldn’t consider many of the NFC East Defenses last year to be extremely physical, but they had great coordinators. It will be very interesting to see how all of the defensive muscle for the giants and eagles works with a different brain (AKA Defensive Coordinator)
Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!
by ProBowlFactory on Sep 5, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions
good read
only so much you can read into it for a variety of reasons, but I’d rather be in the position we’re in than on the other end of things.
I agree completely.
But it is interesting to sift through these numbers. Nice post OCC.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Nice look at the stats...
When you look at our schedule: Oakland, SF, Tennessee, it’s easy to say we had a softer road. But that’s really only true for our defense.
Oakland and SF are wanting on the offensive side of the ball, but their defenses are supposed to be good. Tennessee lost Haynesworth from a very good defensive squad, but still has considerable talent.
Here’s a quick look at Oakland / SF / Tennessee defenses in their preseason first quarters (I kept it simple, not knowing which teams/opponents played starters into the 2nd quarter.)
Oakland opponents 1st quarter:
Cowboys: 7
49ers: 0
Saints: 14
Look out for the Saints? (I still would like revenge for the loss to NO in Parcells’ final year) Oakland’s D is supposed to be decent?
SF opponents / 1st quarter:
Broncos: 0
Raiders: 0
Dallas: 0
Impressive … Of course, the Cowboys did their damage in the 2nd frame here.
Tennessee opponents / 1st quarter:
Buccaneers: 0
Cowboys 7
Browns: 0
Not a bad stat sheet for Tennessee… but for a top AFC defense, Romo and Co. lit ’em up.
Stats are questionable, preseason isn’t about points, but it all leaves me feeling our offense is legit.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
well said Luke
I didn’t even think about looking at those numbers, and simply went with the popular perception that our opponents were ‘soft’.
Lesson to self: Check the facts before making blanket generalizations.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 1, 2009 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow we are owning the preseason
Here’s to owning the regular season!
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5
Enjoyed the article, but...
The Giants defense gave up 80 points en route to starting 0-2 in 2007. Spagnuolo then made some changes (namely moving Tuck and Strahan inside, with Kiwanuka and Umenyiora playing defensive end in passing situations), and the defense grew as the season progressed. A Super Bowl chamionship ensued.
In Philadlephia, Reid benched McNabb in week 12 (a 36-7 loss to the Ravens), with the Eagles falling to 5-5-1 in 2008. This happened on the heels of the infamous statement from McNabb, admitting that he did not know the NFL rules as they relate to tie ball games the week before against Cincinnati. The Eagles finished 4-1 (oddly enough losing to Washington 10-3). Philadelphia’s season ended in the NFC Chamionship game.
The preseason, and the numbers accrued during August mean nothing. Successful teams improve as the season grinds on. Dallas has failed to improve as the season has progressed throughout this millenium.
I agree that Dallas is prepared for the start of the season. Under Wade (7-1 in September), this has always been the case. The true test for this team, and all other teams, is how they will perform in December.
Statistics in August will have no prognostic value for that. Unfortunately, I cannot think of anything that will.
rather be here than there
you’re right in general that preseason performance and record don’t correlate to seasonal and postseason success, and many things can change how a team plays over the course of a season… at the same time, at this point in time, looking just at the first team, I would still much rather be our situation than on the other end of it, generally executing well on both sides of the ball. They have to continue to improve through the season, but at least they seem to be off to a promising start. Next week it will count and what they did in preseason doesn’t actually matter, but for now, I’ll enjoy feeling hopeful based on what I saw!

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