Cowboys Camp, Morning, Day 11: Dodging Injury Bullets
by Rafael Vela on Aug 8, 2009 11:43 AM CDT
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MRI results are awaited but it appears cornerback Mike Jenkins may have escaped a serious, long-term injury this morning. He lingered on the turf on hands and knees for a couple of minutes after a passing drill and finally walked off the field unassisted, though slowly and with little ability to put weight on his right foot. He spoke to a trainer on the far sideline and was quickly driven from the field on a cart.
Initial reports speculate a high ankle sprain. These can linger, but most importantly, they can be overcome with proper rest and rehabilitation. We'll see what the medical folks say.
The injury came just minutes before the end of a ragged morning workout in shirts and shorts. The team looked a bit sluggish after a fast-paced full pads afternoon session yesterday.
Dallas again began with special teams drills and resumed the work it started yesterday with punts. The focus today was on returns, and after several minutes of mini-group drills the team went 11-on-11, with Mat McBriar punting to several different returners: Terence Newman, Felix Jones, Patrick Crayton and Willie Reid. The team used several different punting formations and several different return setups.
The defense then began lots of individualized drills. The linemen worked on their hand usage and avoiding being hooked inside on outside runs. The linebackers worked on pass recognition and on switching coverage on tight ends and backs. The corners and safeties also worked on switching off on WR route combinations and on pattern recognition.
The offense added some more plays to the Felix Jones packages, and worked more on rollout passes and work out of two tight end sets.
The team took a break and then resumed work on punt coverage and returns. Later, it had two 11-on-11s where the offense continued its work on blitz recognition and pickups. Jason Garrett sprinkled a few runs into the mix, but worked mostly on passing plays.
Scrimmage Notes:
-- John Kitna makes an appearance. He's been erratic in the previous sessions, but today, Jon Kitna started to show some confidence in his receivers and in throwing the ball down the field to his primary targets. He completed two deep outs into very small passing windows. Both passes went to Kevin Ogletree, who tiptoed just in bounds each time.
-- Don't be so quick to dismiss Patrick Crayton. Miles Austin has clearly improved, but number 84 is mister steady. He continued to make plays today, the highlight a long bomb from Romo behind backup left corner Courtney Brown.
-- It was a tough day at the office for Brown, who was also burned deep by Miles Austin. Brown makes plays, but there's a significant dropoff at this spot from Terence Newman to him.
-- Romo and the receivers had a hot-and-cold day, with Romo missing on some throws and with Roy Williams and Sam Hurd dropping a couple. Romo does show confidence in his guys the other QBs lack, and that confidence was twice rewarded with huge plays.
Early in the final session, Romo threw a deep seam to Martellus Bennett, who was bracketed inside and out by Brown and Gerald Sensabaugh. Bennett reached high with his right hand and speared Romo's throw. Aquaman left Sensabaugh shaking his head as he raced into the end zone with the ball.
Later, Romo zipped a daisy cutter to his right towards Sam Hurd, who made a sliding 18 yard catch between Brown and Alan Ball.
Brown was the target, but he and his safety mates actually provided solid coverage on these plays. Romo's receivers made the type of plays this offense lacked last year. Cross your fingers and hope for carry over next year...
after you light your good health candle for Mike Jenkins, of course.
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I heard it’s more of the 1-2 week variety… starting team still intact for game 1 :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I've never had one, but since we're talking tendons/ligaments and not muscle...
you are absolutely correct… why would they classify it as day to day if it is a groin injury?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
You can have a minor strain and be
day to day. It’s all about severity.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
DeAngelo Smith
When he was drafted, many reports had him moving into the punt return role for the Cowboys. If he isn’t being used as a punt returner at this point, that isn’t a good sign for Mr. Smith making the roster.
I think if, if, if Mickens does have more speed He will need another year to be 100%
It often does take a full year to get back, even though you can play sooner, this maybe a blessing in disguise if it allows us to stash him on IR.
Mickens is not making the team...
I’ve been following him for days and everything there saying about him is not good…If Jenkins is out for an extented period of time I believe you will see Ball play, but don’t be too sure it will be the slot…He may play the outside and keep Scandrick where he is at.. BTW….McCallister would be a good pickup.
No surprise on Newman, like Stanback is injury prone…really disappointing to say the least…this could linger like his last injury for a long time..
Thank god it does not look like a long term injury
With about 5 weeks to go before the season begins, jenkins has time to heal that high ankle sprain…Assuming thats what it is
Hey, if he has to miss two to three games, so be it
I want to avoid the repeat of last year, where a guy like Newman rushes back, reinjures
himself and misses 10 games instead of 2 or 3.
It’s a long season. If they can’t beat Tampa Bay without Mike Jenkins they’re not as good
as we think they are.
At this point,
would you expect Ball to be the nickle corner? Brown and Mickens seem as though they’ve been terrible, and Ball was serviceable in the dime last year.
by Mandmeisterx on Aug 8, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
I was thinking if it is high ankle he will return week 3
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whoooa
Last year Hurd and Miles had the same injury and u see what happen to them last year. It can linger with Jenkins this whole year if it does not heal properly. I just hope he wont try to rush things. Jenkins need to work on 100% recovery and not worry about scandrick taking his postion.
candle lit.
"Let us so live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain
I absolutely look forward to torturing other teams
with this:
Early in the final session, Romo threw a deep seam to Martellus Bennett, who was bracketed inside and out by Brown and Gerald Sensabaugh. Bennett reached high with his right hand and speared Romo’s throw. Aquaman left Sensabaugh shaking his head as he raced into the end zone with the ball.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
and this:
The offense added some more plays to the Felix Jones packages, and worked more on rollout passes and work out of two tight end sets.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Romo and roll-outs
makes me smile.. Romo is killer on the move.. He is good in the pocket, but great on the move.. Teams want him in the pocket.
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And having two weapons
like El Gato and Beans to add to Witten and a fierce running back set… man.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
No more "Brady style"
He’s not Brady, and has different skill sets. He’s best when his creativity and mobility come into play. And hold onto the ball!
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 8, 2009 8:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
+1 AGREED
There is more then one way to get it done.. Romo isn’t a running QB, but he is mobile..
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High ankle sprains
Depending on how bad it is could be 1-2 weeks, or it could be 4-6 or even up to 6-8 weeks
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
The high ankle ligaments
Anterior and Posterior Tib/Fib
Also I wonder about the syndesmosis
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
why do they call it a high ankle sprain
when really it affects the ligaments of the Tibia and fibula, not really the ankle at all?
In Romo we Trust
here’s a nice illustration explaining the high ankle strain
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 8, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, I looked
AND THERE WAS NOTHING NICE ABOUT IT!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
A person usually injures them
When they step on another person’s foot, causing the ankle to turn in
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Thanks Mullin
the shorter the time the better, but make sure it is healed before bringing him back.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 8, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand.
I thought injuries weren’t possible so long as there was no tackling taking place.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
nobody said that smartarse
we said serious injuries are more likely to happen with tackling and we have yet to have a serious injury. People can sprain their foot and ankles walking down the street.
In Romo we Trust
Not a complete disaster
We have 2 competent CB’s – the weakness will be in the slot.
The 3 places we can’t have an injury are NT, Ware, or O-Line. We have absolutely nothing behind those starters.
so much better than DallasCowboys.com
Congrats to BTB…this reporting is so much better than what the team website provides. Getting information about the actual injury and the anticipated severity is nice. Not to mention the general camp reporting here has actually covered the football on the field whereas most of their articles are focused on a particular player each day. I wonder if DallasCowboys.com would consider just firing their 3 bloggers and linking to BTB instead.
Ive been following both....BTB is doing great on there right ups....
If you don’t have twitter than you need to get it because DC.com Bloggers do a LIVE play by play via Twitter every day….My Blackberry explodes during the sessions with the play by play…good stuff…they even do live Q & A sessions during the practices…They also cover the interviews on Twitter…
The key
is access. Raf, Grizz and the rest do all of this without special access that those guys get as “media”. Imagine if they let these guys get the VIP passes, access to players and coaches, etc.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I had it last year.
It’s fun, but I can do without it.
Excited to see what Martellus can do this year.
I think early on he will make some big plays when teams are still giving Witten all the attention.
OK
Thanks to Raul, there is a PayPal / CC donation to help TarheelPaul defray expenses to the game. I know not everyone is in a position to help out and that is of course cool, but if you can, even a little bit, it would be more than appreciated.
I now return you to training camp discussions…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Thanks Dunk
but the your link above doesn’t work for me. The original fanpost comment by Raul contains a link that did work, at least for me.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 8, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that sucks
But thanks for catching it.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Have mickens and d.smith really been that awful?
If so, that’s a shame, but i could swear i heard some other sports guys(i think it was the dc.com boys) talking them up. One of em even refered to mickens as “sticky mickens”.
What’s the true skinny on the rookies from u of cinn?
Hawkins looked good early, but that brused knee has kept him side-lined.
May have done him in, IDK.
Ball may see a lot of playing time,
he’s been showing up at safety and is running 2nd team there.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
If we keep 10 DB's,
the odd man out will be Pat Watkins, not one of the rooks. At draft day, the Cowboys said that DeAngelo Smith was the crucial piece to their draft, because he’d be able to play FS and CB (and I know they’re looking at him as a returner in the future). That would help disguise blitzes/coverages etc.
Mickens needs some time to work into shape again, and the Cowboys have shown the patience if they’re high on a guy, just look at our buddy, Stanback. I think they do like Mickens’ interception abilities.
I’m also thinking they’re going to give one more year to Courtney Brown since he’s working at CB again. But if Hawkins returns and does well maybe not.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
No bueno
an injury at our thinnest position..
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touche
Very thin.. can we make a move for depth??
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eagles just lost there rookie Te ingram to a torn acl..he is done
2nd acl tear in 2 years,, no wonder he dropped hard in the draft…team doctors were concerned with ingram heading into the draft
Bad news for him.
Ingram is a hell of a prospect. Bennett-like.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
yes
ingram is a nice prospect, its a shame for he guy…Eagles did bring in bennent for a workout before last years draft..I would say they made a mistake not drafting him. bennent is going to be a beast and I am thrilled we got him.
Three
and probably a whole horde more…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Here's hoping they continue to look on us favorably.
But if we bring back Pacman, they may sour on us.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Hope they don't bring him back 2 early
That usually leads to something else or an injuie could hamper him all year with proper rest
really strain groin seems like a couple of weeks issue
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"slight groin strain"
But there’s bad news about Terence Newman, although the Cowboys are downplaying the severity of his injury. We were told this morning that Newman was just resting for most of the practice. It turns out that he has a “slight groin strain,” according to coach Wade Phillips. Newman is also considered day-to-day.
Of course, Newman was considered day-to-day when he strained his groin early during last year’s training camp. He sat out the rest of camp and all of the preseason, missed the season opener and struggled for three weeks before getting surgery to repair a sports hernia. This strain is to the same groin (left).
“I don’t think it’s serious,” Phillips said. “It’s a slight groin strain and not what he had before. I feel comfortable there, but we’ll wait and see.”
Ugh..
Not sure what to think.. I wonder what Anthony Henry is saying to himself…
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Hold on,
there’s a bit of revisionist history there. When Newman injured his groin last year, Wade Phillips came to the podium and described it as “a significant groin injury.”
See here:
http://www.blueandsilverreport.com/2008/07/29/newman-a-significant-groin-injury/
Nobody was calling it day-to-day then. They backtracked a bit on the severity of the injury later, but it was called a tear then. Tears are serious.
Ahhh, a good example of what i posted about yesterday
how long did it take rafael to research wade’s comments from last year? probably not long.
Why double check what he said last year when you’re DMN? bend it a little to incite panic in the fans, or at least a lot of worry.
They’ll at least wait until romo throws a pic in a regular season game to tell you to start panicking.
No more conjugal visits for Newman!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I am always Leary ANYTIME Wade talks about an injury. He said Newman had some tightness in his groin and as a precaution they held him out of afternoon practice.
What Newman did not tell him is that the cheerleaders were right in front of him when he had that tightness in his groin.
Good news and bad news
According to DMN, it is a garden variety ankle sprain, not the dreaded high ankle sprain. Newman’s slight groin strain has me worried. Last year, didn’t his day-to-day groin strain turn into a sports hernia that cost him most of the season?
by JimmyJohnson on Aug 8, 2009 3:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
he's made of papier mache
He should live in a hamster ball packed with styrofoam until just before game time on Sundays.
yep
i’ve still got some bubble wrap from my move. I’ll send it to wade. seal tnew in it and glass encase him after that. “Break open on sunday morning.”
I'm gonna say again, TNew's been a warrior ... he doesn't deserve this frail moniker
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Yeah
Unfortunately, it seems that we really are still going to need to find another CB early in the next draft. Newman has routinely become injured it seems, and he certainly isn’t young. I’m hopeful for Jenks and Scandrick, but we have no depth behind that. Ball is alright, and everyone else is a question mark.
Newman
that guy just can’t stay healthy.. We are going to have be extra cautious
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Has Newman been seen eatting with Stanback.
Stanback should eat alone.
I find the harder I work, the luckier I get. Thomas Jefferson
Newman had been just fine up until the last two years. I wonder if he has changed his training, doing too much or something like that?
scandrick starter now?
anyone read tim macmahons blog the other day that said it’d be better to start jenkins instead of scandrick even if scandrick was slightly better than jenkins because it’d be to big a blow to jenkins physce? ive always thought scandrick was better than jenkins and wondered why it never really sounded like he was getting a fair shot at starting or how he hadnt won it outright already. i knew the first round status a had a little do with it but when i read that post, it all made sense.
i think now that jenkins will be out for some time (hopefully not too long), it will give the powers that be, an excuse for being able to start scandrick without damaging the “physce” of jenkins.
Maybe our resident doctor can chime in, but I wonder if some of these guys bulk up too much.
With speedsters like Newman it seems to always be hamstrings, groins-muscle pulls;
Sometimes I wonder if some guys don’t get too tightly wound, I mean literally, and the muscles strain easily.
I know they do a lot of flexibility too, but each player is different I guess.
McAllister anyone ..thats the chatter...
Just for insurance reasons…jenks will be fine nothing major…Newman should be ok but down the road who knows as history has shown
I am all for it, if the price is right.
We need depth..
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hmmm
Mcallister was washup last year. He"s skill was starting to decline. I remember watching him play last year i always had that Anthony Henry feel to him.
I'd like to think
this just gives the rooks more reps in camp and preseason.
We really need that cocky version of Jenkins on the field. I had high hopes for the new, more confident Mike Jenkins. I had a feeling about him. He’s been smothering receivers out there. Hope he comes back just as full of beans as he was before the injury.
Until then, get those rooks some reps. What this injury means is that we need two, not one, of the backups to step it up.
I was looking forward to most, in not all, of these rooks making the team. I’m starting to have some confidence in our scouting department, and these twelve newcomers seem like just what the team needed. Blue collar hitters and players.
When you consider the fact that someone like Watkins had all offseason to prepare for this, and doesn’t even seem like he saw it coming, and isn’t battling like you would expect to keep his roster spot, you have to pull for the rooks.
Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?
Jimmy Johnson
by Super Bowl Shuffle on Aug 8, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions
I know it is early
but, any word on who is the front runner for the QB job in TB?
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I could care less, but I have a fantasy draft next Sunday...
yeah, probably Leftwitch, but I wouldn’t start him unless you were desperate. That team is going to be a disaster.
just thinking week 1
Leftwich with that slow wind up.. Ware and Spencer should have a nice day..
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dallas needs to be careful and not look past TB to their home opener against the gints
one play at a time
one series at a time
one quarter at a time
one game at a time
one week at a time
A reason to worry?
Seem as if Jenkins will be gone for a while ,Newman seem to have a slight groin tear so what is there to do. There leave two options. Option 1 some players can be moved to play other postions.
For example Sensi can be moved to the slot( they say he is that flexable he playd that some in Jacksonville too), Mike hamlin can get the start at SS, and there will be a open battle for Newman spot until he get healthy.
Option 2 free agency or trade. I really cant think of any one I would bring in besides Pac Man. But unless there is an act of congress i dont feel Jerry will bring him back. Alot of the other Db’s out their are old wash up has beeens who are no better than Henry.
We have depth at corner butt i wouldnt call it quality depth yet. Might have another coming of age tale this year.We have Ball and also do not forget Mickens and Deangelo, will the dynamnic dual emerge again?
Uh, it appears both players will be ready for the season opener
both are good.
Why the panic?
after last year it is somewhat understandable
not just the number of injuries, but the multiple cases where initial prognosis turned out to be wrong and return times grossly underestimated…
Because last year, guys were often not ready when they were supposed to be.
I’m guessing. Last year was so crazy with lingering injuries and injuries that seemed misdiagnosed or turned into other injuries, that it’s understandable that even minor injuries are considered possible season enders this year.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 8, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Dodging bullets is what it looks to be ...
Hopefully the rest of the team will stretch for a few moments longer, and all show up healthy for TB.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Terry ,that's pretty general
Personally, I would like TNew to take as much time to heal as he needs. These new guys need reps that he doesn’t. Give them the chance to built their confidence and feel for this team. There is no need to panic. I like alot of what I have been hearing from the boys at camp.[ really nice job BTW ]. We’ll get a better idea next week.
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