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Cowboys' DeMarcus Ware: 'I Hate Those New York Giants!'

DeMarcus Ware seems nothing like Shawne Merriman, the roid'y, sack-dancing, nightclubbing NFL Draft classmate with whom he is often compared. "No Tila Tequila for me,'' Ware jokes.

DeMarcus Ware seems nothing like Greg Ellis, the perpetually disgruntled former Cowboys teammate who he has effectively replaced. "I don't really pay attention to how he's doing in Oakland,'' Ware says pleasantly. "I'm more focused on what Anthony Spencer is doing.''

DeMarcus Ware seems nothing like Charles Haley, the fearsomely imbalanced Dallas legend who used to piss off (and on) people while wearing No. 94. When I inform Ware that women I know universally respond to seeing him by saying things like, "I'd just like to pinch his cheeks!'' ... Ware giggles innocently.

But if you want to experience just a bit of edginess and darkness with the Dallas Cowboys best player, do what I did. Ask him about this Sunday's opponent.

"I hate those New York Giants!'' Ware says.

Star-divide

There is so much about the personable DeMarcus Ware that is sunshine and lollipops, roses and rainbows. His view on the sometimes seedy relationships NFL players involve themselves in? "I'm married,'' he says. "Her name is Taniqua. She is the love of my life. She and (daughter) Marley, those are my baby girls.''

So, I say, there will be no internet vixens for you, eh?

"Yeah,'' Ware laughs, "I've told Taniqua to be careful with that internet.''

Ware has a kinder, gentler approach to finances, too. Well aware that Dallas fans are desirous of their Ware jerseys, but might be on a budget, he's set up DWare.com, where he's selling Ed Hardy-style T-shirts with DeMarcus-style themes. "Those jerseys can be like $180, and the Ed Hardy shirts can be almost as much, so we decided to do some shirts that are right about $30,'' says Ware, who is wearing one of his own designs. "Pretty stylish, huh?''

(Of course, one of these days, Ware will be upped from his present $1-million salary with an extension that might just make him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history. At which time he can afford to be even more stylish.)

And he is self-effacing in so many ways. He's lousy at Madden, can't play ping-pong, would be happy to shoot a 95 in golf, and is a little bit embarrassed by his defense's Week 1 performance in Tampa Bay, in which the Cowboys won 34-21 despite allowing 450 yards while recording no sacks and no turnovers.

Of course, maybe some of that was a result of Ware absorbing an early-game concussion.

"They basically give you a sobriety test,'' Ware says of the trainers' handling of him on the sidelines in Tampa. "You get memory loss. Even now, I'm afraid I'm going to forget my car keys.''

There is one thing Ware and the Cowboys cannot forget, however - and it probably explains why DeMarcus Ware hates the New York Giants: It was only 20 months ago when the Cowboys were at home, in the playoffs, a 10-point favorite, hosting the Giants, a seeming Super Bowl lock ... and it all went sour.

In the ensuing year-and-a-half, the Cowboys have battled questions while the Giants have become a "model franchise'' with a Super Bowl title as the proof.

While the Cowboys have experienced ups and downs, it's all been ups for the 27-year-old Ware. In his four seasons, the former first-round pick has recorded eight, 11.5, 14 and last year, 20 sacks. No player has ever officially recorded back-to-back 20-sack seasons. It's a goal, but ...

None of that, of course, compares to what his buddy Osi Umenyiora and the Giants have done.

Ware continues to be best friends with former Auburn High School and Troy teammate Umenyiora and knows that there will be plenty of time before and after Sunday night's home opener at Cowboys Stadium to be cordial, to be the DeMarcus Ware who isn't a Merriman, who isn't an Ellis, who isn't a Haley, who is worthy of having his cheeks pinched.

But for three hours on Sunday night? He says it to me one more time:

"I do,'' Ware says. "I hate those New York Giants!''

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Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. - Napoleon

by MadDawg03 on Sep 15, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

My First 1st

On Fish’s first article! Good stuff Mike. Keep it coming.

Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. - Napoleon

by MadDawg03 on Sep 15, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

D Ware's mean streak

I always wondered about that until last year and he still seems a bit too nice IMO. I’ve always liked the fact that Merriman had a chip on his shoulder and was a bit on edge. Still and all, D Ware is my boy!!!

BTW, I agree with Ware 150%, I hate the NY Giants and I happen to live in Brooklyn, NYC!!!

Cowboy fanatic ’till I die!!!!

by BK Arsonist on Sep 15, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

If Hollywood Henderson wasn't a changed man....

…..He could introduce Ware to the wonders of booger sugar. Of course the Manster was the meanest crazy sumbitch on those teams and he didn’t need any little white powder to amp him up.

by MadMick on Sep 15, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matchup of the week ...

on and off the field ….

Jacobs vs Ware

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Sep 15, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Im thinking Brookings vs Jacobs.

Of course, Jacobs real enemy is a education.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Sep 15, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he was talking about your typo

“a education” instead of “an education”. Just a guess.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm no genius...

…but I’m guessing or at least hoping it was entenchenal.

by MicThaRock on Sep 15, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're no

Norman Einstein, squid.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Sep 15, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

… but yer still funny

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe there is one more grammatical error

there should be an apostrophe for ownership on Jacobs (Jacobs’) as in the “real enemy belongs to Jacobs”

How’s that for 7th grade Language Arts?

by Kansas Cowboy on Sep 15, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, as long as we're counting ...

Im?
Also, it’s about time we learned to spell Keith Brooking correctly.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 15, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

tough crowd tonight.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Sep 15, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.

by Dub_TC on Sep 15, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Jacobs...

… did anybody see LaRon Landry throw the Big Mouth Running Back to the ground last Sunday?

I normally despise the Skins, but I had to laugh at that. And I love da fact that the refs didn’t call a penalty after it happened, because the play was clearly over — LOL!

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Sep 15, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice post.

D Ware seems like a cool dude.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 15, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Lay some smackdown on them, Ware!

Use the frustration of the TB game, plus all the BS that has happened since the playoff game and blast Eli and Jacobs and Bradshaw into next Tuesday. Four sacks anyone?

by mdlusk on Sep 15, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't picture DeMarcus Ware hating anybody

he always seems so happy and funny and smiling

by faenix on Sep 15, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

He’s living the dream, i would be happy too if i had his had skills!

by sfasu77 on Sep 15, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great story, Fish!

Knocked it outta the park just like Buehler does with his kickoffs!

It even made me want to pinch Ware’s cheeks.

The season begins in 3...2...Now!
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 15, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Man I love this rivalry!

Go Cowboys!!

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5

by Grady90 on Sep 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Ware=the best defensive player in the league

Sorry Troy, but you’re only second best.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 15, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

That wounded safety for the Stillers

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

See, Senor.....

Guess I’m a little slow today. I was thinking of Troy as in University. Gotta get the cobwebs out.

by texstar on Sep 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm...

1. Ed Reed
2. Polamalu
3. Ware…

by ManTab on Sep 15, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since they play different positions....

kinda hard to compare. Now, Reed and Polamalu a little closer. Who would you choose? I think it’s a toss-up.

by texstar on Sep 15, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to do.....

I went to see the game Dolphins Ravens lasst year in the playoffs and there was just no way to complete a pass near Reed. It was ridiculous to the point it was humilliating to the dolphins (to my delgiht!!!). And then you see a game like Polamalu had against the Titans before he got hurt and its also amazing.

Nothing like what we’re used to (the thong!!!!)…..

by ManTab on Sep 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree......

I was at the Cowboys-Ravens game-(groan). Reed is a beast. He’s amazing to watch when you see him in person-definitely not over-rated. Now, Polamalu is phenominal as well. Both guys are definitely ball-hawks.

by texstar on Sep 15, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Troy seems to take a lot of risks

Which occasionally lead to big plays for the other team. I haven’t watched Reed quite as much, but he that guy is amazing. I’d pick Ware over anybody pretty much due to age, but Reed or Asomougha (sp?) would be in the running too.

by ChrisRichey on Sep 15, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you notice that the Titans were actually TARGETING Polamalu in that Thursday night game?

The ball that Troy picked off was underthrown— if Collins had put some more air under it, that’s a potential touchdown.

From what everyone says, Polamalu has tremendous range and cover ability. But for whatever reason, the Titans were definitely throwing at him in that game.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta throw Bob Sanders in with them.

by thruthicknthin on Sep 16, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

The Colts were ready to cut Sanders a few weeks ago. The guy is never healthy. Can’t be elite from the trainer’s room.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 16, 2009 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reed is overrated

Ware is better than Troy because he has no weaknesses in his game, while Troy can be susceptible to the play action pass and get burned as a result.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

so ya think.....

Reed had 9 interceptions last year is over-rated? I don’t think so. You don’t remember Troy in the Ravens game or last week’s game? I wouldn’t call either one of them over-rated. If Spencer doesn’t pick up his play this year, then it will greatly affect Ware because he will be constantly double-teamed btw.

by texstar on Sep 15, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said Troy was overrated

I just said he was the second best defensive player in the league, I just happen to think Ware is better.

So what Reed had 9 INTs, that just means he’s a great ball hawk. He doesn’t excel in all other areas like Ware and Troy do.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 15, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder

if you do this on purpose, Terry, to antagonize others. Ware does have weaknesses in his game. He used to have substantial weaknesses… and if weren’t for Ellis teaching him how to use his hands, he’d be a 1 dimensional pass rusher.
Ware’s default rush is speed around the outside. I think one of his weaknesses is that if he’s tired or out of sorts, he doesn’t employ all the moves or handwork that he’s been taught in the past few years.

by Joey2zs on Sep 15, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said.....

all players have weaknesses in their games.

by texstar on Sep 15, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ware's a class act...

Like Jeter on the Yanks, he’s a guy you hate out of obligation although he really gives you no reason to other than killing your team.
Anyway, I’ll clear out of here but I just wanted to say here’s to a clean and injury free game on Sunday night… and may JerryWorld open with a crushing defeat!
Peace out guys, great blog/fans here.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Sep 15, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Great piece Fish

Ware represents what we all think an athlete ought to be but too many fall short of…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

but

would he be a good wingman when you’re out cruising for giggles? I don’t know.

by Joey2zs on Sep 15, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

I have a friend who’s friends with Ware and apparently he’s a very polite, nice young man— a good guy all around, just like his image.

Even cooler—his first taste of NFL money didn’t change him one bit so we won’t have to worry that the mother-of-all-contracts he’s about to receive will change him, either.

Beware the D-Ware on Sunday!

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Sep 15, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

bullentin board material for the NYG

hope it motivates D to have DW’s back on Sunday night

by angie'sdad on Sep 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?

He barely said anything. You get the feeling that he was laughing when he said it.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Living 20 miles from the Swamplands....

it’s been strangely quiet from the G-ant fans. In fact, the only talk you hear is Jet’s smack cuz the Pat’s are coming to town. This is very unusual cuz the G-ant fans are always running their mouths about America’s Team. I hope this is a good sign.

by Road Warrior on Sep 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Are they a bit worried perhaps?

Their team is the one with all the hype this season, while the Cowboys team is picked to finish 3rd or 4th.

I think I value having my team underrated, much more, after the 2008 season.

So it begins...

by APerfectStar on Sep 15, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

About as worried as we are

Most of my local friends are Giant fans and either have season tickets or go to most of their games… so this group knows their stuff.

And they know enough that a trip to Big D is always a dogfight. They tend to leave the pre-game trash talking to the Jet fans since they are so good at it. However, once the final gun sounds… then the trash talking begins.

That said, I don’t trash talk much either, since I’m the only Cowboys fan they will take to the game when the boys come to Jersey.

by Road Warrior on Sep 15, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever since Giants Stadium opened, the Cowboys have had their number

I’ve been to many of those games, and it just seems like the Cowboys usually find a way to leave with a win – even when they don’t necessarily deserve it.

Easily the greatest game: Emmitt’s separated shoulder game. Forced the Giants to play in the Wild-card round. That was the REAL Super-Bowl that year.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the games I've been to have been really close,

but I had the unfortunate pleasure of being there for last years game. Ugh. Didn’t matter to me, I just love going to see the boys play, but I loved the 2007 game there much better.

Nothing like walking out of that stadium giving high 5’s to other Cowboy fans and screaming in their parking lot.

Now that is SWEET.

I didn’t get to go to the one in ’93. That game was pretty much a playoff game in itself and was a classic.

by Road Warrior on Sep 15, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're actually 2.5 points favorites to win the game vs the Giants....

I wish I was that optimistic about that game. I’m petrified!!!!

by ManTab on Sep 15, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought it was 3

as well it should be since we’re playing at home, home teams always get 3 points just for that reason alone.

If the Cowboys play their game, they’ll win.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 15, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 3 is added on to a "neutral field" spread.

So the Giants are actually considered the better team – barely.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not petrified...

…just worried about the D.

Tampa Bay: 174 rushing yards, 31 carries, 5.6 yard/carry avg.
"What? Me worry?" ~ Alfred E. Neumann

by JimNFW on Sep 15, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

The feeling is mutual...

I got nothing but respect for the ‘Boys this year, they cut out the cancer and based off the first game that doesn’t seem to bother Tony one bit.

Good luck, as Simms said lets pray for no injuries, and I look forward to the game of the week in that beautiful new stadium Jerruh built for ya’ll.

Go Big Blue!

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 15, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Last few years this has been great football between these two clubs. Now if you could keep Jacobs quiet and we could shut Crayton up…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

and you know Crayton is just itchin’ to say something stupid…. again.

by Road Warrior on Sep 15, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

One less guy for Ware to deal with

Shawn Andrews out for the season

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

say hello to Winston Justice

I see philthy giving up record sack numbers this year

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Sep 15, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

unless they bring Runyon back....

which there are rumblings that may happen

by texstar on Sep 15, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they will

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand.

Only linemen as old as the Cowboys’ get hurt, I thought?

Seriously, though, that sucks for him. Hope he gets better.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 15, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

First thing I thought

When is ByeDawk going to stop putting Dalai-like curses on his team? LOL

So it begins...

by APerfectStar on Sep 15, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

BPS, excellent point ...

A-Perv… I’m keeping an eye on you!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome Fish

More gooder content makes more better blog

by Blammo on Sep 15, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Question for the group

What did you think of the above article, relative to the standard content here at the blog and also relative to what you can get at DMN, DallasCowboys.com, etc.?

There are two things I really love about Blogging the Boys (well, three things when you count the commenter community, but ignore that for now):

1) The best breakdowns of game tape, personnel, offensive/defensive schemes, etc. that I’ve seen anywhere. Anyone who has read a post from Raf lately knows what I’m talking about, but Aaron and Dave and the other contributors do a great job on this stuff too.

2) The outside perspective that our contributors have. The guys who right for this site are not insiders— they’re not beat reporters, they don’t have much in the way of athlete access (although the blog seems to have cultivated some scout and coach sources, which is GREAT), they don’t have to cowtow to players in the locker room to get quotes or worry about writing critically and losing favor with a player. To me, that outsider perspective and the freedom it brings is a big part of what makes the content here so compelling.

I bring this up because in the above post on the WareWolf, the most interesting part to me was this passage:

“…is a little bit embarrassed by his defense’s Week 1 performance in Tampa Bay, in which the Cowboys won 34-21 despite allowing 450 yards while recording no sacks and no turnovers. Of course, maybe some of that was a result of Ware absorbing an early-game concussion.”

That was great info. I’d love to hear more about Ware’s reaction to the defense’s performance on Sunday, how his injury affected his play, how the Bucs were game-planning for him, etc.

The rest of it? Eh. I can get that stuff on DMN or DallasCowboys.com. I’m very happy that DeMarcus is a good guy, don’t get me wrong…but it’s not what I come to this blog looking for.

I say all this not to denigrate our new contributor, Mr. Fisher, who’s clearly got a great track record and whose contributions I’m looking forward to. Instead I say all this because I think Mike should feel liberated in his new capacity here— liberated to write more freely about the team, without having to worry about the access that a beat writer needs, without having to worry about maintaining cordial relationships with everyone in the locker room if he writes something negative.

I think seeing a former beat guy leverage his unique contacts here will be an interesting new experience for BTB. As I said, I just hope that it’s able to be combined with that outsider freedom and dedication to non-fluff content that makes this place so great.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Personally, I don't go anywhere else for news anymore.

Its that good, for the reasons you listed as well as the different perspectives the members bring.

by Benthere on Sep 15, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta say

after a steady diet of steak and potatoes here on BTB, this piece came across as, well, cotton candy — sweetness with a lot of air.

But I am sure Fisher will get his blog legs soon and measure up to the BTB standards.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Sep 15, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, that was kinda my feeling as well Oskie

I’ll always favor on-field info versus off-the-field stuff. It’s why I find guys like Gene Wojieski (sp) and Rick Reilly at ESPN very boring.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

anything but Peter King

But really, I may have just started posting here in the last day or two, but I’ve been reading this blog for a few years now. Absolutely love the stuff, it went from a great blog to THE great blog when Raf and Raul came over. Love it!

by robolundgren on Sep 15, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like some variety, personally.

I value Raf and his hard work, but it’s nice to see other writers and their view points also. I’d like to see another contributor that does similar analysis, personally, to get multiple perspectives.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 15, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Tim Wilson, you are a great poster. It takes stones to criticize constructively our newest contributor.

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Sep 15, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank Hud

Not trying to stir the pot unnecessarily, just wanted to throw a perspective out there.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't all have to be hard hitting analysis, in my opinion.

I’ve seen people complain about posts that have links to Cowboys news, but I actually quite enjoy those. I liked this, and I like having a guy on board that has that type of access to players, because that’s hard for bloggers to get.

I like having several different contributors with different styles, personally. I enjoy Raf’s work, Dave’s work, Aaron’s work, and miss the work of many of the former contributors that we have had here.

I’m looking forward to seeing what else Mike can bring us, but I thought it was a pretty good start to show off access to D Ware. Maybe next post he can take him to task for not generating enough of a pass rush or something.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 15, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I come down in the middle on this question...

I like more “football related” content, but if you can mix the two, even better. If he had asked Ware to offer his thoughts on this last weekend’s game, and perhaps thrown in other football related questions, the article would be even better.

But honestly, half way through this article, I paused and thought “this guy can write.”

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with your middle though there, Luke

As I noted, the access to players is not inherently bad— it’s just bad when it leads to fluff for the sake of keeping the players happy. And I don’t get the sense that this was that kind of situation.

I just think I’ll personally be more excited in the future if there is a bit more probing done on the on-the-field stuff. In this case, that might’ve looked like the defense’s performance on Sunday (the post indicates that Ware was embarassed— how so?), how his injury affected him, whether he noticed any unique blocking schemes being directed at him, etc.

Again, I don’t at all mean to criticize Mike Fisher based off a one post track record, and clearly there is an appetite for this type of content on the board— just look at all the favorable comments posted above me. I just wanted to bat the idea around a bit of the difference between the content that I find totally unique to this blog, and the kind of stuff I think you can find elsewhere.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also,

You’re missing this key component to the equation… he can meet with players. I think that’s the point here.

As long as he doesn’t take himself seriously, can make me laugh, doesn’t have too many typos and doesn’t butcher the language… the more the merrier.

Tim… you can’t always have the filet. Try the fish!

by Joey2zs on Sep 15, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right...

…as I said above, I think access to athletes can actually be a negative, because writers can feel compelled to write generic or positive stories so that those athletes don’t get mad at them and they can maintain that access.

Really, the things athletes say are rarely insightful or very compelling content. Athletes today genericize most of their comments, and it’s much more likely for DeMarcus Ware to say “I’m just trying to focus on the team” or talk about his line of shirts than to say something like, “Yes, the pass rush really suffered with me not on the field,and when I came back in I didn’t feel like my usual self. I wasn’t able to beat their TE when singled up, and I thought Anthony Spencer struggled in the second half applying consistent pressure.”

DeMarcus Ware (or any other athlete) will never say anything close to that. And I completely understand why— it prevents the media from taking an out-of-context quote and victimizing them or painting them in a bad light.

But for me, it means that the stuff I read from outsider perspectives like the bloggers on this site is usually much more interesting than the stories I read which rely on athlete access.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're absolutely right.

When it comes to sports, I like reading the game breakdowns and analysis.

by Rickyy. on Sep 15, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim, if I were Fisher, I'd be pointing to this post as a reply to your original

As you state, it’s hard to get the players to go in-depth. Not only for out-of-context concerns, but also to minimize information for future opponents. Ware can’t be expected to point out his own potential weaknesses, or even to provide too much information on whether the injury affected his play.

With this in mind, the beat writers will rarely be able to provide in-depth football analysis based on player interviews.

Just playing the Devil’s advocate… but you do make Fisher’s case :)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree Luke

That’s why I don’t see much benefit in columns or articles based entirely around player interviews. That was the point I was trying to make originally.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's clear

that your tastes run more towards an academic discussion of the games… which is why this forum exists. But I’m also (somewhat) interested in the real guys who make up the team.
But… what I don’t want is super-sugary Cowboys’ marketing material about things like Terence Newman volunteering at a local park… instead, what I’d like to know is if Terence Newman volunteered at a local park and got there late that morning reeking of Veuve Clicqot, shame, and silicon… short of that, I’d like to know why he never makes interceptions and why he got scorched on that long pass play vs the Bucs.
I think that added dimension to this blog may just be the final element missing… except for perhaps film of plays that Raf dissects… PPTs slideshows of plays with Raf’s audio over top… etc…

by Joey2zs on Sep 15, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm laughing ... and crying at this post

First,

reeking of Veuve Clicqot, shame, and silicon…

hilarious

Second, if you watch that long pass, you can’t even fault TNew… he was all over the receiver (really, scorched doesn’t apply at all) … and Leftwich made yet another amazing throw.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I completely agree...

sometimes you just have to give credit to the other team… an amazing throw and an even better catch.

by Road Warrior on Sep 15, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perfect pass

T-New would have had a tough time getting to it without being called for contact or PI.

A better explanation is, you can’t give an NFL QB that much time to sit back and scan the field. Leftwich had no pressure at all on him.

So it begins...

by APerfectStar on Sep 15, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

But your last point is well-taken

Not every type of post will appeal to every reader. Certainly makes sense, and I wouldn’t expect anything different.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Sep 15, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this

as an addition to what is already going on here. More is better, and more perspectives are better than fewer.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 15, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

'xactly

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta say that my first impression was similar to yours, Tim.

Thanks for bringing it up.

But after reading Fish’s post again and all the replies to your original comment, I’m gonna land in the middle on this one.

As long as the post is well written/researched/considered, concerns some aspect of the Dallas Cowboys, and offers an interesting point of view, I think it belongs on BTB.

If someone prefers not to read this kind of article, they can always jump to a different thread.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Sep 15, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Been a Pokes fan forever.

Been a fan of DeMarcus since he was being scouted by the Pokes. I knew he was a good family man, and that he loves his wife and daughter. I knew he was an upstanding citizen, and all. But I never knew he was a cheek-pinching innocent soul. It gave me a new perspective that I previously didn’t have of DeMarcus. I found it to be just as informative as a breakdown of a complex blocking scheme. Good work, Fish. And Welcome!

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"

by White Wolf on Sep 15, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree completely

Give me more of this type of reporting in addition to the breakdown and analysis. I can’t stand how someone can report on leadership of our QB without any contact with teh players or observaction of practice. But when someone can actually observe adn talk to player and isn’t just trying to dig up or make up dirt it’s very welcome.

Welcome Mike can’t wait to hear your take on subjects such as how this current team really feels about the sharing of the wealth on offense. Does everyone really buy into this approach? How does MBIII feel about the three headed monster at running back?

by staubachfan on Sep 16, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree completely and my reaction was the same

Hopefully articles like this are maybe 10% of the content.

I’ve been dying to hear more about that hithe took. Did it effect his play or not? Not our conjecture, but from his or the coaches’ mouths.
   I saw the replay and the way he lay there for a moment with his arm stretched out dead behind him looked scary.

by Realist Larry on Sep 15, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a limit to what you can write...

… If you want to continue getting access… Like writing negative stuff or insider stuff…

Rafael has talked about this, about how he gets to know something due to his sources but how he’s asked to keep his fingers quiet…

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Sep 15, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Article, Topic on who is favorite i’m shocked we are favored in this game since Giants are favored to represent the NFC in the SB. I hope all enjoy the game.

Go Boys !!!

"Don't bring out the anointing oil just yet"...BP

by NYCBoyz4Life on Sep 15, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

we're not really favorites.....

I think when they give a 2.5 advantage to the home team, it means they see it as an even game….

by ManTab on Sep 15, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to know

that they don’t think the Giants will come and blow us out in our own stadium.

by Rickyy. on Sep 15, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

How can you be favored but not really favored. If home field is worth 3 points then it’s worth 3 points just like the value of an O or D or ST or coaching. What this really means is by giving Dallas 3 points Vegas sets them selves up to receive the most action on both sides. That’s all that means. A popular team and the amount of betting on that team will move the line as much or more than any analysis of who will win by how much.

by staubachfan on Sep 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

you actually add an excellent point ... teams like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers move spreads

… based solely on the number of people willing to take them at any spread.

But this only further supports the argument that Vegas likes the Giants a bit better. If the “neutral field” theory sets the spread 3 points below the stated number, then the presence of popular teams likely affects the spread an additional 1-2 or more points.

I remember reading that the Cowboys were one of those teams capable of shifting the numbers. Let’s say, for argument’s sake, that’s a 2 point shift. Throw in the 3 points for home-field, and Vegas actually likes the Giants better by 2.5 points!!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 16, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fish..welcome

I actually found DB.COM from here..Love the Boys and love your writing..

Go Cowboys

by bevomav on Sep 15, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

BTW, where's StillHateTheGiants?

He must be proud as a peacock right now!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 15, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I would hope EVERYONE on this team hates the giants

but especially those on the defensive side of the ball, the way jacobs runs his mouth.

by foyesboys on Sep 15, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Ooh,

i’d pay a million to punch that guy in the mouth.

by Rickyy. on Sep 15, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be prepared for a fist fight roma victa style!

I wish I could describe the energy in this new stadium. Even in the San Fran pre-season game, the energy was electric. The place makes you excited. And the players showed it.
The NYG do not know what they are walking into…we are going to stand up and bang!

by rotovibe on Sep 15, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

D-Ware is the man

Not just because he’s been a fantastic football player for Dallas and still ascending, but he sounds like a guy you’d love to have as a friend or neighbor.

So it begins...

by APerfectStar on Sep 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice Job Mike

Good story and information. A bit fluffy for my liking, but it’s only week one. Look forward to seeing what comes in the next weeks. Welcome aboard!

by oldboysfan on Sep 15, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

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