FISH on FOOTBALL Thursday Notebook: Are The Cowboys The Most Talented 'O' In The NFL?
by Mike Fisher on Sep 17, 2009 9:00 PM CDT
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Are the Cowboys the "most talented offense in the league?'' Can they make a statement about their ability to be superior to the Giants with a press of a button? Has the FOX Robot loosened up his hamstrings yet? We start there with BTB Thursday "FISH on FOOTBALL'':
All the good stuff after the jump...
THE MOST TALENTED OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE': That's Roy Williams' quote, not mine. Let it marinate for a moment. "We're the most talented offense in the league.'' Is that a stretch? I guess we need to see more of the Patriots. Peyton Manning's still in Indy. Arizona's 0-1 but not done. And there is some talent up in Minnesota. The Chargers? Oh, and maybe Roy's TV doesn't pick up Saints highlights. (That's the first season-opening game with a QB tossing six TD passes ever. Roy, check it out!) So. ... anh. It's too early to make such a judgment. But it's a fun opening-week confidence boost, and it's fun for the Cowboys to at least be in the conversation. ... Jay Leno was on the NBC Sunday halftime show with Bob Costas -- and Leno was easily the second-funniest of the two. ... Wade said his coaches made some halftime adjustments in Tampa to upgrade the run defense. (Mr. Fix-It!) D-Ware says it's just a matter of tackling better. (Shades of the Ravens at Texas Stadium?) All I know is that if Tampa's two backs can go for 174 and 6.2 per, hopeful tacklers of Jacobs and Bradshaw had better buckle their chinstraps. ... There is a get-on-a-roll opportunity just waiting for the Cowboys should they handle the Giants. Next on the schedule, Carolina, Denver and KC. Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but. ... Nonsensical hamstring-stretching robots, lame Burger King cartoons, a prediction segment in which Terry Bradshaw admits he gave his picks zero consideration. Hmm. The FOX pregame show is essentially 87 minutes of breaded stuffing and three minutes of Jay Glazer meat. Maybe the entire FOX pregame show should just run three minutes? ...
TERRY BRADSHAW IS TIRED ... IN WEEK 1?: Weird diatribe from Bradshaw during FOX's pregame show as he rode Brett Favre's ass. "I'm tired of it," Bradshaw said. "I am. My family's tired of it. We're all tired of it. I wish it would go away. I'll be glad when it goes away. . . . I'll be glad when he's retired and moved on because I'm really fed up with him.'' Two things here: 1, Terry you work for FOX and the NFC games are on FOX and if you are sick of Favre BEFORE the first game, the person who may want to retire is YOU. Because you are going to see a lot of Minnesota games this season. 2, Terry's "family is tired of it''? WTF? Terry, you are acting like this is the Bradshaw clan soliciting advice from Cousin Eddie as to why Hamburger Helper doesn't even need meat and is better than Tuna Helper. ... Most mangled sentence you will read in a major-metropolitan newspaper all week: "Who needs T.O. anyway? Seriously, has a team ever missed a petulant 35-year-old receiver with more baggage than Lindsay Lohan less than the Cowboys missed T.O. in their opener against Tampa?'' A jumbled mess, but you know what the biggest problem is? No, not the trite pop-culture reference. And no, not the confusing use of the words "more'' and "less.'' The biggest problem is the insistence on Terrell Owens being billed as THE NO. 1 GAME STORYLINE on the front page of a major-metro newspaper. Let me make you a promise: In this space, I'll spend no more time on Owens' status as an ex-Cowboy than I will on Roger Staubach's status as an ex-Cowboy. In the grand scheme of All Things Cowboys, who matters more? Let it go, media. Let it go. ...
LAUGHING AT THE GIANTS?: Laugh at the Giants receiving corps if you must, but Steve Smith actually has the pedigree to be a legit No. 1 receiver. Hey, they lost Plaxicident Burress to a "thigh pull.'' (He "pulled'' out the gun and shot his "thigh.'' Therefore, "thigh pull.'') And they removed the Toomer and they did it all because of their faith in Smith and company. And doesn't NYG usually make pretty sound personnel decisions? ... Tony Dungy is a gifted man. As a player, he both threw passes and intercepted them. He is a man of football and a man of faith. He is many things to many people, successful, versatile, gifted. But I think we've found the one thing he cannot do: TV analysis. Dungy was so bad it almost made me want more Tom Arnold ... Brandon Jacobs says of Dallas' home-opener at the new joint: "They should've put Detroit in there instead of us.'' I don't think Brandon understands that this isn't a high-school homecoming game in which the AD schedules some 8-man have-not program to bus into town. Of course, the same sort of fake-inspiration worked for the Ravens at the old joint, didn't it?... Raf is dead-on (as usual) as it regards Dallas' two-TE offense. What The 12 Package gets you: Mismatches in personnel and mistakes in coverage. Marty-B was on the field, split wide, on both the Crayton and Williams TD catches -and both of them lined up in the slot. Now Marty-B just needs to be more certain of where the hell he's supposed to line up (Twitter and YouTube don't offer much help in the "playbook department'') and Dallas has itself another unique wrinkle. ...
D-MOVING DeMARCUS: An X-and-O's prediction for the Giants game: Dallas moves D-Ware around more than it did in the Tampa Bay game. Ware is a chess piece who is going to beat somebody - Phillips needs to do a better in-game job of pinpointing that somebody. ... As with Emmitt before him, this is chicken-and-egg stuff for MB3. But for the record, the Cowboys are 27-4 when Barber records 11 carries or more. ... Speaking of Emmitt: I know he wants to stay in the spotlight. But I don't think being the national spokesman for barbecuing pork is the smoothest plan ... Todd Archer notes that the Cowboys have a decision to make, weather-wise, regarding the opening or closing of the roof. My view: Bad weather - rain and such - can be an equalizer that closes the gap between a superior team and an inferior team. In other words, if I think I'm better than you, I want the conditions to be dry, perfect, fluke-free. So if I'm the Cowboys, and rain is in the forecast, I make my claim to superiority by closing the roof. How about you? ... My spies tell me that last Friday, Tony Romo was at a high-school football game, Hebron at Plano. Now why in the world would the Cowboys QB spend his Friday night at a high-sch ... oh, yeah. And then I bet they went home and watched the TiVo'ed Channel 33 sports report, eh? It beats Karaoke contests and Barbie-and-Ken'' theme parties and chubby-chasing at the Wisconsin State Fair, right? All we can really judge Romo's pre-game behavior on is his in-game performance. Which suggests that Romo oughta go to another prep game this and every Friday.
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I'm the first
one to say leave the roof open if it’s good weather. I saw the Gnats play the Skins at home and I wasn’t impressed.
by jevans1729 on Sep 17, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This site just keeps getting better
Pretty funny stuff and some good info to boot!
by ChrisRichey on Sep 17, 2009 9:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'll Second this second...
Fisher, you’re in your element at BTB!!!
The collection of very different writers has just added yet another great addition.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
They all bring a different element to the table.
I love Grizz’s TC reports because it’s as close as I can get to actually going.
Raf’s analysis is second to none.
Aaron must know just about every random fact about the Cowboys by now.
I enjoy GD’s point of view and his style of writing.
Mike brings a bitter (it’s ok to be bitter) insider’s view and knowledge of every team in the NFL.
Keep up the good work guys!
by ChrisRichey on Sep 18, 2009 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good post
but honestly it doesn’t really “fit” with the BTB culture. Just my opinion.
by alienasia on Sep 17, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
especially given that FISH is an “insider.” So, less of the snarky commentary and more hardcore analysis and insider info would be better, in my opinion.
by rabblerousr on Sep 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gentlemen, relax...
The guy just gave us some insider with a Ware interview… he’s not allowed to get off the news desk, kick back, and give us something different? It’s not the same stuff as Grizz, Raf, Aaron & Co… but in the words of Parcells: “and that’s a good thing!”
Grizz is mixing it up, keeping the “culture” of BTB ahead of the pack … it’s buffett style, if you’re not in the mood for the sweet n’ sour chicken, move on to the pork chops!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the mix personally
great addition
by scottmaui on Sep 17, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's the snarkiness
Rather than thoughtful commentary. Guess I’m in the minority though.
by alienasia on Sep 18, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The snarkiness is thick, I'll grant you that...
And I don’t mean to come down so harsh (unless, of course, you say Romo is shaped like a pear)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you dont like the snarkiness
you always have the choice of not reading the post – unless i’m mistaken raf and grizz are not holding you at gunpoint forcing you to read it, are they?
by Elberraco on Sep 18, 2009 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but
Once I got a nasty email from squidlo. Does that count?
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 18, 2009 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you probably deserved it
btw, if there’s a vote… I’m all for snarky
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post proves a few things.
Namely that some people would be better off ingesting the industrial sized container of shut the ____ up. Terry Bradshaw, even if I agree with him to a certain extent, tops the list and followed closely by someone I never would of thought I’d say this about: Emmitt Smith. Great players, just lousy commentators. And what’s up with Roy Williams making ridiculous proclamations after one game into the season? Drink up fellas.
by Benthere on Sep 17, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fish...another good post.
Bradshaw was in a weird mood on Sunday. He even made a “rip” on Romo’s throwing accuracy…on a touchdown pass no less…
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 17, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo was off
He missed two other td’s that were right there and back hipped a couple slants and crosses that got deflected. nothing wrong with roy saying stuff like that.. nice to see a little confidence that doesnt start and end with demanding the ball.
31 till I die
by FelixFanclub on Sep 17, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...Romo was off most of the first half but that wasn't the comment...
I should have been more specific…Bradshaw’s comments were that Romo is consistently off…that is, he implied that Romo is not a very accurate passer…He critiqued that Romo “mis-threw” that Austin TD throwing to the back shoulder, when I’m pretty sure that was a planned throw. Bradshaw is sloppy, doesn’t prepare, and just blurts whatever comes to mind…or he just needs to wear glasses.
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 17, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I have to say he's been a bit off since he got hurt last year
the pinkie I mean. I felt the end of the year last year he was never the same.
At least as far as the standard he had set his first couple of years.
He looked a TON better from what I saw last week though.
by Realist Larry on Sep 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again...that's not the point.
Bradshaw was saying that Romo has never been an accurate passer. But I do agree with the injuries. I think the pinkie was the least of Romo’s concern…I really think he had internal injuries last year with how the line didn’t protect him. The New York game was a travesty…
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 17, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradshaws a Steeler ... what do you expect?
Romo gives Cowboys haters sleepless nights (how lucky is UDFA to league elite?) … add in that Bradshaw’s accuracy was wanting, and you see the jealousy picture emerging clearly.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
English Police: Bradshaw's
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
Bradshaw must never ever watch his old game tapes. Doesn’t he ever wonder why Lynn Swann had to make all those diving catches? Its not like Bradshaw and Swann got in the huddle and were like, “Let’s just run it so that you have to jump over a defender and make an amazing catch.” Bradshaw was a winner in the end, but he is a pot calling a kettle black in this case.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 18, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct on all counts
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 18, 2009 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aye, the green-eyed monster's whispering in Bradshaw's ear.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Sep 18, 2009 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little Off
R. Larry, Romo was a little off at the end of last season. But don’t you think it might have had something to do with the fact that he received a pretty good ding to his back in the first half of that Giants game then he got the living s%^$ beat out of him in Philly. Remember that back injury in the Giants game? Looked to me like he almost had to come out of the game. Yes, the Cowboys scored a couple of touchdowns in the 2nd half but that probably had more to do with draw plays & screens. Didn’t look like Romo was throwing it down-field much.
I wonder how much Romo’s health had to do with the way Garrett had to call plays after that Giants game? Romo’s hurting, plus Proctor’s play, does not make a good offense.
by geth13 on Sep 18, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Romo wasn't quite the same ... this O-line needs to buck up this year!
A healthy Romo is a deadly Romo
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually that was basically my point
you’re saying the same thing…..in more detail. He was hurt, he was a little off, so on
by Realist Larry on Sep 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's ironic Bradshaw criticizes another qb
for not being accurate. Having watched him in the 70s, there wasn’t a qb more inaccurate than Bradshaw as Swann and Stallworth made him look 100 times better than he really was.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradshaw was a very good QB ... tough, a winner... but you're right when you say his receivers helped
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was an overrated qb
Would he be considered one of the all time greats if his team didn’t win 4 SBs? I think not.
He only threw 2 more TDs than INTs in his career and had a 5.4 INT %.
Very overrated.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen...
I think a ton of QB’s could have had the success he did with that supporting cast.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 18, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
his completion % was 51, very pedestrian.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a different era when DBs could mug you all the way down the field
and Bradshaws game was the deep ball. Im not going to look it up but I bet his ypa is pretty high. He was a good QB and he was tough as they come.
I think old QBs really love Romo but he frustrates them with some of his throws and decision making. I think its their way of trying to coach him.
We are all wanna be coaches/players/GMs.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Sep 18, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for a guy who had a career 71 qb rating
I find it ironic he’s criticizing qbs for throws he used to make all the time.
If you want to call Bradshaw a good qb because he lead his team to 4 SB titles, thats fine, I just have a different opinion of the guy.
BTW, his ypa was 7.1, certainly not great.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's put it this way: Romo is better than Bradshaw in every category I can think of except tuck n' run
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry, we dont play at all and we have no problem critizing anyone and everything.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Sep 18, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we're not on national television either
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like these posts
I followed Raf, with boys blog, blue and silver report, and now BTB. I’m really glad they(raf+raul) came here cause these are pieces that I didn’t get from those sites. I love rafs breakdowns, aarons vrr keeps us up to date w cowboys news, grizz keeps it all together, and now fish, you provide an interesting perspective on several issues.
GREAT JOB BTB CAST!!!! THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING!
by TONYINCC on Sep 17, 2009 10:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Steve Smith was their 3rd down go-to guy last season.
And he delivered over and over. He kept many drives alive against the Cowboys last year. He is their best receiver. But Plax would still be the No. 1 if he wasn’t so stupid. Smith is the No. 1 by default, not by choice. And Toomer was just a little older and a little slower. It was probably smart to part ways with him.
The Giants have done with their receiving corp. what they did with their O-line a few years ago. They started 3 rookie O-lineman, and paid the price for the first few games. But it paid off in the end because they grew into a cohesive unit. Now they have a talented young group of receivers but it might hurt more than help this season. They will definitely be running to pass all year long.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
by White Wolf on Sep 17, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree with this post...
As a Tar Heel, I’m curious to see how Hakeem Nicks does at the next level. I don’t think he deserved a first-round grade, as he wasn’t even the Heels first option. I’m guessing the Giants have a poor-mans version of the Cowboys WRs (I know, impossible given what we pay these kids) … their talent is a little younger, a little less developed … and a little farther from success. Having said this, Smith is still dangerous.
Add in that I don’t have the same respect for little Manning as I do for Romo or the big brother, and I expect to see the Cowboys stack the run and force Fag-Face-Eli to beat us.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the nick name...
But I think Tard-Face-Eli is more suiting and precise.
by Static on Sep 18, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What other politically correct sacred cows should we slaughter here?
Our 3rd string RB might take offense to your version.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 4:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I have ever seen someone that looks as confused as often as he does...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 18, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes, and yes... and like all Cowboy fans, yes, I luv to see that expression as much as NY fans hate it
Think of the typical NY fan not as a Wall Street type, but more as a cabbie or longshoreman, Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx … these are working class cities more like Pittsburgh than Manhattan.
… and they HATE that expression with a passion. If they lose, trust me, there’s nothing more entertaining than listening to WFAN call-in rants about Eli. For an added bonus, listen with a Giants fan!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true
some of these yor receivers will definitely pan out and their offense will significantly improve.
The Plax effect though is also real. He was Eli’s version of Fitzgerald in that when a pass absolutely had to be completed, Manning could throw a jump ball and have some confidence that Plax would make the play. If you watch the Giants over the past few seasons, you’ll see them complete a lot of passes Eli should never have thrown – up for grabs, into double coverage, off the back foot. Hence the Barden draft pick.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 18, 2009 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still can't believe they pulled that off though
Three Rook O-lineman at one time. And they were all good. Why the hell can’t we do that? Oh, but I remember when it first happened, I was licking my chops like a good wolf does. Fresh meat was on the menu. And so much of it. Pert near a thousand pounds of beef. We kicked their butts.
Now, ha ha, they have a bunch of KIDS for receivers. We better put them boys down. If we let a bunch of snot-nosed receivers beat us I’ll not be a happy wolfen. Young bucks, my friends, are on the menu.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
by White Wolf on Sep 18, 2009 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
... and I want a KILL
I want the Giants to be humiliated… what better way to start the stadium as well as build momentum for the year?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
prediction: If we win Sunday ... Cowboys repeat 13-3
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
... and then ... and I GUARANTEE THIS FOLKS... we win our bye week (again)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
that would make Wade 2-2 in the playoff with the Cowboys, right?
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 18, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL ... we'd then be 3-0 in Mexico!
Sometimes I feel for Wade, but he deserved crap for that comment.
All we need Wade to do this year is be an excellent DC.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 19, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I like Steve Smith in the slot and think he is the best in the NFC east but I just dont see him as a number 1. If Toomer was 2 years younger he is still there. If Toomer is 4 years younger they dont draft Nicks
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Sep 18, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possesion receiver, right?
But no home run hitter, yet…that’s what the Giants have become…dink and dunk…
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 17, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do so many players hate Romo?
Because he’s got game on and off the field. Don’t hate the player, hate the game…
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 17, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why CAN'T we twitter Martellius while he's in the huddle and give him the formation?
Or, more accurately, the coaches could do it.
Wait, did Goodall outlaw that?
I gues to have more twittering durng a game would be worse than having less of it because more or less it could be distracting to more players than to less, or fewer.
If you get my drift.
by Realist Larry on Sep 17, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they did
I think they can Twitter up too an hour before the game.
by Jeff G. on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I more or less think twitter is confusing
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I more or less think that you're more or less correct
…more or less.
by Static on Sep 18, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this WAS a joke everyone!
glad most saw that!
by Realist Larry on Sep 18, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do I think they are the Most talented
Not on Paper But in my Heart lol, I beleive once the D get coesive that everything will work out. The D will get off the field and put the ball in Romo hand’s. All lies on Romo in my eyes. See how Romo-Friendly can do this week.
by Jeff G. on Sep 17, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I"m loving these things
Cool new weekly feature. Good job, Fish.
I certainly think Dallas has a right to claim they’re one of the most talented teams offensively. Three different receivers had huge TD catches. That’s 3 receivers who showed big play potential in one game. I certainly think New Orleans gets the nod over us, but after that, I’d be hard pressed to name a more talented offense.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Sep 17, 2009 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and the WRs are supposed to be the weakness in the offense!
I think very few would argue that we don’t have the best TE tandem in the league. Arguably the top TE in the league and a freak-athletic TE2 that has the potential to be even better, and creates mismatches just by his presence on the field.
Many would admit that the Cowboys may have the best overall RB trio in the league, or at the least among the top few. Barber is one of the hardest runners to bring down. Felix is one of the most explosive players in the game, highly dangerous in space and a threat to take it to the house on any play. And Choice has proven he can find the yards very well even against the top run defenses in the league. All three are very capable pass catchers.
Our QB is definitely among the top 10 in the league, arguable among the top 5, with unique abilities that portend truly elite status if he fulfills his potential, and just now coming into his maturity in his 3rd full year starting.
So Our WR corps is supposed to be our weakness among skill positions. That’s what everyone has been questioning. So on our opening game three of them all scored big TDs, each one longer than the other! Yes, thank you Sabby, you made it look easy. But still, what a statement to the league! It’s really quite hilarious. Everyone is like “oh, no TO, how are they going to replace that production, oh, can their WRs get the job done, oh” (funny stuffy voice). And all this talk about ball control offense, and dinking and dunking, and can they sustain long drives without making a mistake, and nothing longer than 20 yards in the preseason except the dump off to Felix…. so they come out and do exactly the opposite of what everyone expected. Totally scorched the TB secondary with 3 long TDs to 3 receivers.
Our 2 biggest new weapons who were supposed to provide some explosiveness to the offense, Felix and Martellus, hardly showed up on the stat sheet, with a combined 7 touches. But they sure as heck affected the game nevertheless. But we’ve hardly unleashed them yet and already our offense exploded without them actually providing the yards.
So at any one time, Romo can have 5 trusted, dangerous weapons on the field, in various combinations of RB, WR & TE, creating all sorts of mismatches, and can attack any point on the field, inside, outside, center, left, right, short, midrange, long.
And meanwhile, our Oline is actually the key to the whole thing. the biggest problem there is lack of depth, but the starters are among the biggest and most athletic in the league, and when together and healthy are very effective at both pass and run blocking (both left and right) to make all the ball touchers’ jobs work.
It’s only week 1, and Sabby made it easy for us just like Detroit made it easy for NO, but I’d say it is certainly justified to believe we’re one of the most talented, dangerous and explosive offenses in the league.
(sorry about the long comment lol, once i got going…)
by scottmaui on Sep 17, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(funny stuffy voice)
hilarious!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 17, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love that the media talks about how great Brees was but prefaces any mention of Tony’s great game by saying it was only the Buccaneers.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 18, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas's Offense Without a Doubt
That has even been a worry the past three years, and I know there Defence is just as talented They just have to get clicking out there.
by Jeff G. on Sep 17, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Orleans faced Detroit...
I won’t take anything away from them.. but it was against the same ole 0-18 Lions.. I’m pretty sure Detroit will make lots of QBs look good.
by Static on Sep 18, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, NO also did the same thing all pre-season ... blowing away the rest of the NFL in points scored.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 4:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keyword: Pre Season
Steve Spurrier blew away the league his first preseason. They’re facing the Eagles this week. This is where they can really show their chops.
by northtexan95 on Sep 18, 2009 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who do you like in this game? I'd personally LOVE to see the Saints run up the score AGAIN!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were putting down real money (and I might) ... I'd be taking the Saints +1.5
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was thinking about this last night
I remember parcells talking about the Philly D putting a dark cloud on it. He basicly said if you block the rush they are dead ducks. He also said if you have a reciever like Terry Glenn you could burn that D. Parcells was not a fan of Phillies D. He thought it was to much risk reward which might explain no trophies.
Parcells believed if you have a good QB, Reciever and smart line you would beat Phillies pressure.
by Musiccitynorm on Sep 18, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that you mention it Norm.....
Warner pretty much proved that point last year in the playoffs didn’t he. Remember how many times they burned Philly with Warner/Fitzgerald? Also, I’m thinking that NO has a real good chance of beating Philly because of their QB position. Everyone keeps saying what a brilliant move it was to bring in Garcia, but do they actually think he can come in this week and step right in? I do think it’s possibly a good future move, but not necessarily for this week. I also think with all these Pro-Bowl QB’s coming in, there could be an ego explosion (McNabb) about to happen.
by texstar on Sep 18, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we haven't even seen Hurd or Ogletree...yet. Those two were looking good during camp and pre-season.
And Fish, you’ve solidified BTB’s position as the best Cowboys website on the etherweb bar none. Thanks for what you guys do.
by cypher on Sep 17, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice start Fish
I can clearly see you are not tired!
I just listen for Casey. His voice gives me tingles. —Dave
by lee3022 on Sep 18, 2009 12:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurd
I believe his injuries are keeping him out from playing. If he isn’t injured, all that time he was injured, he definitely lost the contest with Austin. Ogletree probably won’t start playing til later in the season and/or when an injury comes back.
by Why on Sep 18, 2009 12:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurd had 3 ST tackles
led the team. i doubt he’d be out there ballin’ on ST if he was too injured.
I just think some games he’s not going to get a WR stat line, but that doesn’t mean it’s because he’s not healthy or lost the contest with Austin, I just think they have somewhat different roles and will be used depending on the play. Hurd will get into the action too.
by scottmaui on Sep 18, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I think Hurds game is closer to Craytons than Austins. I think Austin has a set role.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Sep 18, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna be disappointed if we don't see Ogletree much this year... but that's disappointed IN A GOOD WAY
I really think Roy was complementing the entire receiving corps when he said they had the best offense. I would not be surprised if he’s genuinely humbled by the talent we’ve got behind him… Austin looked FOR REAL with that move he put on the safety, all Crayton does is be a consistent option, and our 4 and 5 are legit #3s on many teams.
Throw in Witten, Bennett, Felix, Choice and MBIII … and Romo is almost certain to have another HUGE year.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're gonna be diappointed
The only way Olgetree sees the field is if we incur some injuries to our WRs.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All that matters
Is the next game. In this case, NYG.
OL protection, ILBs defending their turf, and D knowing when/how to blitz. Getting an early lead (preferably at least 14-0 by end of first quarter) to force them to the pass.
That’s the plan for NYG. We’re golden then.
What matters after that? The next game and the adjustments and improvements that are needed. Period. End of story.
Oh, and what matters, too, is a certain degree of intelligence, insight, and grammatical correctness, at least here.
What doesn’t matter, and what never matters?
Worries from TB game. Stupid predictions about win/loss records. Dumb chest-thumping from “fans” about how we “go all da way!!!! this year, dudesssss!”. Stupid chatter about “who said what about who,” like a bunch of 14 year old girls. New, juvenile and supposedly creative nicknames for opponents (think “Gnats,” “Iggles,” etc.). Random, uniformed analysis of our team or theirs. Folks who don’t get the difference between “your” and “you’re,” or the fundamentals of punctuation, and the basic ways in which simple grammar can radically change what you’re trying to say.
Not trying to be a buzzkill here. But this is football, not VH1. I’m glad, Fish, that you’ve organized these thoughts a little better. Instead of long, dense paragraphs that look like the f’ing Himalayas, can we chunk it up a bit — since your thoughts are nicely all over the map? A thin ellipsis doesn’t create the white space needed, IMHO.
But again, folks — it’s really pretty simple. Game adjustments for NYG. Hope the coaches call the right stuff and the players execute. After the game? Analyze, rinse, sort, and play again.
All year long.
All the way to the end.
by dfan77 on Sep 18, 2009 2:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, the G'ints suck, we're goin' all DA WAY ... and your comments ironically ramble :)
A certain degree of intelligence is a game-plan that calls for a 14 point 1st quarter lead?
You call for fundamental punctuation and ‘grammatical correctness’ (?), but offer this winner (among many): “OL protection, ILBs defending their turf, and D knowing when/how to blitz.”
But the most irony dripped from this: IMHO
… sorry, that one cracked me up!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh,
I didn’t know that ‘Boys fans had to be geniuses at grammar, or ANY team for that matter. A fan is a fan, and it’s all about passion……I do agree, however, that ‘our’ LBs need to step it up a notch from last game… it’ll happen – just had to shake off the rust.
Superbowl, or BUST.
by .FRoST.USAF on Sep 18, 2009 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This line was key
it’s fun for the Cowboys to at least be in the conversation
Who knows who has the best offense? I’m just glad Dallas is looking decent early this season.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 18, 2009 6:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
with Romo at the helm, I am beginning to EXPECT an elite offense
call me a homer, but there are more than a few stats that say that’s a realist talkin’
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
They ARE an elite offense. I can only think of a few offenses in the league on par with the Boys.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Sep 18, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, Terry, I LUV YOU MAN!!!!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a room...
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 18, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Dallas can get an early lead
I’m not sure the Giants will be able to recover, when they are going to pass and you know it the O-line is not very good and our D-line is great. Plus, If they get an early lead we have the firepower to get back into the game.
by Musiccitynorm on Sep 18, 2009 8:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As usual Fish, great stuff
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 8:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FISH, I very much enjoy your contributions to BTB
I suspect that some of the less than glowing critiques are the result of you including snappish comments in your post that normally are reserved for BTB bloggers.
by DannyG on Sep 18, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunk, Knees, StillHate, Squid, Po-Ta-Toe ... and a dozen others I'm way too lazy...
… should we be offended?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not worried, Im glad FISH is here overall
but he is a newspaper guy and its our blog giving right to set them straight.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Sep 18, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, absolutely ... but it's also my right to an opinion about your opinion on his opinion
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
by DalaiLuke on Sep 18, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giant's Cant is out for the count
he wont play against the Cowboys this weekend says NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d812b2412&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
by VTcowboys16 on Sep 18, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bleh..
Hush with that best offense in the league crap!
Last week they proved they had a better offense than the Bucs. This week they have a chance to prove they are better offensively than the Gnats, and the following week the Panthers, ect., ect. When the season is over and they PROVE that they are the best in the league, that’s when it will actually mean something. Until then it’s just another fat, ugly chick on the other side of a computer screen telling me how gorgeous she is! I say prove it. Prove it every week, one week at a time.
Show me, show me, show me!
by sublimezg on Sep 18, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
technically
RW didn’t say we have the best offense in the league, he said we have the most talented offense in the league and as we all know their is a difference between talent and performance.
One doesn’t always go hand in hand with the other.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im with you, Just win baby and get better every week.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Sep 18, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a documentary on Steelers super bowl years while back...
His disdain for the Cowboys was unquestionable… What do any of you expect him to say.. He is hater of the America’s team… He said so himself… He didn’t understand why the Boys were called America’s team, he felt that stealers were the America’s team… not to mention that one of the boys called him dumb as the bag of rocks, that if you give him C and A, Bradshaw couldn’t spell CAT… He is a hater and a dumb A$$.
by CDR on Sep 18, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was Hollywood Henderson
remember it like it was yesterday…and so true.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradshaw likes the Cowboys.
He has a lot of respect for them when they are winning and doing well. If you look, it’s not just the Cowboys that he seems to be talking smack about lately. I’ll bet that the producers told him that he needs to be more controversial/inflammatory.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you B.P.
Bradshaw does like the Cowboys or he did at least. I don’t agree with Terry btw about him being over-rated blah blah. He might not have had the statistics, but he did have the wins. When all is said and done, isn’t that what really matters? I remember when we used to play him, you were always afraid of what he might do? He could look crappy one minute and then burn you for a long one the next minute. A lot like the other one that some like to say is over-rated and happens to play for the Steelers. Hey, I’m not a Steeler fan, can’t stand em, but ya gotta admit, those two QB’s do seem to know how to win. Over-rated-NOT!!
by texstar on Sep 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who overrates him?
I don’t think there is anyone out there that would even put Bradshaw in their top 10 QBs.
I know diehard Steeler fans who think that Bradshaw was a good QB but not great.
He has the right to his own opinion, but he can also be wrong. Alot of the national media watches games in bits sometimes. I heard Mike Greenburg comment on the Arizona-Philly playoff game and said “Philly lead that for a large portion” and I was like what? If by large portion he meant the last part of the 4th quarter.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Sep 18, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's your own fault, actually.
You shouldn’t be listening to Mike Greenberg. He’s annoying and gets stuff wrong all the time. I know his persona is supposed to be this metrosexual type guy, but it’s not that funny when you make as many mistakes about sports as he does and you host a sports show on a sports station.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 19, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Boys were called America's team
because in 1979 a producer from NFL films named Bob Ryan wanted a snappy title for the team’s yearbook (the ones that NFL films puts together for everybody in the offseason). That’s the only reason. Ten seconds of research could have found that out for Bradshaw, but like Mr. Fisher said, Fox pregame manages to both suck and blow.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 19, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was how it started, but that's not the reason the moniker has "stuck"...
The Cowboys are America’s favorite NFL team…the television ratings, merchandising, and fan support clearly show that. This is a team that hasn’t won a playoff game in over a dozen years, but still manages to max out their prime time television allotment every year…
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 19, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a friendly suggestion to Mike Fisher
I like the thoughts, but I find them hard to follow, with several points not germane to the little bold headings buried within them. I’d suggest more sub-headings. It would allow readers to get to the parts they want, and to get the overall points more quickly.
by VAfan on Sep 18, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's fine as is
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 18, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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