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Announcing the BTB iPhone Application!

"Buy your own BTB app!"

Jason Witten won't let Antonio Pierce read the BTB homepage from his iPhone.

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"Buy your own BTB app!" Jason Witten won't let Antonio Pierce read the BTB homepage from his iPhone.

In our efforts to keep up with the latest and greatest in today's hi-tech world, the Blogging the Boys team has launched its own application for the Apple iPhone. Now, you can check in on all things Dallas Cowboys right from the palm of your hand.

Click below for more details.

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If you have an iPhone, search for "blogging the boys" from the application store to download your BTB app. You can also download it onto your personal computer's iTunes account here.

It is only $1.99, and well worth the price. You get access to your favorite blog right there on your phone's main screen. It was fun for me to see all your FanPosts pop up on there after the game Sunday night. There was a ton of them, but scrolling through on my phone made it a lot easier to keep up rather than having to get off the couch and fire up the old desktop.

The application features the latest stories, FanPosts, and FanShots. You can customize it to receive alerts when a new story is posted. Story links work as they would on your PC, complete with pictures. Also, a menu bar offers an option for you to search your favorite topic, or for archived stories.

Check out the screenshots below. Note: These are just sample images that you will see after you do your initial search for the application. Once you download it, you will have the most up-to-date Cowboys news.

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BTB Homescreen

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Story Screenshot

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Topics Page

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I will be checking this post regularly to answer any questions you may have.

[UPDATE by Dave]: After reading the comments from below, I thought this was appropriate.

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Immortal Fist has issues…I was asking if we could get news feeds for all cowboys news on the app, and he writes get out of here…Nice. Anyways, I like the app, but it needs a little work, and it will get there.

by Love Me Some Me 1 on Sep 22, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No no...

I was more against the news article than the app.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Sep 23, 2009 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Love Me Some Me

But I will save articles like that for another post.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasnt really posting it to show people, I was using it as an example, that for 1.99, I should be able to get up to date Cowboys news. I dont really care about 2 bucks, but why pay it when I can surf the web on my iphone for free anyways. If it had up to the minute news feed, it would be a great resource.

by Love Me Some Me 1 on Sep 22, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhh, well

posts like that will be included in Valley Ranch Reviews, FanPosts, and FanShots—all of which are featured in the app.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 23, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Aaron...

not wanting to rob your fantastic post, but if some reason we want to draft another pass rusher in the first or second round next year… perhaps look to Austin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSsLkBG_64Y

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Sep 22, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at first I thought

No way is he still there when we pick. But on second thought……

Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.

by sublimezg on Sep 22, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

youre not implying

what I think you are, are you? :(

On topic tho:
I have a g1…damn…

by goldnboi7 on Sep 22, 2009 8:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think that Kindle will be a better OLB and player than Orakpo.

Plus I just think that he’s meaner. He has a vicious side to him… he’s the guy that McGee thought it would be smart to get up and talk smack too after he laid his ass out.

Yeah, that rumble would have lasted all of 2 seconds.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Sep 22, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mocking the Draft posted this on him right before that game.
Much was expected of Texas defensive end Sergio Kindle this season. In 2008, he finally lived up his prep hype playing outside linebacker. In two games this season, though, he has no sacks. Come up empty against Texas Tech and it’s time to start wondering about his draft status. He seems more fluid at linebacker, but his ability to get around the corner has never been the best.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's kind of what I thought...

if he slipped to the second he would be a project worth working on.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Sep 22, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That play would be 15 yd PF in the NFL

Although I liked it :)

So it begins...

by APerfectStar on Sep 22, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Iron Fist

I went to high school with Kindle (Woodrow Wilson HS), and actually followed him to college, and I know that he is not the type of guy that we want on the Cowboys right now. I don’t want to bad mouth him, but I’ll leave it at that.

by Cavazos on Sep 23, 2009 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean it?

Only $2 for an app when I can just use my browser or RSS feed? Like Blogging The Boys? There’s an app for that!

by bryangene on Sep 22, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's alot faster, bryangene.

You don’t have to wait for all the ads to load and stuff.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I was gonna go out and find the love of my life

BUT NOW?? What’s the point? Now I am complete! Well, as soon as I get an iphone anyway…

Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.

by sublimezg on Sep 22, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You get an iPhone and you'll be turnin' even more heads ;)

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Sep 23, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SBN already has a mobile site for the iPhone

And it actually works really well. Not sure why you’d buy a version of the same thing.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Sep 22, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is SBN.

This is a Blogging the Boys app. It gives us a bigger platform to launch things such as podcasts directly through it.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is it different from this

http://mobile.bloggingtheboys.com

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Sep 22, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good question.

Personally, I have been using that one on my BlackBerry, but this new one on my iPhone. The iPhone one is much more efficient for me and has an easier layout. It loads much more quickly and just looks nicer.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and you get the alerts when new posts pop up.

That’s always nice!

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

$1.99 and there's still ads in the app?

I’m confused – you’re selling it for $1.99 and there’s still ads in it? why not just charge an extra dollar (or 2) and get rid of the ads?

I certainly understand the need to make money and would consider buying it, but having ads in a paid app is a real turn-off.

by Exit56 on Sep 22, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Every iPhone app has ads on it.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be more specific,

the ad line is just the one you see on other iPhone apps, not the ones on the BTB webpage here.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

V2.0

So when can I post thru the app?? 8-) email me offline when you can …

Congratulations Bob Hayes
"I played for the world's greatest professional sports team in history. Once a Dallas Cowboy, always a Dallas Cowboy." - Bob Hayes
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com

by Raul Villaronga on Sep 22, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! Haven't tried posting thru it yet.

It’s still kinda new to me too.

And…will do.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, but...

the point that I was trying to make is that generally the apps that are free are ad-supported in this manner. it’s very uncommon for an app that is not free to also have ads.

My personal feeling is that it’s a turn-off.

You’d be better off, if you’re planning on using the app as a place to launch to specific content (podcasts, etc) to create two tiers – a free, lower functionality version (with ads) and a premium version that has the added features and no ads. charge more as needed to cover development costs, etc. You’d probably see an increase in reach and revenue.

Did you develop the app in-house or did you (or SBN) hire out someone to create it? I know it’s generally a pretty significant investment, so changing path could be prohibitive…

by Exit56 on Sep 22, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I just use the app like I would any other.

I wrote the post here for it, but didn’t design it “in-house”.

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Sep 22, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the deal...

A software company offered to make this app for the blog through our SBN offices. SBN and the software company agreed to test it out on BTB. So the app was finally ready, I sent it to Aaron because I don’t have an iPhone, he played around with it for a while, and then wrote the post.

We really didn’t know what kind of reaction we’d get or what people would want to know about it. I’m going to ask the software developer some of these questions and see what he says.

But really, we just figured at 2 bucks, interested people would maybe check it out, others would just pass it by.

by Dave Halprin on Sep 22, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two comments...

1) $2 isn’t the problem, but $2 + ads is a bit over the top

2) Any thoughts to developing one for the Blackberry? Since, y’know, Blackberry absolutely owns the smartphone market (especially in the US, where it has nearly a 60% market share).

by DannyWhite on Sep 22, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It is on Android and it is in the Android market.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 23, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now you guys are just showing off

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 22, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Blackberry Blows

Compared to an iphone….once the iphone comes out on verizon….bye bye blackberry!

by Love Me Some Me 1 on Sep 22, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To each their own....

The iPhone is a nice toy. But it’s not made for business.

by DannyWhite on Sep 23, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You babies

are complaining about ads?

How many ads do you see in:
NASCAR
European Soccer
inside Jerry World
in any typical movie, or before any typical movie in the theater
in your emails editors, in emails, in Amazon, Ebay, and so forth…

You are really trying to nickel and dime Rafael and Raul and Griz and BTB? Your delicate sensibilities prevent you from paying TWO FREAKING DOLLARS and SEEING an ad?
On this page, right now, you whining babies, there are about 60 links to other publications and advertisers, and at LEAST 3 different ad networks setting cookies on your IP Address to target you later with ads.
Fricking suck it up.

by Joey2zs on Sep 23, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

twozees!!!

Stop beating up on rookies! I wannna hear your thoughts on the Cowboys!

by alanTdot. on Sep 23, 2009 12:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Hi guys, I’m Wayne Vore from Pounding the Rock and it is my company, in conjunction with SBNation, that does the phone app. You guys have some good questions and comments here.

Just to throw out some answers:
Exit56 is correct. Very few, if any, iPhone apps have a price AND have ads.
There is an Android version.
Yes, people really do complain about $2.
Yes, the SBNation mobile version does have more features and it is free.
We are currently looking into the Blackberry support.
In the smartphone market, iPhone has a 60%+ share of the market for apps. Not Blackberry.

Now for discussion:
As Aaron and Dave mention above, we are doing this as a pilot project to figure out a few things about the market. One of the things we wanted to look at was whether or not we could charge for an app AND have ads in it. In our internal discussions, of the three guys, I was the only one who thought we could have both.

Why ads? I think the blog reader app is different than typical apps in that you need server support for it. It isn’t something like a minesweeper or other game that you can install and it is independent of the rest of the world. There is continuing servicing of the content. Much like BtB itself where there is an ongoing cost to running it and servicing your browser. BtB couldn’t sustain business if everybody paid $0.99 (or $1.99) 4 years ago to read it without ads forever.

Why a price? (Yes, people really do complain about $2, or even $1. It is a really consideration. People are very hesitant to spend that $0.99 on something. From business decision standpoint, it isn’t something to scoff at.) Well, I think that is the real question we needed to figure out. Would people pay for it? There are two things we had to consider.

One, is it a monetization opportunity? It may be a crude way to look at it, but I don’t think anybody is surprised that this is a business. Would people be willing to buy the app for their phone? What percentage would we lose because it wasn’t free and what is the potential ad revenue from those lost readers? You guy probably know that the ad market on the web right now is pretty poor. The free to pay loss ratio would have to be really high to not make it worth it.

Two, is the presence of an app in the app store an opportunity to grow readership? If so, then a free app might be much better. Our thinking go in to this was that it isn’t a readership growing opportunity for a blog. People finding the app can just go to the web site and see what content they would be getting. In that sense, I think it is much different than buying a game or something like that.

That brings up the question, why wouldn’t I just read the blog on my browser (phone or computer). This, to me, is the really tough one for us to answer. I think, and I’m biased, that the alerts are awesome and that the speed and format is great. However, I am completely aware it needs to support both reading and posting comments. The fact that it doesn’t is the single biggest issue. The people who really want the app are your hardest core fans. Those fans, like me, read for the comments and read many times a day. The fact that we don’t have comments causes your best readers to not get what they want out of the app and keeps page views (and thus ad impressions) much lower than we would like. Additionally, SBNation has done a good job updating their mobile site recently. About the only thing i can say is, “Hey, we’ve got Fanshots”!

Now getting back to doing both, I understand people being offended. I’m offended that I buy a ticket to a Spurs game and still get advertised to the entire time I’m there. It’s a calculated gamble you take. How many people will you turn away from your product? The other two guys in my company both thought this was a big risk.

As for Blackberry, we are working on it. We aren’t sure when we can get it out or if it will be part of the SBNation offerings. For us, as a company, Blackberry is a decent sized market. It isn’t however, the dominant force. 65% of all smartphone ads come from the iPhone OS (it also runs on iPod Touch). There are a ton of Blackberries in the world, but they don’t all support apps and Blackberry is a really platform to support because they don’t have good consistency among their devices.

There you have it. Some of my examples may be trite, but I don’t intend to be dismissive of anything anybody brought up. These are all issues that we have discussed at length and it is a marketplace we are trying to fully understand.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 23, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Whoa. I didn’t realize it was that long.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 23, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she said

I apologize, it was just sitting there, I couldn’t resist.

So it begins...

by APerfectStar on Sep 23, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a quick question

is this reserved to the US market ? I live in France and are planning on getting an iphone here (of couse with a French phone provider). Could i useyour product here ?
Thanks

by Helene on Sep 24, 2009 12:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can get it anywhere. Even France.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Sep 24, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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