FISH on FOOTBALL Wednesday: Run, Cowboys, Run!
Bum Phillips was once asked why he was unconcerned about Earl Campbell's inability to efficiently complete a mile run.
"'Cuz,'' ol' Bum replied, "he never has to face ‘third-and-a-mile.'''
That's sort of what Cowboys fans face right now. You are losing sleep at night, pondering what happened against the Giants. You are awaiting the season's third game. And because the meeting with the Panthers is a Monday nighter, it all seems like a mile away.
Allow me to occupy your Wednesday with the first of my mid-week doubleheader FISH on FOOTBALL opuses. ...

RUN, COWBOYS, RUN: Hey, when are the Cowboys going to become a running team? I don't mean when are they going to run well; they did that again on Sunday, tearing up the vaunted Giants' front seven for 247 yards on 29 rushes. What I mean is, "Hey, when are the Cowboys going to become a running team that runs first, that stays with the run, that closes the deal with the run? In what would become a 33-31 home loss to New York, the Cowboys had a lead, didn't run, and lost it. Then they had another lead, didn't run, and lost it. And then they had a lead and - well, you get the idea. Near the end of the third, Dallas is up 24-20, first-and-10, just across midfield into Giants territory. It's Clobberin' Time! (Was that The Hulk? The Thing? The Rock? I forget.) But no. Tony launches a throw so off-target that - hey, forget a punt hitting the JerryTron, I thought one of Romo's throws might doink it - and what could've been 27-20 or 31-20 is nothing more than a silly lost opportunity. The very best teams don't need home runs to close out games. The best thing the Super Bowl teams of the ‘90's did was get ahead 17-10 going into the fourth quarter and then feed Emmitt Smith, rely on their massive offensive line to maul people, swallow the clock whole, and end up winning 24-10. This team? It employs a massive offensive line, it has ballyhooed running backs, and it had lead after lead after lead. Does Jason Garrett not get this? Does Tony Romo not get this?
TOO HARD ON TONY?: Are we all being too hard on Tony? Let's check in with legendary Cowboys QB Roger Staubach, who was asked to give his heir some advice. "He's gotta feel the pain today, and he's gotta feel the pain tomorrow -- and then he's gotta get back to it on Wednesday," replied Staubach. Now, you're going to have to read between Staubach's lines here. But by saying "he's got to feel the pain,'' isn't Roger essentially questioning whether Tony DOES feel the pain?
I think there is one lesson learned from the turnovers, and I think it comes from Felix Jones. This young man is very conscientious. When he watches film of that fumble, the ball held so casually and lost so foolishly, I believe the same thing might never happen again.
I'm a DeMarcus Ware guy - who isn't? - but that index-finger-to-thumb "thisclose'' hand signal seems to me to be from the school of what old baseball players call "Alibi Ike.'' (Interestingly, Osi Umenyiora made the same hand signal when he almost recorded a sack. Maybe it's an Auburn High School/Troy thing?) Nobody cares to be reminded that you were thisclose. It's like when a player taps himself on the chest as if to say, "My bad.'' Hey, we all already know it's "Your bad.'' Quit with the hand signals and just make a play, OK?
THE TERRIBLE MARRIAGE: It's a terrible marriage, coughing up the ball four times while recording no takeaways. I mean, four turnovers is awful; you are almost always going to lose with that number. But Dallas' inability to record fumble recoveries, interceptions and even sacks - the Cowboys are an astounding zero/zero/zero there in two games - means a minus-4 in that category. You NEVER win at minus-4. NEVER. Sometimes turnovers are bad breaks, bad communication, bad bounces. But, boy, not these. The interception that flicked off Jason Witten's heel? I disagree that it was a "bad break.'' It was a junior-high-level throw by Tony - and then it became a GOOD break because what should've been a Pick-Six was improperly judged by the zebras. And that deep ball, where Romo somehow failed to notice where the 11th player was - i.e., playing centerfield over in North Arlington - that's just inexcusable. NBC's Cris Collinsworth tried to make it excusable ("Sometimes, you don't see the safety'') but it's not. Because yes, sometimes you don't see the safety as you make your decision to release the ball. But in this case, the safety lined up in North Arlington before the snap! Romo might've needed a telescope to find him, but he was out there. Waiting. Waiting for a stupid throw.
GETTING OUTCOACHED - A CLICHÉ?: They don't have Plaxico and they don't have Toomer but I said going in that Steve Smith had the confidence of the Giants. And now, coming out, Eli Manning obviously has confidence in Smith and the kid Mario Manningham. The two guys caught 20 for 284 and two TDs.
"Getting outcoached'' is such a cliché. But in the Giants' final drive, the Cowboys had two opportunities to come to the sideline, discuss the situation, and implement a strategy designed to stop NY on critical third downs. What didn't work? The blitz didn't work, Orlando Scandrick didn't work, and the physically gifted Mike Jenkins didn't work.
I've long believed Felix Jones is well-suited to be the No. 1 back here. With MB3 limping, El Gato now gets that chance.
T-NEW AND DEION: Terence Newman is one of my favorite people on this team. He has, I think, the proper balance of devotion to the job and commitment to making things fun. But T-New's pregame comments to the NBC crew, relayed by Al Michaels, about how Newman laughingly asked Dallas' front seven to make sure they tackled Brandon Jacobs so he wouldn't have to? That stinks. He might've been half-kidding, but it's the half that wasn't kidding that bothers me. Next thing you know, here comes Jacobs around the edge, here comes T-New to meet him, and Terence actually hurt himself trying to NOT tackle the giant Giant. You know, Deion Sanders could get away with such foolishness. There is nobody on this defense in that class.
The decision to keep the roof open - which I supported going in - needs to be revisited. Not because of the rain factor, but because of the humidity factor. It was very uncomfortable in that building on Sunday night. Not in the TV shots you saw, where LeBron James and Rudy Giuliani and Jerry Jones and George W. Bush and everybody was feasting on lobster milkshakes or whatever, but rather down on those Party Plazas and especially down on the field. Maybe there's a reason God invented air conditioning.
DALLAS IS ON PACE FOR ...: Allow me to steal a good line: The Cowboys are on pace for zero sacks this year.
So how do you want to make the numbers dance in order to support your position? Do you want to dance with the fact that Romo's record as a regular-season starter is an excellent 28-13? Or do you want to note that in their last 22 games, the Cowboys are a neat, clean 11-11? And if you tilt toward the latter number, isn't that tilt supported by the fact that this era of Cowboys is pretty much perennially 9-7?
If you look at the Giants' schedule, you start figuring them for first place in the NFC East at the midway point.
Media people are curious creatures. It's Wednesday and we've already got two conflicting "sourced'' stories claiming to know the inside scoop on whether Marion Barber will play six days from now. Fellas, it does no good to be first if you're not going to be correct.
On that final Giants drive, both Bobby Carpenter and Ken Hamlin came running and screaming at Wade Phillips, working with him to make adjustments. And then, on the game-winning Giants field goal, Phillips himself leaped into the air, as if by using osmosis he might help block the kick. I took it all as a sign, a sign that they do indeed care as much as you do.
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I was there
in the Swamplands, 2007… when Tony put the final nail in the G-ants with a bomb to T.O. Killed their spirit, we won the game. It’s great when executed, not so great when screwed up.
im more bumbed out now than after the game....
I feel like we just let an eagle fan write for btb….man you are a bummer to read..
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 24, 2009 7:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's hard to get a sense of who this team is this year
The opener the defensive line was like butter in run defense. Against the best offensive rushing team in the NFL they were great.
Romo was excellent the first game, breaking his record for passing yds and no INT’s. Against the Giants, well, I don’t need to say any more about that game.
WR’s were great the first game, with the help of Garrett’s plays. Against the Giants they couldn’t separate from the DB’s.
No sacks both games? That seems impossible but true. Wade, Ware and Spencer needs to get after the QB better or the secondary is going to have a long year.
This all comes down to being consistent. All players have a bad game now and again but IMO this is about coaching. Getting your players to play at a very high level week in and week out, that equals wins. If players are have a good game, then a bad game, so on and so forth, that isn’t a well coached football team. Come on Wade!
by torchindefenses on Sep 23, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
We lost some Chemistry from last year
New players do that But this week will be the turning point
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
It's easy to get a sense of this team
it’s just like last years team IMHO. When you look past the TO conflict, and nit picking game plans, it comes down to execution. The players aren’t executing the called plays. It’s not like they are in the right spot, making the right reads and the play doesn’t work because it was a bad design. The pass defense is bad because our cbs are in the wrong spot, and using poor technique or making a slow or bad read.
Now that has one of two causes. Either the players aren’t talented enought to consistently perform there duties, or the head coach isn’t motivating them to study and prepare for these games properly. We’ve heard atleast one CB say he wasn’t prepared. We’ve heard the coach say they didn’t run enough run blitzes in training camp for the linebackers to know which gap they were supposed to be hitting. And given the lax atmosphere hanging around this club last year, it sound like coaching. Maybe they just need a few weeks for the new “more accountable” atmosphere to take effect…….. or maybe the “more accountalbe” stuff is just spin. I hope it’s the former, because that’s fixable, lack of talent is not.
dont let the rotten fish smell spread..
This team is a good team that lost to a good team, we need some optimism on this board…we ran the ball down their throat…and if not for the t.o. They might have only scored 10-21 points….I mean we turn the ball over 4 times and still score 31 points…
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 24, 2009 7:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty funny huh
Came down to a last min FG, i had tynes on my FFL he got mad points last week
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
I have 16 teams lmao
I got 9 at 2-0 5 at 1-1 and 2 at 0-2 and whats said if the two that are 0-2 have AD on them. If u need some fantasy help let me know i do a lot of research to them.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
OK - here you go
should I start
1) Lee Evans (BUF) vrs NOR, or
2) Mario Manningham (NYG) vrs TAM
would you start
1) DEN defense vrs OAK, or
2) GB defense vrs STL
and
1) Tynes (NYG) vrs TAM, or
2) Rackers (ARI) vrs IND
Green Bay defense!
For sure. STL = fail. Oakland is actually doing fine this season, while Denver’s defense isn’t the best thing in the world. Meanwhile, St. Louis is fail.
You get where i’m going with this lol.
Oh yea
Evans has the big play ability but i would go with Manningham less you can pick up steve smith(NY) i think he’s more realiable. Gb is the shoe in for that one even with we way there o-line is playing. And either one of your kickers i would go Rackers though
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I have rackers
on majority of my teams which was always the last pick he’s solid K though. I don’t think tynes will have another week like last week and with ARI and IDI playing I see him good for atleast 7 points
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Bleh.. I was just starting to feel better.
I agree with most of what’s said here but now I’m back to being bummed. This is an 8-8 team with upside, and that’s about the only sane way I can look at it. Just too many damn mistakes to be considered anything more, to me at least.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
sounds about right
unfortunately. At least we don’t have to pay the inflated pay checks
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 23, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't see it that way
It’s just too freaking early to be so sure, so right. That’s the wonder of it all, we just don’t know. We’ll go to the edge this season, I just know it. Then we’ll see what these men are made of.
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 23, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey whadya'll think about this
There are Cowboys/Chiefs game tickets (nose bleed seat) still on sale! (Oct. 11) Thinking I oughtta go :)
Those Chiefs fans don’t scare me, they’re OBNOXIOUS for sure, but I think I’d make it back to Wichita, ya think?
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 23, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Uhhhh, YEA!
Why do u even have to ask? Go rep the star!
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
If I had a way to get to KC
I’d let you buy them then reach through the computer screen and snatch ’em from ya. :)
I was thinking about taking my son to that game.
BTW I’m in Wichita too.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
Cool
Some friends have advised against it, ooooooh I’m so scared. Isn’t it amazing how here in Wichita, any store you go into that sells team jerseys off the rack you see as many Cowboys as Chiefs shirts!
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 24, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Chiefs? Oh, yeah that other team.
I catch a lot here at work, but I just reply “The only reason I can think of that someone wouldn’t be a Cowboy fan is if their mother did mind altering drugs during pregnancy”. Plus the Chefs aren’t really on a roll.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
I agree, we'll see if this team get's better
Here’s to hoping (raising my Pliny the Elder beer)
by torchindefenses on Sep 23, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Russian River? I applaud your fine taste in adult beverages!!!!!
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
russian river on the east coast?
i’ve been dying to try something (anything) from russian river, but am on the east coast – anyone know of a vendor in the dc area?
I have never seen it on the East Coast, I had it when I was in Oregon on a trip
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
we should all drink poisin'ed fish koolaid..
I might become an eagles fan now, at least they have something to look forward to with vick and all…
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 24, 2009 7:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Do what you want hash.
I know you aren’t Terry or Spagnola, but there has to be some honest opinion here. I don’t want to be a downer, but honestly, there is nothing in the article saying the team is terrible, just that the execution and coaching were terrible. All of which can be fixed. The question is will it?
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
+1
It comes down to planning and execution. Simple to say, complicated to analyze. We obviously schemed against the run, expecting our pass D to be good enough. It wasn’t. We need more pressure, and our DBs need a gut-check. The offense, aside from one Romo pass, looked impressive. Fish told it like it is.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
The first point was particularly cogent.
The way you describe it, getting the lead then pounding them with the run, assumes confidence in the defense. The teams that pounded with Emmitt, or even a couple of years ago with Barber, felt sure the defense would hold.
The way they played it, going for the big pass, implies they believed they were in a shootout.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
RUN THE BALL
Thats all we need to do. Control the clock, play semi good D and let our backs do the rest. Romo can step in and keep the safeties honest and get his touch back.
I think he lost a bit of his touch after breaking his pinky. You use the pinky to help guide the ball when throwing it on a rope (fast). He needs to work a new way to throw the ball. HAH! could be farfetched but I dont care.
I broke my pinky on my off hand and still have problems doing things. This was a recent injury (March 09). Doc told me the anatomy in your pinky is very small and hard to heal correctly. Mine is still pretty crooked. I dont think Romo had surgery on it? So it may have healed funny. Ask Staubauch to see his pinkies. One of em, just aint right!
Play action
Can just kill the other teams D heavy dose of run then Boom Long Ball to Ogletree lol.
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We know now
that we can bench Romo without technically benching him. We just take the ball out of his hands. We have 3 stud backs and a massive offensive line. We can play old school ball and just run it down teams throats. There is nothing more demoralizing in football than running the ball effectively when your opponent knows you are going to run.
I don’t mind Garrett going for the knockout blow against the Giants. He just used the wrong chess piece. He went to Romo when he had Felix, Barber, or Choice ready to deliver.
I love this article
Smash mouth football, Cowboyfan he dings it on the head with what I was trying to say on the other thread. That last possesion we shoulda ran a ton more than we did eat up the clock, with the way we where running the ball we could have ground down the clock. Maybe even added another 7 or 3. The cat needs to be unleashed already guy is beas,t Marion needs to go back to that closer role for sure. And I have already given my spat on the D side.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
I don't think Staubach was publicly questioning whether or not Romo
was feeling the pain. i think he was talking about what every player who has a bad game goes through until it’s time to forget it and move forward; I think his words were full of compassion. Actually, I think it might be good if a lot of those former Cowboys would quit sniping at this team. Fortunately, Roger has the class not to kick a guy when he’s down.
Would it be better if they responded with a terse “no comment” when asked about the current team? Wouldn’t that be just as damning? Or are you saying that they should lie?
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 23, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm, your first point raises a question in my mind Mr. Fisher...
The 90s version of the Cowboys (early and mid, not so much in the later) did indeed grap a lead then maul and pound in the 4th. Seems to me our OC had a ring-side seat er clipboard for the weekly show. Does he know something we don’t? I understand going for the jugular is always good but demoralizing the opponent is so much more fun.
I remember the 90's teams only going for the jugular after the opposing team screwed up.
If there was a turnover just past midfield, take a shot downfield. That would demoralize a team like the Packers. But the difference is: the Cowboys were the best team in the league. If they missed the shot, it would be an incomplete pass at most. Nowadays, that’s a momentum swinger.
This offense needs to stop trying to be the Indianapolis Colts, unless it’s a 2-minute drill. There were a few drives in preseason that bored the hell out of a lot of fans. Where are those when we need them? Depending on Romo to hit three 40-yard-plus scores is just asking for trouble. Sometimes, vanilla doesn’t need the whip cream, cherries, and nuts.
Spoonfeed the backs, even if it’s Cricket! Two receptions/runs for 4-yards each to make a 3rd and 2 is much more reliable than those pick-6s-waiting-to-happen-sideline throws. Save the toppings for Decemeber when we need them.
And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 24, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Qaddafi at the UN...
Did you see the Colonel at the UN today? We need this guy to give the halftime pep talk. I’d put money on it that he could whip any of our guys one hand tied behind his back…except, I think the Playmaker could still take him.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
I remember watching Alvin Haper in San Francisco
Dallas did not just pound the ball in the 4th quarter. Jimmy Johnson and Norv Turner also went for the jugular via the pass. Harper caught the big bomb from Aikman in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl in Pasadena that post season also.
It had nothing to do with Aikman v Romo as the quarterback. Please remember that Bernie Kosar did it the following season in Texas Stadium to bury the 49ers. It seems that the 90’s Cowboys went for the throat in the 4th quarter of Championship games with some regularity.
You are right which is why I do not question the call
I question Romo’s inability to not see the safety lurking back there
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Inability? Really?
Because I see a guy that regularly picks apart defenses. A guy that made a very stupid mistake. But unlike many posters here this week, I disagree that these mistakes define Romo. And I look forward to him proving the crowded bandwagon of nay-sayers wrong.
(not just pickin’ on you, swamp-boy … but everyone that is calling out Romo’s ability :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I agree with you on that point
Romo has a habit of making poor decisions at times, however, from what I’ve seen over the last 3 years is he reads defenses very well for the most part and looks off safeties and DBs on a regular basis.
I think Romo’s mistakes are due more to carelessness and recklessness than being dumb because I actually think he is a very bright guy.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
DLuke says Romo made a "stupid mistake"
And fansince75 says he “has a habit of making poor diecisions” and uses terms like “carelssness and recklessness”
I agree.
These characteristics are EXACTLY what defines Romo at this point in his career.
I, just like most Cowboys fans, hope he changes, improves, and takes us to the Big Dance.
But something’s gotta happen, that hasn’t happened yet.
I think he will in time
Herm Edwards pointed out today that Romo is still experiencing a learning curve since he hasn’t even played 3 full seasons yet.
I have hope Romo will learn to limit his mistakes, I haven’t given up on him like many fans here.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Please Don't Compare This Team to the 90's Team
This current team does not have the defense to shut down the opponent once we complete the bomb. Going for the throat is two pronged. Quick score and then a defense to stop them. We get a quick score (some of the time) and then they get another chance to score (which they usually do). Its much more likely to become a game of who will score last and we will undoubtedly provide a turnover or two with this scenario. If we give a heavy dose of a run game after we have the lead. We reduce the chances of a turnover and slow the pace of the game down and reduce the number of chances we give their offense to score.
+1
The 90’s Cowboys were the best team in the league that had many years of experience growing together and working as a team. Plus, Jimmy Johnson knew when the opposing team was down. He knew when to go for the jugular. When this team does, it is all hope rather than expected execution.
And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 24, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it was him.
Garrett was there too—watching, learning.
Until Wade fixes the defense (and we saw that he did fix the run defense between Weeks 1 & 2), the offense needs to play within its means for the team to win.
And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 24, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point about Felix learning a lesson.
In the pic on the front page with him running on his long runs, he has 2 hands on the ball. That’s probably the only way he got caught, actually.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 23, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
Was talking about that today with a coworker.
Neither of us could believe Felix got caught, thought he was gone. Also, Barbers quad injury..if it hadn’t happened when it did, would he have gone all the way?
Highly likely.
He fell at the seven and was a step or two ahead of pursuing DBs. Even if they had caught him, don’t you think the Barbarian would have dragged ’em into the end zone?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Cowboys need an identity
(Hey Fish, followed you over from DB.com…..)
Fish is right. This team needs to foster a running mindset. All the great Cowboys teams could rush whenever they wanted. Thomas, Hill, Tony D, Emmitt….they all used the run to set up the judicious pass. The sooner Garrett embraces this, the sooner their identity can be forged.
Better to have struggles early on and learn from those struggles than to succeed early and have an over-inflated image of the team’s capabilities and then fail at the end.
Totally agree... I'll enjoy a December 6th victory of revenge all the more after this debacle
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
The decision to keep the roof open – which I supported going in – needs to be revisited. Not because of the rain factor, but because of the humidity factor. — MF
No sh*t? I never understood why you or anyone else supported an open stadium in Arlington in September.
You’ve heard of Weather.com, right?
And the idea of acoustics — that 100,000+ people in a closed environment would’ve been even louder? Even if most Dallas fans have no idea how to cheer in person. . .
And the idea of cooler temps? Yes, it would’ve helped both teams. But with the crowd on the Boys’s side? Gimme a break.
I’m not a Jerry-hater, but keeping it open was due to TV and PR reasons, not “winning” reasons. If he’d wanted us to win, he would’ve kept it shut.
You too.
Great points dfan
The pageantry of that game reminded me of last season, and the superstar Cowboys. All I can say is Jerry has been envisioning this moment for probably 5 years, and he spent a load of dough to make it happen. I’ll give him that one, he earned it. But now it’s time for the owner to hunker down in his luxury sweet, and let the blue collar Cowboys take over.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
Great stuff
It’s bizarre to think we could be a run first offense. I didn’t see it the entire off season, but we abused the Giants D with the run, and they’re supposed to be a top tier defense. I’m coming around to the idea, but I’m still fine with putting the game in Romo’s hands. He’s delivered more than he’s disappointed.
Epic Fail since 1985
We were outcoached
Great writeup and video from DCFanatic.
Yeah, Wade and Garrett should have never put those turnovers in the game plan..
However, Im not touching that last go ahead drive, it should have never come to that.
KICK ASS every day!!!
The turnovers came from coaching
Did you watch the video? The Giants diagnosed a tell from Roy Williams and knew when he was clearing out for the receiver behind him. That was how the rookie jumped the route to Crayton and got the INT. That was just one example from the video.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 24, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
But the coach...
..can call a play or two that gives his player near zero chance to succeed.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
But he can recognize tendencies, and relay those to the players.
If the players know the general place that a ball is going to go, he has a good chance of being there when it does. Why the heck was the safety so far back on Romo’s last INT? Because, the coach recognized something and put him there.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
actually Phillips was playing back all game
Romo had his lowest passing yardage game of his career because the Giants were dropping back into coverage all game, which is the main reason we rushed for 250 yards.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
I think they waited on Romo to force one or 2 deep. Keep things in front of you and eventually Romo will force one.
Romo this is for you, if they are giving you more than 6 yards a carry put the gun away and take the night off.
KICK ASS every day!!!
I think the Player (Phillips) guessed right on the play called.
He didnt bite at all on the play action and was positioned particularly deep. He watches film and has instincts too.
KICK ASS every day!!!
One instinct is
when a QB lobs a rainbow pass directly at you, don’t move at all, just wait for the ball to hit you in the chest without raising your hand to call for a fair catch
then laugh all week while everyone blames it on the offensive coordinator
Someone needs to take a sign to the game.
“Hey Romo throw it to the Guys in WHITE”.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
They traditionally wear white
at home though.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
I thought pass was to RW on the slant and he over threw him.
What in the hell were 2 WR doing so close in the same area.
That wasnt coaching, that was an audible Romo called. Unfortunately, Pierce called an audible for that and Romo ran out of time.
If RW tipped off his route, why is it coaching. How exactly does RWs slant tip off Craytons out. It was a shitty throw. He threw them like that all night.
You dont run a 5 yard slant to clear for a 10 yard out. It was a busted play. Someone said the slant was open(i couldnt really tell but with 2WRs and 3 defenders it was crowded) but over threw him. Im not sure. Romo should have thrown it over Craytons head and live to throw again.
KICK ASS every day!!!
This Team Can Go Anywhere
If our offensive line stays healthy and effective, there isn’t a team in the NFL we can’t run the ball on effectively. That leads me to Tony Romo and his two-cent head. Garrett has to acknowledge that not only is Romo a gunslinger at heart, but so is Garrett. And two gunslingers with zero accountability (you think Wade is going to come crashing down on them??) makes Emmitt Smith look like Nostradamus (7-9 here we come!). Garrett has to rein in Romo and his idiotic decision making. Period. I think everyone agrees the first interception was crap but in some ways excusable as was the second – a high school throw that bounced for the Giants – but the third throw was something Romo was supposed to not make anymore. And he did. And lost the game for the Cowboys.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Sep 24, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions
the first two INTs lost the game
just as much as the third one, if not more so. The third one was the one that was a bad decision which makes it seem like it lead to the loss more, but didn’t. If you take away either of the first two INTs, the Cowboys win the game.
And if you really think about it, if Romo really didn’t see the safety, it was more of a bad read pre-snap at LOS than a bad decision.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
In either case,
1) pre-snap
2) post-snap
Romo was the culprit
I find it totally ridiculous that anyone would criticize any of the coaches for that throw
I don't think they are criticizing the coaches for the throw
I think they are criticizing them for not calling plays which would take that option out of Romo’s hands. If they attempt to run on 1st and 10 maybe the pick up good yardage and drive into FG range to up by 7 or maybe even score a TD eventually and go up by 11.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I hear you,
but if that pass turns into a TD – they’d all say it was a brilliant call by Garrett
The problem wasn’t the play – it was the player
True to a point
But why take that chance, Run the ball run the time out. A HS coach even knows that. We had the game if we just ran it. Even if we came away with 3 they couldn’t score in the red zone. Just Tickles my fancy on how we ran so much then when it counts we throw which was doing nothing.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
I think the coaches were playing the odds
everyone KNEW they should run
the Cowboys KNEW it
the Giants KNEW it
the fans KNEW it
Seemed like a “perfect” time to nail the coffin shut with a very unexpected bomb for 7 points
Failure to execute foiled the plan
actually that's not true
If Romo makes the right pre snap read and sees Phillips, he doesn’t throw that pass so we’re looking at 2nd and 10 probably and the plan is still foiled because of Phillips.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
If Romo hits the WR
in the chest instead of the DB, the outcome is different.
That play still could have worked
He was open
but you still woulda have let alot of time on the clock. I know it woulda hvae been a 2 poss game if we scored a TD but go for the SURE win.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
I disagree
If you watch the play, Phillips is sitting back there like it was a hail mary at the end of a half, I don’t care if the pass was perfect, Phillips at the very least breaks it up.
My point was that we could have had Peyton Manning at qb and we still wouldn’t have hit on a TD pass the way Phillips was playing back on that play.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
that I agree with
but the point was we still don’t score on that play because of a great read by Phillips.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
If he completes the pass we give them the ball right back without taking any tme off the clock. More of a ball control approach at that point in the game would be a better tactic. Which is in the coaches hands. I don’t blame the coach for bad execution but I blame him for creating an unfavorable situation.
When Romo throws that INT to Phillips
DAL was up by 4, right? NYG 20 DAL 24
There was :36 seconds left in the 3rd Quarter.
We had the WHOLE FOURTH QUARTER to play – so running 2, 3, or even 4 more minutes off the clock doesn’t solve any problems. NYG had plenty of time left if we pass or if we run on that play. The clock had nothing to do with it at all late in the 3rd Quarter.
Thought it was the fourth
I dunno i have slept since then
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
I'm not blaming the coaches for the call.
I hold Romo solely accountable for the throws, but I also commend the Giants for studying Romo and Garrett’s tendencies and being ready for them. They both out thought themselves, thinking they were the cat’s meow. Maybe, they come back to Earth, maybe not.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
Yeah but the 3rd one was purely a stupid decision. What makes it hurt so much worse
is we had them on their heels running the ball.
You can win with bad throws way more than you can with bad decisions.
KICK ASS every day!!!
OK guys, it's the middle of the week
We should be far enough removed and able to stop worrying about the and atrocious Giants game, and still too far out to be overly concerned with the upcoming Panthers. It’s a time to take a breather and just enjoy the void without too much anxiety either way.
http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/02/5-lingerie-football-players-who-twitter/
There, that should help
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
which team would you pull for?
LA (first one) wins the looks battle; Chicago looks like they’d kick some ass.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
We’re heavily analyzing this one game…
But look over the past few seasons. This is truly has been an average football team and IMHO that is due to very poor coaching. I do think that Garret has been doing some interesting, new things on offense so far this year. These first two games have shown an interesting assortment of new packages. But on defense Wade has shown nothing but unflavored ice milk. I was screaming at my TV before nearly every Giant snap of the ball the other night.
Once again the corners were asked to line up 10 yards off the line in obvious passing situations and asked to execute a shoddy and porous zone coverage scheme; all the while Wade would routinely send only 4 on the pass rush. This strategy takes away from what these corners do best; press man on man coverage. Let these guys pop these wide outs on the line, making it take longer for them to get into their routes thus giving the pass rush more time to get to the QB, (especially if your blitzing). Wade does not play to his players strengths but rather forces them to execute his substandard game plan.
For the past 3 years Wade has just not been very good at in-game adjustments. He comes into a game w/ one game plan and then never deviates from it the entire game long; even if it’s getting killed for 400 plus yards and multiple touchdowns.
Think back to that Patriots game a couple years ago when Brady came to town and just carved the Cowboys up for 5 touch downs. After the game Wade said that his game plan was focusing on stopping the run (brilliant idea against the best passing team in the history of the game). And he NEVER ADJUSTED THAT. Note to Wade; ADJUSTING YOUR GAME PLAN IS PART OF YOUR JOB!!!
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
Newman stinks......sorry but he does....
His biggest problem is he never locates the ball. Probably the reason he never get’s INT’s…..For a guy who is suppose to be fast he gets roasted too many times…what a freaking mistake giving a 30 yr old player on the decline a big contract… Maybe we should consider using a high draft pick on a CB next year…
this is silly
We lose one game, now TNew is horrible? We stop them on that final drive, every post on here would be predicting 7-0 going into the Philly game.
… Instead, we’re humbled. Romo was “eating the cheese” as Parcells liked to say. Maybe a small dose of humility (like after that Buffalo game) will be the right medicine.
Wade did an EXCELLENT job with this D when he took over last year. They finished weak, I’ll grant you that, but let’s not all panic and forget the reasons for optimism (plenty) that were prevalent here a few days ago.
I’m still thinking 6-1 going into the Philly game … and maybe 14-2 on the year (we lose the first Philly game, get a second dose of humility… and roll from there :)
This offense is elite. This defense can get there … patience gentlemen, just a bit of patience.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I like your optimism DalaiLuke
It’s definitely refreshing considering the criticism on this blog gets pretty harsh at times.
by cowboysfansince75 on Sep 24, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
open your eyes....this has been a pattern of Newman for years.....
He is HORRIBLE at locating the ball in the air, which was evident on Sunday night, doesn’t get interceptions and very inconsistant. He is a very good tackler, but it’s obvious he has lost a step. Let’s face it, he is a good, but overrated CB who will only decline further. He is what he is at this point….not deserving of the contract he got and definatley not a top 5 CB in this league. Really, when does this player ever make a impact on a game? Sorry, just speaking the truth fellows….
Yes while playing man lined up 10 yards off the line...
TNew’s at his best when he can press and jam gusy at the line.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
Wasn't the TD pass to Manningham
1) a result of an uncalled push-off by Mario and
2) then bobbled while both players were falling to the ground and luckily caught?
Pick off of #82's heel
If the pass was thrown correctly to a wide open TE – the INT would not have happened.
- sat the game on he bench – no fire for the game. No fire – no win.
I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys
1. ?? I typed "#9" !
I live and die with the Dallas Cowboys
when you hit the # key, the software thinks you want to make a numbered list...
You can type #9 in the middle of the sentence, just not at the start.
Referring to Romo as #1 isn’t a bad thing :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

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