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FISH on FOOTBALL: A Cowboys Top 10, Defending Flozell And Rank The Rankings

 

A FISH on FOOTBALL notebook, top-10-style, in which I: Defend Flozell, celebrate the two-headed kicker, pick some low-hanging fruit, explain Dandy Don Meredith and boil down the importance of where "they'' rank Tony Romo and the Cowboys:

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1. IN DEFENSE OF FLOZELL ADAMS: Let me say this respectfully to fans and media, OK? Say what you will about Flozell Adams and his "Three Stooges''-style leg extension against Justin Tuck. (Tuck is certainly saying what he will, and the league had it's $12,500-fine say against Flo, too.) But if the choice is to

a) allow Tuck to bury my quarterback

or

b) shove my leg into his ankle, into his face and into his mama's face?

Watch out for my leg, Mama Tuck.

Really, Giants: You want me to take an action that causes MY quarterback to bust up a shoulder? Or you expect me to take an action that causes YOUR guy to bust up a shoulder?

Is this really a debate?

And I'm telling you, anybody who doesn't see this is either a Cowboys hater, Tuck himself or some writer/fan who never in his life has played on the offensive line and been beaten by the man across from him.

2. DALLAS DOMINATES THE DRAFT!: Raise your hand if you knew all along that the prize of the Cowboys' 2007 draft would be a kicker. Heck, raise the other hand if you knew all along that a prize of the Cowboys' 2009 draft would be ANOTHER kicker!

3. NUMBER 33 IS THE LONELIEST NUMBER: The number 33 is going down in history as something other than Tony Dorsett's uniform digits. It was 33 points against in the last game at Texas Stadium and it's 33 points against in the first game at Cowboys Stadium.

And with that, we turn the page. I'm going to resist the temptation to reflect too much on those 33 points and those 33 points and hope that with some positive voodoo, Dallas scores 33 itself against Carolina.

4. YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY, JONESES: I remember when Jerry Jones was first named to the NFL Competition Committee. He took it as a sign of league-wide acceptance (finally!) and he cherished the position.

And at the time, really, it was Cinderella being invited to the royal ball. (Of course, once Jerry got admitted to the dance, the NFL was chagrined to learn that he'd contracted with Nike to sponsor his glass slipper ...)

Congrats, then to Stephen Jones, named to that same committee this week and a very worthy heir. It wasn't that long ago that Stephen was sitting at the feet of the late Bob Ackles, learning the ins and outs of football management. ... it wasn't that long ago, either, when many powerbrokers in the NFL saw the Joneses as interlopers ... Jerry - and now Jerry's oldest offspring - has come a long way, baby.

5. T-NEW VS. THE STEVE SMITH: I'm a bit bothered by Wade's admission that Dallas' attempts to use man coverage in the secondary against the Giants was a failed bit that will probably be changed for the Panthers game. Flexibility is good. But isn't the viability of such a plan something we should know well before Game 2? I'd feel much more confident if I knew that they knew, you know?

Having said that: Terence Newman vs. Steve Smith is a familiar duel, one worth keeping a camera on, and one that I think T-New can strap it on for and go win.

6. THE NFL'S ‘GRANNY SHOT': Eli Manning has joined brother Peyton, Tom Brady and Brett Favre as the four best post-handoff-go-into-throwing-motion fakers in the game. The move looks cartoonish on TV -- but that's only because WE know they don't have the ball. Defenders do not have our same visual perspective. It's a heck of a trick and one that more QBs should employ. Why don't they? I think some of them are aware of the cartoonishness. So, like a poor NBA free-thrower who refuses to try the underhanded ("granny'') shot, they miss out on some effectiveness while retaining their "coolness.''

7. LOW-HANGING FRUIT: I continue to view the "low-hanging'' JerryTron as a non-issue. I heard a skillion people on Sunday say that a punt "almost'' hit the overhead TV -- "almost'' meaning, "came within 10 feet of it.'' But "almost'' is immaterial. It'll matter when it actually gets clonked. And oh, it might get clonked a few times this year. But given all the logistics involved - including geometry and the downside to having to re-kick - I'm not holding my breath.

The Cowboys have removed the Mitsubishi ads that extended below the board and will step them up top, thus further lessening the likelihood. So when will a punt again collide with the JerryTron for sure? Next preseason. When some knuckleheaded rookie who isn't going to make his team needs some attention ... and so he hits it ... on purpose.

8. THE TIME IS NOW: I've often said that a Cowboys front office flaw is that management is far too patient in waiting for players to come along. When would be a good time for some of these kids to reward grandfatherly Jerry and avuncular Wade for their patience?

How about right now?

9. WHERE WAS DANDY DON?: The Ring of Honor ceremony last week was wonderful, but missing a guy. Don Meredith failed to show, and while he often skips Cowboys-related events due to the fact he cherishes his privacy, nowadays the reason he doesn't make it from New Mexico to Dallas is his ill health.

10. WRINGING AND GNASHING: I think wringing our hands and gnashing our teeth over where some national sportswriter "ranks the Cowboys'' or where somebody "ranks Romo among QBs'' is a terrible waste of time (not to mention a waste of hands and teeth).

The team ranking would matter ... if this was college football.

 The QB ranking would matter ... if this was Fantasy Football.

Right now, Tony Romo and the Cowboys don't need to "rank above'' Jake Delhomme and the Panthers. They need to BEAT Jake Delhomme and the Panthers.

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Another great read

thanks Fish

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 25, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Way to go Fish!

What a great read.

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Sep 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!

by CodeNamedG on Sep 25, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't have said it better myself

The NFL is quickly developing into a reactionary league where they are quick to make a new rule when one of their “stars” gets hurt. They do this without putting any serious thought into how these reactionary rules might be changing and diminishing the game. It is very frustrating!

Need to right the ship this week and keep winning games. Who cares about what the media, cowboys haters, and naysayers say. Our team needs our support.

Beware D-Ware

by WittenRocks on Sep 25, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 25, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Punts and the Video Screen

I agree that it is a non-issue as far as punters hitting it, but has anyone asked any of the return guys whether it effects their ability to track the ball in flight?

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 25, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't understand the point

Do we keep searching until we find a problem? To my knowledge, nobody has had any problem with fielding punts, is your question based on something?

by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 25, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The question is just based on my curiousity

As far as I am concerned, the video screen complies with the league standards, so it should stay where it is

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 25, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'd be interesting

if the Stadium crew flashed distracting pictures on the small screens on the ends when opponents were attempting to field punts. Like the returner’s mom or something, just enough to make them have to think for a sec and take their mind off catching the ball.

Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. - Napoleon

by MadDawg03 on Sep 25, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty funny

maybe the worst thing you could do is show videos of them or at least another palyer fumbling a punt. That’d mess with your head…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 25, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!

Naked pictures of them as a child ought to do the trick.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Sep 25, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flozell really looks like a punk.

Tripping two different players, no class.

If you think education is expensive, try ignorance....

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by CFHTim on Sep 25, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Newman/Smith will be interesting to watch

Newman looked either hurt or like he’s lost some burst to me last week. This matchup should tell us a lot.

by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 25, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Or as he didn't knew what to expect...

… and got caught with his pants down…

He went from covering Hixon to Smith to Manningham. There’s very little film on them and what they like to do in term of route running and whatever.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Sep 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

what happened to carl?.....

Not trying to dog anyone but I do miss his articles…does anyone know?

I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....

by hashishkabob on Sep 25, 2009 1:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

thanks i must have missed that part...well i hope he comes around because i enjoyed his posts..

And as far as flo tripping my only concern is that he dosn’t hurt his leg….

I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....

by hashishkabob on Sep 25, 2009 1:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks from me too

No offense to anyone else but I thought Carl’s work was off the charts good. I miss reading him.

by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 25, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did someone invite Texans fans over here and I missed it?

Because apparently they are all proud of their record with being banned.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 25, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Much clearer presentation, Fish

I don’t know if you saw my comment about one of your earlier comment about breaking you column up into clearer and shorter bites, but this version was much easier to read than your earlier ones. Thanks.

by VAfan on Sep 25, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

8. THE TIME IS NOW:

gets my vote which leads me to Proctor and MacQ and why are they on the squad and where is player accountability when heads don`t roll following an embarrasing loss?

by ziggy19 on Sep 25, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Great article

I can’t disagree with any of your points, and I can’t agree more with 1, 5, 7, 8, and 10. Romo should not only pay Flo’s fine, but buy him some new socks or something. Flo takes a lot of abuse, but just like Crayton’s kick, I consider this one to be a smart penalty. And if I was Romo, I would love knowing that I have a defend my QB at ALL costs LT.

I think that maybe the staff would know stuff like #5 if they had done more full speed work in the off season. Did they scrimmage with other teams this year? I don’t remember seeing that in the off season coverage this year, and I think that would have helped too. And of course, they might have also figured out that despite these guys being lifelong football players and trained professionals, or whatever, that this team needs to do some fundamental tackling drills. Maybe guys like Felix wouldn’t fumble so easily if they did that, too.

I don’t care what anyone says, Jeff Fisher told him to hit it so that he could raise a stink on the competition committee. And I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a part of why Jones was added to the committee – to ensure there is no anti-Cowboys/big market bias.

8 and 10 – I believe in these Cowboys, but they are testing my faith. A few games of all units playing sound football would do a lot for us fans, I think.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you Fish!

Money passage below:

Really, Giants: You want me to take an action that causes MY quarterback to bust up a shoulder? Or you expect me to take an action that causes YOUR guy to bust up a shoulder?

Is this really a debate?

And I’m telling you, anybody who doesn’t see this is either a Cowboys hater, Tuck himself or some writer/fan who never in his life has played on the offensive line and been beaten by the man across from him.

It astounds me how many Cowboys fans took Tuck’s side on this and lambasted Flo.

Unbelievable.

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Sep 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, there's a reason...

… I absolutelly hated to see Matt Light trying to spear Ware’s knees with his helmet in the last game against the Patriots. Seeing him connect his 2nd attempt and how Ware spent a bunch of time on the ground was a real nightmare. And seeing how such a thing changed Ware’s level of play from that point forward in the game was a pain in tha-ahem.

Dirty or nasty tactics should be expected in Football, but aren’t any less dirty or nasty for it.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Sep 25, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big difference in a spear or trip. Trip is not malicious.

Ask a player which he would prefer and he would take a trip over a spear.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Sep 25, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, true...

… Spearing – 15 yards penalty. Tripping – 10 yards.

But they’re illegal and dirty, that’s the point.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Sep 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just cant see tripping as dirty. Chickensh@t, yes dirty, naaayy.

I see dirty as an attempt to hurt or injure another player. Crackbacks, leg whips, spears, cheap shots to groin. Hitting after the whistle, leading with the crown.
if he truely wanted to hurt Tuck he would have waited for Kosier to engage and then dove at his knees from the side.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Sep 25, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

all i care about is...

…D-Ware & da Hotel. U won’t see me takin’ up for the likes of a__clowns like Tuck. Eff him.

True Blue. Go Cowboys!

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Sep 25, 2009 10:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's stupid

I’m sure Flo’s thought process was, “I’m going to trip him and blow his shoulder out of socket.” That’s stupid.

I know he meant to trip him, but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t wanting to maim Tuck. It’s not like he put a figure-four leglock on him. Could you imagine the outcry if the Giants had lost and Tuck was out for the year?

by illcowboy on Sep 25, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tuck needs to learn how to fall better.

I don’t remember learning anywhere along the way, either by coaching or experience, to fall with arms extended taking the blow. Of course, in the heat of battle, shite happens and you fall any which way. But sticking your arms out to catch the fall is not a good move.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Sep 25, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why tripping is illegal.

It’s like getting hit when you’re not expecting it, and there is no way to prepare for it. As far as Tuck was concerned, he had a clear run at the QB, and then next thing he knows, he’s going face first.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 25, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

thought process

was to try and block him, sticking his leg out was probably just a reflect reaction that was over before he knew it.

by ziggy19 on Sep 26, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

They already built a statute of Tuck's fall up in NYC...

Its a bit inaccurate though…in reality the crying didn’t start until after the game.

Beware D-Ware

by WittenRocks on Sep 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Bro... that's priceless

I’m gonna show that to my Giant bud’s. Thanks.

P.S. They don’t have a great sense of humor, which makes that picture even better.

by Road Warrior on Sep 25, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao!

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Sep 25, 2009 9:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kudos, Bravo and Yeah on 'The Ranking's'

Irrelevant, yet the subject of so much angst. Only ranking that counts is at the end of the season. All is is just hyperbole.

Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced

by tdships on Sep 25, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought this was the money quote.
Right now, Tony Romo and the Cowboys don’t need to "rank above’’ Jake Delhomme and the Panthers. They need to BEAT Jake Delhomme and the Panthers.

Word.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Sep 25, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Right on.

Haters can rank them number 32 and don’t care how pretty it is. Just win.

by illcowboy on Sep 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you deleting posts?

A few posts have been deleted. They did not use profanity or insult anyone. Two in particular called out Flo. I guess they disagreed with the great writer and could not be allowed to stand.

by steelyeyedmissle on Sep 25, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

FYI

That had nothing to do with it. The deleted posts were from a Texans troll who I’d been tracking and finally had enough of. He had comments at other places on the blog so I banned and deleted all his comments. Your comment was child comment of his original and they also get taken out when I delete. It’s just the way the platform works and I can change it.

Is that satisfactory for you?

by Dave Halprin on Sep 25, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Dave....

I was reading that tripe the troll was posting. And while I love a good troll, that dude was asking for a banning.

Good job!

by Road Warrior on Sep 25, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I guess he came back with a second user name. What a punkin head, collecting bans.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL ... I thought it read better "I can change it"

… as in:

 “… but prefer not to…”

Grizz, while we’re all luvin the site … your reward for being a huge Cowboys fan? Another hat to wear: Policeman :)

BTW, looking forward to the Tar Heels / GaTech game … just glad Tashard ain’t playin’

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 26, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

... and HUGE kudos on picking up Fisher ... as evidenced by this week's classic column

Throwing in Tuck’s mom … classic!

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 26, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought one of my comments had been deleted.

I too went after the troll, in an unprofane way, of course. I don’t mind at all, now that I know how it works. Oh man, this is so nice. While I’m at it Dave, the anger from Cowboy fans this week reminded me of the beginning of the end over at DMN. It started with genuine anger over Cowboy failures, and turned into a free-for-all. Once that started, the site began to be invaded by Cowboy haters, and at a point I started asking myself, ‘Why am I here?’ I mean all it was was angry Cowboy fans and Cowboy haters. My last few months on that blog were distinctly unenjoyable.

Anyway, thanks for 86ing the trolls, and I’m here to tell you now, you have to nip it in the bud, or it will quickly grow out of control. Thanks again.

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"

by White Wolf on Sep 26, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 (thanks Grizz)

The value of this site is that MOST of the detractors make excellent points … while I may disagree on the degree of trouble, you cannot ignore the problems.

… of course there are some comments that need to be ignored, others that warrant reply, and a few I’d like to add to Grizz’s boot list … you’re right when you say it can be too much.

Bottom line: glad that’s Grizz’s job and not mine (I’d be horrible at it :)

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 26, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I am sure it’s a delicate balance – encourage dialogue while setting the right tone. That’s one fo the things that makes this site different. Every once in a while someone qvetches about it, but they are wrong as you point out… it leads to chaos and eventually a worthless blog.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Sep 26, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the problem with Flozell Adams

while I agree that you do what it takes to protect the QB, a cheap shot is a cheap shot regardless of motives. The argument that he did it out of a reflexive action loses a little steam when you see that he tried the exact same maneuver later in the game, thereby making it seem a part of his technique when beaten. If Tuck hadn’t been hurt, then the outcry would be much less, but his fine should still have been higher because his actions show it to be a tendency, not an isolated incident. The second problem is with his response, which borders on the ludicrous and makes him seem like an incredibly arrogant dbag. Imagine my hitting someone in the knee with a bat, and that person getting a concussion when their head hits something on the fall. My arguing that the concussion wasn’t my fault would be laughed out of any forum. Cause and effect: without the trip, no injury, therefore the trip caused the injury. Finally thank you to Chandus for pointing out that all the knee-jerk pro-Adams reactions ignore how you all felt in a similar circumstance where your star was on the receiving end.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Tripping is as much a part of football as fasemask and holding.

Getting hit and falling is so much better than getting tripped and falling. Why?! Because in this instance you didnt get to blast our QB.
A cheap shot is intent to injure.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Sep 26, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

they’re all examples of blatant cheating. Definitely something worthy of defending.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 26, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

this would be a non-issue if Tuck hadn't hurt himself

there’s no defense for Flo’s trip… but Tuck hurting himself is a bizarre result

Imagine someone hitting a Giants fan’s knee with a bat? Okay

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Sep 27, 2009 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay fair enough

please convey said message to Mr. Fish, who does write a generally entertaining article. His response was quite dramatic, leaping to the defense of his poor beleaguered player. Like Chandus said, just keep it in mind when it happens to your player and you want to rip the other team’s heads off.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 27, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats Mike, this one is a hole in one.

Top to bottom this reads like a perfect BTB article. Maybe it’s all in the tone: a measure of righteous indignation here, a little sarcasm there, some ‘rapier wit’ (to quote Jim Vance), a healthy dose of realism, and a couple of numbers sprinkled in for good measure.

I liked it a lot. Now if I could only get the “pinching DeMarcus Ware’s cheeks” image from your first post out of my head, all would be well :-)

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL

- no cheek pinching needed on the blog

by BishopWest on Sep 26, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

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