What will it take to restore your faith?
Obviously this blog has been busy over the past week, with a ton of good arguments on just about every side. One thing that seems to be clear: a lot of fans have lost faith in at least parts of this team, if not the whole team. Personally, I have lost faith in Tony Romo's ability to take us to the next level. Many people have lost faith in Wade, Garrett, Campo, Hudson Houck, Wade Wilson, and/or the rest of the coaching staff. Some have lost faith in Terence Newman, Mike Jenkins, and Orlando Scandrick. Some have even lost faith in Demarcus Ware. I'm not saying that we should or shouldn't believe in any or all of these guys, because I think there are valid arguments either way. Let's just say that they have all been at least moderately successful, some very successful, at what they do in the past; shown varying degrees of talent - some moderate, some immense; yet have never been ultimately successful (maybe Campo and Houck have, but that was a long time ago) and continue to either do things, or not do things, that raise valid questions about whether this is as good as this team will get.
Personally, I lost faith in Tony Romo this past Sunday. I think it was a breaking point for a lot of people, maybe not necessarily for Romo, but also for other players, coaches, or units. Many people still have all the faith in the world in the entire team, or at least certain parts of the team. Some people said that they lost faith long before this past Sunday.
For me, I am just unable to believe that Romo can lead this team to playoff success and ultimately a Super Bowl. I still think that he can, and I definitely still hope that he can, but I have serious doubts now. For me to believe in him again, it's going to take quite a lot, unfortunately. Even if he were to play great and rattle off 9 straight 100+ passer rating games and lead the team to 9 straight wins, I would still question whether he will get it done in December and January. Even if he went 5-0 in those games, and played great in all of them, I would question whether he can actually lead the team to victory in the playoffs this year. In order for me to have faith in Romo again, I need not only a playoff victory for the team, but for him to play well in the game. And if they only get one playoff win and then lose, I would need to see him play well in the loss in order to have faith in him.
Has anyone else here lost faith in this team or parts of it? Or am I the only one? If you did, what would it take for you to believe again?
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I just wanted to add that this thread wasn't intended to bash Romo or any of the other specific people that I mentioned. And I'm not just trying to get people to say that they don't believe in Romo or Wade or whatever. I just know that before the season, a lot of people seemed to think this team was going to go far, but then after last week, that didn't seem to be the case. I'm just curious if it's as simple as beating Carolina to have most of us convinced again, or whether it will take more than that. Like, if the Defense plays lights out against Carolina, will people that doubted them believe that they are a good defense, or will that take all season? Etc.
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A solid win vs atlanta would be the earliest sign that they can win a important game but we all know that december
is what looms in this team’s future until they perform better as a team and finish the season strong the same questions will still persist. It is hard to have faith in the team right now, but that does not mean I do not believe they can do the job just that I do not have enough faith in them to turn the corner for the entire season, they tend to do it in spots.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Sep 27, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will say that the a few things that have looked good so far and that look to be a good trend for the year.
The offense can score points and with a number of options which was a question at the begining of the year; the ST play has been much improved with a glimmer of playmaking ability; and the penalties have come down by 1/2 which is also an improvement. So I think the team can change and improve but can they put it all together and win the tough games that every team faces in the regular season and beyond if they make it to the post season.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Sep 27, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
During the early Tom Landry years
the Cowboys were known as the team that couldn’t win the big game, they came close several times, but fell short.
Then once they finally broke through and won Big, it came a little easier for several years afterward.
I keep hoping that one of these Romo years will be “that kind of year” – thus far, no big dance.
by BishopWest on Sep 27, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point I don't know
A turnover free game by Romo and a continuation of the dominant running game on Monday with some sacks and turnovers by the D would be a start. But then, we’ve seen that before, haven’t we? We’ve seen that for several games in a row as well. I’m with Cowboy78, I believe thay have the ability to get it done, they were minus 4 in turnovers, ran for 250 + yards scored over 30 pointsand lost on a last 2nd FG. Other than Ellis, Henry and Canty it’s still pretty much the same D as last year. The O showed they can still ring up the points even without TO, so there is potential on both sides of the ball. All that being said, I don;t think ANYONE is going to believe in this team till they win in December and win a playoff game. My biggest concern right now is the regression of the D under Wade. Coach “fixit” hasn’t. I wonder if he’s just gotten too cute with the schemes?
by John Boy on Sep 27, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The D is a lot different, actually.
If you count the nickel CB and LB as “starters,” they have 6 new ones: the 3 you mentioned, plus Brookings, Sensabaugh, and Bobby Carpenter. That’s a lot of guys to learn to work together, even though some of them are familiar with the scheme. Plus, they lost depth at LB and CB by getting rid of Ellis and Henry and moving guys into their spot. I think Wade will have these guys in shape and playing well by midseason. But their first 2 performances haven’t inspired much confidence, so that may be wishful thinking on my part.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 27, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i find it hard to judge the team week 2
There are areas i agree with. I am generally concerned abou Romo.
When it comes to the secondary…I’m not extremely concerned, I think the lack of a pass rush deserves a lot of the credit. I have faith that our secondary will step up…my major concern back there is it doesn’t appear Newman is a shutdown corner right now.
When it comes to the rest of our D, the lack of depth kills us. We shouldn’t have cut greg. Untill rookies come back from injury and start to earn pt, we’re gonna struggle in late game situations due to the defense wearing down, which worries me.
Still, despite the relatively poor play, I have faith the defense will turn it around. We’ve got some real talent back there. Against the Giants, despite how badly we feel about their play they definitely played well enough to win…holding the giants offense to 20 points (disregarding turnovers) isn’t a bad performance.
Romo…I don’t know man. I had all the faith in the world in him prior to the AZ injury. Since then hes cost us the Pittsburgh and Giants games nearly singlehandedly with overall poor play (even ignoring the turnovers he didn’t play well), and he didn’t play that well for most of the washington or baltimore games, and yea that philly debacle, which I don’t think is really relevant cause I doubt we will see a 21 point halftime deficit anytime soon, and that obviously impacted the second half.
What I need to see from this offense is mainly on Romo – he needs to take care of the ball.Once things start going poorly, he needs to take a deep breath, calm down, and not continue to make big time mistakes. His accuracy also needs to improve, cause hes been well off since that AZ injury. But he can do all this! Hes obviously struggling right now, but keep in mind (I’ve said this all week), hes had as many bad games in his last 10 as he did in his first 33 or whatever….I think what we’re seeing is the first slump in whats still a young career, not his downfall as a qb. We’ve seen him play better than this, which is why I have faith that he CAN, its just a matter of if he will.
We need to take care of business tommorrow night, which I think will be a tough game..both teams will have their backs to the wall. After that, go to KC and Denver and pull out wins that may be harder than they look – denver is going to be 3-0 (althoug against terrible competition). But the next time we see this team in a big game will be the atlanta game…
I’m not even sure how much “faith” I have in them even matters….they need to make the playoffs, and once the playoffs start, the nfc has proven to be a crapshoot. We could win out in november and december and lose in the first round.
by foyesboys on Sep 27, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I haven't lost faith so the question doesn't quite apply
but I really would like to see our defense step up on Monday night. I continue to be a Romo supporter and believe this offense has the capability to be a championship caliber offense, but this defense is what worries me. We haven’t gotten a sack, but more importantly haven’t gotten any turnovers. We simply will not be an all around great team until our defense rediscovers some playmaking ability.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 27, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I 2nd that emotion
I think we know what we have by now with Romo and this offense. Points will be scored all year with the usual side dish of headscratching penalties and turnovers. Sometimes the D just needs step up and hit someone in the mouth. A big time D is a great deodorant
by fretman on Sep 27, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I obviously believe in Romo and the Cowboys
Like Romo said that loss was just a hiccup and they will get better and improve as the season goes on.
I personally think losing faith after just one loss is ridiculous.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 27, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Terry!!!!!!
you didn’t kill yourself! I was worried about you my friend.
Just for the record, its been two seasons of the same old stuff, not one game.
by Musiccitynorm on Sep 27, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a tough loss
plus I knew all the Romo haters would be out spewing their Romo hate and I wasn’t in the mood to spar with them so I took a week off.
And for the record, this team will get better.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 27, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry
Good to see you posting again
by BishopWest on Sep 27, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Romo haters?"
You mean folks who just hate it when Romo plays like absolute crap? Yeah. Pee-yew. What is up with those silly buttheads and their hating it when Romo plays like crap?
by MadMick on Sep 27, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was just a hiccup
Once you learn to rationalize it that way, life is glorious.
Romo needs to start being a turnover hater.
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't lose faith after one loss.
It was the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. And I didn’t lose faith in that I think that he can’t do it, it’s just that I now legitimately have doubts about whether he can. Before it was a matter of “when we have post season success…” and now it’s a matter of “if we have post season success…”
This team is 9-7 in their last 16, were 9-7 last season, and since coming back from injury, Romo has had as more games below 75 passer rating than he has had above. Before I thought it was just a matter of growing pains, but now I have some real doubts about the guy. Again, that doesn’t mean that I don’t think he can do it, just that I don’t have absolute faith that he can.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 27, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't expect 90+ qb rating every game
Romo still has twice as many good games than bad or mediocre, and I trust thats how it will play out this year as well.
At the end of the season, his rating will be 90+, and we’ll make the playoffs and win.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 27, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't expect that.
I have said repeatedly on this board that I think Romo only needs to not play poorly (rating below 72) for this team to win most of the time. Thinking that he needs to do better than 29.6 is not the same as demanding 90+.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and most of the time, that is the case
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even the Football Gods in the League will play poorly every once in a while
This year we’ve already seen Tom Brady laying a 53.1 rating egg… With all of his experience and while being coached by a G-E-N-I-U-S ala Norman Einstein.
In 2008 Peyton Manning had 3 howlers (59, 46.6 and 46.8).
Expecting and demanding perfection, or something close, from a QB is an easy path straight to depression.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I hate comparing QBs to other QBs.
We can argue all the way down the page about this, but here’s how I see it: those guys have built up a benefit of the doubt that Romo does not deserve at this time.
IF he is ever as accomplished as them, then what they do will matter as far as what Romo does, but until then, it’s meaningless to me. By the same token, if Romo does reach that level of accomplishment, I won’t hold his future poor games against him and will trust that they are mere anomalies as I do with Brady and Manning.
Why not point out all of the QBs that have had low numbers and never won a Super Bowl? Because the odds are more in favor of him being one of the hundreds of them, than they are of him joining Brady and Manning as one of just 27 quarterbacks to win a Super Bowl.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 28, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They had stinkers when...
…they didn’t had the benefit of the doubt, too.
For example, in the 2001 season Brady won his first Super Bowl and had 7 games with ratings below your expectations (72; 62.9, 58.7, 57.1, 70.8, 61.3, 63.6 and 62.1. The Patriots lost the first 4 games and won the last 3 of those games in their way to winning the whole thing) and all that under the direction of a couple of G-E-N-I-U-S-E-S in Belichick and Weis.
Look, I’m not saying that he deserves to be compared to those guys, they’re the best at their positions because they’re consistently above good, but that doesn’t mean that they won’t come back to Earth every once in a while… QBs will struggle for whatever reason, that’s a well documented subject.
And I’m not comparing Romo with them, I’m just saying that even the best QBs in the League will struggle every once in a while. I accept that many of Romo’s problems are self inflicted like his fumble and defense reading problems and he still needs to work on it.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
by Chandus on Sep 28, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the thing about using those guys as a comparison – Romo is not a rookie. The Giants game was not Romo’s first poor game. Instead of looking at what the 2 QBs currently considered the best in the game have done, and then using that to excuse Romo, we should be looking at what Romo himself has done. And when I look at that, and see that for 3 straight years his play gets worse toward the end of the year, it makes me question whether he will ever improve. I used to firmly believe that it was only a matter of time, now I will only believe it when I see it.
Last night he played well and said all the right things in the press conference, but until he actually does it consistently and at the end of the season, I’m not completely convinced. Despite Garrett desperately trying to get Romo his stats on the one goal line possession, I hope that they both learned that as long as Romo is simply efficient, he will have decent stats and the team will win.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
had nothing to do with stats
RW and Bennett on midget CBs are mismatches the Cowboys should take advantage of all the time.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 29, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't know if it was stats or what.....
but those were stupid plays that could have come back to haunt us. We had the choke-hold on them by running the ball and to throw up those two passes was just down-right stupid. Jon Gruden even agreed. Don’t know if that was Romo or Garrett but those kind of plays will/can get you beat. Fortunately, in this case, it didn’t.. My son, the Cowboy optimist, even said after those plays that we were toast.
by texstar on Sep 29, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our line and RBs against their D was a bigger mismatch.
We were averaging over 8 yards per carry at that point, and the ball was inside the 1.
It was arrogant and an attempt to pad stats for them to call the fade twice in that situation. Especially when Romo is weak at throwing it.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
It’s a severe mismatch, I like the calls, they just have to be execute better.
The throw by Romo to RW was perfect, he just dropped it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 29, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we wouldn't have beaten tampa
if romo was simply efficient. What he has to learn to do is be efficient when its obvious the rest of the team is playing well. But my guess is there will be plenty of games where he needs to do more than that.
by foyesboys on Sep 29, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
It’s not like those TD passes traveled 50 yards in the air.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were great passes, don't down play it
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 29, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't really
lost faith in anything yet. I do think that I have lost a little hope in that Romo will make that leap to being a clutch, top 3 QB. I think he’ll be a Favre type …. can be either really great, or really bad. But I’d rather live with that than have Shaun Hill at QB.
Sugar ... water .... and, of course, purple.
by what_the_crap on Sep 27, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't lost faith.
I think Romo has to do better protecting the ball while at the same time not losing those intangibles that make him the “Good Romo” at times. I have said it for the past couple of years now. If Romo had just a good defense to support him it would cover up for a lot of the mistakes that he makes. The bottom line in my mind that I have been struggling to accept is the fact that our defense is a below average defense and frankly has been for a while. I know everyone will point to the fact that we lead the NFL in sacks last year…but I distinctly remember the feeling as we were racking up these sacks that we weren’t really putting any pressure…the kind of pressure that creates turnovers and generates opportunities. To often Romo is forced to do it all for this team. I hope this defense improves but I don’t see that until we become more physical on the interior (inside LBs) and more aggresive/effective in our coverage schemes. Sorry about the long rant, just had a lot on my mind about this team.
Beware D-Ware
by WittenRocks on Sep 27, 2009 6:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Either a 3-4 week stretch of really good football or a win in a “big” game i.e. division game, december game, playoff game.
by jsams on Sep 27, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Never lost faith
But for those who did, I’d remind them the season is long, there will be more losses, more mistakes and more INT’s, it’s inevitable. So if you’ve lost faith in the team after the first loss, I don’t think you had much to begin with.
So it begins...
by APerfectStar on Sep 27, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that implying that it only took one loss is disingenuous.
This is a team that went 9-7 last year, missed the playoffs, lost 3 of their last 4, and basically quit on the field with the season on the line against a division rival. Not to mention the fact that they haven’t won a playoff game in over a decade.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 27, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was last year
Look at Pittsburgh, they win the SB and start out 1-2. Bengals sucked last year and they start 2-1.
Too many fans want to live in the past, you have to have faith in the present and future.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 27, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You never kick a man when he's down...
so we’re all glad to have you back, Terry.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Sep 27, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All you have to do is watch the Niners...
and you will understand what is wrong with this team. I have hated the Niners since the 80’s, but these guys got the “it” that we don’t have. Hey, can you imagine if we had Singletary coaching our team? I have watched their first three games and those guys hit hard, make tackles, cause turnovers, have a running game, don’t commit penalties, and don’t make dumb mistakes at critical times. And they half the talent we have!! I mean, hell, Romo has more talent in his little pinky than Sean Hill, and Hill is in there battling until the last snap. Wade should play Niners games back to team instead of handing out ice cream bars in the locker room (can you believe that crap?) and maybe we could learn something. We’ve all been in denial about a lot of things…and Wade and Romo are at the top of my list.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Sep 27, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What do the Niners have?
They gave up a last second TD to a 40 yr old QB, and a WR just signed off the street. Give me a break with the glorification of mediocrity.
So it begins...
by APerfectStar on Sep 27, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I agree....
theres a big difference between what a coach of a bad team needs to do to get his players playing decent football and what a coach of a talented team needs to do to get his team playing great football…
It seems for example, like the consistently great defensive teams have a great D coordinator. Ravens, Steelers, Eagles, Giants from 07-08, Pats from 01-06….These guys aren’t about getting in peoples faces, they’re about execution.
With singletary, a lot of its about passion and getting the team to play hard, but we need to execute. There is a HUGE difference between being an up and coming team and being expected to win, and I would bet that Singletary’s coaching style wouldn’t fly on teams with more talent than the 9ers. Its not as simple as “he would get on romo for his turnovers”.
by foyesboys on Sep 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a good example
Singletary is to the 49ers what Parcells was to us…
We’ll see in the future how he adjusts to have a winning team, cause the 49ers seem headed for that direction.
by foyesboys on Sep 27, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not ready to push the panic button just yet.
Let’s see where things stand after at least Week 6. I think the defense is a far bigger concern than that wacky Romo chap and his zany antics. I mean even though the defense couldn’t create turnovers last season either, at least they managed to bring down the QB. Now they can’t even do that in addition to still not being able to force turnovers. Smells like 9-7 all over again.
by MadMick on Sep 27, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that if Romo has a bad year or he plays bad in December and January then I think that we will be drafting a QB early in the draft. I’m not saying first round or anything but maybe 2nd round. This is going to be a stacked draft for QB’s. With Bradford, McCoy, and Tebow probably going in the first round. Hall from BYU could be around late Keenum from Houston, and LaFavour from Central Michigan should all go in the 2nd or 3rd round. Kitna is a good backup but is only going to play 1 or 2 more years. McGee I didn’t like in college and he hasn’t done anything yet to change my mind.
by jack dein on Sep 27, 2009 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that won't happen
Cowboys like McGee and more than likely Kitna will remain the backup next year as well.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are nuts...
if you think that anybody but Romo will be the quarterback for this team next year (barring injuries).
Beware D-Ware
by WittenRocks on Sep 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
given just how wel Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez and Stafford are playing...
taking a qb in round one seems like a reasonable risk…
but Romo would have to stink it up. I mean he would have to be as on and off in his next 14 as he has been in his last 8. I have too much faith in him to think this will happen/
by foyesboys on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will be the telling year for him. He is still fairly cheap with his base at just $620,000 and his cap charge at $4.5 million. Next year his base salary jumps to $8.5 million. Jerry is an impatient person and if he feels that Romo isn’t the answer he may start over in 2010 with a new coach and QB.
In reality if Jerry gets that far we probably had a really bad season. If the Giants game showed us anything its that even when Romo is bad this team can still play with the best teams in the league. While the season is still early it doesn’t look like there will be any dominant team in the league this year. The Steelers are 1-2 the Patriots have looked average at times and the Colts struggled with Miami. With played with and should have beaten the Giants. What that means is that a 10-6 season will be good enough to get into the playoffs, probably not good enough to win the division.
by jack dein on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Jerry does feel he's the answer
he said as much last week predicting Romo will lead us to many SB titles.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing faith at this point in the season?
We’re 1-1 for crissakes…14 more to go. How do you make it through a 16 game regular season if you question your faith in the team at this point? I won’t deny that last season I was beginning to lose faith but it was more due to injuries than anything else. I still think Romo can continue to mature as a quarterback, I still think this defense isn’t anywhere near its peak, and I’m mildly pleased (and expect to be much more so) with the ST. I think we’re a better team than last year in all phases of the game. It’s just too early to start losing faith.
by Benthere on Sep 28, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So you have no doubts at all about this team?
I’m not saying that I’m going to stop watching until they win a playoff game, I’m saying that I now have doubts when before there were none. And according to the poll on the front page, I’m one of 62% at this site that feels that way. I’m sure a lot of them will change their minds back the other way if the Cowboys blow out the Panthers, but for me, it will take a LOT more than that. I’m curious to find out, since 62% of people voted that they at least have doubts about this team making the playoffs, what it will take for those people to lose those doubts.
For those that haven’t lost any faith in any aspect of this team, I respect that and want to hear their opinions, too. But don’t pretend like this is something that arose after 2 games. The main areas of concern for this team, Romo, defense, and coaching, have been discussed on this board for a few years now.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 28, 2009 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I have doubts about the team,
but I do every year. Even the 90’s teams that steamrolled…I had moments of doubt and faith. There are no absolutes in football, as in life. I can understand you having doubts, we’d all like to see a steadier performance in all aspects of the game..but that is generally unrealistic of about 95% of the teams in the NFL these days. You’re going to have injuries, mis-communications, misreads by the Qb, missed assignments by the entire team, blah,blah. So it boils down to; Do you think the Cowboys have the personnel, the coaching, the desire and the absolute luck it takes to win a Superbowl? And I say yes, and why not us?
by Benthere on Sep 28, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're in denial...
Let’s face it….this team is in big trouble now. I can see this thing falling apart fairly quickly. We need a new coach. I think we all know how this season is going to turn out – 8-8 getting blown out by the Eagles again at the end. I wish it would be different but I don’t see Romo or Wade changing overnight. And you can see it when those beloved Triplets speak – they know, bro.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Sep 28, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'd rather be in denial, according to you, than where you're at.
I just don’t think this team is “in big trouble” and “falling apart fairly quickly”. I choose the opposite. I think they are better than last year and will continue to get better. Thats just how I choose to view the season at this point. To each his own I guess.
by Benthere on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fellow Believers
Oh, ye of little faith! While it is always a great pleasure to join the church of Tony Romo in full session, it saddens my soul to see my bretheren questioning their faith. I take comfort in the fact that the high priest of our church, Terry, has returned from his mysterious absence to once again uphold scripture and provide much needed counseling.
In times of personal crisis, I often seek enlightenment in other congregations. I pray that you will find solace and be able to re-connect with your faith by reflecting on the trials and tribulations of some other congregations I have recently visited.
I have recently attended the Church of Donovan McNabb. His desciples are in a constant state of worry about his health, and the congregation has been weakened by a great schism caused by the rise of an anti-prophet, yet they continue undeterred on their quest for the holy grail that remains forever out of reach. Pray for them as they enter a very contentious phase of finding a new prophet to lead them to the promised land.
I bring you greetings from the Church of Eli Manning, which is currently proposing instant sainthood for their anointed one by pre-ordaining him for the HOF with nary a shred of evidence. I ask that you find it in your hearts to donate graciously to their Eli Manning Cash For Clunkers fundraiser.
I have also passed through the Church of Jason Campbell, from where I bring you sad tidings. The Children of Zorn have lost faith in their anointed one, going so far as to worship at the altar of the pagan gods of Cutler and Sanchez in their growing heresy. Alas, their prayers remain unanswered.
In my search for enlightenment, I have visited the Temple of Peyton Manning, only to find that they had renamed themselves to ‘The Scientific Church of Peyton Manning’s Regular Season Fantasy Stats’. In their mono-theistic zeal, no mention is made in their vast historical archives of a 7-8 post-season record. Then again, this brought back to my attention the 10th gridiron commandment: "Thou shalt not envy thy neighbors ability to win a post-season game".
In the next days I shall descend into the evil empire of the Cult of Brady (still unrepentant about their fall from grace) to study their scripture on the self-propagating myth of The Lost Season and learn more about a mysterious affliction that Tom Brady has contracted: he consistently looks scared to death of all opposing 11 defensive players, mistaking them all for the grim reaper.
Do not despair, ye faithful, we must not tarry! Mount steads, ye Cowboys! Nigh is the time when Master Romo shall blanket the battlefield with his supreme skills and rain down upon the unwashed with fire and brimstone.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 28, 2009 3:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what's interesting?
And I really didn’t start this thread as an anti-Romo thing, but I find it odd that anytime someone suggests that Romo can do better, his supporters want to bring up every other quarterback in the league, and even ones that have been retired for years.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 28, 2009 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody is saying Romo shouldn't get better
what we’re saying is that all qbs have bad games from time to time and Romo will have more in the future. Like he said last week, I’d like to see a qb play great 16 games a year, never has happened, and it never will. It doesn’t matter who is playing qb for the Cowboys, they aren’t going to play good in every single game.
The game of football has a lot to do with getting breaks, sometimes teams get them, other times they don’t. For instance, if that SF CB doesn’t drop that pass by Favre at the end of the game for a pick 6, Minnesota loses and Favre if the goat, but the CB drops it, Favre gets another shot and throws the game winner.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly and everyone would be calling for Bretts head today
by rioplayer7 on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but now he's the hero
and totally forgets about that bad decision/pass.
There’s a fine line between being really good and really bad.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or how lucky you are sometimes
Tony had the unlucky break with Witten and who knows that led to 7 points for the Giants so maybe it would have been a different outcome but i hate playing the what if game
by rioplayer7 on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unlucky break on a pathetic throw
he had some authorship in the outcome
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 28, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.....
that was flat out a bad throw behind Witten. Don’t go making up excuses for his bad play in that game. That being said, what you really want is consistency from the QB position. You don’t need highlight reels week in and week out. You need consistency because in the end it will bite you. That was a great TD from Favre and will be re-played over and over. I can justify those kind of heroics because it was at the end of the game and a desperation type situation. However, you don’t want to be put in those situations at earlier parts of the game. That will get you beat.
by texstar on Sep 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point though texstar
is that great TD never happens if the SF CB drops an easy pick 6 the series prior.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is true......
the CB did drop an easy pick. If Romo will quit trying to force things and get back to throwing the easy throws to Witten and take what the defense will give him he’ll be okay. I just hope that he is learning. I have heard more leadership coming out of him this past week than ever. Hopefully,(which I’m trying to be) he will quit trying to be Favre because for all the highlight reels of Favre’s, there are a lot of ugly passes like the playoff loss against the Giants.
by texstar on Sep 28, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that's not what happened.
This is the same silly argument as Romo in the Giants playoff game and Eli in the Super Bowl. If this, if that, woulda, coulda, shoulda…
But instead, let’s talk about what actually did happen.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 28, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so because the CB dropped the pick
it doesn’t make it a bad throw or decision by Favre??
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
boring is beautiful
I don’t need drama. I probably can’t take drama. A nice plodding 14 point win would be nice. Lead by 14 at the half, win by 17, that sort of thing.
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1.........
highlight reels don’t win championships.
by texstar on Sep 28, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Johnson said that luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
There might be a reason why this team seems unlucky.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 28, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peyton Manning; 3-8 in the postseason.
Except for a four-game postseason run where his rating was 70.5, or a full twenty-five points below his career rating. I mean this guy is so friggin’ great all us losers at home should have to pay just to watch him sitting in our living rooms.
What does this have to do with Romo and the trajectory his career will ultimately take? Probably nothing. Does this excuse Romo’s horrid late-season performances? Hell no.
It does mean that any grand pronouncements about how clutch* the bar none hands down best QB of this generation is (Peyton) are anecdotal at best; at least if by clutch you mean=clutch in January and beyond.
by MadMick on Sep 28, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry - take another week off.
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Sep 28, 2009 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you lost faith, or maybe never had any to begin with
which is more likely the case, then maybe you should take the entire season off.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One playoff win
I think that is what it will take.
I gotta say — seeing such a talented QB (and team) shoot themselves in the foot over and over again has taken some of the joy out of watching them play.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Sep 28, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Let Romo prove he can win at least one playoff game, and he will start to win the fan’s approval again. As Arizona proved last year, one win can be a quick jumpstart to something big…
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Sep 28, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Making the playoffs
is the first step, and not a certain one with this team
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 28, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few things
1) defense, defense, and more defense. If they can’t sack or intercept Jake Delhomme this week I will not be a happy camper.
2) a good December.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5
by Grady90 on Sep 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Losing faith
Personally, I lost faith during December of last year. The cumulative failures were just too much. I swore I would not get back on the bandwagon until the entire team proved that it could win – for me, at a minimum that means going to the NFC Championship game. I stated in an earlier post that last Sunday’s awful showing didn’t change anything, nor would a great victory tonight. I truly believe that – the track record of this organization over the last few years is clear. Until they prove otherwise through a successful season and postseason, I have no faith.
My problem now is that I am having a hard time getting emotionally excited for the game tonight. Something intangible is missing. Usually I’m all wound up on Mondays when Dallas plays but today is just so ho hum. Unfortunately for me, I have lost faith to such an extent that even a dominating victory won’t change my perception that this team is going to crash hard after Thanksgiving. It was actually easier being a fan during the 5-11 years when you knew that a 5-11 record actually reflected the talent level in the organization. Right now, I think the player talent is good enough to compete for the division championship, but there is a lack of leadership and an acceptance of a culture of mediocrity. And that is a damn tough thing to change when you aren’t making major changes to the players or coaching staff. No, I don’t think this team will see postseason success until major changes are made. The trick is to keep the good parts but discard the problem ones. It’s a tough spot to be in.
by Cowboy.Louie on Sep 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Usually I’m all wound up on Mondays when Dallas plays but today is just so ho hum.
I feel the same.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Sep 28, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was one game and one loss why are people so worried?
Every team in the nfl loses eventually in the season (lets not talk about the Patriots or Dolphins undefeated seasons and also remember the Pas did not even win the Super Bowl) Come on now we barely lost to one of the top teams in the league and we had 4 turnovers.
by rioplayer7 on Sep 28, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I gained faith in the fact that everyone can be a critic.
As long as footballs are shaped funny, and any team can upset any team on any Sunday, we should just appreciate that we are just getting into the thick of the season.
I think it is safe to assume that this Cowboys team is not a 5-11 or 6-10 team, but we have to expect much turmoil to get 10+ wins and/or get into the postseason. Last week’s loss showed that we shouldn’t even think about the playoffs because this team can beat a good team like the Giants if a few plays went the other way, or this team can lay an egg against somebody like Denver.
It’s a week-to-week season. These Cowboys need to fight each game instead of relying on talent.
And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 28, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair comment
I would add that this team may not be good enough to blow chances like they did last week – taking out a division rival at home. There isn’t always a huge gulf between 7-9 and 10-6. I don’t think this team can be so charitable and go 10-6.
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 28, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There aren't any teams in the league that good
Just look around the league and the teams that are considered the best with the best records all have flaws that can be exposed.
I mean just look at last years SB, the Steelers and Cardinals weren’t great teams. They were playing the best in January, but both teams have major holes and still do.
The Cowboys have a great shot of making the playoffs and going to SB for this reason, there simply aren’t any great teams that exist in the league anymore.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lost confidence in Wade
The Giants defense destroyed Tampa Bay’s offense, which scored 24 points on us with over 400 yards. Two games, no sacks, no turnovers, 57 points. Romo stunk it up, but we still scored 31 points and lost. Any mediocre defense would have won the Giants game with the offense scoring 31.
Wade is all about defense, and the defense gives up 44 in the most important game of last year, and now 57 in the first two this year. Wade is no longer effective as a D-coordinator, much less a head coach. He needs to go now!!!
by tebdrew on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cowboys are wasting a year.
The Cowboys will not have any real success as long as Wade Philips is the head coach.
I’ll have more faith when someone like Mike Shanahan is in charge.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5
by Grady90 on Sep 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe in me! Do you believe in me?
If Wade & Co. can get this kid in to do the pregame locker room speech, then they win this game convincingly.
And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 28, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo's not the problem...
I’m willing to accept the 3 pick Romo a couple of times a year much more than our Defense playing soft. Romo didn’t lose the game last Sunday, our D did by allowing shEli to march the length of the field for the winning FG.
Been a ‘boys fan since ’63 ( after the Texans moved to KC) so will always have faith in the team; however, don’t think we will not be back to the big Soupbone with Wade as head coach.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
by angie'sdad on Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have lost faith in this team before the season started....
because Wade Phillips is still coach.
Sure this team will win its fair share of games (probably tonight as well) maybe win 9 or even at best 10 games….
but this team does not have the guts to win important football games in december or in the playoffs because it is gutless just like the coach.
Until Phillips is fired this team will just be “pretty good” team that chokes on its vomit during crunch time.
by death of the cool on Sep 28, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I can
I am going to wait on jumping off the ledge for this season. I think 14 games is still a lifetime in the NFL, and it’s the reason why the Panthers can still think Superbowl despite being 0-2.
So it’s still going to be one playoff win at least before I can exorcise the horrors of underachievement that the past few seasons have been, but the ship can still be righted.
But if you don’t think this is a critical year in the development of Tony Romo, you should really think about how good he is…and how good it can be. Just as fans in Washington are finding out that Jason Campbell will never take the next step, we might be in for a rude surprise if Romo also never rids himself of these lapses of concentration.
And it would be an absolute shame because you can see what a superb artist he is as a quarterback when he’s fully immersed in the game.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Games like this one help
In 2 of the 3 games so far, Romo was generally very safe with the ball. The only bad decisions i can think of were
a. early on that out route to Crayton that went to a cb, theres a good chance thats on crayton though
b. on one of the runs, it looked like he could’ve protected the ball slightly better, but it was definitely an improvement over last year and
c. The across the field pass. My worry there is that its just too easy to miss a player when you scan the field to throw that ball.
But none of those were lame ducks or straight into the defenders arms, which are the ones that kill us. Romo played a very controlled, eli manning style game. He didn’t press at any point.
Defensively, we looked great.
Its just one game, but i feel much more confident about this team heading into the next two weeks and the seattle game.
But again…atlantas gonna be a real test. And we have 5 nfc east games in our last 11, thats ridiculous
by foyesboys on Sep 29, 2009 1:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not a matter of faith
All most of us care about is the Cowboys making the postseason and winning once they do. We aren’t going to know whether they’ll do either of those things until January. In the meantime, we can debate whether they are getting better, but we aren’t going to know until they do it.
by VAfan on Sep 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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