A Couple Yards Short, But Still Miles Ahead: Cowboys 21, Panthers 7
by Rafael Vela on Sep 29, 2009 9:05 AM CDT
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PrintTwo Dallas drives stalled inside the Carolina ten yesterday. The Cowboys settled for two field goals, though they moved as close as the Carolina one, in each case.
In tight games, small failures of this sort can hurt. Last night, they were happy accidents, which forced the Dallas defense, a group I've dubbed the "55 minute men" in the past, for their inability to close out games, to maintain their focus for the entire 60 minutes.
They not only kept their heads, but lopped off Carolina's. Terence Newman picked off Jake Delhomme one series after the second Dallas field goal pushed the lead to just 13-7, after Dallas strangely threw back to back fades after grinding to a second-and-goal situation at the Panthers one.
This was a crisis moment for the defense last year. It was notorious for playing hard for three series or so and then sagging immediately after an offensive score.
Last night, that tendency disappeared. The defense, which looked flat in a sluggish first half, found their missing shot of adrenaline in the locker room during intermission. On their first series, Jay Ratliff overpowered Carolina's right guard and dropped Jake Delhomme for the team's first sack. This produced a quick three and out, which the defense repeated three more times.
The Panthers did not gain their first first down of the half until roughly six minutes remained in the game. And Newman settled the matter two plays later when he jumped a slant for Steve Smith and returned the pick for a touchdown. Tashard Choice rammed home a two point draw to push the final score.
That would have been enough for encouragement, but Wade Phillips had one more present in his bag. Phillips is famously allergic to rookies but on Carolina's final series he introduced 4th round pick Victor Butler as his situational rush end opposite Demarcus Ware. Butler had shown some promise during camp, running ahead of fellow rookie Brandon Williams, but he appeared destined for a year of special teams duties once the real games started.
Butler had a real burst off the corner, but his hand usage seemed remedial. Wade and end coach Reggie Herring have obviously given him some private tutoring, because Butler gave Carolina RT Jeff Otah some lessons of his own. Butler hobbled Carolina's final drive when he blew past Otah on the outside, flattened out and dropped Delhomme with an eight yard sack just after the Panthers had crossed into Dallas territory.
A few plays later, Butler ended the drive by sacking Delhomme and stripping the ball from the QBs hand. The fumble was recovered by Jason Hatcher and the real celebrating began.
Bill Walsh often remarked that 4th-quarter pass rush is a key ingredient for winning. The Cowboys have missed any and all rush ingredients through two weeks. Butler has to replicate this effort again, but if he can, Wade should have the complete recipe for his big time defensive cake.
Maybe he'll make eleven cupcakes instead? Call it a Phillips Dozen? Nah!
Notes:
-- This is the Terence Newman everybody has waited for. He had a lot of help over the top from Ken Hamlin, but Newman dogged Steve Smith everywhere. The results? Four catches for 38 yards. The bracket coverage took Smith away as a deep option. Delhomme tried a Smith bomb just once. When Delhomme threw deep he looked for Muhsin Muhammad, who was eaten up by Mike Jenkins.
-- The pass defense stepped up. Three sacks, and more pressure helped generate three turnovers. Anybody who saw the game knows work remains. Say it with me now -- tackling! Newman and Jenkins missed a lot of tackles early, and I'll venture that had Jenkins not whiffed on a four yard Muhammad curl, which became a fifteen yard run out of bounds in the final 75 seconds of Carolina's lone scoring drive, the Cowboys pitch a shutout.
-- Another strong game for the run defense. Deangelo Williams has a solid rush average, but Dallas stopped nearly all of Carolina's early runs and put the game on Delhomme. Carolina's runners finished with just 63 yards on the ground. The Cowboys front has neutralized the Giants and the Panthers running attacks in consecutive weeks. Tips of the hat to Igor Olshansky, who stoned every run his way and to Keith Brooking, who brings a lot more throw weight and energy to Dallas' interior run defense.
-- More big games from Victor Butler and you'll never hear the name Greg Ellis in these parts again.
More on the Dallas offense line and the winning quarterback, much more, coming soon.
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Victor Butler
Is awesome. He impressed me in training camp and preseason and hopefully he can get more reps to keep Spencer fresh.
I still think Spencer will improve, but maybe a rotation wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Use Butler like they used Ellis
Let Spencer play first and second down and bring Butler in on 3rd down and passing situations.
However, Butler was an unknown entity and beat Otah with flatout speed both times. If he doesn’t have any other moves then they will just ride him past the QB every time…
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
You have to assume Butler will develop or already has other moves. Flat out speed is the one that can’t be coached and it looks like he has it. His sack last night was Freeneyesqe
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Great Game!
I am wondering what Butler’s future contributions might be this year. Spencer has played the run well but hasn’t had a rush.
McGruber!
Spencer
When I look at the game again I will pay more attention to this but it seemed that Coach Phillips had Spencer covering passes quite a bit last night. It’s hard to get sacks when you are in your own backfield playing zone coverage.
Also, I think Demarcus Ware is a great, great player but it looked like the Panthers pretty much just blocked him with the tackle. I don’t remember very many times when the tackle got help. Ware did get close a few times. I think teams are staying away from 7 step drops just because of Ware. It is pretty hard to get sacks when the QB takes a lot of 3 step drops and it is a lot easier for the tackle to run the defender by the QB in 5 step drops. A defensive lineman’s value should not be totally measured in sacks, that goes for Ware & for Spencer.
I'd like to see more from Ware too BUT
Panthers have an elite LT
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I was really impressed with Butler.........
it appears he could be pushing for more playing time.
nice pass break up
he didn’t look old or slow on that play.
by I_miss_Switzer on Sep 29, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
and this IS the difference between Keith Brooking and Zach Thomas.
For one thing, Brooking is taller and bigger than Thomas.
Plus, he’s stronger, covers better, and tackles better.
I absolutely could not believe some of the people who automatically said that signing Brooking was the equivalent of having Thomas.
Apples and oranges.
And we’re seeing the early returns.
One of the more underrated FA signings of the off season.
Way to go, King!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Sep 29, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
U see him pumping up the guys
I like what he brings to the team, raw emotion. We don’t have any emotional leaders that can fire ppl up from what I see but he brings that
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 29, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He's got fire.
I think he could be the Barberian of the Defense this year. And Zach Thomas was just plain top heavy. He couldn’t get off of blocks because he never had leverage.
by speedmetal on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
I was way wrong on him. I thought he done after watching him in ATL last year, but he really does excel in this scheme.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Deangelo Williams*
And it looks like this draft class wasn’t a complete waste this year. Thanks Vic.
DeAngelo owned you guys
He averaged friggin 6 yards per carry! If it wasn’t for a below average QB and terrible play calling, DeAngelo could have had a field day.
Yall got to sure up that defense, because smarter coaches will exploit that!
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
If that's owned
he can have the keys to my car.
He only had 11 carries
6 ypc is terrible run defense. Imagine what would have happened if Fox didn’t panic and abandon the run.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
You're so right
And the Cowboys should’ve gave Felix 30 carries. He woulda broke the single game rushing record easily.
He can't carry 30 times
When he’s injured on the sideline. Did you guys watch the game???
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
You're the one
who thinks DeAngelo was so effective at running the ball.
Yet your questioning if I watched the game?
I did for one
I think we won by 14 or something like that with Felix doubling Deangelo’s YPC.
uh
Didn’t De’A have one good run? In the 4th, I think, when we were all geared up for the pass….
He had a couple of carries for over 30 yards
Outside of those 2 Williams averaged like 3 yards per carry… Southtunnel is showing that the stupid one is himself and not the guys whose blog he’s visiting…
I hope that we’re making you more knowledgeable…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
If you actually looked at a stat sheet
You would have seen that his longest was 17. You call me stupid, yet you say 2 30+ runs without even looking it up!
Bottom line you guys have a pretty good offense, that should have put up more points last night, but your defense sucks! And that will be obvious when you play smarter coordinators. Come December you will crumble as always, and be with us watching other teams in the playoffs.
Now since your only argument is to make up junk and then call me stupid, I’m out. And don’t bother responding with more bogus arguments, because I’m not reading anymore.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
He obviously meant
2 carries COMBINED for over 30 yards.
Yeah, math or reading comprehension aren't his strengths...
One touch for 17 yards and another for 14 equal 31 yards… Which means: he had a couple of carries for over 30 yards (I should have added combined, though, to make life less complicated for him).
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I wonder if he understands what 0-3 means?
by Road Warrior on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Study football a little bit more little panther and you'll be welcome back whenever you like
We respect smart opinions from all angles.
by Eagles suck on Sep 29, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
If you actually watched the game..
You would see that DeAngelo Williams was basically a non-factor. He hit a couple of good runs but was bottled up for most of the day, as was Stewart. Other than the 1st half of the 1st game of the season, the Cowboys’ run defense has been very solid; it’s almost the least of our worries.
I realize that it’s customary to blame coaches and playcalling when your team loses, but The Cowboys could have stuffed the run all day.
Rushing for 12 yards on 3rd and 16 is not a successful run
Deangelo’s yards were not meaningful in the context of the game. I’m sure you know that, as anyone watching the game would, and are making this argument for Lord knows what reason.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Too bad your season is over
At least we’ll still be in it come December.
But there’s some GOOD NEWS for you. You won’t lost next week, you’re on a bye.
by Road Warrior on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
And we'll miss you - NOT
You can win all the stat wars you want. We’ll take the Game Wins.
On a serious note – how much longer does Marty Hurney, your GM have – the extension of Delhomme seems very questionable. Aside from the disruption of changing QB’s, CAR is going to incur a lot of Dead $$$ for a backup.
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How can southtunnel possibly say the defense sucks
When Carolina had 4 punts (after 4 three-and-outs), an interception, and a fumble lost, in their 6 second-half possessions.
If that sucks………..suck on
I have to reply because I obviously stirred you guys up a bit.
Even without DeAngelo’s longest run he still averaged over 5 yards per carry. 5.8 ypc is the average, he did that all last year and he did it again. You guys won 21-7, we are 0-3! Please let me have 5.8 friggin ypc!!!
I started this argument… So let me offer my apologies. We Panther fans are bitter and angry this morning, because our 12-4 team is now 0-3… So please understand my agitation. You guys should have won 35-7… but most importantly you made plays when it mattered. And I’m not going to take that away, no matter how bitter I am.
Good luck to ya.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 29, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
good luck to you as well..........
I actually like Jake Delhomme because he’s a good guy. I’m sorry to see that he’s having a rough start because he’s actually a very likeable guy.
I like the guy too
sucks for him.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Apology accepted
You should have seen us last week. You have nothing to apologize for, we’re all crazy passionate about our teams so we can’t be held responsible when we’re po’d. I just wish my wife would understand that.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It's cool
Honestly, I’d like to see Carolina do well.
I don’t think that Delhomme was really that bad last night, except it seems that he has trouble with the deep ball. I think that the Cowboys just happen to match up well vs. the Panthers, and had a good defensive game plan (bracket Steve Smith, stop the run).
Is Jakes elbow ok?
Seems like he doesn"t have the arm he once had on the deep passes. I recall he had a rifle at one time.
No worries...
It happens to the best of them… Every real fan feels hurt and disgust after a loss an all you want to do is either blame someone or diminish how bad your team got beat. We were all there last week and we could have easily been there this week.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
im not sure if we should have won 35-7..
The panthers played some tough D…felt like it was easier to move the ball on the giants…so not all 0-3 teams are equal plus a bye…maybe a 10-6 record instore for car. Who knows
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 29, 2009 12:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What happens when you stink it up
on worldwide TV live from Jerryworld because the Dallas D takes away your running game and forces you to do the very thing that you haven’t been able to do so far this season? Ask Jake today…
http://imgsrv.wfnz.com/image/wfnz/UserFiles/Image/Research.jpg
Owned?!
He had 5 rushes on 1st and 10 for 17 yards, 12 of those yards came on 1 play with 5 minutes left in the game. He gained another 39 yards on 3 plays of 2nd and long or 3rd and long when we were in the nickle package. He had 3 rushes for 0, 1, and -3 yards.
You take away his 3 big rushes in our nickle package and he ran 8 times for 25 yards for a 3.1 yard average. That not owned thats loaned.
KICK ASS every day!!!
17 yard draw on 3rd and 16
Helped a bit and I remember him having another 12 yard scamper… that’s 29 of the 66 right there
Go back to bed kid.....owed..LMAO!!...
What did Jacobs do the week before…Williams just plain sucked last night. Get over it…
Thanks
you can tell which area of my brain doesn’t fire properly when I write before my first cup of coffee. I mangle names like nobodies business.
would that be nobody’s? I need my style guide…
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Glad to see the defense step up in a big game
Now they have to continue that against Denver.
In Romo we Trust
the lead was 13-7
i remember because i knew we could have lost if they scored… hate leading by only 6…
Anybody Else Get the Feeling
that Gruden would love to coach the Cowboys next year. It wasn’t outrageous, but he really talked up Romo. But that’s atually a nice balance because no one else in the national media has had much positive to say about Romo lately.
Maybe
it’s because he’s a coach and knows that the best of ’em have three pick games.
But it’s weird, they were alternately bashing and then praising Romo.
Also, you know on that play where Romo threw sideways to Choice? Is it really that dangerous? If no D-player is in the way, then there’s no D in the way…why not just chuck it?
Really love that Romo remembered that he can scramble! He should slide though and not take those big hits from Peppers et al.
Also does Peppers suck or was Flo just playing good?
Also, Gruden
loves QBs. How many did he suit up every week? Like 10?
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
aint that the truth.......
I actually like his announcing though. Not only this week, but the others as well. He actually adds some insight and intelligence to the broadcast.
I liked him too
not a bunch of BS. Maybe it’s because he wants to be back in the game that he’s not going to go over the top trashing teams and players. But that’s what I like about Collingsworth. He seems to always remember how hard it is to play the game so he’s never back-stabbing the guys on the field.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Gruden also loved Marion Barber
but man Ron Jarowski annoys me
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
he annoys me too........
I couldn’t stand him when he played for the Eagles either.
I hated him then, he was an Beagle after all
I actually like to listen to him break down tape though.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I like him on tape too but
he makes it seem like a magic show. A little too much with the oohs and aahs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
yeah, he was one tough QB back in the day.....
funny though,have you noticed, he doesn’t look at all like you think he would look? Kinda wimpy and a weird voice imo.
Gruden was consistent
He didn’t bash Romo at all, the other 2 did. He was very clear about liking him. And on the other point, I expect Gruden would absolutely love to coach the Cowboys. He’s got a huge ego and that would put him on the largest state in the NFL with a talented roster.
I have mixed feelings about him, I’ve really only followed the headlines and can’t decide if I think he’s very good or just colorful and decent. I know he’s very demanding of QB’s so maybe he would be a good influence on Tony Romo. My old brain can’t remember the guys name he had in Oakland but his game was very similar to Romo and he played really well for Gruden.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Wasn’t he essentially an older model of Tony Romo?
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really
Gannon had more of the rifle arm. So he tried gunning more balls into coverage. And he was mobile, but not sneaky, shifty mobile like Romo.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
That's what I remember about him
He moved around a lot and made plays. That’s the part of Romo I like best, when he’s moving and making plays. Sometimes I think he’s more accurate when he’s moving than when he standing in the pocket. But I get your point, I pretty much whiffed on the comparison.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Well the comparison is good in terms
of risk taking too. In Oakland they wanted that vertical passing game, so he’s was chunking the rock up big time.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Very different style offense as well
Gannon was a prototypical West Coast QB with Gruden— lots of short passes used as long handoffs, basically. Romo and Garrett go down the field quite a bit more.
Gannon set the record for pass attempts and completions in a game in Week 1 against the Patriots in…2002, I think? You’d never see Romo throw that much.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
The problem with that is...
When you throw back across the field, a lot of time you may have a LB or worse a CB lurkin in the flats for just such a throw. A disciplined defense would have someone protecting the flats and more so then not the QB cant see the defender when he is running for his life. 90% of those throws are pick 6, we have the advantage as fans of an above the field angle to see that no one was there but QB’s are field level, they got to see over lineman and find the 5’8 RB in all of that. As easy as it looks unless its a designed play its a very low percentage play to try and make under direst.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Something tells me he at least found the safety last night :)
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
lol.. if nothing else he knew where that safety was… He never took his eye off of him he knew where he as when he wasnt on the field… hell he might have even called an audible from the side line because he saw the Safety shade over to the Water bucket for some Gatorade.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
i agree. i also think romo’s read was to choice (we were throwing to the flat a lot) and when he had to scramble right he was still following his initial progression. i mean, he was looking at choice almost the entire play, even when he started to scramble.
by desus32 on Sep 29, 2009 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I got that feeling too...
Gruden does have a fetish for QB’s… by no means am I comparing him to Madden, but his take on the game is similar the both look at players for who they are… if a player is good at this thing then damn it design a scheme to take advantage of it. You can’t box players into a mold everybody can’t be the next somebody else. So I appreciated that despite Romo’s mistakes he still seems him as a QB that can win games for you. If Gruden had that in Tampa he we would still be coaching now.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't
believe that the Emmit days didn’t produce consecutive 200 yard games! Let’s hope Felix isn’t so fragile ALL the time like so far this season. Hate to be a downer, but Choice looked pretty ordinary. There seemed to be a few plays where he might’ve had a cutback lane but he just put his head down and got 2-3 more yards instead of 10. Julius Jones style, but at least Choice has the muscle to gain those extra yards.
We need the Barbarian back! I bet their blitz isn’t THAT effective with MB3 blocking. And you see why we need to limit Felix’s carries?
Also, can we please get Bennett the ball besides those fades?
About Bennett, it's pretty obvious that he and Romo aren't on the same page
Is it because:
- Romo and Bennett’s timing is off?
- Because Bennett’s improvising his routes so much?
- Because Bennett’s having trouble with jams?
Me thinks a combination of the 3…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
They really aren't in sync
I was hoping to see a lot more of Bennett by now.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
On the hot route read where Tony got blitzed...
…Gruden indicated that Bennett correctly read the blitz and adjusted his route, but Romo missed the blitz and threw the ball to the spot of the old route. So that time it sounds like Bennett actually did a great job.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
yep, that's what I was thinking, too
they’ll get it together before too long and TD passes will come in bunches for them
Bennett
Bennett’s play has been my biggest disappointment this season so far. I had big expectations for him but it hasn’t yet panned out. He has dropped a few balls that looked like easy catches, he hasn’t gotten open much, & when he has caught passes there has not been much run after catch. He has blocked pretty good though.
He is still a very young player so I haven’t given up on him by any means. I still think he has a ton of potential, he just needs to live up to it.
yeah, can you believe......
some guys were actually saying that he could be better than Witten? Yeah, the same Witten that happens to be the best TE in the game. Let’s see if they are still saying that now.
I think they based that on natural athletic ability
speed, leaping, hands. What Witten has besides being deceptively fast is smarts like few guys at his position. He knows exactly where the soft spots are and finds them every time. It’s uncanny.
I think Bennet is a work in progress. People forget how young he is and how limited his experience is in the finer points of being a TE. I expect improvement as the season goes on.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
+1000
That and the fact that our passing game hasnt exactly taken off yet.
I dont know if its a combination of being a new sytem with many new characters. Or is it teams have decided to cheat on our passing game. The fact that we have had over 200 yards rushing in back to back games(hasnt happen since Dorsett was starting) tells me they arent cheating to stop the run.
I think its a little early for definitive answers but when teams start cheating to stop the run we better see the passing game excell.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Love the quote from the opposing LB about Witten
to the effect of, ‘I don’t know how he does it, but every time I look, he’s open.’
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Well he's blocking like a SOB
so thats Step 1 to being very good at TE
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
1 step at a time. Witten wasn’t all-world 3 games into his 2nd season either. it’s worked out OK for him so far
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
this was my biggest question about him
he’s answered the call.
I think as he gets seasoned the catches will come.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
I'd say that
Bennett is further along in his 2nd year than Witten was… at least physically. He’s an animal. He’s been a fantastic blocker.
Anybody who disparages Bennett’s game is just not paying attention to him. He’s violently physical. He identifies the correct hole and his correct block at full speed. When he latches on, the defender is blocked – period.
How the heck do you suppose the running game is humming along so well? Because Bennett is a huge disappointment???
Also, how many balls could anyone expect Bennett to get in a game? 2? 20? What does Witten do? The RBs? WRs?
If you think
I was trying to say anything other than what you elaborated, you are wrong. I could give you a +1 for each point.
All I’m saying is that as his route running, def recog improves (not bad now, but will get better) his receptions will increase. He is a huge talent. We have a wealth of talent at RB and TE.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Good points on the blocking
and the catches will come over time.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Is that what you found when you looked it up?
Did it say if that happened in the first 3 games or if there was another Pro Bowl TE on the roster?
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Choice looked "pretty ordinary"?!?!
If 18 carries for 82 yards and a TD (with a long gain of just 10, which shows that he was getting solid chunks of yards every single carry), plus four catches for a healthy 9 yards a reception, and a 2pt conversion from a 4th round pick/3rd string RB is “ordinary” then I’d love to see what you consider extraordinary.
Choice could be the starter on a lot of other teams right now........
I love his intensity and fire plus he’s steady
That depends on how you define "want to"
I was one who said I could see the logic of it. Limited roster and payroll size makes being overstocked at one position somewhat a luxury that is paid for in another position. It’s not that I didn’t like him and wanted him gone, I just thought it should be considered if another position of weakness could be strengthened. So far the stars have aligned so it looks like someone is a genius for keeping him. I wonder if we would feel the same way if Barber and Felix were healthy and 2 OL were hurt.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow...
Can’t believe anyone would want to trade him. Especially with Barber and Felix both getting hurt last year. They need to have their Cowboy Card revoked!
It's pretty much a luxury in today's NFL to be 3 deep at any position
That said, the Cowboys had the fortune and smarts to make it RB. Right now with both MB3 and Felix showing tendencies to get nicked up, we’re fine with exactly what we have.
That said, when contracts come due, some of these guys are going to get paid. Then we have some Choices(pun intended) to make. Personally, I think Felix is the most dynamic back we’ve had since #33 Dorsett. I just hope he can do it over the long haul.
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yeah, what other teams in the NFL
can lose their top two RBs and still gain over 100 yards with their 3rd guy?
Giants over the past few years as well
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Ward, Jacobs, Bradshaw
That was quality depth as well.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Thank you
For some reason people can’t stop their emotional “hell no we can’t take a minute to think about trading him” thoughts for just a second to think of the bigger picture. It shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think anybody antiicipated how bad Hamlin would be
He was a legit pro-bowl FS in 2007. Last year he wasn’t quite as good but was dependable, a solid tackler, and a big hitter. This year he has been none of those things.
Here is a question: Has any player improved significantly AFTER getting a big contract?
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 29, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Quickly becoming my favorite player on this team...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 29, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Kudos to the GM for locking him up
One of the few he didn’t overpay. Talk about “value”. Wow
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
+1......
he has some leadership skills there too.
I thought that too...
when he was talking on ESPN. Matt Millen looked like he was hitting on him.
If Millen likes him
He’s seriously flawed and we just haven’t found it yet. Millen is one of those guys you run, not walk, away from whatever he suggests.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
well
Obviously he’s EXTRAordinary for a third string. But I think he left a bunch of yards on the field…yards that MB and Felix would’ve picked up.
Sure
Maybe it’s just different styles anyway. Felix is always looking for a cutback and so does Barber to a lesser extent. Nice to have someone who just puts his head down and gets the few extra yards.
He prob needs to get into more of a rhythm this year anyhow. He’s a great back, I just think Barber and Felix are significantly better at this point in the year. Great problem to have :)
-1
Choice is a combination of the two. He is not your pound it between the tackles type runner although he can put his head down and get you 2 or 3 yds. He is not a pitch, sweep, stretch run to the edge runner either however he will turn the corner on you if you have bad pursuit. He’s not an extreme in either direction which is why I think he is the perfect “Choice” for the Cowboys as the #3 (Pun intended) He can come in and perform either of our starters role with varied success. Will he electrify it like Felix? no.. Will he exploded it like Barber? no But he will give you a lil of both and as we saw last night a lil was all we needed.
*ok I may be a lil basis since I live in Atlanta and watched him play for GT, but that doesn’t take away from my point. Very few teams can make it after there lead back goes down and even fewer can make it if the #2 goes down… we have a luxury like no other… don’t look a gift horse in the mouth thats all I’m saying.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Call me Crazy, but I'd like Choice to be our starter
I’d start Choice, use Felix as our third down/change of pace/Slash type player and use MBIII as our short yardage/goal line/ 4th quarter closer. Keep em all fresh, wear down the D and let Marion do what he does best at the most important time of the game.
You're not crazy...
That makes the most sense. Keeps both Felix and Barber fresh, and their special characteristics (Felix’s speed and Barber’s power) makes resting them to play against a tired defense the best gameplan.
I was for at the end of last year but watchin Barber these first 2 games reminded me
of why I liked him so much. I like all of our guys and didnt have a problem with the way we were using them. Yes I wanted Felix to have more touches and would like for Choice to get more opportunities but its a long season and there will be games when injuries dictate more use. There is alot of good players and only 1 ball.
KICK ASS every day!!!
we should just be grateful......
that we have great depth at the position. What’s so cool about it, is they all bring something different to the table. When you lose Barber, you lose his outstanding blocking, Felix-his speed and illusiveness. With Choice you kinda get a mixture of both.
the only problem..
Well maybe not the only but the one i see right now is Blitz pick up. Most your RB’s struggle with it. He would have to get MUCH better at it for him to be a Starter.
I guess my other point would be i don’t think MBIII would go for it. He’s tasted starter life and i don’t he would go back to just being a clean up man. I really like Choice but MBIII has a reputation in this league and when he is on the field he almost make you commit 8 men to the box. Because of that power. Choice right now isn’t seeing those fronts beause he doesn’t pose a threat like that yet.
I call it the Hambrick syndrome back when Emmit was on his last leg an we all thought that the young kid Hambrick was out performing him because he was avg 4.3 ypc? Well when he got to be the starter and had to face 8 man fronts… he was no longer the cocky flashy kid who was going to light it up. Instead he got bounced 1 season later and ended up backing up Emmit Smith again in ARZ.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't choice average 80+ yards per game in 4 games as a starter last year?
. . .against teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
I appreciate your analogy, but I think Hambrick was an undrafted free agent from South Carolina (one of the most overrated bad teams in college football over the past 20 years), while Choice is a 4th rd pick from Georgia Tech, who has consistently proven his mettle in his first year and 3 games, and with a good O-line, a good QB to threaten the D and 2 other backs that would help kep the D off balance and tired, I think it would work perfectly.
True that MBIII might not go for it…and the Cowboys have sort of painted themselves into a money issue as well.
DAL leading the league in Rushing
I’m a fan of Status Quo!
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status quo
would be if DAL was 16th in the league in rushing – right in the middle
Rushing for over 200 yards, back to back, is WAY above status quo ;) but I know what you mean
Actually that would mean "average"
Status quo means nothing changes
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
As I was saying
Choice seems to need touches to get his game going. The other two don’t.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Ture
if you remember, it took him a few carries to get going last year. But what people forget was how good he was last year against some pretty tough customers… Ravens, G-ants and Stealers.
BTW, thanks Tashard…. I played you in Fantasy last night… had the Choice between you and Jonathan Steward. All those that said I was a fool, I can’t find today.
by Road Warrior on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude just can't break 100!!
WTF is wrong with him???? LOL
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I hate to admit it
but the way the O-line is run blocking, just about any RB would do well. Barber had some HUGE holes and cutback lanes against the Giants.
why do you hate to admit that?
That’s awesome! The fact that our RB’s are all pretty damn good makes it even better.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
wasn't Emmitt the guy
that looked ordinary in the game, nothing flashy until you looked in the box score and he went for 125?
I wish Hamlin looked that ordinary.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
That same 2pt conversion run by Choice
would have got us a TD, instead of that crappy 2nd fade route called on the 1 yard line
victor butler u are da mannnnnn
This young kid knows how to get to the qb….nice mid round pick by the boys
tap the breaks
I’m excited as the next guy about the possibility this guy showed last night, but
. . .it was clear that they were going to pass
…the O line was gassed
…nobody had any film on the guy
….Otah looked like he hardly even tried on those plays.
Again, I’m hopeful, but let’s wait a few games before we break out the anointing oil.
Shouldn't you be shopping for a new QB right now Bill?
Ha ha…….great post and I totally agree.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Denver that good? I haven't given them a look this year yet.
3-0? That can’t be, with Kyle Orton? Crazy stuff. Okay, I see who they played and they got lucky in that first game against the Bengals. The Browns and the Raiders are downright aweful. One thing I noticed is that their defense is limiting this terrible offenses to under 10 points a game. Here is what one fan from the Bronco’s blog says:
“After watching our Broncos play these last 3 games, I think they can run with the big dogs.”
He can watch and weep next Sunday.
by torchindefenses on Sep 29, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
But really who has Dallas beaten for that matter...?
A pair of 0-3 teams in the Bucs and Panthers. That’s not really all that impressive either. I’d feel a lot better if this game were going to be at Cowboys stadium because winning in Denver is always a tall order.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
For what it's worth,
TB and CAR had a combined 21-11 record last year.
by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 29, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Meanwhile, the Bengals, Browns and Raiders were (I believe) 10-38 last season
Actually that's exactly what the Steelers are saying
I’ve heard their coach make the statement that the SB they won last year is no more significant than the ones they won in the 70’s
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
-1
It’s a good talent gauge if turnover is small.
Of course, let’s not forget CAR D was decimated by injuries…but their O was pretty healthy, right?
I was referring to the amount of turnover every year
Raf has a post every pre-season that shows how predictable the NFL is. That is, every year something like 5 of the worst teams make the playoffs the next year. The teams mentioned here weren’t even the worst last year, they were bottom third (or tird if you like)
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Solid defense
efficient offense. Obviously good WRs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
you cant take away a teams 3-0..
And say it who they played…that’s in bad taste…they’re 1 game better than us..if we loose next week we’ll be 2…or even..
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 29, 2009 1:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What's up Chandus
I think that Romo is still getting into sync with the entire WR/TE squads, minus Witten. Roy Williams and Austin hasn’t had many throws their way either. Looks like Garrett is running more. Hey Raf, know what the run/pass stat percentage is at this point?
by torchindefenses on Sep 29, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
Really?
I thought he and RW11 are getting decently in sync. And he has good chemistry with Crayton, who BTW somehow looks faster and more slippery this year. He never really had those long receptions before did he? And since when did he gain more than 10 yards on a punt return? Or break tackles?
For the season 89 passes and 85 runs.
1st) 27 passes to 24 runs
2nd) 29 passes and 29 runs
3rd) 33 passes and 32 runs
KICK ASS every day!!!
ESPN commen-haters
My god. Someone please shoot Steve Young and Matt Millen. Actually, the whole of the sports mass media. Those guys are atrocious.
First I couldn’t believe comments before the game by Boomer Esiason — “Cowboys defense is horrible… can’t stop anyone…” Really? I understand our pass defense hasn’t been special, but did he realize they lost to the Giants after FOUR turnovers? And that they held the Giants rushing offense in check? Last I looked other defenses have yet to accomplish that.
Second, Steve Young gives no credit to the Cowboys AT ALL. His comments are about the entire team. He says we played sloppy, etc. Whatever happened to the idea that winners are the teams that win their sloppy games? And he completely disregards our rushing offense. TWO 200 yds games? That’s a huge achievement. What does Young say? “We’ve no play makers… he doesn’t believe the Cowboys can win this way.” Can anyone image what he would be saying if Pittsburgh had two games of 200 yds of rushing? Or if the GIants did? I can see the superlatives right now.
Third, Matt Millen. He’s telling us what it takes to be winner? ’Nuff said.
Did I write this post?
You nailed it. Especially the Matt Millen part. I could barely listen to what he was saying because all I could think about was the audacity he must have to get on national television and comment on other teams. He presided over one of the sorriest NFL stories of the last 25 years and he’s going to give advise to someone else? You can’t make stuff like that up.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I was OK with Matt Millen
at the very least he is 1 million times better at interviewing than that dork Bob Costas.
Matt Millen never explains his questions, lets the players talk. I like him in this role
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
do you mean Kornheiser?
cause Coastas on NBC.
Kornheiser is also a guy I don't like
haha they all have the same flaw, talking more than their interview subjects, and asking dumb pointless questions. Millen was substantially better
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, and what makes Kornheiser worse.......
is he has that northern nasal voice. Kinda irritating if you ask me.
They may let others talk
But Millen has a very well documented record of monumental failure. Seriously, my pride would not allow me to go on national television and comment on other teams if I failed on the scale he did in Detroit.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny I was thinking the same lastnight.
Ford the owner of the Lions took a jab at Millen after the win over the Skins. He said something like the team is being run right now.My thinking was how could you be stupid enough to keep that loser that long?
I think he just does TV well
never saw him play. Clearly he’s a poor manager, but he conducts pretty good interviews
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Only Man
to be a player, analyst, executive, and an official for the NFL. I think he sucked at 3 of the 4.
He was a good player.
Out of his league as a GM but hung around for awhile. Way too long.But it was the train wreck Lions.
I give Millen some credibility because he was a pretty good MLB
As a GM – Epic Fail
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I think he won four Super Bowl rings
with 3 different teams (even though I believe he was deactivated for the last one)
+1
I’m sure they said the same things about the Cardinals last season. A win is a win is a win… if you string enough of them together at the right time you will make it to the big dance. The Cardinals Forrest Gump there way into a Superbowl an THE ONLY play maker they have on Offense is Fitzgerald, Kurt Warner under a Steady pass rush is just like Drew Bledsoe with a quicker release (all those years of Arena Football with do that to you )
Now its not to say that Young point is completely garbage it has its merit however you can’t throw a blanket on it and say you CANT win if you are not this way. Especially only after 3 games into the season. The year the Giants won it all NOBODY in week 3 had them as Superbowl champs.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
And nobody thought they had offensive playmakers after they won the SB.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he actually had a good and smart play
When he prevented Williams from running out of bounds… Other than that, yeah, he pretty much sucks.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
If
the knock on him is that he isn’t physical enough, well I like his little sissy wrap up tackles than Newman and Jenkins trying to get all old school Roy Williams and going for the killshot!
But yeah, he sucks. He sucked on that one long run, total deer in headlights.
Hamlin too...
with the attempted “booty bump” tackle on Muhammed that got called back.
Anybody else notice......
how different Romo looked in the press conference? He ditched the weird hats and is wearing t-shirts and an old looking plaid jacket. Makes him look like a regular guy instead of some flashy “Jessica’s Boy”. I like the new look.
Romo has always dressed like that for home games
You’ll see the fancy stuff on the road when the players have to dress up.
In Romo we Trust
well, Terry, ya.....
need to get a memo to him and tell him to leave the gay hat home this year if that’s the case.
I just go by what my teenage sons say........
they thought the hat looked gay and they laughed hysterically when he has a little moustache showing on game day. It didn’t look that way last night but in one of the early pre-season games, it looked like he was trying to grow a moustache. If you knew my sons, you would think it was funny.
I thought he looked like he needed a make over
But hey, I loved the way he played.
He always looks to me like he’s trying to make a statement by the clothes he’s wearing. I’ve never understood that way of thinking. Just wear something nice or comfortable. To me clothes are best when they’re not noticeable.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah......
he went from looking over-dressed to almost homeless didn’t he? (I’m kidding)
A Make OVER???
… Please do not tell me you have Queer Eye for the Straight Guy on Speed dial… lol
Just kidding … you could have them on speed dial all you want if thats your thing…
Pleas don’t take me serious I’m just playin
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
That plaid shirt/jacket is actually pretty trendy right now
So I know he looks like a lumberjack, but the shirt probably cost $200+ and is pretty fashion-y.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
it is but I don't care for it
I’m over Pearl Jam
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I am the only one who heard it,
but the commenters on the pregame show actually knocked him for what he wore coming into the stadium because it was jeans and that plaid shirt.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 29, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Can Felix take the punishment
to be an every down back? Just maybe thats why the coaches limit his carries.
Nope
Doesn’t look like it, though I hear he was durable in college?
He should be a 7-10 carry/game guy. MBIII is still the man in Dallas (though he gets hurt a bunch too).
But
He could handle close to half the load.
Not sure he can even do that here (i.e. 12-15 carry/game).
I think...
McFadden got most of those carries in college.
he's weak in pass blocking too.
As Gruden was saying last night, that’s where Barber is being missed.
I found it interesting that he said
He used game film of Barber to show TB’s running backs how to pass protect.
I knew he was good at it, but damn…. that’s quite the compliment.
In his interview with Tafoya last night
Romo more or less called Felix out on his pass blocking without mentioning his name
I thought that was a classy “leader” move by Romo
by Urinal Mint on Sep 29, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Any guy with "urinal" in his name
Can’t judge class in someone else :)
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Any guy with "giants" in his name
Can’t judge urinal in theirs.. ;)……..jk..
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 29, 2009 1:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Felix
A friend of mine who is a huge college football fan told me in college Felix was known as a guy that wasn’t very smart playbook-wise. Maybe that’s why he doesn’t pick up blitzes as good as Barber and Choice. Not saying it’s true, just what I heard.
that is correct.......
he’s wonderful in certain situations, however, don’t diminish Choice and especially Barber for his pass blocking skills. That’s the weak point of Felix’s game.
Felix is a Lamborghini
fast as hell, fun to watch, but ultimately spends a lot of time in the shop
by Urinal Mint on Sep 29, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice screen name
When I awoke, the Dire Wolf
Six hundred pounds of sin
Was grinnin at my window
All I said was “come on in”
Spencer
Is he getting pressure at least? Or is it time to put Butler in obvious passing downs? He’s quick as hell!
To be honest...
That serious when Butler came in… It really looked like our Defense was Gassed, The Panthers were in hurry up and the only way we were able to get fresh legs in was because they made substitutions… Which was why I think Butler blew right pass the RT he was used to stopping a tired Spencer and in comes the rookie fresh off the bench.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Whatever works
but he did put the stamp on the victory.. He probably feels better than anyone in Dallas right now
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 29, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Fades
I’m guessing they practiced these a bazillion times in practice since Romo is usually miserable at them. Can’t blame him for the first one. Not sure about the second one but Bennett couldn’t beat the jam. I dunno if it’s the QB’s fault there or if the play depends on Bennett beating the jam (in which case it’s Bennett and Garrett’s fault).
And as another poster said, no Jaws, TO would’ve dropped that one too!
Kudos to the Defense. Garrett needs to be feakin' SLAPPED
The D showed up big time for this one. They allowed only one solid drive, and for some reason 2-minute offenses tend to be pretty effective.
Was it me or was Garrett the only one in the entire stadium who thought two straight fade routes was a good idea when the running game was positively SHREDDING Carolina’s defensive line?
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Sep 29, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions
Garrett had brain fart on the fade calls.
But outside of that I had no problem with most of the rest of the calls.
I agree
Let’s not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Garrett called a very good second half overall. He has our run game firing on all cylinders, which I love to see.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
well, besides the obvious........
is the fact that Wade ultimately gets blamed for these kind of screw-ups. Yeah, we won the game, but that was a major screw-up imo. If we had lost this game, the media would be pouncing on Wade for those two stupid plays back to back. They don’t go after boy genius but Wade. That’s my problem with this whole set-up. Jerry hires his OC and then Wade gets the blame for stupid plays etc. Enough of my rant, but this bugs me bacause Wade takes all the heat for these kind of screw-ups. You could see how angry he was when they called the second pass play. He has a right in my opinion.
I dont know ...
My thought is this Roy (6’3) being covered by a 5’10 DB is a high percentage play. He got both hands on it and he should have brought it down for the score.
Bennett 6’6 covered by a 6’2 LB is another High percentage play. These are the match ups that we all talked about we would see at the Goalline. My thought is that when Bennett motioned out when Romo saw single coverage his read was to go for the fade.
My other thought is if they had Barber in they may have felt a bit more comfortable about trying to slam the ball in there. But with only 1 healthy back do you really want to take that chance.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Sep 29, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
All I know is that after Jason called those two plays
I said that if we lost it would be on him because the second fade was an inexcusable play call.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Sep 29, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Why
is Bobby Carpenter on this team?
by icouldusesomebaseball on Sep 29, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
Hopefully J williams will come back soon and push him out of the lineup; or at least provide a option.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
man I hope so
I really hoped Bobby would step it up this year but so far I think we’ve all been pretty disappointed. Here’s to a healthy J. Williams not only taking his job, but dominating it.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
I was flabbergasted to see a guy coming around right end to sack Delhomme
his number wasn’t 94, and he looked like he was shot out of a cannon
what a sight for sore eyes
piss mint i agree 100%.
I was like what the deuce was that…
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 29, 2009 1:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Prevent
I liked Rex Ryans comment about the prevent defense,“the prevent defense will prevent you from winning the game.” I believe it as well. The prevent seems to give the other team too much of a chance to win the ball game.
Thats originally a John Madden quote
The Prevent only prevents you from winning
by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it is misused.
If you are up by 2 scores in the 4th quarter, it is an effective defense because, in theory, it takes away the outside of the field and the deep passes. It forces them to make plays in the middle of the field and burn the clock. Used for that purpose, it can be effective. Of course, your team has to make tackles and prevent them from getting out of bounds.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright squidster
you’re handing out those 1000s like beads at Mardi Gras..
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I live in the New Orleans area and have staggered home from more
than my fair share of Pa-raids.
The the problem is we won and Im in an agreeable mood.LOL!!
KICK ASS every day!!!
I lived for 5 years in Louisiana
Cool place. Is the state bird still the mosquito???
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Two Fades
I may not have liked the second fade call but I do understand it. When I saw Bennett split out left and he was in coverage one on one with a much shorter opponet I knew we had a real mismatch and we should have taken advantage of it.
Nice second half adjustments
The way the Cowboys came out in the second half after making mistake after mistake in the first half, allowing Carolina a 7-0 lead, was impressive.
This is exactly what the team needs to do from game to game. Look at all of the mistakes from the previous game and start fixing them.
I think you can point to clear improvements from games 1 to 2 to 3. We had some backsliding in game 2 with the turnovers. And we had some serious backsliding in this game with the penalties and not being able to put the ball in the end zone when we got close.
We are not close to a polished product yet. The key will be to keep getting better all the way into next year.
Does anybody think this next week against the Broncos will be easy?
It seems like it may become a recurring trend among opposing teams fans to think that the Cowboys are under-estimating thier next opponent. We saw it last week a little with Carolina, and it is already starting with Bronco fans.
I know I can’t speak for all Cowboys fans, but in my mind there are no “easy” games on our schedule. I certainly do not think the Cowboys are a team that can overlook anyone, nor do I think the team does.
Beware D-Ware
On the road in Denver,are you kidding.
They are 3-0 and I think they played all NFL teams in the 3 games. I hope no one overlooks this team,Dallas can’t overlook anyone they aren’t that good. This aint 1993
NFL TEAMS?
Browns…Raiders..
Nope dont think so, and as I recall they beat the Bengals my some late bs catch
by Love Me Some Me 1 on Sep 29, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
No offense
But yours is not a very mature point of view. There are NO easy games in the NFL. If you are so sure of a blow out, I suggest you call your bookie immediately and bet all your lunch money. The Raiders are significantly improved and those Bengals they beat on a bs catch just beat the Steelers.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
They have to have two playing. Russells’ easily got room for another human inside that gut.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
hahaha.....
aint that the truth. How would you like to be the poor DB that has to tackle him?
They would be correct.
Though we put a beat down on the Giants the number 1 or 2 team in most rankings.Carolina played their ass off in terms of hustle and effort. they were desperate and played that way.
KICK ASS every day!!!
I think people are underestimating
The Dallas Cowboys
Who the hell have the Broncos played or beat?
by Love Me Some Me 1 on Sep 29, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
I think its smart to treat everyone like they are dangerous.
They are in Denver. A notoriously hard place to play. If home field is worth 3 points then Mile high is worth 7. Thin air and loud as hell.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Gee, I wonder why
I’m still not sold, and won’t be sold until I see some solid consistency. Two wins over two now 0-3 teams is far from enough to make me consider this team a real contender. The real test has yet to begin.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
Fair point.
Its been nice to have this schedule to get our feet wet under our new offense.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Buehler
When does he start getting some looks at kicker, can we finally stop carrying 2 on the roster?
by icouldusesomebaseball on Sep 29, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
some time between now and never
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
Not sure what the stats are exactly
but it seems like Folk’s FG misses are eminently makeable. I might be wrong, though…
In preseason this year
Game 1 (OAK)
Buehler – 39 yard FG – Good
Game 2 (TEN)
Buehler – no attempts
Game 3 (SF)
Buehler – no attempts
Game 4 (MIN)
Buehler – no attempts
*It looks to me like the coaches are not even interested in his FGs, at least during preseason, he was only given 1 shot.
Overall, things are looking up, but I'm concerned a little with our wrs. They looked good the first game but since then, they seem to have problems getting open, almost no seperation at all.
I say we start making some noise for Ogletree. During preseason the kid looked like he’s got what it takes to run with the big dogs. I’d like to see us activate him one weekend and give him a chance.
by LouDogakaCypher on Sep 29, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
Agree
Roy, Crayton, and Ogletree is starting to sound a lot better than rotating Hurd and Miles. Ogletree is just about as fast as Miles, and will likely make for a better possession receiver AND will be able to stretch the field. He’s almost like a combination of Hurd and Austin. I think we’ll start to see him suit up soon if our 3 and 4 don’t step things up real soon.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
I hope they didn't screw up terminology
And call it a “strain” when it’s really a “sprain”!!
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Can you explain the difference to me please?
That is your role here afterall
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a athletic trainer like Mullin
but I believe a strain relates to a muscle and a sprain relates to a ligament
In Romo we Trust
Ok...
A “strain” is what happens to muscles and tendons
A “sprain” is what happens to ligaments
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Thanks
That clears me up…….well the confusion about sprains and strains anyway. Thanks guys.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you say confusion or contusion??
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Ok, we've had 3 different guys giving their take on it
Here’s mine:
Strain – muscles / tendons
Sprain – ligament
LOL
Since we're at it
Strain – number 2 (after roughage)
Sprain – number 1 (after a rough night)
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I wondered that too
Saw one kick return
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
You need to take that negative crap outa here Terry.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
I'm happy for the win but we have to be realistic
1. Carolina sucks. They have absolutely nothing and they were playing with at least 2 – 3 starters out….still, they were ahead 7-0 at the half.
2. Throw one deep ball into Jenkins = Interception, he turned for the ball, he saw the ball coming and he caught it right in front of Muhammad who’s taller and stronger than him. Throw one deep to Newman = Thank God the ball was poorly thrown and went to the left of Newman when the receiver was to his right….this should’ve been an easy pick but the guy still does not understand the concept of going for the ball.
3. Great play calling on some drives and then brain freezes…..It makes no sense at all to call for those two passes to Bennet and Williams from the 1.
What's going on with Gerald Sensabaugh
I never hear the guys name…. Everyone said the guys an athlete and he can cover, so what’s the deal?
Great evidence of
solid coverage, I think.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
It's a knee-jerk world my man
I try really hard to take the long view and not get emotionally involved as if the team “did something” to me personally. But it’s a hard to do for any fan…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
why would
anyone disparage a good performance? Same reason people disparage a poor performance.
Not saying they would
I’m saying they never praise him for good play, only criticize when he plays poorly.
In Romo we Trust
I thinks it is best to just call it like it is
When he plays crappy – say so
When he plays ok – say so
When he plays All-Pro – say so
don’t deny any of it – just call it like it is week in and week out
that I don't have a problem with
but there are a handful that don’t follow that protocol.
In Romo we Trust
When he keeps the bus between the guardrails, it's much quieter
No fumbles or int’s goes a long way toward turning down the volume.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 29, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
MRI today
Wade Phillips press conference today at 3 central
I'll save you the trouble
“He’s day to day”
Mark it down.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Espn is wrong again
One, maybe 2, not at least 2
Kudos to....
Romo, for finally taking off and running with the ball when his reads were covered. It adds another dimension to his game and frustrates a D when they have to account for him taking off.
WR’s, especially RW on blocking downfield. They aren’t getting a lot of passes thrown their way but they are blockiing consistently downfield. Helps the running game immencely when they block.
Igor, he’s the rock in line. Nice to know that he won’t get moved off the line consistently when run plays are called. He plays very physical in trenches. He won’t electrify when rushing the passer, but he’s darn solid in the run.
Brooking, he just brings that tuffness and attitude every play. Love his leading by example approach.
OL, they are whipping their guys in the trenches on run plays on a consistent basis. The OL is playing some good physical football. Teams are gettiing more tape to look at with regards to our run game and I suspect that they will start scheming to try and stop the run which will lead us for more opportunities to exploit the oppositions secondaries. Teams will come to the conclusion that they cannot allow us to run 200 yards a game and bleed their D. Not much risk for us pounding the rock if they are trying to get turnovers. They will try and put the game on Romo to do that. As long as Romo makes smart decisions with the ball, we are going to give the D’s fits all year long.
Finally Kudos to Felix Jones. Boy is it a pleasure to watch this guy put his foot on the gas. He gets thru the front 7 so quickly, its a track meet to chase the guy down. Only 1 pass to him out of the backfield and it went for 20 yards. That’s a play that Garrett is reserving in his back pocket for later in the year when teams are getting tired from playing week to week or when teams feel like blitzing us down after down. Send your blitzes and I send Felix on a swing route. I just hope his knee is ok.
appropos of nothing
but Julius Peppers may be the laziest best-paid football player ever. Free manhandled him on the one play Free was in. He’s 6’9" 290lbs and is a total, absolute freak athlete, and he could not care less about exerting any effort. I live in the Carolinas and they are ballistic. It’s fun.
I wonder...
will any team ever figure out the reverse play to Pat? Seems like he gets 15+ yards every time.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Sep 29, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone know where (or if) they're selling the Starter brand Cowboys hat that Romo wears in locker room interviews?
That’s the best looking Cowboy hat I’ve seen in some time.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
it's not a Cowboys Starter cap
It’s just a Starter cap, Romo has an endorsement contract with Starter.
In Romo we Trust
Does anyone else think...
Tim Hasselback is horrible on ESPN? Can’t believe he’s married to that hottie. Must be smoother with her than breaking down football.
Romo fasion concious????.....
Romo looked like he always looks…he is very goofy looking, and he has very little fashion statements for “real men” to follow, other than he got to do the blonde bimbos(Simpson, and Underwood, and Miss Missouri)…otherwise he is a frikkin stud on the football field…showed the Blackcats how the Wildcat is run(well once anyway!!!)…He screwed up mightily agaainst the Giants, but still ALMOST pulled it out in the end(tough breaks and T/O will do that to a team)…Still hollerin FEAR THE STAR…
by Hawgz, Bugz, and FilthyFowl Hater on Sep 30, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions
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