Might the Cowboys Make a Waiver Claim or Two?
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 12:33 PM CDT
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I think so. The team has already claimed a linebacker and a secondary player this week. I wouldn't be surprised to see more.
Injuries have wiped out the rookie class. Brandon Williams and Stephen Hodge are on IR. Jason Williams and Robert Brewster are going to miss time. Stephen McGee's development will stop now that the season starts.
Let's look at positions. Three of the four rookie linebackers are out. Those guys, Jason Williams and Hodge in particular, were counted on to bolster the special teams.
The Cowboys got a head start on waiver study since so many teams played on Thursday. Here are some spots I anticipate are being studied even harder this afternoon
Cornerback -- The Cowboys have three good ones in Newman, Scandrick and Jenkins. Did anybody after that impress you? Courtney Brown? Mike Mickens?
Not me. Corners are hard to come by this time of the year, especially young ones, but if a veteran shakes free, I doubt he would be worse that what we've seen. The dropoff from 3rd to 4th corner is massive.
Wide Receiver -- I saw quite a few bubble guys around the league who have some skills, and who could beat out any of the guys battling for the 6th spot. If Dallas wants to keep 6 receivers they might claim one. And the Cowboys may want six, with Sam Hurd and now Kevin Ogletree dinged up.
Defensive Line -- I doubt a decent veteran shakes free. The big street free agent names at the moment are greybeards like Vonnie Holliday, who may have no tread left on their tires. Still, there are teams like Seattle, who may have a surplus and might be willing to make a deal.
Last week I said the third teamers didn't impress me and some people wondered what I meant. Take last night's game as a test case. When the 2nd unit of Siavii, Bowen and Hatcher was in, the Vikings 2nd teamers could not run. As soon as Bowen and Hatcher came out, and Siavii worked with the 3rd team DEs, the Minnesota runners started gaining five, six and seven yards a try.
Offensive Line -- I say good things about them, and they reward me with a stinker. Dallas had all five backups in, something it didn't do last week, when the backups played well. Then, the 2nd team OTs worked with the 1st team guards and the 2nd team center.
I'm no longer ready to give Pat McQuistan the benefit of the doubt. That said, the pool of available prospects is awfully thin -- and old. There are veterans out there, thought many of them are rehabbing injuries. The Chiefs cut Damion McIntosh yesterday. I believe Mark Tauscher and Jon Runyan are still looking for teams. At this point I would rather have a gritty vet with a cartilage-deficient knee as my backup than a McQuistan or a Proctor.
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blush sounds good!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 5, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Second the motion for a grizzled vet.
Cut McQ.
4 years.
If we want a 6th receiver, bring in old quality-is Marvin H really vailable? What a guy to ‘tutor’ these young receivers.
Old and slow? So what? If he’s willing to take the role, he’s a 5th or 6th guy, all we need is a fw plays a game.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we bring another WR (or other vested veterans) might be after the first week, so
his salary is not guaranteed
by dcfanz on Sep 5, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harrison knee is shot ans he's lost a step
your fifth and sixth receiver won’t be active on game day anyway when your running a two tightend offense 50% of the time.
Thuis team will carry five receivers
hard to find a quality tackle
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A good guy to have at practice for Hurd/Austin/Ogletree (I hope he's there!)
No special team help though.
I doubt he’s interested in a deal like that anyway
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it's a waste of a roster spot
your fifth and sixth receiver roster spot, if we keep six, which I doubt has to be contribute on special teams, Harrison isn’t that..
Giants are deep at receiver position and have seven receivers on the roster, they’ll be looking to trade one or two i’m sure. I wouldn’y mind Moss as a slot receiver if he’s cut
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants just cut Tyree...
If we need a veteran/good special teamer, Tyree could fit the bill. He didn’t play last because of injuries.
by Joon on Sep 5, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Tyree a Probowl Special Teamer???
I had forgotten about that. That would be reason enough to sign him.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cut Stanback
Sign Tyree to be the #6 ( Assuming, of course, that the ‘Boys plan to keep 6), and you instantly upgrade WR, heavily upgrade ST, and piss off every Giants fan in America. It’s win-win-win!
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by BigDinSC on Sep 5, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not even gonna say anything but this
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Hurd
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
neat
the only number that doesn’t look similar is the amount of years played and the amount of production of the guys ahead of him.. T.O., T.G., Witten?? Get a clue
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must not teach math where you are from
Number of years played is why the averages are almost exactly the same:
Tyree: 11 catches per year for 130 Yards per year
Austin: 6 for 118
Hurd: 8 for 130
It doesn’t matter who he was behind. He was the bottom of the Giants’ roster and Hurd and Austin are the bottom of ours. That isn’t a virtue for Austin and Hurd.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't have any problem replacing Hurd or Austin, or both
to me, we’re just spinning our wheels with those two
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
players should improve
he did not. In fact his production only went down since his first year in 2003. Catch my drift? Need a drawing?
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he also played behind pro bowl caliber WR's...you guys kill me..
by My_2_Cents on Sep 5, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plax and Toomer are not T.O. and T.G.
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harrison is cooked
A scout told me he should have retired when the Colts on the Super Bowl.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does the vet have to be grizzled?
Marvin’s asking for more than $3MM. That’s a bit much for a 6th receiver, no?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on Sep 6, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on
Hurd and Tree? Eye contusion doesn’t sound bad, but what do I know…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Sep 5, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
unconfirmed but I heard
K O has a concussion as well
anybody know more?
by Simon Potter on Sep 5, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ogletree said after the game he was fine
Wade said Hurd and Austin are fine and ready to go
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deke whrere ya been?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Sep 5, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was so jumping for Joy when this club rid themselves of the cancer and the thong
and the rest of the criminals and whiners from this team that I celebrated for six month’s on a tropical island…LOL
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!!
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by silverblue5 on Sep 5, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every team has injuries
We just have to deal.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Runyon & Colombo on the same O-Line?
I don’t believe that much nastiness should be allowed on one team.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CB is my biggest bugaboo.
That’s where I think we have 3 and a void. You guys know that won’t cut it in today’s NFL. We need at least a decent backup or two until Ball comes back, I’d even settle for a Nate Jones (so long as he isn’t in the top 3).
by mdlusk on Sep 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When is Ball coming back
He gives a decent #4 corner. He’s not that good. But I doubt we can upgrade him off the waiver wire.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's also a better FS backup than Watkins and plays special teams
He’s the only quality d-back backup right now. I’m happy Watkins had a big game but do you trust him to do it again?
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I trust Watkins to do is.....
…..To commit another egregious penalty at some point like his moronic “12 men on the field penalty” against the ’Skins last season.
by MadMick on Sep 5, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not against starters in the NFL
I see a star in the making-for the new
UFL or whatever it is!
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting that he had his biggest games against minnesota (even though last one didn't count being preseason and all)
anyone remember stickman’s blocked FG return for a TD against da Vikes at home two years ago?
now i can’t remember who blocked it. was it Canty or Spears… or was it Adams?
somebody help me.
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by silverblue5 on Sep 5, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i first thought when trying to remember
after all, he is 6ft, 7in.
thanks mic!
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by silverblue5 on Sep 5, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Ball will be okay, but after he returns
and I think we still need a #5 after him. We don’t need to upgrade Ball, just upgrade Mickens, etc.
by mdlusk on Sep 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mickens
could end on the practice squad, if they can find an upgrade. I doubt any other team will claim him with his knee history and shaky performance so far, but I still think the team likes his potential if he can get a year on the squad and maybe be called up later on if needed.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you need for a #5 corner is a warm body
whom you hope will improve. Mickens fits that bill. He made some good plays and he made some horrible plays. I’m comfortable with that as our #5 if he can play Special Teams. If he can’t, find somebody who can. It isn’t hard to replace a #5 corner.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I was just about to post this... What about Ball?
He’s our 4th CB, and seems like he’s decent in that role, and is way ahead of Brown and Mickens. With him, I don’t think the dropoff after the first 3 is that bad, it’s the dropoff after him that is steep. And his concussion shouldn’t be a long-term issue.
But since the team has already been active on the wire with CBs DeAngelo Willingham and Jeremy Hayne, I’m sure they’ll be keeping an eye out for others today.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ball is solid, and developing, better than Reeves and Nate Jones at this point
We had to activate from the practice squad last year because teams were sniffing around at signing him.
Watkin’s should of been shown the door last year, but stays agaiin this year for awhile because of hamlins injury, but once Hamlin is healthy, Watkins could be gone soon after.
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I mean about Ball
I mean that we need stopgaps until he returns, and a Jones or Reeves would be adequate for that role (just NOT top 3!) Then we also need a 5th CB. Mickens and Brown deserve to be cut.
by mdlusk on Sep 5, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can pick up CB Anthony Madison waived by the Steelers
he seems to be good for special teams according to scout.com
by mdlusk on Sep 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
Watkins is one of their best special teamers, and provides the versatile backup at both S positions. Even though he may not be great at either, my guess is that he’s here for the long term.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't bet money on it
otherwise you’ll be broke
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erik Williams and Kevin Gogan played together
you can never have enough OL nastiness.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to have Runyan if for no other reason trhan to piss of BYe Dawk
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Sep 5, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol, but then he'd be "old and washed-up"
and our OL would still be the subject of his rants.
by mdlusk on Sep 5, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't need him to start
just be ready in a pinch.
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McQ would be gone if it wasn't for Brewster's injury
hard to find a decent tackle on the waiver wire, so I think he stays for another year, unfortunately
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MN may have been a scouting opportunity
Watching the NFL network telecast, it seems they have some good backups in some of our areas of need. I’d be interested if we pick up some of those guys.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to add
who are on the bubble and may hit the street today.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for RB's that get cut
Every team seems to be deep at RB and there are already lots of good RB’s on the street.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I second that, RB seems to be a very deep position in football, lets see if Lattimore makes it to the PS
anyone knows when our cuts will be released?
by dcfanz on Sep 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along those lines
Is Julius Jones really that good / Edge that bad that Edgerrin James has to act humble about being Julius’s backup????
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8122a7cd&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true
If JuJo is their starting RB, and Edge is so bad that he can’t challenge, then Seattle could use a guy like Lattimore or any of the guys being cut today.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lattimore will be picked up by someone
like to get him on the practice squad, just don’t see it happening. Edgerrin James is old and lost a step, not much left on those tires,
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edge is pretty dang old in running back years.
Plus he spent the last three years running behind a Cards line that didn’t give him nearly as much room to operate as the Colts did.
by MadMick on Sep 5, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
off topic, but Giants waved Tyree, what an irony for his career
by dcfanz on Sep 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that kind of catch from that kind of player only comes once in a millennium
Even the Giants know it. Flukiest SB win in history imo. That said I’m glad the pats lost. The smug was thicker than L.A. smog
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of reminds me ex-skins rb-timmy smith
who had da game of his career against Denver in that Doug Williams-led Washington SB win.
then, the following season got cut.
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by silverblue5 on Sep 5, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he end up in Cowboys camp at some point?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Sep 5, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Austin and Ogletree both "fine" - should be ready for opener
from Rob Phillips this is good news, sounds like the team is just being extra cautious with Austin as “his hamstring was a little tight” rather than actually being injured, and unlike the other “injured” players he made the trip to MN. And according to Rob, Jerry says “he doesn’t foresee Austin being unable to play the Sept. 13 regular-season opener at Tampa Bay.”
Also Ogletree “sat the rest of the game after suffering an eye bruise in the second quarter. He said afterward he’s fine.”
Even Hurd just has a “sore quad” he’s resting.
I know we’re all worried about the health of our WRs, with all of the projected 5 except Crayton having some kind of health issue, but in all cases they seem relatively minor, more in the “hurt” than “injured” category and they should all be ready to suit up against Tampa Bay.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to be optimistic w/ Austin
But those are the kind of injuries that linger and recur.
And he’s been a victim of them in the past. You’re better off with a broken bone than hammie problems.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've given Austin too long to be a star
and he’s teased us too long with flashes of brilliance. Remember last year when Jerry told him that he was supposed to replace Terry Glenn…. How did that turn out?
Of the 700+ guys that will be cut today, there will be several WRs that are younger, faster, better route runners with better hands than Austin. The only question is whether we will be brave enough to replace him with one of those guys.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I'd go that far
I’m all for cutting Scandrick, but I’ve seen more from Austin. He’s been around this team and knows the offense. He’s made plays when he’s been in.
But, if they did cut him-and bring in someone decent, I guess I wouldn’t scream.
If we keep Scandrick I will.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only assume you mean Stanback
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Sep 5, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude! yeah-I keep doing that!
Def. Stanback
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we keep Scandrick I will.
I think you meant Stanback. Otherwise we have a big argument on our hands. Maybe I’m too harsh. But we all need to realize that Hurd and Austin are bottom-of the roster guys and are easily replaceable.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
easily replaceable?
where’s the damn mute button
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right sublimezg.
6 catches for 118 yards per season (Austin) and 8 for 130 (Hurd) is irreplaceable. Nobody else in the league can put up those kind of numbers.
As Irvin said, by your 3rd year, you are what you are. Neither of these guys will ever be probowl receivers. They will probably never crack a starting lineup barring injury. They are bottom-of-the-roster hangers-on. Worse still, because they’ve been around for awhile, it is certain that they have lost the fire that it takes to make a team as an undrafted FA. They are too comfortable. There are tons of receivers out there that are equal to or better than these guys.
They are fine backups with intriguing skills. All I’m saying is these kind of guys need to be churned every few years when we realize they won’t be starters.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This organization has spent more time drafting kickers and tightends than they have receivers to develop over the last three years
and that’s the reason why he have had to go out and sign a Cancer and trade for Williams. The Eagles and Giants have spent the last three years drafting and developing receivers to push older or non productive receivers out, Dallas has not..
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
That is why it sucked that we essentially threw this year’s draft away on LB’s and DB’s who will never start when we had glaring needs at DT, O-Line and WR.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well when you find a 4th and 5th receiver that puts up amazing stats u just go ahead and get back to me
the reason they don’t put up good stats is cuz they barely see the field and when they do they have big dogs with big contracts in front of them.
I’m not saying they are amazing but you’re not gonna find these guys just anywhere as you would have us believe. IN fct in the several years they’ve been here we’ve seen many “churner guys” come in and get churned out cuz they weren’t as good as Hurd and Austin. Ogletree is the first in some time and even he’s not gonna take their spots any time soon.
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
yes you can find Hurds and Austins just everywhere. They’re pedestrian WRs. You’re biased because you’re a Cowboys fan.
by Joey2zs on Sep 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so then you'd be comfortable cuttng them
and picking up a couple of waiver guys after cuts?
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1,000,001 Jimmy J....Why rose colors don't see this is beyond me...They would both be 4th-5th-6th on any other roster in this league, if that..
Guys…These two “youngins” <—-4th year? aren’t the next coming of Drew Pearson…I assure you…Not even sure if they’re Butch Johnson worth of comparison..
by My_2_Cents on Sep 5, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Butch Johnson
The Tyree of his generation!
12 catches in ’77, but that great SB catch.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs another season
If he pulls a Stanback this year, the experiment is over and Hurd should be number three.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Sep 5, 2009 2:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hurd has looked good to me in the limited amount I have seen him in preseason and the one day I went to training camp
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by Seanrude on Sep 5, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Rudy, I didnt know, but his qb rating for last night was 105.1
I’m sad to say that he’s gonna be another Matt Moore. Second year in a row we are gonna
release a capable back up QB, because of a number crunch.
by dcfanz on Sep 5, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He reminded me of Romo on a couple of those plays that broke down.
it’s possible he clears waivers to make the psquad, but I wouldn’t count on it. It would be nice if he could push checkdown McGee next offseason. Don’t forget though, Rudy was playing against the scrubbiest of the scrubs
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about we put McGee on IR and keep Rudy on the 53 man roster?
by dcfanz on Sep 5, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm down with that.
Kid showed some versatility after he got warmed up and in the swing of things. Remember he’s had the least practice snaps of anybody.
I liked his accuracy and touch, and that little move to duck under that rusher to buy time, and that little drop down of his throwing arm to get in that lane to the TE at the five.
How many can we keep on IR by the way?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Sep 5, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGee needs the reps
he’s not going on Ir, his knee isn’t serious
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rather sign Rhett Bomar to the practice squad than Carpenter
Giants released him today
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
btw, welcome back deke.
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by silverblue5 on Sep 5, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks silver
good to be back and it’s always better when Football is back
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah welcome back
just in time for real football
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from what I read he sucked, biggy time
by bad knees on Sep 5, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bromm sp? got let go by GB he look ok, from what i saw..
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Sep 6, 2009 1:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever saw the game, did Choice look good?
What’s up with his stats against backups?
I’d expect more from him than 3 yards a carry, and he hasn’t impressed in the other games either.
Also, did Crosslin run well? He’s making it hard between him and Deon.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Crosslin isn't making this team
Crickets job is safe.
Choice is fine and will see limited action this year, maybe 6 to8 carries a game, if that and the rest is special teams
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Choice didn't look so good
He had terrible blocking and tried, unsuccessfully to bounce a few running plays outside. All of the offensive production with Kitna was through the air.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
backup oline
yeah just keep in mind he was running behind backups as well, really hard to make any significant judgments from that.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Raf statement said it all
At this point I would rather have a gritty vet with a cartilage-deficient knee as my backup than a McQuistan or a Proctor.
Wow.
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by silverblue5 on Sep 5, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping that would happen and you KNOW we're gonna be his first choice
unless of course a team offers the #3 CB spot or better
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
last year he was in a close contest with Ball
for that last CB spot and I think a lot of us thought he had the edge. The Rotowire item says “He’s strictly a speacial teamer.” But as the #5 CB, he’d be an upgrade, and we need the ST help as well. I bet they put in a claim on him.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ogelsby would be ideal signing...after week 1..if he can wait....The ONLY reason Jerry cut him last year(big mistake) was cuz he is due the vet min contract ...close to 1 million....
He would be a perfect 4-5 CB/special teamer…
by My_2_Cents on Sep 5, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Holley, carpenter, manny Johnson made prac squad"
that’s a tweet from MartyB. Good to see Holley in there.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry. I hit post, looked up and saw your post.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thought there was a 24 hour wavier period?
by bad knees on Sep 5, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
teams have 24 hours to place a claim
but I think they can also waive their claim, so if all 31 teams waived a claim before the 24 hours, they would be able to go on the PS. at least I think that’s how it works.
by scottmaui on Sep 5, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carpenter??
Bobby on PS?
Or did I miss another Carpenter?
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duh-Rudy.
Never mind-Sounded crazy to me!
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy, Manny, and Holley made the PS
According to MartyB
https://twitter.com/Jupiters_Crunch/status/3785092953
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MartyB also said there were some surprises
I wonder who this year’s surprise cuts (and keeps) will be. I guess we’ll find out shortly.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like it's cut day for me
I’m actually a bit nervous haha
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so let down about Free!
how dare you guys for giving me hope!
by bad knees on Sep 5, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who will post them 1st
Traditional media? Local Papers, ESPN, NFLN, etc.
Or a blog? DCFanatic brought us the first news from MartyB’s Twitter.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a weird feeling the Ravens are going to get Matt Jones
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he should of been brought in here for a look a month ago
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Cowboys don't sign guys with drug problems
how hard is that to understand?
by Rafael Vela on Sep 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but they sign criminals, convicts and team cancers
those guys get numerous chances, but someone that’s actually done everything to turn things around don’t…… I guess Michael Irvin gets a pass…. ones that take steps to turn their life around, deserve second chances or even a look….
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry seems kinda bi-polar on the issue
He goes through phases:
1. Character doesn’t matter, I want ball players – We go out and sign every thug who seems to have some talent. We tolerate everything that comes along with it – including their influence on younger players.
2. No more thugs – Jerry cleans house and avoids talented guys who are character risks.
There has to be some space in the middle. I’m not saying we should necessarily create that space for Matt Jones. But Jerry needs to maintain some type of balance between the two. (Or else, choose one and go with it. Stop vacillating between the two extremes.)
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I do not think that JJ gave Mike a pass, but that Mike set the example and from that point on JJ has stayed away.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Sep 5, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any cuts on the waiver wire that stand out to you Raf?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Sep 5, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't the cuts have to be in in like... 9 minutes?
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagles cut Bryan Smith
a 3rd round DE from 2008. Undersized 4-3 DE, but might have the right size for a 3-4 OLB.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I swear I'm not reposting from DCF
I saw the posting on PFT that the Eagles cut him.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanback gone
by tasan on Sep 5, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here we go
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry.
Did it again.
No huge surprises. Except the 2 cincy kids getting cut.
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Injured Reserve:
Stephen Hodge
Waived:
Travis Bright
Courtney Brown
Rudy Carpenter
Scott Chandler
Julius Crosslin
Marcus Dixon
Tearrius George
Ryan Gibbons
Jeremy Haynes
Jesse Holley
Mike Jefferson
Manuel Johnson
Keon Lattimore (waived/injured)
Mike Mickens
Willie Reid
Derreck Robinson
Asaph Schwapp
Jonas Seawright
DeAngelo Smith
Isaiah Stanback
Matt Stewart
DeAngelo Willingham
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see Stanback is gone and SO HAPPY to see Courtney Brown gone…
by Philosopher on Sep 5, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Somehow
Proctor survives the cut. Along with McQuistan.
For now, anyway. I hope they don’t get too settled in.
by kindablue on Sep 5, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Proctor is a turnstile. He needs to go
by Philosopher on Sep 5, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing DeAngelo Williams is on PS, along with Carp, Manny, and maybe Mickens Crosslin
Tom Grieve is my hero.
by tasan on Sep 5, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't say I'm upset about any of those cuts
Glad they finally called it quits with Stanback. How does Proctor keep holding on???
by sublimezg on Sep 5, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That surprised me too
Does anybody know anything about C Kory Lichtensteiger from Denver? What about Melvin Fowler who got cut by the Cards?
by ChrisRichey on Sep 5, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta have someone better to replace him, I guess
How many OLinemen are left?
Probably still some shuffling to go on there.
As Blue said, Proctor shouldn’t get too settled yet.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vikes cut CB Marcus McCauley
I wouldn’t mind bringing him in, he has shown flashes
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dixon was making some plays earlier in preseason and has looked good.
A little surprised at that one, w/ all the injuries at LB.
by Realist Larry on Sep 5, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's injured too, Practice squad. i really like the kid
my pet after all he went through
by Deke on Sep 5, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So where does that leave our Roster?
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
4 CB's
Guess that means we are going for Ogletree
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like DMN's projection
Only we kept Proctor and cut the CIncy Kids. Yeah. sorry. I meant Oglesby.
So right now:
OL:10
CB: 4
S: 4
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is our 52
QB (3)
Tony Romo
Jon Kitna
Stephen McGee
RB (3)
Marion Barber
Felix Jones
Tashard Choice
FB (1)
Deon Anderson
TE (3)
Jason Witten
Martellus Bennett
John Phillips
WR (5)
Roy Williams
Patrick Crayton
Miles Austin
Sam Hurd
Kevin Ogletree
OL (10)
Flozell Adams
Kyle Kosier
Andre Gurode
Leonard Davis
Marc Colombo
Montrae Holland
Duke Preston
Pat McQuistan
Doug Free
Corey Proctor
NT (2)
Jay Ratliff
Junior Siavii
DE (4)
Igor Olshansky
Marcus Spears
Stephen Bowen
Jason Hatcher
OLB (5)
DeMarcus Ware
Anthony Spencer
Steve Octavien
Victor Butler
Curtis Johnson
ILB (4)
Bradie James
Keith Brooking
Bobby Carpenter
Jason Williams
CB (4)
Terence Newman
Orlando Scandrick
Mike Jenkins
Alan Ball
S (4)
Ken Hamlin
Gerald Sensabaugh
Michael Hamlin
Pat Watkins
SPEC. (4)
P Mat McBriar
K Nick Folk
K David Buehler
LS L.P. Ladouceur
by JimmyJohnson on Sep 5, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marvin Harrison
To the person who said he could mentor the young guys? Are you kidding, he’s said to be another T.O. kind of guy, but the Colts kept it quiet. Not only that, Harrison has a big ego that demands big money for an old guy who doesn’t have the speed he used to.
by Why on Sep 5, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NO MANNY JOHNSON. Dam, saw him having potential, and an impact in the future. Rather cut Proctor or McQ to make room for him.
by Why on Sep 5, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
martyb said he and holley made the pc
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Sep 5, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesse Holley, I love that name. Holley could be worth something in the future as well, he’s got the athletic ability.
by Why on Sep 5, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From the movie " The Green Beret" : " It Sings"
Holley’s Follies!
by bad knees on Sep 5, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CBS Sportsline reports.....
Jesse Holley will make the practice squad. I’m trying to get another source to confirm this.
by Road Warrior on Sep 6, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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