The Dream Is Over: Cowboys Bludgeoned By Vikings 34-3
by Dave Halprin on Jan 17, 2010 3:15 PM CST
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The Dallas Cowboys went to the Metrodome and got totally dominated by a Minnesota Vikings squad that was in peak form. The Cowboys lost 34-3, mainly because of a Vikings front-four that bullied and bludgeoned a potent Cowboys offense into submission. There were other problems - turnovers, missed FGs - but those were just symptoms, the disease was the Vikings big-uns up front. After Dallas squandered a couple of good drives to start the game, the Cowboys defense had an uncharacteristic yip when Sidney Rice got deep, and they could never get back on top. The Vikings sacked Tony Romo six times, had him on the run on numerous other plays, and when Dallas did manage to get anything done, Shaun Suisham missed twice, crushing any momentum. Brett Favre and Sidney Rice took care of the rest.
It’s a bitter end to what was a very good season. The Cowboys at least won a playoff game, that hurdle has been cleared. They just weren’t ready to step up to the elite in the NFL; when the opportunity presented itself at the beginning of the game, they let it pass instead of grabbing it by the throat.
There’s no way around it, they got out-classed by a Vikings team that was ready to play. After taking a few Dallas jabs to start the game, they danced the Cowboys around the ring, landing blow after blow. The Cowboys spent the game on the ropes, running for cover.
The offseason has begun. Soon, after a proper mourning period, we’ll start looking towards free-agency and the draft. It’s not the way we wanted it to end, but end it has. The only solace I can find is to look forward. Maybe next year, at home in Cowboys Stadium, will be our Super Bowl re-birth.
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Ed. Note: Don’t lose your composure on the blog. There is no reason you’re madder than anybody else on here, so don’t act like you have to have special rules for your anger. Stay cool. Thanks.
Ed. Note II: That TD at the end doesn’t bother me, we kept going for it on 4th down. It’s just the game of football.
Ed Note III: Vikings fans, you can discuss the game, but please don't troll. We're naturally a little touchy right now. Trying to stir it up will lead to bans. You guys won, you crushed us, please cut us some slack.
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The TD at the end bothered me
What can be done about it? Nothing, and it was their choice to rub it in or not.
I only hope Favre’s career is ended next week by someone on the Saints.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
Yep. I personally hate that egomaniac Favre. Never liked the guy. Now it's personal.
by Mr._Mulligan on Jan 17, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
+1...that was totally unnecessary...
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 3:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It did not bother me in the least. But remember, KARMA is a bitch.
That old adage, “what goes around, comes around” comes to mind.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Ask Brady how he felt on the sideline watching Cassel play.
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
Yeah, because we're known as a team who runs up the score.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
by Lord Humungus on Jan 17, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
typical favre
the most overrated-future-hof-qb-ever, loves to throw those td passes…especially when the game has already been decided
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
I'm ok with it...
if we didn’t want them to score, it’s up to us to not let it happen.
by jdramirez on Jan 17, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, who cares? He didn't do it every game to every team.
He has a lot of Cowboy demons. He might think he exorcised some of them.
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
You would have a different opinion if the
ball was intercepted and returned for a TD
The job of the offense is to score a TD or get 10 yd within 4 down… I do not see an issue
In Basketball, whenyou are up 20 with 3 minute to play, you do not complain about the leading side scoring
In Baseball, there is no problem with a 9th inning HR, when you are up by 10
Why is this an issue
Completely different situations
poor analogy
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
So you think they should have said
because we are thrashing your ass, we will play at half speed and make it less embarassing on you and punt on first down
If anyone had any competative spirit, that would be worse
There is no rule in the game that you cannot go for it on 4th down, there is a penalty that if you do not suceed, you lose the ball
Obviously I dont think they should punt on 1st down.
I just believe that when a game is definitely won, it is proper to run down the clock, which is a reasonable opinion.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
first
To say it was a good year and I enjoyed the ride…
go Cowboys, win/lose/draw….
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 3:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You bet
First giant monkey was removed from Dallas’ back. Next year, we’ll have a great team coming back.
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
+ infinity
Success to build upon is always good.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Yea great year but cant lie didnt want to go home....................
This team did a lot they prove a lot……….They fought with there backs on the wall….Im proud of my boys………..we got a monkey of our backs… we just got out match………I blame no one even tho i seen sum busted plays………….bc the vikings just out play us.
I was dismayed here and there, but I still have the Saints game on my dvr...
and both Eagles game… those will help me through the bad times.
Man this sucks
there’s always next year though.
we had 44-6
you had 58-14
now we want an eagles SuperBowl win in Dallas next season
Please...
get off our board.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Vikings should have run the ball on 4th down
No class.
Go Saints
That is what Wade woulda done. Guess he lacks the killer instinct.
by Mr._Mulligan on Jan 17, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
the killing had already pretty much been done....no need for killer instinct.....what they did was
more analogous to taking a dump on the carcase
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Tea-bagging the carcus...
Taste those balls…
I'm rooting for the Chargers (mirror image of the Cowboys) or the Colts
because I like Peyton.
I really don't like Rivers
So I am hoping for a Jets-Saints SB.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I hate the Jets.
They seem like even worse behaved Giants fans.
Haha
I have no problem with them. I have never met one.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not Happy
But we got the playoff win. W get a team that we can root for. And I think we got a very obvious look at what to work on in the offseason…the offensive line!
I'm glad we got some of the monkeys off the back...
I wonder if people are going to blame Romo for this loss. He has zero time to throw and the running game was mostly ineffective.
Here's to next year!!
It’s all over this year but at least we have given ourselves a great platform to build off next year.
Thanks Grizz
and the BTB team for running a great blog and creating the space for all of us fans to share this season, the ups and the downs.
+1
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
+5
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
+Aikman
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
who?
oh, that guy that wasn’t even mentioned during the entire game because he was literally invisible?
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
that is not fair
they talked about how crappy he is
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think he had a catch.
That’s a shame… I hope he is more productive next year.
maybe Jerry can trade RW for Marshall and a draft pick....I know..Im dreaming
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Or for a pack of gum or a box of condoms or for a bottle of farts or......
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Marshall is a problem child.
At least Williams accepts his role. But I was telling the wife that he is just a void out there on the field. It’s awful.
Marshall Is A Criminal
no good scumbag; he is the worst of TO, Pacman and Vick and Tank. No thanks to this POS
at this point in his career he would do anything i think
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
My problem is that he could already be a Cowboy
if we had traded for him instead of RW. Just a horrible, horrible trade.
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Don't Think So
I was under the impression nothing like that would happen because Arizona was intent on signing him back that year. People went to them at the draft with offers for him & Arizona turned ‘em down. He wasn’t gettable then, maybe more attainable now
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Boldin was on the market and Philly was interested as was other teams
the problem was Arizona wanted too much…Arizona never came out and admitted it, but the rumors were flying he was on the block. I think they wanted a first and second at the time…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
I didn't want to give up that much for a WR
but I’d have rather given that up for a proven WR than what we gave up for a guy who looked like a bust like we did.
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I hear they were willing to take a 3rd and
some other things because they have no intention of resigning him.
I still say
…this is a good ramp up to next year. A few changes in the Oline, a step up by Fcat and Tree, and we might be looking at a home Super Bowl… plus we get the Vikes in the regular seson for a little Philly-style payback…
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Do we play them... maybe if Favre wins the Super Bowl he will finally hang it up.
I don’t think Tavaris Jackson makes that pinpoint perfect pass over the shoulder of Sensabaugh. That was SICK!
Its professional sport so they can do that BUT
I do believe it was classless. Karma is a bitch too. That act alone will make me root hard for the saints next week.
It's well within their right
but it’s withing their control to be a good sportsman. I know for a fact Wade wouldnt’ have done that.
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exactly
We could have tried something like that the last 2 weeks but we didnt. But as Paul says Karma’s a bitch and Favre will get his
Sure hope so
We get a shot at these guys next year. Can’t wait
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
True dat
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
WOnder if Jerry gets it finally that the O-line is just very poor
Really poor.
The last TD was bush league. Dallas has no room to complain as a team because they should have manned up to stop it, but that doesn’t mean that going for the GTD in fional seconds was anything but poor sportsmanship on Childress’ part.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I want him back next year
even if Jason Williams goes off at the ILB position, I still want Brooking back.
he's a good leader.
let him retire w/ a star and then coach ILBs
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Completely agree...
I think a lot of questions about this team have been answered or at least partially explained, but the offensive line is one position that hasn’t been. They sold Tony out again and again and Marc Colombo in particular played terrible (since when has pushing a guy as he runs by been acceptable technique). The only real bright spot I think has to be Free, who I thought handled Allen reasonably well once he had to go in for Flo.
As for the TD, I completely agree on it being bush league. The game had ticked down and it was clear we weren’t going to win. To run a play action pass for a TD to your first string TE is absolutely a classless play. I hate having to root for the Saints, but that is the only choice I can make when faced with Brett Favre (my number one least favorite player of all time) on the other sideline.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Well, as a tackle, you push your guy outside of the pocket, but Tony couldn't step up
into the pocket because there was a ton of pressure coming up the middle… so it was just all round bad.
+1
so it was just all round bad.
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
True...
But I was talking about the fact that Colombo only did that. In other words, he hardly moved his feet at all before just trying to use his arms to push the guy around Tony. That is not good tackle technique.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think he gets that it needs to be fixed
I just don’t think he’s done a good job of fixing it. Hopefully, this will be the year where we actually draft a good O-lineman or two. Instead of career practice squad guys.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Gawd, Kosier looked awful.
And Colombo’s feet were stuck in cement.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
once Flozell went out the OL went to crap...we knew that was going to happen....
You cant underestimate the importance of the LT..They were doing fine until that point…give the vikings credit..they smelt blood once Flozell went out and they took advantage of it
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
No, Colombo was getting schooled by Edwards before Flo went down
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
+1 but he might have been pulled for Free who is faster but Flos injury sealed that.
KICK ASS every day!!!
i was screaming for Free to replace Colombo,
but when Flozell went out, we knew we were going to be hurting.
the good news is that i think we got a look at our new LT
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
he was struggling some I agree, but the wheels fell off once Flozell went out..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
this line isnt changing either because of their contracts so get used to it for one more season
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Yeah, I was one of the ones calling for Free to replace Columbo in the 1st quarter
but after Flo got hurt it was a moot point
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
i think we ot a good look at our new starting LT in Free
what’d you think? he wasn’t as bad a Colombo…
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think so
I’d like to look at the game again but it seemed like once Free got the speed of the game down on the left side he did well. Unfortunately, the rest of the O-line still played like crap
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
He didnt play bad, but I think we know Flozell is still a really good LT in this league...
I dont think the line will change at all next year, but if there is a spot it could be LG…I think we need an upgrade there.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Raf keeps saying that Brewster would be starting at LG if he hadn't been hurt
but I have no idea. I’d like to see him get a shot
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
That would be great.
Free at Left, then Brewster, then Gurode, then Davis and either flo or Colombo at right. Keep both for depth. I’d be happy if that mix produced.
I don't know if this would happen
but a few years ago I watched Flo play RT in the Pro Bowl. He looked like a natural
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
He won't have to be as quick.
So that might eliminate some of the false starts he is known for.
Plus he's not deaf in his left ear
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Flo gets to escape the blame game... he was out most of the game, but I certainly
would be in favor of upgrading the left side of the line.
The o-line is NOT poor
They got beat by the better team on that day. I really don’t know why you would say that. Who the hell are we going to get that is a major upgrade in one season. They have to come in & make an impact. This team isn’t built to win years on down, it’s built for the here & now, & I can’t see any free agents that are major impact guys, much less major upgrades on the solid 6 we already have. I’m down with depth at the position, but to just blow the line up because they had a bad game seems a little irrational
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Just to let ya'll know
I’m Dallas’s GM in MockingTheDraft, and SB nation blog, 32 team mock draft.
It starts today, and I’ll post the final results of the draft when it comes out.
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Nah
Jerry only gave me the title of GM on the condition that I wouldn’t be paid.
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That's weird Q
Usually he overpays for guys who underperform and now he’s underpaying for an over-achiever. Rock the team, man.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
LOL
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Get us a G/T will ya?
Be interesting to see where Shipley goes, too.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
yeah that will prolly be my first pick
unless Golden Tate falls
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Oh wait…
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
If I have a say...
trade down. There is a bunch of talent in the early to mid rounds. 2nds and 3rds are both value and talented.
I would asseme that decision should be made
based on who is there when we pick
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
How will they determine when the final four teams pick?
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
I could see the Jets, being a 3-4 team that likes to run the ball, having a similar draft board to us.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
And, they'll pick somewhere around Dallas.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was by regular season record
and teams with the same record are ranked by opponents winning % (lowest to highest)
Final 2 picks are the SB teams.
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
It would make me throw up in my mouth...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
The 4th down play did not bother me a bit
Stop them and u have nothing to cry about
same here
If you don’t want to get scored on, then play some defense. Crying aint part of football
Let the chips fall where they may
It's not about crying.
The team has no room to complain. But anyone outside that is free to questions the intentions of a team that does it. What exactly was the football purpose in it? None.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Exactly...
And it was a play action pass. This wasn’t them handing the ball off so as to run out the clock or even throwing a screen route. No, it was them blatantly trying to force the ball into the endzone to run up the score. Can our team complain? Publicly they can’t, but make no mistake that if I were on the team I would have taken the same approach as Keith Brooking.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
I try to be a decent guy, but if I were a player on the field and if Favre came out for another series after that
Id be gunning for him
are you kidding?
guys, i am NOT trolling here. Just objectively, there IS a football purpose to it.
A dominant victory gets your players psyched up. Going for it on 4th down with 2 minutes playing gets your players psyched up, especially if you succeed. It gives them a feeling of destiny and invincibility. You’re all correct in saying that the Vikings didn’t need more points to win this game. But obviously, they have a game next week, and Childress has a right to keep his players motivated how ever he wants.
There have been a couple of times this season where Crayton has returned punts for touchdowns late in blowout games. By your reasoning, he should stop at the 1/2 yard line and the Cowboys should then run the clock down for three more plays because, strategically, there’s more football purpose in ending the game than there is in scoring. But obviously, you’d never argue for that, would you? Because the score is more satisfying, and your player has earned it.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
pft
I like to believe in sportsmanship. I dont like running up the score. I hated it when Belichick did it to the Redskins a couple years ago and I hated this. Style points dont matter.
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regular season, even against a mediocre opponent, it’s a valid thing to do because of tiebreakers. i don’t like it more than anyone else.
postseason, football is more mental than anything. i guarantee you that the entire vikings team felt a little more euphoric, a little cockier, because of the 4th Q score. there is a value to that, particularly since they know they will need to score a ton next week to beat NO.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
could be
there may also be some Vikings who didn;t like it
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
fair point.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
ha ha
well Belicheck’s just an a**hole.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'd be ok if that a-hole coached the Cowboys.
I’m not sure that it would lead to Super Bowls, but I think the team would be more disciplined.
Sure. He's an a**hole but at least then he'd be our a**hole
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Big difference
and they went for it on 4th the previous possession too. Both times they took shots to the endzone instead of just trying to get a first down.
didn't see the game
but if you’re EXPECTING them to go for a first down, and they surprise you by going fo r the end zone, then that’s smart coaching. it’s a valid strategy to do the unexpected.
that said, i’m not here to rub salt in anyone’s wounds. playoff losses are always tough to swallow. FTR, i was thrilled when you guys trounced the eagles two weeks in a row.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Really I don't recall Crayton doing that
but there is a difference. Calling the plays is premeditated. Your trying to be an ass.
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Crayton
hasn’t returned one with 2 minutes left. He’d fair catch the ball.
and if your players need to score a TD with 2 minutes left in the game while up 27-3 to “get the players psyched” ….. then you’re a horrible head coach. You shouldn’t have any issues getting your players excited for a playoff game.
TD Is Meaningless
I am more concered with Romo’s sub par performance, notwithstanding the pressure.
Not withstanding the pressure?
How are those not causally related? Pressure equals poor performance. The Vikes did a great job, we didn’t.
get a clue
the pressure caused the sub par performance, no qb can perform under duress
In Romo we Trust
that INT he threw was a classic bone head Romo INT....no excuse for that one....know way u can defend him there
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
That is ridiculous
that is like cutting off Romo’s right arm, and when he doesn’t perform up to par you saying, “I’m disappointed in Romo’s sub par performance notwithstanding his amputated arm.”
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it's not either - or
Dallas should have stopped it, but it says something about that team that chooses to do it. It’s clear that teams don’t do that in the NFL. It’s bush league.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Yeah they won either way...
but I guess unnecessary would be the word I would use for it.
If they had just ran the ball a million times and scored I’d be ok with that, but that pass felt more like they were just trying to rub it in.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
The annoying thing is that they didn't roll out their FG unit to avoid running up the score, and then they ran it up anyways.
Classless, IMO. I wouldn’t want the Cowboys to do that.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Good luck finding a long lasting reliable kicker.
Those dinks are a bunch of snake-skinned scumbags.
I dunno, man.
It’s hard for kickers to get it back once they’ve lost it. Didn’t Vanderjagt get cut from the CFL after trying to resurface?
Yeah, he could never come all the way back
but I’ll bet rhbgsherb is right. Folk will get another chance
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Sure
It should just be a big free for all in camp as far as I’m concerned. Can’t hurt
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I don't even want them to have a kicker anymore.
Just go for it on 4ths.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
We need a soccer guy back there kicking
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
The star power would be right up Jerry's ally.
Now just how to figure out how to meet his asking price of 100,000,000.
i'll toss in $5...
just $999,999,995 to go
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Any free agent kickers?
Stover might be available with Vinetieri healthy. But I don’t know that he has much range outside of 40.
maybe the preseason should have tipped us off
but i feel like we went an entire season with a bad feeling every time the kicker lined up for a FG.
i liked it better when folk was just automatic.
this was awful
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
I still like Folk. I'm hoping it was the hip injury which caused his problems.
Maybe in the off season he gets it together and can return to play for a spot. But he has to be 100% perfect. Other than Suisham, who else was out there to pick up?
i dunno
Other than Suisham, who else was out there to pick up?
there was no one else. maybe vanderjagt? lol
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
That would have made me sick.
Maybe there were a few people from the UFL, or the Canadian league.
So did the defense just quit at the end or were the Vikings just playing it safe all day?
I think it’s a little of both.
It all begins and ends with the O-line, though. It was a feeding frenzy and Romo was the Viking bait.
The game was over at the end. I stopped watched and played with my daughter's DS...
So if they took a few plays off, I’m not going to take it out on them.
I really enjoyed the season and have high hopes for next season. Sure we need to fix a few things on the roster but 30 other teams will be doing that this offseason to. We’re a fairly young team that has done well the past 5 years in drafting to keep the team young. This was the Vikings last chance for awhile. Favre will retire this season and then they will be a .500 team. We really need a new kicker and to draft at least 2 O-lineman.
Farve will annouce his retirement
again you mean & then sign with the vikes or someone else 3 hours before the season opener.
I think the Super Bowl win is the reason he keeps coming back. If he gets that win then he won’t have an excuse to come back.
yeah but guys like him that have been playing a game they love for 20-30 years
its hard for them to walk away when theyre at the top, when theyve had their best season. Jordan tried to and couldnt. Elway did so maybe he can.
Minny won't win the super bowl this year
So if he wants one…He’ll have to come back.
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
what you mean they'll bea .500 team
the wen 10 – 6 last year without favre. Plus most of our team is coming back.
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 17, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
my keyboard
sucks thats why some letters are missing.
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 17, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I don't agree with that...
but it’s definitly different.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
yeah itll be different
but i’m hoping jackson has really learned alot from watching favre for a season and hopefull he can take over
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 17, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats you definitely have a great team
Rice is an awesome receiver and Harvin’s a potential monster as well. What’s up with AP tho?
Thanks
But i think its just our style of play now. We dont have to rely on AD as much as we used to.
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 17, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
So where do you want your greenbacks sent too? Send me an email to Meeuwenian@yahoo.com
I never hedge even if the bet was made in jest…
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
Save for the o-line, we are very young.
And maybe some of the talent we picked up last year develops and we have even more weapons on offense and defense.
The o line been good most of the year
When flozel went down it changed everthing….Not trying to make excuses but that was a killer
It wasn't pretty before then either
They just aren’t as good as the rest of the team.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
The Oline were just getting whipped.
Even before Flo went out. Romo wasn’t getting the time he needed.
I disagree
The Oline has been suspect all year. JG and Romo have done a good of hiding our Oline flaws.
sad but not heartbroken
we had a great run, answered some questions about us… this loss sucks but doesn’t sting nearly as bad as the season enders from the last few years. i’m proud of our accomplishments as a team this year… let’s build upon this for next season. though. can we please find a decent kicker?
Looking forward to next year already.
Nice job kicking our asses, Vikings, best of luck to you over the next few weeks. I wouldn’t mind seeing Favre get another SB win so he can go out in style.
Cowboys can now sign one high priced free agent without losing one under rules of the uncapped year, so maybe someone good will be available. Need a kicker, some linemen, an MLB and always secondary help.
And I guess Free needs some more work before he takes over for Flo.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:29 PM CST reply actions
No...
Dallas was one of the laste 8 teams, so they have to lose one unfortunatly.
But it was a good year, the offensive line just wasn’t good enough to handle the pass rush of the Vikings.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I thought divisional losers could get 1 player.
I may be wrong, but that’s what this article says: http://mgoblog.com/diaries/nfl-uncapped-year-donovan-warren
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly
I didn’t know that rule.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
You are correct..
teams 5-8 get to sign 1 player with a salary of 4,925,000 or more and any number of players with a first year salary of $3,275,000 or less with annual increases of no more than 30%.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d808736ba&template=with-video&confirm=true
That's great but I just hope we actually sign a new CBA
I’d rather not have a lockout
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Although...
another positive of an uncapped season is that a team can cut a player to a big contract and not take a cap hit.
Sure. That's my one worry WITH signing a CBA
Has Jerry took that into account with his signings?? Are the Cowboys prepared for either eventuality?? I sure hope so but if we don’t sign a new CBA then I have to say “Bye, Bye RW!!!”.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I don't think Free for Flo is gonna work
but hes proven he can be a capable starting RT – but then what do we do with columbo? thats frustrating.
I thought we can’t sign any high priced free agents without losing one?
That is correct...
being that the ’Boys made the final 8, they cannot sign a free agent without losing one.
I thought that was just teams that made it to the Final 4
I thought the remaining 4 could sign 1 unrestricted high priced free agent and as many mid level as they want. And if they lose a high priced free agent, they can replace him. The article I cited above was just the first one that I found, but I’ve seen it before. I could be wrong, though, it happens all the time.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
But who is even out there?
With RFA increasing to 6 years instead of 4 and 3 tags, I don’t know that there will even be that many quality guys available, if any.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I was wondering
Whose out there that we want?? There won’t be much available except for guys who get cut or guys who weren’t any good anyway
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Some of the guys getting cut...
will be underperformers on a big contact. Having said that, we may still not want them, but it is an option.
I think Free dominated Allen
there was one play when Allen managed to push Free back and deflect the pass and another when Free blocked another leaving Witten alone on Allen not sure what happened there but other than that the pressure seem to come from every where except Jared Allen.
I dunno if he dominated him
but Allen did just have the one sack when Witten was inexplicably trying to block him. Maybe Free’s the long term answer at LT, Im not sure
Favre going out in style? Screw that.
I’d much rather see a Brees/Rivers match-up than Favre/Peyton. That match-up would have a much more compelling backstory.
Yep
Its good that we can’t really play the what if game with this one, I hate losses like that – edwards tore columbo a new one today. If Flo hadn’t gotten hurt, maybe Free goes in and things are different, but overall, we got punked up front.
When Flozell went down, Romo no longer had any trust in his protection (which he shouldn’t have), his mechanics were off, he started looking solely for witten, etc. We saw what Flo means to this team.
Yeah, but they couldn't replace all the guys making blocking errors
Colombo, Witten, Kosier, Flo befgore he bowed out… It was horrible.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
yep
same story as it was midseason. And last year. and 2007.
This group is not reliable against these top units. They don’t just play poorly, the implode.
The problem with an offensive line is...
it is like a phalanx. If one part of the phalanx is weak, the whole phalanx is weak. Now we just have to find where the hole was.
Worst part is that I really thought they'd play well against the Vikes
I though they’d hold up real well against those bigger D-linemen.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I'm devasted
But in the big picture, we won the division, got the best of the Eagles, and got a playoff win after 13 painful years. None of us thought the whole addition by subtraction thing would work, but we had a damn good year, and I think the team is built to last. Lets hope for a good offseason.
Such as:
Roy Williams
at least 2 OL
kicker
and wade.sadly I think this is as far as he can lead a team
by Simon Potter on Jan 17, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
But about the lineman. Flo needs a replacement, and possibly an upgrade for Kosier. But other than that I don’t think its in terrible shape
agreed
theres only 1 team that wins it all every year. This team, qb and coach has proven that they CAN do it, but they need a few improvements, starting with a better.
Its kind weird. McNabb, Warner and Romo have now been eliminated while looking very poor offensively due to their ol just getting dominated.
how can the vikes cheer for far its just sick
i would never never cheer for mcnabb as a cowboy or eli
What the French?! Toast!
He took them to the championship in 1 year
They needed a quarterback desperately, beggars can’t be choosers
and amazingly the D held tough as long as they could
it was red ball’s famed offense that killed us. Keep Wade. his defense covered Garrett’s offensive butt all season.
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not Garrett's fault
when the line doesn’t block
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed, however
he bears responsibility in scheme and gameplan.
The eagles brought pressure, too. And we beat that. Garrett either had a poor plan or couldn’t make the adjustments as the game went on. Sure, the players play the game, but I don’t feel they were put into the best position to succeed.
Garrett holds the most responsibility in coaching for this loss. I love him to death, but this was one of his worst.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
I agree scheming to get better pass protection could have been better done
but its not like he had a lot of options.
garrett plans well, but cannot make adjustments
the first drive was excellent playcalling. the vikes figured him out, and we couldn’t adjust
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
i'm hearing you. i agree that blocking as our problem today.
but that’s when you adjust. you change what you’re doing.
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
It didn't matter after Flo left. Witten wiffing didn't help matters.
I never thought I would see two bad games from him in a row.
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
+ a lot!
and i’m copying your signature because it’s awesome
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
actually, he's their coach and playcaller right?
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Garretts play calling stunk....when Romo had time they didn't take a shot down field...
the play calling was horrible….swing pass to barber was bad…thats a play designed for Felix, not MB3. 4th and 1 facing a 48 yard FG kicker that isnt so good is awful. Blame that one on Wade
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
players lost the game, not the coaches
How can Romo go down field when his OL didn’t even give him enough time to complete short passes.
In Romo we Trust
True
Its only Garrett’s fault if he told the line not to block.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
he had time in the first half....ROMO int was uncalled for. cant blame the pressure for that one...that was just a bone head play by him
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
yes I can
and no he didn’t have anytime in either half, what game were you watching?? Obviously not the one I was
In Romo we Trust
You tell him Terry
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Terry. fumbling the snap from center exchange.....running with the ball causing a fumble...INT?
He didnt take care of the ball today…just be a freaking man and admit he didn’t take care of the ball like he needed to today. Yeah, he didnt have alot of time in the second have, but that’s no freaking excuse for not taking care of the ball….He is a NFL QB and its there job to take care of the ball. He morphed back into the old Romo today please….
All im hearing is tired a** excuses about your boy…I think the player has been playing lights out for the past 6 weeks, but today he did a poor job of taking care of the football….face the music pal…you want to gloat when he does great, but can’t take the critisim when he screws up…can’t have it both ways..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
the fumbles didn't lose this game
so why don’t you be a man and admit that. We would have lost regardless so try getting a clue, although I realize it’s hard for you.
In Romo we Trust
my man...the TO's were part of the problem buddy.....man up for once...
you dont turn the ball over 3 times and it doesnt affect game…..Romo was in part responsible for this loss….so was the OL and so was the kicker……wake up!
Don’t believe me because everyone and there uncle will be mentioning Romo on ESPN, NFL Network and every other media outlet as being partly responsible….he was hate to be real about it…
Like i said, Romo was playing lights out for 6 weeks, but he was part of the problem today.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
not true
I never said Romo played perfect but he certainly wasn’t responsible for the loss, any qb, Manning, Brees, Brady, pick whoever you want, would have turned the ball over as well and looked bad with the way the OL played.
No qb can play well under that kind of duress, so why don’t you wake up and get a clue because obviously you don’t have one.
In Romo we Trust
And the first fumble wasn't a fumble. He was down, a
challenge would have overturned it, but Wade was smart and didn’t waste a challenge on what could have been 14 yards of field positioning, especially when the game was still so early on.
I never said Romo was soley responsible for the loss...but he didn't take care of the ball
was the point. Pressure had nothing to do with running with the ball and fumbling it, pressure had nothing to do when he threw the INT. He fumbled the center snap exchange which could be blamed on Gurode. He just didnt take care of the ball….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
and those turnovers resulted in 3 points for the Vikings
hardly any kind of difference in the game. My point is that the fumbles and INT did not affect the outcome of this game.
If Romo does take care of the ball, we still lose big.
In Romo we Trust
The turnovers actually counted for 6 Viking points, not 3
On DAL 4th possession which ends with a fumble, MIN got a FG
On DAL 9th possession which ends with an INT, MIN got a FG
yeah on a short field to make matters worse....cant have that period!
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Your really angry.
Sure the turnovers affected the game, but looking at them outside of context is myopic and ignorant. No QB could have performed well in those circumstances, and that is why we are giving him a pass.
"You retired too?"
“Not me; I’m in my prime.”
BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
You're a daisy if you do!
BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Can someone Photoshop laser beams coming out of Jerry's eyes...
because that’s what it looks like he’s trying to do.
LOL
Thanks for that chuckle
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
What a shot
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: 1 down 3 to go
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Jan 17, 2010 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i like it - i don't always agree with Jerry's decisions, and i know it's popular sentiment that he
gets his nose in it “too deep” with all the meddling, but one thing that really consoles me as a fan, is that it clearly pisses him off just as much as it does me when the Cowboys lose…hell probably more judging by that look on his face
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
pros and cons
pros:
miles austin
felix jones
mike jenkins
anthony spencer
all turned the corner
cons:
folk lost it
brooking prob doesnt have enough juice for another 16game season
same with flo
not enough players available to patch up this oLine
roy williams
What the French?! Toast!
On Brooking, I didn't think he'd hold up for this season.
But I must say I’ve did a total 180 on Brooking. I definitely think he’s good for one more season. Plus the stability and leadership he provides is a plus. Now if Williams showed enough to unseat him that would be great. But I think he has enough left in the tank for at least one more solid season.
dunno about you,
But I want Brooking back, in the worst way.
As maligned as Flozell has been, he was not the weak point in our pass protection. Not sure if he comes back, though.. Free held up well. Colombo is a concern, though, and I’m not sold on Gurorde or Kosier. We ought to think about breaking our pattern and taking a worthy OL in the 1st round.
Roy Williams is obviously a problem.. is he worth bringing back, given his potential? Or is he a progress stopper for Ogletree now?
Obviously we need a reliable kicker, too.
Roy Williams is a progress stopper for
football, decency, common sense and dignity
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
+ infinity
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
No problem. Roy is, well, he's that bad...
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
We HAVE to...
get the OL fixed. There were free blitzers in Romo’s face all year. Sure, he can getaway from one, and sometimes two, but today he never had a chance.
JG scrapped it, worked too consistently
where’s the challenge in that?
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 3:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I asked myself..
the same question a few times at the top of my lungs. Seems that we tried the RB screen a couple of times, anyway. Point is, we could not even come close to protecting Romo. Did not see a lot of adjustment for that, whether smokes, or even Max protects.
I think...
the flanker screen works better when the corners give a few yards, instead of playing press coverage, which is what the Vikings were doing for the better part of the day.
So what changes do you think we'll see.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: 1 down 3 to go
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Jan 17, 2010 3:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We have some young players that need to step up:
Bennett, Scandrick, rookie LBs, Curtis Johnson. I still think that a massive space eater to spell and play alongside Ratiff at times would be very beneficial. Secondary always needs help for almost every team. Hamlin and Sensabaugh are both solid, but neither is a playmaker, and Newman isn’t really either.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
We'll see.
I really didn’t hear anything from training camp that made me think that, and he was a 6th round pick, I think. It would be great if he turns into a player, but I don’t really foresee him being better than Sensabaugh.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
K Hamlin is a FS, and M Hamlin is a SS
Again, I didn’t hear anything that indicated he was able to play the FS. And I’ll give Ken credit for one thing, he sets the secondary and they were noticeably better when he came back from injury. That may be coincidence, but I doubt it.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Sensi did pretty well I thought
Considering he played with a cast on one hand half the season. I’d like to see him re-signed to a reasonable contract.
I think FS position is screaming for an upgrade.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
sign Sensi but don't back up the moneywagon to his door
Hamlin looked good on a one year deal as well
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Right
Key word, reasonable.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
He has been good but doesn’t deserve elite money
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
well damn
when you lose in the playoffs, you’d at least like to know that you had a chance to win. But no. We had no chance. The o-line held up every game this season…..until today.
and that’s how 34-3 happens.
I still believe in Romo.
Maybe Folk will be back next year.
And I think Buehler has a huge opportunity to increase his value by working on his FG ability.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:37 PM CST reply actions
at least folk wa a pro bowler at some point in his career
once upon a time we had confidence in him. if we’re choosing between two bad kickers…. god i want folk of 07 back
If Folk comes back
it is with another team – too much bad juju in Dallas
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder how much the NFL is hoping that the Chargers and Jets game is close. The Divisional playoff games have been awful. I watched about a quarter of the Saints game and about the same from the Colts. These games have sucked.
we were their best bet for an upset
and as usual we couldn’t match up to the hype
hoping for a Saints-Colts SB
got a bunch of friends in Louisiana and they’ve never had anything to be happy about football-wise (except for LSU) until now
I still believe in Romo.
I dont know any Jets fans
So I hope they win. I dont like Rivers.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
the only jets fan i know
was rooting for the boys. besides, most jets fans i know hate the giants, which is good enough reason (Esp livng in ny) to root for them. also bc they dont have a chance in hell of winning
Idk about that
They have a shot
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
I live in the NY area...
Jets fans overly cocky, arrogant about virtually nothing. I hope they get destroyed today.
Rivers isn't a very likable guy.
Which would make a Rivers/Brees SB match-up even more compelling than just the 2-week mass media strokejob you’d get from a Favre/Manning Super Bowl.
The think I don't like about LT is...
when he was a rookie, he proclaimed his love for Emmitt… I haven’t heard word one about Emmitt since then other than he is gunning for Emmitt’s record.
Great year watching many of these young guys grow up.
I knew it wasnt our day when we have perfect coverage and they still score a bomb to Rice.
I was already calling for Free to replace Columbo when it became obvious Columbo didnt have the feet for that speedster on the end. Free did look pretty good after a series.
Minn D came to play after hearing all the media hype about our D. Props to them.
Go Saints!
KICK ASS every day!!!
can anyone answer me why they didnt try the flanker screen at all
thought that was their bread and butter
What the French?! Toast!
The Vikings were not blitzing
and they were tackling well. I think thats why.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
exactly...its kinda hard to get any offenseive momentum going when their front four are eating your QB
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Romo barely had time to get the snap in his hands.
BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
lets be honest..once Flozell went out we knew it was over....
Free cant handle Jared Allen and it was evident on the first play
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
it was tough enough before Flozell went out
when he got injured it was gonna be very difficult for us to come from behind
even with free, the left side wasn't the big problem
colombo standing in concrete watching their other end loop around and chew up Romo was
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Allen did squat
Free dominated him, the pressure can from everywhere except Allen except for the time when he was matched 1 on 1 with Witten.
Allen is wildly overrated
Edwards has been the better and more productive DE on that team since Week 8. Unfortunately he doesn’t have a goofy haircut, so he doesn’t get press. One could also read into it some racial undertones if one so desired.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
i would search for the undertones, but the mullet's in the way!
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
And No Quick Slants . . . and
No arching timing patterns
Great season
Sad to see it end, but it happens.
Time to draft a K and OL.
Good job, Vikes. Good luck in the future.
I'm proud of this team. I know Romo will get blamed, but he fought as hard
as he could with no protection, and I still believe in him completely The D tried, but got worn down. Hopefully, some off season moves will shore up the problems, and they’ll be back better than ever next year. No reason for any heads to be hanging.
I don't see Romo getting blamed for this one.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 17, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
yeah I don't think he should be
but some people will just look at 3 turnovers and think that’s the whole store… now those on certainly on him—he could have tucked the first one and not thrown the pick—but the pressure he was under should be a big part of the story, and this game doesn’t erase his outstanding season.
That's my quarterback!
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
he'll get too much
but imo, he deserves a little blame. It was only a 2 td game at halftime and he got way too nervous – his tunnel vision to witten reared its head again,ad he didnt set his feet on a couple throws, and that INT was really bad.
But its mostly the OL. When your LT goes down an you’re getting rushed from all sides, you aren’t gonna feel comfortable as a qb. In the first half, I thought Romo played gutsy, solid football. In the second half, he just looked beaten at times.
The INT was bad, but I can't find it in my heart to blame him. He was getting
crushed, and I don’t believe any player can withstand that for any length of time. I’m praying for some help on the O line in the off season. Even on the Cowboys’ win streak, the line wasn’t playing that consistently, and Jerry needs to do something about it.
On the fake pump, due to the d-lineman getting his hands up, Crayton was open.
But on the throw, the LB drifted into the passing lane and Romo didn’t see it. It was a great play by the defense, and we didn’t have many options since Romo was gettting crushed left and right.
Yeah, good play by the D
Romo couldn’t see because a Viking D-lineman jumped up and he couldn’t see through him. He had to double clutch the ball and then release it when the lineman came back down. Unfortunately, like you said, a LB drifted between him and Crayton and Romo had to release right then because of the pressure. Really sucks.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Yeah.
It did feel like that WR’s stopped moving when they saw Romo scrambling for his life. They were covered and they remained covered, so even if he escaped on the scrambles, I don’t think they would have lead to much.
Bennett stopped once though
and Romo had to explain to him how it all works. That guy seems to be a rock with eyebrows…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I was hoping for more from Bennett this year...
We didn’t get it. There are some dumb players who eventually come around, but who knows if the light will go off.
Haha
nice but unfortunately true.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Columbo got his hat handed to him early. That guys was just to fast for him.
I want to put Free in but Flo went down and the lead dominoe fell.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Still not as big a letdown as some of those SB losses to the Steelers
and “The Catch” in the NFC Championship Game @ SF.
Wharter
Oh "the catch" actually brought me to tears as a young lad.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: 1 down 3 to go
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Jan 17, 2010 3:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
In all honesty...
I can’t complain much about this season. This team got some serious monkeys off their backs and it was a hell of a ride.
Get this offense a line and there’s no telling how good next year might be. The O-line and the kicking are the only major issues I see here.
There were a lot of positives though
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree
the SB is the ultimate goal but not the only one. We’ll just have to get better for next year
not happy, not satisfied - just looking at what worked and build on it.
The season wasnt a total loss. We did somethings right and made improvements in some areas. Lets build on that for next year and improve the areas we need help in
Happy
and being totally satisfied is different.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Guess you're right.
I mean, I really thought this season was over after the loss to the Chargers so I’ve got no right to complain too much
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Getting tired of this sick feeling...
I’ve had to live with for the past 14 years. Will it ever end?
it always ends the same way...
Continuously getting humiliated in our final game is really getting old.
I didn't think the Giants playoff loss was humiliating
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Not humiliating
Maybe embarrassing because of the way it ended
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes you just run into a better team. Their D was better than our O line.
That doesn’t take away from the accomplishments of this season. A whole lot of people didn’t even pick the Cowboys to have a winning record.
Oh come on
You don’t know pain. I’m a Vike’s fan – I’ve lived with what you’re going through my entire life…
Golden Tate
Probably won’t have a shot at him
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
O-line is much more of a need
Although I would love to have Tate on the team.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to draft O-line first
Especially a blue chip LT but that’s probably as likely as Golden Tate falling to us near the end of the 1st round. There’s some good ones out there though.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
any notable linemen are coming out of college this year that we actually have a shot at?
I still believe in Romo.
Plenty
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
yeah and theyre 2 years older this time
we need help big time on our Oline. We got lucky with only one serious injury all season on the Oline but we cant go into next year with the same 5 guys again I think
I think Gurode and Bigg
are the only two positions we’re reasonably set at on the Oline. Kosier’s ok but gets overpowered sometimes. Flo is getting old and Colombo was overmatched in this game
That's true because Flo went out
but I think everyone’s saying that Free never should have been benched for Columbo in the first place. Not when he was playing so well
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
thank you
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldnt mind the loss as much if we played a little better.
We played no where near as bad as the score indicated but once again shooting our selves in the foot to kill drives reared its ugly head.
KICK ASS every day!!!
not 34-3 bad...
a couple of FGs, less fumbleitis and some class and it’s more like 27-17…
Still a loss tho…no excuses…
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We were but we had a few opportunities early and blew it. I sure would have liked to sieze a little momentum early.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Yep
It would’ve changed the entire game.
They were moving the ball at will until they’d get around the 30, then self destruct.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
I don't mind that TD pass at the end
if it makes the Vikes feel better about themselves, then fine.
I still believe in Romo.
Two perfect throws and a gimmie over the middle
Both of Favres long throws were perfect
The other was a gift on a very intelligent play by Rice.
Still we didn’t move the ball with good field position to get on the board, and relieve some of the pressure on our D with turnover Vikes good field position
We were thoroughly dominated by a superior team...no shame in that.
Now we need to focus on the draft and continue developing the younger players like Austin and this team should be even better next year.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
naw i mean thru a whole season to this point......
I saw Bennet got touches, Miles got touches, Witten got touches………….MAn they got guys like Jhonny Knox,Simms Walker buting up RW numbers………..The past is the past i…what done is done but i just onder who we would have gotten
Ye Romo was on his ass..........
But was surprise JG had zero answer 4 that…………The o -line is a cave n………pressure was an infestation
They are not a superior team. Put on our fiels with our crowd and Flo doesnt get hurt its a different game.
Superior my ass.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Wouldn't be 34-3 that's for sure
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I hope Favre feels better getting his revenge for two decades of Dallas dominance
He has to feel good knowing he’s conquered the best defense left in the tournament
Yea he kick sum dirt
But the Cowboys he could not beat r n the hall of fame so the celebration and the extra score i didnt get
This really stinks
still at the sportsbar with some friends watching the Jet game… I will add this:
Looked like the same Cowboys from first half of the season. Bad play calling,Romo not protecting the ball, making bone head plays, the OL not proetecting the QB. where are all the Flozell haters now? he is not as bad as people make him out to be. Jared Allen didnt do anything until he was out keep in mind. Ive been saying this for awhile and it was evident this game.. We need another playmaker on offense…Austin was neutralized and we had no one to throw the ball to. We need a playmaking 3rd WR. We need to unload some dead weight also starting with Newman. That was his blown coverage on the first TD…going to be a long off season fellows..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
OMG
They aren’t going to let go of Newman.
Will you let go of your personal battle with him?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
NEwman stinks dude open your eyes.....he needs to be demoted..he was responsible for the first TD...even Troy said he didnt now WTF he is doing
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
yeah
newman has played great the last few games, he’s a big part of the reason we’ve had such a good D. They got beat today, but that doesn’t mean he all of a sudden sucks when he was part of the one of the best CB tandems in the league last week lol
Newman has been making bone head plays like that all season..he needs to be demoted to the 3rd CB...
If sensabaugh just was able to turn around he wouldve made a play..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
3rd CB maybe
but not cut as some are saying
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Shut up with your TNew hate
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Newman has been playing well.
He might be overpaid and overrated, but he is good enough. Not exactly Revis, which is what we drafted him to be, but I think he played well this year.
See
you have nothing to back that up just… HE STINKS… please.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
how we forget..go watch some tape. He has been playing decent the last 3 or 4 games.
Not saying cut the guy, but I think his days are closer to the end then the begining at 31. He would extend his career here as a slot CB. He is not a starting CB anymore IMO. Yes, what does make it worse that he is overpaid…mistake on Jerry for giving him a big contract. Scandrick will be ready next year….drafting another CB early would be something to consider also. uncapped year coming so this is the perfect time to think abiut unloading inflated contracts..Newman, Hamlin, MB3, RW could be considerations for the chopping block…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Cut Newman and Hamlin...
and watch our D take 3 steps back next year.
Barber?…maybe. Its certainly debatable I think. RW? I’ve gotta say yes. It doesn’t send a good message to the team to keep a player underperforming so badly around. Accountability has to mean something.
disagree....Hamlin is overrated,,Ball did very well when he was in for him....
Scandrick is more than ready and will be next year with another year under is belt..Newman would be best utilized as a slot CB at this point in his career. Its going to happen, he is 31 and slowing down….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
well see next year....all you haters were wrong on Carpenter...turned out pretty good didnt he...
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
That's extremely debatable.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
He turned out salvagable
he wasn’t worth a first rounder, and he isn’t even a great nickel LB, he’s ok.
So go ahead and hype up your lame Ohio State homerism.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
salvagable...LMAO!!!! he is the best nickel LB we had in years...
and one of the best ST players we have….He has been rock solid all season and only getting better..finally after 3 seasons of getting bounced around and now with significant playing time he is shining…
Was Newman worth a first round pick? was Spears for that matter? sure…..nice try, but weak as hell..lol
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Spears has started for three years
Carpenter is nothing special on ST and you say he is shining?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
better go put some glasses on..outside of Watkins has been the best ST player on the team....try again
And Spears stinks…. 4 sacks in 4 years……yeah he is good..lol…he will be gone..this was his contract year..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
why hasn't Spears lost his job then?
did you really laugh out loud at that?
You are wrong on both sacks and years of service – do you just make crap up?
How many turnovers did Carpenter force this year? He is a poor man;s Kevin Burnett with a ponytail
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Really...lol...Carpenter is alot better than Burnett...
Better as a covering LB and better on ST…..a freaking blind man can see that….reallly…your joking right…..you honestly believe Burnett was a better LB than Carpenter?….Carpenters covering skills are superior to Burnett…we improved in that area tremendously without burnett.
Spears contract ran out after this season. Depending on the uncapped year he maybe a RFA, but I dont think he will be resigned no matter what.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Burnett was much better
Why did you make up false stats about Spears to strengthen your argument? Do you fill all of your arguments with fantasy
Credibility is zero on you for that. I disregard your opinion as you have proven yourself incapable of objectivity and therefore reason.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
ummm..think again.....he wasnt sorry to inform you....
I think most fans would agree are nickel LB position has improved since burnett was here….he was average and was hurt all the time…go ask SD fans how hes been..he stinks…
I was a starting LB for 3 years in HS, 2 in College so dont mock me about creditbilty..please!
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
you made up stats about Spears to further your argument
when you lie and make crap up, you have no credibility
Congrats on being Uncle Rico though.
I am not mocking you – I simply caught you in a lie and accordingly decided you are 100% lacking in reason and credibility. Sorry if you think that is mocking.
What college taught you to make up crap to prove your point?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Wasnt lying..I just didnt look up his stats, but I knew it wasnt many...
congrats he had 8 sacks in 5 years…that make you feel better…..it still stinks as a starting DE even though its a 3-4 defense. the point was he was not worth a first round pick and wont be resigned.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
He was solid against the run this year
and I am in favor of bringing him back next year.
he is good against the run, but the problem is money and he isnt worth it
Bowen will be his replacment unless they draft his replacement…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
funny that you weren't lying
but you completely misrepresented the truth and that is why your credibility is a permanent zero
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
4, 5, 8 sacks..really....did it really bother you that much..
sorry if I was just too lazy to look up the exact number for you….regardless, it’s not many…lying…lol…your words, not mine….im actually a very honest person and the last I checked im not getting indicted for not getting my number correct on a blog site…..chill and go grab a drink…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
It's not even worth arguing with you...
You’re a complete Carpenter homer.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
He did a good job this year....give the man some freaking credit...
Haters!
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
who isn't giving him credit??
I’ve said all along he’s best suited for a nickel backer because of his lack of toughness and athletic ability to cover.
In Romo we Trust
you are down on Crayton
and think Carps produces?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
he doesn't exactly get asked to do much
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
umm..yeah he does...
he is mainly responsible for covering the TEs and has been solid. Why else you think TEs havent had great games against us….yeah, thats Carpenters job as the nickel LB…and lately he has been in on the QB…nearly had a sack on Favre today..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
he nearly had a sack
does he still get his pass rush badge?
his responsibilities are nowhere near Newmans.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
two different postions...
and Newman needs less responsibilties because he gets roasted too many times for what he is getting paid for….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
that is so awesome that he almost had a sack though
Parcells was right all along
Dave Thomas didn’t seem to have issues with Carps, and he is a second stringer
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
TNew is still a top tier CB
Whether you want to admit it or not. The truth is, he does not get “roasted” very often. He’s very smart about taking risks in coverage. Part of the reason some fans want to knock the guy, he plays to not give up the big plays more often than he gambles and jumps routes.
There are maybe a handful of CB’s in any given season who don’t give up a TD, and even that might be a generous estimate.
Case in point, our rising star Jenkins was beaten in back to back weeks for long TD passes. So if you’re going to demand perfection from a CB, you are most likely going to be very disappointed.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
T New has his warts
but few players don’t. If Jenkins hadn’t ascended he would be more of a problem. Most teams would be pleased with our top 3 cbs
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I like Newman, but I wouldn't go that far.
He’s a solid cover corner, but he is not a top tier CB.
Well upper tier
I guess it depends on definition.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Newman is def not a top tier CB....OMG...Not!..lol
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
no, he definitely is
unless you want to admit Jackson sucks because he pretty much shit him down
In Romo we Trust
Terry, Jackson was doubled in all three meetings....hello!!!
Jackson on Newman is a freaking mismatch…everyone in there uncle knows that the reason they double cover him….did you not see Jackson blow by Newman in the play where Mcnabb missed Jackson? that was a TD if Mcnabb made that play….Newman can’t handle Jackson one on one…..lol
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Desean Jackson gets doubled by every team
You defend a mediocre nickel LB to the point of obsession, and are unwilling to give credit to one of the best CB’s ever to play for the Cowboys. Strange.
D-Jax was doubled, but he was still one on one with T-New on underneath routes, and his stat line vs the Cowboys has been well below his average.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 18, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
no, I wasn't wrong regarding Carp, I was absolutely right
I said Carp wasn’t tough enough to be an every down 3-4 ILB which he isn’t, I said he was a decent nickel backer, which he is.
In Romo we Trust
the best nickel LB we had in years you mean....and better than Burnett that you guys were so high on
also improving as a pass rushing LB….the kid just needed time in a system that wasnt bouncing him around like Ive been telling you people for a long time…..patience people…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
lol, you're such a homer
Bennett was much better than Carp, not even close.
Carp needs to go to a 4-3 team if he ever wants to start in this league
In Romo we Trust
you mean Burnett and no he wasn't....
wasnt better in coverage or special teams and was always hurt….go ask SD how they think of him…..he was average here and he is worse there…Carp is a upgrade over Burnett as the nickel LB without question
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
I would say
they’re comparable. Burnett was a better tackler I think.
I'll say this about Carp...
I rarely cursed because he f’d up. And cover LB and o-line basically are measured in the same barometer. How many times do you curse their existence.
I don't think his pass rush technique is improving...
but he is blitzing and coming free. Most LB’s can get to the QB if they aren’t blocked.
it should have never
come to that.
if Newman taps rice at the line he does not catch up to that ball.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
One play does not define you.
Jenkins has bad plays sometimes too, charles woodson has bad plays, I have my eyes opened.
Scandrick isn’t better than Newman right now.
You’ve never really known what you’re talking about, so I don’t know why I’m arguing with you.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
if it does
Revis would enter imo a “historically great” threshold. That guy is having a freakin incredible year.
speak for yourself buddy, Ive been right more than Ive been wrong when it comes to personell on this team...
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
You and Terry. when you guys like someone you never miss an opportunity to promote them.
When you guys dislike someone you never miss a chance to run them in the ground.
Then you self promote how you knew it all along.
Newman has played outstanding ball recently, get over it.
KICK ASS every day!!!
You SUCK at forecasting anything to do with this team
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
he clearly screwed up
but you’re gonna cut him based on 1 play every three games? heck the guy just shut down desean jackson back to back weeks.
Newman might have missed the jam but it was Sensi's man and the coverage was there.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Hey Cowboys Fans
I would like to say that I am sorry for the way you lost. I would be severly depressed if my Vikings lost that way, as I was in the 41-0 blowout against the Giants. I can deeply understand how that feels and its not a good feeling.
You guys have a great team there. You can only get better and I will look forward to a great matchup next year in the playoffs, maybe even the Conference Championship.
Few Things I noticed:
1. Why is Shaun “I-squeeze-them-wide-right” your kicker? Has Wade thought about giving that rookie a chance because DAMN he can kick.
2. If you can snag a couple of good OLmen in the Draft or FA you’ll be a SuperBowl Contender No doubt about it.
3. This may sound like a dumb question but are you guys “Upset” over the Shaincoe touchdown?
I am in no way trying to be a troll, I just would like to hear what you guys think.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions
That Farve TD was bush league to me. But I think Karma will catch up to Brett for that.
I would have pulled for him until that throw.
KICK ASS every day!!!
answers
1. Bueler can’t kick FGs all that well.
2. Agreed.
3. Nope. We lost the game. That’s what hurts.
I still believe in Romo.
Ok
Too point number 1, not trying to be mean or anything but neither can Shaun. :/
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh gotcha. What about Stover?
Or did he get picked up by the Colts?
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Oh ok then.
Nick Folk it seemed was always automatic until this year. Any idea on what happened?
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
that certainly is one possibility.
one thing’s for sure, PK is going to be a wide open competition in camp this year.
Can’t believe we have to wait for July for more Cowboys…..
i think i'm going to try out...lol
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
No idea
Confidence or maybe the surgery.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
He got injured and had surgery in the offseason
and missed offseason work. When he tried to come back i think his rhythm wasnt at 100% and he missed a few and just lost confidence. It was totally mental as the season progressed.
Ok I see.
Thanks, but if your rookie kicker can learn to kick field goals. DAMN! You are going to be in a great boat. You could knock in field goals from 75 yards out. lol
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
yeah he'll have to learn first though
I think he was originally a safety in college before they converted him to kicker
Wow. Did not know that
Ok cool.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
When u lose by 31, two missed FGs don't seem to matter much
I’m sure we’ll have a new kicker next year. Nobody could have seen the the Folk’ing meltdown this year.
Shuishum hadn’t been that bad all year. He had missed 4 coming into the game. Folk was awful this year missing 10 I think. I never get upset about teams scoring late with a big lead. If you don’t want the score ran up on you you should play better defense. Not only that but we were going for it on 4th down.
Thanks for the class
to your questions:
1. Beuhler can kickoff very well, but doesn’t have the chops at FG kicker, he my try to do so more now, though. One can only hope.
2. We definitely need OL. If we get it in the draft we might have to wait a few years until they are productive.
3. I am a bit, I thought it was poor sportsmanship. But whatever, game’s over, we got our butts kicked.
Congratulations.
Well thank you.
Ya but you guys had a hell of a year so it will take some time to get over this but when you do and look back at this you’ll realize how great you were.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like going for the last TD
but I don’t think you can whine about it in the NFL
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Buehler only became a FG kicker late in his college career
maybe he doesnt do so good in practice on FG, I dunno.
Congrats by the way – your team outplayed us and was the better team today.
As for the Shiancoe TD – some people are upset some say its part of teh game. I think it was unnecessary and they were running up the score. Cant say I wish your team well next week – wish i could but that score left a bitter taste in my mouth
1) because Nick Folked up consistently...
2) thx, that’s general consensus here too…
3) Yup…it was complete bullsht….
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 4:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
btw
you came through classy and respectful, so thx for that too…
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 4:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh no problem
We beat your team, that hurt enough right? No need to rub it in. I just dont believe in that.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Answer to Questions
1. They did try Buehler out before they cut Folk. He will work on it in the off season but he wasn’t making anything
2. We do need to upgrade o-line
3. I am old school. With less than 2 minutes left and the game in hand you don’t throw for the endzone. “you play to win the game” not for meaningless stat padding.
Thanks for your thoughts
I agree with them. Apparently Buehler is absolutely horrible or something cause every time its brought up Wade immediately shoots it down.
I’m not upset. The game was over. I rolled my eyes, but whatever. The game was close midway through the third, our ol was clearly holding us back throughout.
1. Nick Folk was a great kicker but having a terrible season. We had to let him go and Suisham was the lesser of the evils in FA. Wade says Buehler doesn’t make FGs consistently enough in practice to try them in game. Maybe during the off-season, he develops into a good FG kicker.
2. Doug Free was a solid RT for a few games but we’re hoping he can develop into the long-term LT. We drafted G/T Robert Brewster in the 3rd round I believe and he got hurt in the training camp for the season. If Brewster and Free can replace Kosier and Adams, our OL should be ok for the future. But I think Jerry might have to get a shiny new LT in free-agency.
3. The TD bothered me at first. Not so much now. We have to stop them from scoring there. Usually running up the score is supposed to be symbolic or send a message so I guess that was for everybody basically saying the Vikings shouldn’t even show up.
by MicThaRock on Jan 17, 2010 4:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This may sound like a dumb question but are you guys "Upset" over the Shaincoe touchdown?
I`m not upset about it but if it were reversed I would n`t want us doing it.
Ok I see. Thats definitly understandable
If situations were reversed I wouldnt mind. I am a firm believer in you play the game for 60 minutes not 55 and a half. You are an NFL player and I dont care if you’re down by 21 or up by 21 I want you busting your but every single play. You get paid good money that’s the least you can do. Maybe Im jus old school though? :)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Reverse it this way
what was the football or game situation purpose for it? The answer is there was no purpose so it should have been run plays like every other team would call. It’s not old school to show disrespect for your opponent.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Point very well made.
I think why I have an “issue” (cant think of a better word at the moment) with calling it disrespectful is because the Boys were wasting timeouts with 6 minutes to go to stop the clock. Seriously Wade?
But yea I very well understand your point, espicially since its a playoff game its gonna sting a little more.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
MN went to the endzone on 4th down on the previous possession too
So you can’t say it was in retaliation for dallas calling timeout. I can’t wine about it but I would be disappointed if Dallas did it to someone else. I think it’s classless and poor sportsmanship.
by staubachfan on Jan 17, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh ya definitly
Im not saying Im in favor of doing it, because I wasnt but it doesnt bother me. If the Cowboys did it I would say more power to them. You know? I guess Im just hard headed like that.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
It didn't bother me.
But what if someone on your team had a major injury on that play and they were out for the rest of the playoffs. That’s why I don’t like my team doing stuff like that.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
percy do you feel good?
I mean you come here to debate something that your not on the wrong side of. If it was reversed you would be pissed , so quit trying to start crap and make it seemed justified. It wasn’t good sportsmanship by your team, I personally don’t care but don’t sit here and try to make anyone believe your opinion. You are on the winning side and the good side of running up the score so ofcourse you are ok with it. We all know we would say the same thing if it was reversed.
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He's been cool
Even told off an Iggles troll
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Im not hating on him I am telling him bluntly
that trying to change opinions is not working here. Its easy for him to come here and say its ok cause it wasn’t done to his team. Let some fans have their own opinions.
"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."
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Guess what?
I’m actually with dubious on this one. I didn’t see any reason to go for the touchdown. In the postgame radio interviews here in MN they were saying we went for it to send a message to the Saints. That they better be ready for a shootout, or some nonsense like that.
Not real classy for one thing, but a poor strategy for another. No reason to show any more plays than we have to, and I’d rather be underestimated than over. Besides, the key to beating the Saints will be our defensive pass protection and ball control/clock management by getting the running game going. Passing for an extra TD at the end was completely unnecessary.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
thanks Dwarg but
I feel bad now cause Percy thinks I was mad. I was defending others who are emotional on here and I just didn’t feel it was needed. Percy I am not mad , never was but I still believe in what I said. I am sorry you felt it was more and hope there is no hard feelings.
Dwarg also I feel that your team is well liked and didn’t need to do that at the end but who knows why they did it. Maybe Childress was upset with all the media and the love for our team. Its a moot point now :)
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My other theory
Is that Childress was sticking it to your guys because of his old Eagles connection. Maybe Andy Reid told him to score an extra one for him.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
yea that could be a very good reason why
never thought of that ….. was he an assisttant there?
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OC and AHC
Yeah, he was the Offensive coordinator and Assistant Head Coach with the Eagles before we hired him. He and Andy Reid still go camping and fishing together in Alaska during the offseason. They were both coaches under Holmgren in Green Bay too.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
Yeah, that's possible.
Buddy Ryan always hated the Cowboys regardless of where he coached… so sure.
Actually I do feel good
If you wanna talk to me like I’m an asshole, then I’ll give you an asshole response. Where did I try to make anyone believe my opinion? Exactly I didnt. I was just stating how I felt.
And no its not just because Im on the winning side. I hated Florida and USC but when they “ran up the score” I didn’t have a problem with it. So No I would not be complaining if the roles were reversed.
If my Defense cant stop them then why complain, if my coach is calling timeouts with 6 miuntes to go why complain, and if the other team is trying NOT to run up the score by going for it on fourth down instead of kicking two chip shot field goals then why complain?
And thank you to Sean and AperfctStar for coming to my defense.
But in no way what-so-ever am I trying to start crap Dubious, I understand you’re a pissed at what went down today so I’ll cut you some slack but seriously dude dont come at me like that. We’re all classy here.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Im in no way pissed and don't try making it more than it is to make yourself look good
i put it simple. You were trying to say that it wasn’t running up the score and its easy for you to say when your on that side of the score. The running up didn’t mean anything to me but you were trying to change opinions of fans who feel a certain way. I am still trying to see where i called you out or said anything bad. You are making it more than that and its unacceptable.
I understand you’re a pissed at what went down today so I’ll cut you some slack but seriously dude dont come at me like that
Please back away from being the internet tough guy thanks
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Im in no way trying to make myself look good
I wasnt trying to change anyones opinion. Where did I say “No your wrong, this is what went down.” I didnt, I was offering my opinion.
And how are you not Pissed?! Because I sure as hell would be, my favorite team just lost
Im not trying to be an “Internet tough guy”. Im jus saying dont say im trying to “start crap” when I clearly am not and nobody else seemed to have a problem with me asking questions.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
you were trying to make your point when others felt differently. when on the winning
side is it needed? you know people are upset, so why try to debate it here? Anyways……
And how are you not Pissed?! Because I sure as hell would be, my favorite team just lost
I am a sports fanatic but my family is healthy, my kids are healthy and I have a job……why would I be pissed because my favorite team loses? Its fun to watch but I don’t live my life by their wins and losses. It makes for good chat though :0
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Simon Noble
Okay you definitly raise a fair point as to the argument
Well yes that is true as long as you’re healthy and youre family is and you can support them that is really all you need in life.
And to your comment above. There are definitly no hard feelings at all and I am not mad at all at you either.
Sorry if I seemed borderline “trollish” cuz that was never my intention.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
fair enough
hug now? j/k :)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Should read
<<<<<"Dubious">>>>>>
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
if we had been trying to kill the clock it would bug me
but if we are going to go for it on fourth downs, it seems fair to me. I think if we had waived the white flag they run the clock out.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Classless and Dangerous end to the game.
Throwing for a touchdown at the end of blowout game is classless. You run up the middle and let the clock grind out even if you turn the ball over on downs with very little time remaining. It is called Sportsmanship. Vikings won but the Football Gods have a way of turning things back around.
Now imagine if Farve rolls out to throw the pass and a Cowboy lands against his knee on a meaningless touchdown. You scored but now Sage is your QB against NO. Just stupid to have them in there with the game in the bag.
Nope
Cowboys should never have called timeouts with 5 minutes left.
I’m a cowboy fan but we got what we deserved for calling timeouts.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
It was poor sportsmanship, period
Can’t recall any other teams doing that. It should embarrass most football fans.
Buehler kicks off well but is also inaccurate on FGs.
The line is horrendous.
I’m rooting for the Saints but I’d be shocked if they beat the Vikes. They struggle against solid defenses.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
im not upset
over the TD. the game is 60 mintes long not 58. and if the roles were reversed wed all be cheering and laughing at the vikings.
+1 This isnt college trying to get bonus points for the rankings.
I dont blame them at all for going for a 1st down to run out clock.
KICK ASS every day!!!
I agree. I like that Wade doesnt do stuff like that
and would definitely cringe if we ever did that.
Don't throw
all of us in there.
I am never asking for a playaction pass on 4th and 3 to the endzone up 20.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't like us to do it
but I have no objection to them doing it
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
+1
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
not my style
I think it is discretionary
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
But what isn't your style?
Scoring a TD during a football game? That’s my point. I wouldn’t do it to someone else because I wouldn’t feel (given the situation) that it would be in good sportsmanship or classy. I wouldn’t teach young kids to do it. Does sportsmanship somehow stop once you’re being paid?
I say call it like it is.
I wouldn't do it but I don't consider it to be egregious
If Dallas is going to go for it on fourth downs, they can’t expect mercy. That is having it both ways.
I do coach young kids and I think there is a difference. I am calling it like it is
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
When I coach
I teach sportsmanship regardless of what the other team is doing. I wouldn’t expect them to quit or not to go for it on forth down. I would still just try to run out the clock with runs.
I would as well
but I don’t coach in the National Football League.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said before
Good sportsmanship doesn’t end just because you are being paid. In fact, running up the score means something in college so I could see a better argument there then in the NFL.
Just my opinion and I’ve spent more time on this then I wanted to. I’m not upset about it, I think it’s just an interesting issue.
Dallas got beat by the better team today.
don't get it, we're down by a lot so ofcourse we are trying to score
Which is why we go for it on 4th.
BUT they are up and no way are we gonna win, so yes it’s classless and totally unrelated to our going for it on fourth.or the time outs.
You'd be speaking for yourself
I think it’s bush league to rub it in. Doesn’t matter who does it.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I have been a Roy supporter all season. No longer. Miles isn’t going to be a threat if someone can’t draw coverage away from him. We HAVE to get some depth at o-line. Why are these back-ups on our roster if they can’t play?
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
He never gets the read right on hot routes.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
then #11 should shut his mouth and stay in and block!
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
who woulda thunk the K would be our achilles heel
(or hip as the case may be)
Not that it would have entirely changed the outcome, but those two kicks would have gotten us not only 6 points to help keep us in it, but better field position against them as well with Beuhler TBs. The 2 missed FGs were a big part of the overall fail today, and without them the game might not have gotten away quite like it did. Folk went from “Ice in Veins” to “Mr. Yips”. They couldn’t stick with him, but they couldn’t find better, and in the end our weakness there was a real contributor to our downfall.
of course if it’s coming down to FGs then something else is wrong, namely the oline, but still… after thinking Folk was so reliable, and drafting a kickoff specialist who is doing outstanding at that part, it is quite frustrating to have this one key position be such a persistent problem.
We may have to draft another K.
(looks like we’re not the only ones as Kading just missed one too lol)
Imagine if we had signed Longwell instead of
Vandy – just imagine.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
those were long fgs though.
Like percentages say your average kicker only makes 1 of 2.
maybe
I mean they were both around 50. They weren’t like his 30 yard chip shot that stayed wide against washington or whoever.
I hate kickers.
how the hell
Did we ever get Eddie Murray off the discard pile? Miracle of miracles
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
could have been Jerry
and it was pretty good luck too
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
+1 make the FG not only the points but they start at the 20 on their next play.
KICK ASS every day!!!
my mistake
maybe not all but alot would be cheering. and i do agree i dont think wade wouldve done it. but again the game is 60 minutes long.
This year's draft
I believe that with so many teams looking to trade down, the new value is in trading up. I would love to see Jerry trade up and get fewer, higher picks this year. Last year was the quantity approach, this year we need quality.
package MB, RW, Flo, and Suisham in one big poo poo platter package?
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
I have no issue with Barber
having three contributing RBs is not a problem
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
true, except for the fact that we need OLine and backups for them more now....If Choice and FJ were it then JG couldnt go for those standard two yard gains MB gets.
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
quality OL are harder to find than quality RB
Dallas fans know that all too well
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Except he has a starter's contract.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
and what are the cap issues?
we can’t sign any high dollar FAs, Dallas is cap healthy, Barber is an asset
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
So does anyone think JJ will have a suit made from the souls of the people he disposes of this year?
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
I would like to see an OCC piece about what other FB were saying during our loss
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
That game sucked
but I enjoyed this season more than any in recent history. We have serious issues on the Oline but have some good young pieces in place to make a run next season.
F the vikings, their curse will pop up before the season ends and take them back to loserville.
At least the Eagles
can actually make it to the NFC Championship game.
When will Dallas ever get the past the divisional round with Wade Phillips and Tony Romo? Oh yeah, NEVER.
We have a much better chance of getting to the Super Bowl this decade
than you guys do. Lol.
We are in a rebuilding year… Tony Romo and Wade Phillips will NEVER take you there.
you guys trash talking after your butts got handed to you the last 2 weeks?
wow..you got some serious stones. No wonder you fantasize about Romo gagging
Next year
the Eagles will go right back to owning the Cowboys.
This year was a rebuilding year.
Wow you're a disgrace for an Eagles fan
Where the hell do you get off talking shit when your team got your ass handed to you on a silver platter in consecutive weeks?
How can you possibly think you’re better than the Boys? You have no running game, you OL is old, and your QB is showing his age. Your D is old too.
I hate the Cowboys, I honestly do (Sorry Guys) but you must be an idiot to come to THEIR site after you got beat not once but TWICE and talk a big game. Funny how you wait till after they lose to say anything too.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
My new favorite Minnesota fan.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
LOL ha thanks
But its true, I mean WOW some people just dont get out of their Desean Jackson fantasy long enough to realize how bad their team did.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
And now you realize
What Cowboys fans have always known—what bottom dwelling scum those Iggles fans really are.
by Cowboys Dominance on Jan 17, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ha thanks you are pretty cool yourself
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Ha none taken
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
lmao and that's from the Vikes' fan!
if you’re ever in the Philly area you got a beer on me PercyHarvin…
by goldnboi7 on Jan 17, 2010 4:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lol aight man nice!
Thanks
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
In all fairness
you OL is old,
They have a young line compared to ours…..We have a old line by todays NFL standard
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Stand Corrected.
Oldest lineman is 27. So sorry about that inadvert statement.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Own?
First, Dallas is 7-4 againt the Eagles the past 5 years.
Second…
Congratulations Bob Hayes
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 17, 2010 5:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Picture Fail!
Ok your point? Who knocked the Eagles out of the playoffs THIS year?
Who kept them from getting the Number 2 Seed THIS year?
All Right then. Longgggg story short the Boys were/are better than the Eagles.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
You know...
he was making a point for Dalas right?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Who cares
we can all agree that Dallas is better than Philly.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
That's true...
I was just saying Raul’s one of our guys.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
I would have understood that
Had I seen the picture, but I am sorry for the Dopeyness of me. But either way the Boys are better than the Eagles.
And you guys need to come over to the DN because honestly we are all under the impression that Cowboys fans are complete and total Dicks. (Sorry) I guess thats what happens when you have about 10 dicks come to our site and ruin your reputation.
But after talking to you guys I have completely changed my opinion on Boys fans, I know think you are a very decent bunch with a few d-bags thrown in there but every team does.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's that way
`across the board. A few loud, poor sport fans and a more silent majority of good fans. Even Iggles fans. Yeah, i said it…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
i agree on every other board except for the iggles
they’re douches on their own board!
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
That's cool dude...
Just being honest though, I don’t have much for your blog. I think there wasn’t any real relevant columns being posted. There wasn’t any analyzation of the game, just guys getting pissed because of whom ESPN did or didn’t pick.
Also I still don’t get the anger over the Pearson play… been 20 years.
But you’re a good dude.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think he pushed off.
But that doesn’t make me feel much better right now.
Oh lol oops!
HAHA My bad Raul!!!! Forgive my ignorance.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
No worries
and the picture?
Congratulations Bob Hayes
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 17, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Lol!
I’m adding that to my collection, Raul!
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
I still havnt seen it. Can i get a link? lol
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Lol HAHA Nice!
But I cant say too much considering we dont have one.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Well thank you
But the Saints will be a tough task, they didnt go 13-3 for no reason.
Any chance you guys wanna send over that “secret formula” you guys used to beat them? :)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Just do the same as you did today and you will be fine....
good luck next week
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Thanks man
But Any given Sunday. Im liking our chances but you never know. This team has sent me to hell and back about 40 times but for some only God knows reason I keep coming back to them.
Ace Duece "Returning On Them" Live:
Coming to a city near you
Minneapolis New Orleans
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Eden Prarie
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah...
score first. That seemed to panic the Saints.
BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Ok so then we'll want to win the toss
Ace Duece "Returning On Them" Live:
Coming to a city near you
Minneapolis New Orleans
Miami Mankato
Eden Prarie
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 17, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Take away the deep pass and force Brees to throw underneath.
Bush looks really good right now, though.
BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Cut Westbrook, trade McNabb...
and lets see who yall get to replace them.
If we are going to talk about past seasons
it may be time to talk about the number of Eagles Superbowl wins
They did kick our assess
Next year it may be different, but this year the Cowboys are better than us.
We can never say they’ll never win anything, just like nobody can say the Eagles will never win the SB.
Enjoy the awesome win by the Vikings, but don’t go overboard here.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History
This is the year
the game
3 points in the playoffs is inexcusable…jason garrett needs to go…he sucks…kyle kosier sucks he couldn’t move a d lineman in run blocking and could not keep his man in front of him in pass protection…this team needs a great defensive end to play alongside ratliff because our 3 down lineman got no push and no penetration on the minnesota d-line…and i say a great a de because spears and olshansky are good i guess and they are not cutting it and soneone should tell sensabaugh to turn around when the ball is in the air…and to tackle sidney rice when hes still got ten yards to go before he reaches the endzone
our defense played pretty well
btw, your olbs are expected to get pressure in the 3-4.
The defense played well today. If not for that screwup by newman and sensi, I would say they played great while the game was still in doubt.
The loss hurts but overall it was a very good season
We exorcised a lot of demons playing well in December and winning our first playoff game in 14 years. Romo proved he’s an elite qb and Wade proved he’s a very good coach. We just got beat be a better team.
That being said, there are holes to fill, and I think we have a great shot at hosting the SB next year. This team grew up a lot this season and next year we take that next step to elite status.
Looking forward to the draft and off season.
In Romo we Trust
It's nice to live in the past...
I think I’ll live in last year when Cowboys got beat 44-6 and Eagles got to the NFC Championship game…
See how stupid that sounds? Don’t talk about Super Bowl Rings Troy Aikman and Emmit Smith won, because Tony Romo and Felix Jones WILL NEVER GET YOU ANOTHER.
Yep
Next year the Super Bowl will be a HOME GAME!!!!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
Like the handful of rings McNabb and Reid have gotten your team? Oh thats right....
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
Not to point out the obvious
but you were the one who brought up the past. Go away little troll
the reason I love it when Eagles fans troll
is cause every team has a window to win championships. The Eagles had a long one. And they failed. Time and time again. To call any other team a choker is flat out funny.
Too bad
the Cowboys will never have another window as long as Wade Phillips is coaching your team, Jerry Jones is owning it, and Tony Romo is quarterbacking it.
We have one of the youngest teams in the NFC, and we’re only going to get better
The window is still open
for both teams. Going to be an interesting season in the NFC East next year.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History
This is the year
You think the Giants will be back?
I don’t know, they seemed completely lost at the end of the year, other than having the Cowboys number.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History
This is the year
they have talent and they had a lot of injuries
their young receivers will be better, so i do expect them to contend in the division again.
ehh
i dont know about the giants i think they will just be mediocre and miss the playoffs
is at peace with the fact that i am a DICK.... i am good at it.... it is what i do.... it defines who i am.... will i be hated?? most definitely... do i care?? hell no...
Thats what most Eagles fans said about Dallas
this year
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Like Dallas this year
unfortunitely they will have a third place schedule, which does give you a leg up
Instead of Arizona, Minnesota and No they get to play the 3rd place teams
If they ever get their Defense righ LOL
they might be but I dont think theyre gonna lay down again like they did in the Vikes game
I think they’ll come to play next season…
yes
i think they are going to get rid of slouches like osi. did you see the interview he did after the panthers game. if he still there next year ill be confused
is at peace with the fact that i am a DICK.... i am good at it.... it is what i do.... it defines who i am.... will i be hated?? most definitely... do i care?? hell no...
True, true
If they can get their running game back, they could be dangerous.
Man next year will be crazy in that case.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History
This is the year
it all depends on kolb
I admit I think he could be good and a better qb for the eagles than mcnabb.
In terms of championship window…I think it went with Dawkins and Jim Johnson.
Myron da moron
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
why is this moron not banned yet?!
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
great defensive end?
You do know the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4.
Who are you all these people posting?
I have never seen a lot of the names attached to these comments. Why the sudden flood of commenters in BAD times? Isn’t it more fun to post when things rae going well?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Oh, they're trolls
Just read through the full list, still got a lot of the familiar names here. just had to weed out the trollers.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Well
Same thing happened last two weeks at BGN. Though I don’t recognize most of the Eagles posters here though.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History
This is the year
Eh
We want a championship. We sometimes look for excuses. Not that he has played great in some big games, but knowledgeable fans will see that the D failed more than he did.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History
This is the year
yeah it takes more than a QB to win championships
some Dallas fans should realise that too about Romo
same thing I say about Cowboy trolls I will say about you Eagle trolls
useless.
"When people talk about Super Bowl dynasties they mention the 1970's Steelers, 1980's 49ers, 1990's Cowboys and the current New England Patriots, but nobody has dominated the Super Bowl like Anheuser-Busch. In recent years, Budweiser has been the MVP of Super Bowl advertising -- making another company the favorite to win the Ad Meter poll was never an option."
Simon Noble
You guys better enjoy living in the past
Because those 5 Super Bowl trophies you guys have will BE YOUR LAST.
he was here long enough
so that he doesn’t need a little blue pill for special time with his McNabb doll
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
in the grand sweep of things (football wise)
Tony taking this beating from his boyhood idol the legendary Favre in his last season will just be part of the story of how he assumes Favre’s mantle as the most dynamic, exciting QB in the league that everyone loves to watch make plays… starting next season!
nice to see we've got some junior high kids here
or, grown adults acting like kids.
I still believe in Romo.
yes i know the difference....
but it would be nice to get someone that will create attention and cause double teams and all that stuff…like the one guy said earlier a defensive end that can eat up space and cause distress to go alongside ratliff would be nice and i would have to agree…a guy like that then can create opportunities for ratliff….ok so maybe i went a little stray when saying the cowboys need a great defensive end….but we need to get somebody…getting chris canty canty was the man
???
Really? We just shut down the NFL’s top RB and run-blocking OL, and we got pressure on Favre all day long.
The problem today was not on defense.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
plus 1 defense was great
Harvin rook of the yr 1 catch for 1 yd, Shiancoe 1 catch in garbage time, AD WAS ALL DAY useless, Speed demon Berrian had 1 catch before garbage time finished with DeSean numbers 3 for 32 the only player we had no answer for was Sidney Rice and on 2 of his td`s the coverage was in his back pocket the other was when our D forgot to follow the guy rolling on the ground.
Yeah, defense did play well. Not amazing...
but well. There were some first downs that could have been prevented, but nothing so obvious that you can blame any one player. I wonder if Garrett gets crap for this loss. It’s hard to call plays when the line doesn’t block.
The Boys will be back next year.
This experience will not be lost in their minds. The positives will be encouraged and the negatives will be dealt with. The team will grow and next year be better.
You are right Oldboysfan, and playing the superbowl at our place will be nice
after that late TD by the scum bag Vikings team, i will now pull for the Saints and hope they lick the hell out of those purple toads
Thought the defense played well
Final number of points put up by the Vikings was not representative of how the game really went— that last TD obviously was piling on, and we spotted them a lot of short fields with turnovers and poor field position battling.
We held them at 17 for a considerable period of time, and the offense had several chances to score and get us back in it. Just didn’t happen. For the D to hold up for that stretch, though, I thought was a strong effort. Other than the two big plays to Rice, good day from that unit overall.
Our offense pulled a no-show, obviously. I thought negative plays were our big issue— either sacks, fumbles, runs for a loss, penalties, etc. Too many of those killed drives. OL obviously had trouble up front— Colombo looked slow, in particular. Not sure that it was a scheme issue and Garrett’s fault. I imagine that it was mostly a protection problem, which kept us from exploiting mistmatches int he secondary. Romo hardly had time for any downfield throws all day, which are obviously a huge part of our offense.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
this is why we need to keep Wade around
at least his defense showed up to every game. Garrett can’t say the same about his offensive squad… and it was offensive today
Force the grey-beard to retire...AGAIN
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Our O-Line is
built to run the ball.
This game was a carbon copy of the broncos/chargers/packers. Minus the chargers playing a hot defense at home.
Maybe I am naive but I feel making the field goal or even going on 4th and 1 early in the game may have been different.
Defense is oslid. The two Williams come back and get some playing time.
Need help on th eoline.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
We need GREAT players on the o-line. I don't think Kosier, Flo, or Columbo
meet that criteria.
yea...lol
you should myron about talent not winning the big one cough mcnabb mcnabb cough
NO EXCUSE
This team could have at least made the Show.
It’s onme thing to get beat..but to get slaughtered is BS.
ok...
you still going to support them?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
It's at the team site
Not a lot of quality depth now. You’ve got Holland, Free, Proctor, Brewster, and that’s about it.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I just wanted you all to know I'm already performing pagan rituals....
To ensure Felix stays healthy the entirety of next season.
So they really do have negative IQ's in Philly....hmm learn something new every day
I'm a Eagles fan cause my daddy said so,and he likes losers!!
its just Myron thats been trolling and he's hasnt even posted at BGN
I dont like painting a broad brush like that
pressure all day on favre
we didn’t get pressure on him all day…a few snaps here and there but not all day…the vikings got pressure on dallas all day…
Wow just saw something amazing in the Jets-Bolts game
Both these teams are giving their qbs this thing called time to throw.
Believe
And that would be what again?? LOL
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Idk but it seems like a pretty good new tactic
maybe we should try it next year?
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Need to get some film of it
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Maybe we were saving it for next season?
You know, like the Eagles did with blitzing.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
We'll, we have to play them next year
Maybe we played vanilla so as not to give away our gameplan?? Hmmm……could be a brilliant move…..
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Yep
just wait until next season, we will be doing all sorts of crazy things. Protecting the qb, catching the football, and Roy Williams didn’t want to give opponents film of him at his best. Just wait until next year.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
I was talking to Garrett and he said he say film of this really good play, where during the snap, the qb gets the ball without it hitting the ground. Tricky.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
You mean without fumbling it?? Yeah right. Now I KNOW you're dreaming.....
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I would be satisfied with our season
if we had just played better today; ok to lose but not get blown out.
Really thought this team had matured and would not lay an egg anymore
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
I don't know if it was laying an egg, or Minn just dominating.
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
cluck
we laid an egg; no way vikes are 30+ points better
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
In this game they were 20 points better than us...
But I don’t know that we would have won in Dallas, not this year.
It was nothing like the Eagles game
Flo out just wrecked out offence.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
But the offence was moving the ball.
If he hadn’t been injured we still had a chance.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
it wouldn't have been 34-3
but I don’t think we would’ve wn
As soon as he left
Allen strip sacked Romo and the Vikings score. It was the changing point in the game.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
Flozell was hurt on the the sack of Romo that forced the fumble. Allen blowing by him set up the Vikings to extend their lead to 14 points.
It’s mentioned in the recap of the game.
That is wrong
I just watched the replay. Free was in.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
No, Flo had just gone out the series before
That was Free’s 1st play in
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
+100
The RHG is clueless at times.
Today was one of those days.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Arizona is mature, and they laid an egg. It happens. Doesn't diminish what they Cowboys
DID accomplish this year.
+1
Sometimes it isn’t “laying an egg”.
Sometimes you just find out that another team is better, in this case Minnesota’s front four wrecked Dallas.
It is what it is.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
yea
theres no doubt we pressured him….but the way the vikings pressured romo thats pressuring a qb all day…there were a number of plays where favre had more than enough time to throw
This is less painful than other disappointments,
but it doesn’t feel good. I think they were definitely the better team and while we certainly could have played better, we just were not good enough.
and honestly...
i think we didn’t blitz enough on d…just my opinion
Ray Edwards peeking at the right time
was columbo that bad? Or did Edwards just have himself a game?
Maybe Williams just went back to what he knows …..
I feel dirty for posting this,
but I am now completely on the Saints bandwagon for the rest of the postseason.
A.) Rivers has no class. Therefore, SD is out
B.) Peyton is a media-darling DESPITE his knack for playing like crap in the postseason
C.) Favre and the Vikes have zero class.
D.) The Jets are coached by a Ryan.
Congrats New Orleans. You’re the feel-good story of the year, and I wouldn’t mind watching you win a superbowl…too much
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
Agree except for Rivers. I got no problem with him.
I’m rooting for a San Diego / New Orleans Super Bowl with a huge Chargers win.
I don't like New Orleans because some media members try to give them the title of
America’s team. I’m willing to give them the Steel Curtain… hell, why not the purple people eaters.
Bittersweet season
This game is the reason why I’m glad Dallas didn’t get the first-round bye. I didn’t want their first game being against Minnesota.
The loss is disappointing, esp. the final score. However, I try to find the silver lining. During preseason, I predicted 8-8 at best. They did three games better than that, won the division, and won a playoff game. Not looking for moral victories, but they exceeded my expectations. I’ll take the 2009 squad over 2008 anyday (the awful three-game stretch where they got blown out by the awful Rams, 44-6, etc.). They also had a good December/January and swept two of their division opponents (including a rare three-game sweep).
Romo has matured a lot this past season, and I think the loss will motivate him for next season. It still wouldn’t hurt to build an offensive line around him. As for the final TD, it was classless and Belichick-esque, but Dallas had their chance to stop them. They didn’t, and Minnesota took advantage of it.
All in all, it was a heluva ride. I’m still a fan, and I’m still proud of the season, despite the disappointment today. Just make the proper adjustments in the offseason and bring the Super Bowl to North Texas next year!
QUESTION: What is this team?
Are they a 2007 mirage or a 1991 rising beast? Was this season a good and necessary stride forward or a return to form by an underacheiver? What happens next year?
if we're a rising beast
this ol is gonna need to be improved.
As of now, untill that happens, I think we’re stuck in “good but not great” mode
which is better:
5-11 hell or 9-7/10-6 hell? :-)
the latter...
with 5-11, the season was over at the mid-point, and the only thing I had to look forward to was the draft.
I will take the last 4 years over 2000-2005 any day of the week.
just saying…we may not be an underachiever or anything like that. Just a consistently solid team (when Romo is healthy) that cannot handle top defenses due to its ol.
Sounds about right.
Sad, but incredibly true.
I thought about that as well
But honestly, take away the Romo injury during that Arizona game, Dallas probably would’ve beaten the Rams and gotten in the playoffs at 10-6. Might’ve beaten the Giants as well, but I think they would’ve been in the playoffs. But hey, it’s all could’ve/should’ve/would’ve. I don’t think ’07 was a fluke as much as it was injuries (and locker room drama) just killed them in 2008.
I looked over the ’91 squad…they were also 11-5 and at that point, won their first playoff game in nine years. They also got blown out in the second round by a similar score (38-6 by wait for it…Detroit! lol). So maybe they continue to rise from the ashes next year…
Last year the team didn't play all that well against winning teams.
We were 1-4 against the Conference championship participants. Injuries played a big factor, but we weren’t going far last year.
I think we overacheived...
The team played a lot better without a ton of talent that was exercised from the team.
I was just reading the Pearlman book about 1991
Jimmy knew they didn’t have the horses yet, but it was part of the building. OF course the key was signing Haley the next year.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
So who's our pot stirrer?
Everyone next year is going to be a restricted free agent, so I’m not sure that any new blood is going to come in and take us to the next level.
in a perfect world
a playmaking safety too, but our D is well stocked as is, and I don’t like to be greedy
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
We could cope
without a better safety and WR. But without o-line improvements this team isn’t going any further.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
This is just hard to stomach this loss
because in the NFL of the 2000s there’s virtually no consistency year-to-year. There’s more uncertainty than ever that you’ll get your chance next year.
Some teams make a run based off of success last year.
Right now there isn’t any reason to believe the Cowboys won’t have a real chance to compete for a bye next year.
Definitely not a mirage
I feel like this is more like the 1991 rising, we even lost in a dome.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
An old quote that Levy used to tell his teams in Buffalo all the time
“‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain. I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’”-Old Scottish Poem
Dallas will be back! By no means is this the end. We’re stacked for next year, and we’ll win it all in our own stadium next year.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
did Free replace Adams at LT?
so how did he play against Allen?
did he get much help? because j. allen didn´t have much stats?
First play he just left him to Witten
which resulted in a strip sack. After that he was relatively solid.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
When I actually saw them engaged I thought Free did a pretty solid job of handling his business.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
From what I remember of that play, free was also engaged with another player who, if he was ignored by Free,
would’ve have a straight shot to Romo. Seems as if Minny may have slid their lineman left to take away that double team.
I'd wait for one of Raf's patented breakdowns, but I was disappointed.
by KansasCowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
i wonder how long it will take rafa to calm down enough to write it...
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
He'll be calm fast enough
He doesn’t linger on stuff.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
he never has... all the way back to theboysblog
but i can barely write a single sentence without having to take a deep breath and compose myself. that game really stung
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
its easy for me to get over it when we were clearly beat
like the last two years.
The Seahawks and GIants losses stung for a while, and it still pisses me off thinking about them.
i don't mind playing well and losing.
that’s just part of it. sometimes you run into a better team.
but that’s not all that happened today.
we ran into a better team, but instead of playing over our heads to have a shot, we completely folded under pressure.
we packed it in under adversity…primarily our offensive line.
i was proud of the defense
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree...
we were playing well, and driving the ball and making plays, but it fell apart shortly there after. The game plan could have worked, but just didn’t.
we were playing too good a team
to leave points on the board
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Could have worked if the O-line had pass blocked
Dallas was working the middle of the defense with success. Witten, Crayton, and even Bennett were finding the soft areas of the zone defense.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Changes
1) I think MBIII just played his last game for the Cowboys. I loved the Barber from 2 years ago, but he just doesn’t seem to be the same player any more. He lacks that first step burst and has a propensity to bounce things to the outside when nothing is there. When you consider his extremely high paycheck and the carries he takes away form Felix and Tashard, I think Barber probbably has to go.
2) I think the O-line has to be reworked to some degree. I think Gurode and Bigg are solid, but the other three positions are open to debate in my opinion. Without a doubt, I think we need to spend a high draft pick on an offensive lineman (preferably a guy that is tabbed for one position). I really don’t care if it is a tackle or a guard, but the best available sounds good to me since we definitely need some new talent. Also, this may go without saying, but I think Free should be at least the RT next year and maybe even garner some consideration for LT.
3) I would like to see us draft another skill position player with a lot of speed to further help our offense. Someone mentioned Jacoby Ford and I think he would be the perfect type of guy since he could provide a real speed threat and also provide some punt returning ability similar to how Mike Wallace (a guy I wanted last year) has for the Steelers.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
keep Barber
we don’t seem to have cap issues and I think he is still good – the fact thay we have to run so many draws does him no favours
I think we make a change at tackle next year (Free starts) and maybe for Kosier as well.
We need a starting WR. I still like Crayton in the slot, I like #11 in the pressbox.
I know everyone loves Brooking but I think he is running on fumes.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
The problem with Barber
is that he is no better than Felix or Tashard. I agree that he can still be decently productive, but I think the others can be more productive and therefore to me there is no reason to keep him around at his current pay level.
As for your other points I pretty much agree except I think Brooking can still play a valuable role considering he is reasonably inexpensive and mixes well with this team.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 17, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
I want a re-working of the O line. I've been begging for it since the 2007 loss to the Giants.
No one stopped anyone today.
Same here
but it was more fun for the media and a lot of fans to make it about Romo. Now Jerry has no choice but to think about it.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
The Giants game was harder to take, but the o-line was just about as
productive, or lack there of.
Yup. Sometimes it's been easy to get lulled into thinking they're better than
they are, but this seals the deal. Jerry needs to make some moves.
I agree... but I wouldn't want to just cut Barber.
Maybe we could get a 3rd rounder for him from a team like the Browns. His contract is manageble, there won’t be any cap hit because there won’t be a cap.
Good News.
after the offense’s showing this week, i think Garrett just dropped on the coaching prospect list. now we keep wade (and his defense) AND Garrett (who has some work to do on offense).
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
Meh, I don't think this is on Garrett. What could he come up with that would compensate
for that wretched O line performance?
what jobs are out there?
he won’t take Buffalo
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
could he reunite w/ TO in Buffalo?
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
Let's give Garrett
two starting WRs like 30/32 NFL teams have
YEs I am looking at you BAltimore
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Two good WR's would be real nice
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I would settle for Austin
and a competent performer
Williams is less than a JAG at this point. If Sam Hurd gets his reps, I honestly believe he matches his production, at least in yards
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Sure
I mean the defense has to cover our guy no matter what so why not just throw Hurd out there and run RW’s routes?? Hell, throw a hobo out there. The hobo would catch as many passes as RW. All they did was single cover him
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
If were going to keep RW we need a better option than Crayton as the #3 because Witten and Austin cant do it alone
Im hoping for a WR in the draft and Ogletree to step up as the #3 next year
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Crayton is fine as a slot WR
I don’t get your issue with him
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
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Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
He’s not Wes Welker, but Crayton had a solid year this year.
could use and upgrade there.....I dont know how you cant think not....
Crayton shows up for a handfull game a year and disappears the rest….Ogletree brings a whole nother dimension to the positon. If your going to see an upgrade, your going to see it there next year…we are missing a playmaker with RW Mia….Ogletree will overtake Crayton this training camp
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
I'm in favor of a younger player out performing an aging vet.
But it’s not like Crayton isn’t playing his role.
so because our #2 WR is a lost cause
we need to upgrade at #3 WR.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't get the argument
Austin’s doing his job. Crayton’s doing his job. Ogletree is doing his job as limited as it is. Whose the one receiver not doing his job?? Isn’t that the one who we should be talking about replacing??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
well... when you only have one WR to goto and he is being doubled wheres the other guy to make a play?
exactly..we dont have one…its not RW and it’s not Crayton….it would be nice to have a better option….a guy like Jackson or Harvin as the #3 would make this offense even better…would at least scare the crap out of defenses. Right now they dont fear anyone on this team other than Felix or Austin…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
I'm not saying that you couldn't upgrade just about any position on the team but
Crayton isn’t the glaring problem on this team by far and I would argue with the idea that you couldn’t go to him. He’s made some big catches this year. 27 of his 37 catches this year were for 1st downs. That’s amazing for your #3 guy. Add 5 TD’s and a 16.8 YPC average and I just don’t think he’s the one we need to be looking at to get rid of.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
That's what he does.
He picks a player to hate and just drills him.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
our 3WR is not holding the team back
anyone who watches this game and thinks that is our issue is truly beyond me
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
not doing a whole lot either the reason for the upgrade....
him on PR is God awful….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
you specifically mentioned #3wr
now you bring PR into it – he took two to the house this year.
I bet you love Ogletree’s kick returns, even though they are entirely ordinary.
Our slot receiver is our #4 option – I don’t get your issues whatsoever. It;s like ragging on Alan Ball
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
he hasnt been very good dont get me wrong...whatever they do they have to find a PR in offseason..
they know it and so do we. They were just talking about this on DC.com about an upgrade at PR. Garrett will be able to do so much more with Oglretree’s speed and quickness once he gets in the rotation. We saw that already because he was steeling Craytons reps as the season went along.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Crayton finished 4th in the NFL with a 12.1 avg
As a PR and scored 2 TD’s
How is that remotely close to “God awful”???
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
because RW is a terrible WR
can’t you follow along?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
a Ride Weceiver?
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Something like that.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
that wrinkled my brain!
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
I guess not, I'm lost
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, if only our 3rd WR were better, the o-line maybe would have been
able to block. Bic (latin for generosity) Please.
dont hate Crayton...we just need an upgrade...you can never have enough playmakers....
if RW was solid there would be no need for one, but thats not the case…we cant have one really good player and two medicore ones…thats what we have and thats not going to cut it against the better defensive teams like we saw.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
so why upgrade Crayton
when he outperforms Williams?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
I would cut RW if it were up to me...im no fan of his...lol
problem is his contract…if we can’t upgrade Williams then make another positon better…Austin cant do it alone
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Crayton is really good as the slot WR
The upgrade needs to be at flanker, I think Ogletree could play there.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like a big possession guy
like Roy Williams- only competent
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe like Eric Decker from MIN
He’s got good hands and is listed at 6-3 215 lbs
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
We have a big possession guy...
he just sucks.
Garrett won't even get an interview.
after that showing. But I don’t think it was a bad game plan, but when we got a ton of pressure, he really needed to call more short routes, crossing routes, etc. Quick hitters, and then run draws off of the quick hitters. Tony simply couldn’t take a 5 of 7 step drop.
where were the 3 step drops?
or how about a quick-hitting run play instead of the lead draw that gives the ball to the RB 7 yards deep in the backfield?
was the o-line play atrocious? absolutely.
were there adjustments that red ball failed to make? you’d better believe it.
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Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
we were beaten so quickly
I just see no solution. If you take a 3 step drop, you don’t have as much room to step up especially with the WIliams guys in the way.
Not like he didn't know
It’s not like he didn’t know that could rush the QB….it’s called game planning for a reason
You design not only a plan but a counter to their counter…the Vikes made an adjustment and dallas couldn’t counter
who among us thought the first drive was going to be the only decent drive all day
by Simon Potter on Jan 19, 2010 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
The play that keeps driving me nuts
Late in the first half, Dallas down 14, 3rd and 3 at midfield. Viking jumps across the line, flinches, finally gets back onside.
Pro Bowl veteran centre does nothing. That was a free first down. If we get 7 before the half, there is way less despair and desperation
I honestly wonder if
he is not bright enough to exercise that discretion and they have told him to just not try
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
He occasionally does it.
But it’s not often.
Yeah, I don't know why someone on the o-line didn't jump, first down.
I can see Gurode not snapping it because he was looking between his legs, but it was a killer. I was cursing up a storm.
he was looking back at Romo through his legs
he never saw it. Maybe someone should have yelled for him to snap the ball but its kind hard to blame him when his head was almost up his ass literally
Not angry at all
This team this year succeeded my expectations, and unlike the last few years I think they can build on what they accomplished. It sucks that they loss 34-3 and played their worst game of the year, but it’s not the end of the world. These guys will be a better team next year, The last time we were destroyed in a dome like this with a up and coming team was against Detroit in 1992. The team used that let down and went on to win 3 out of the next 4 Superbowl’s.
Thanx for a good season Cowboys
Disappointing end to the season, but a good season nonetheless. I think we’d all admit that we feel better about the team now than we did at the end of last season. Many of the Cowboys key players are young and it looks like the defence will be even better next season.
I’d sure like to see the team use a couple of high draft picks on O linemen this year – it doesn’t matter how good your QB is if the O-line can’t keep him clean.
It was a good season.
Sure it could have been better, but I liked this team, and I thought they played well over the course of the year. This was the only game we got blown out, but it was close near the beginning.
Marino said that you can't defend the perfect pass,
Can we all agree that Favre had a few perfect passes in the game?
Two of the Rice Tds
absolutely
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
I'll be back. I'll commiserate more with yall later.
But this is helpful.
Sensi had perfect coverage on one of them
and no vision
nice to see our SS run with the receiver
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think that
was lost because of the score but thats good when your SS can run stride for stride with a wide out
Yep, perfect coverage.
I have NO complaints about how Sens played that. Sure if he turned around earlier, he might have gotten a pick, but that would require a 6th sense.
Nope. You look for the ball, when the receiver's eyes are looking for the ball.
by Mr._Mulligan on Jan 17, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Well then, I guess Sens shoudl have turned around after about 20 yards after the
line of scrimmage,because that is all Rice Did as he was running down the sideline.
Sure, why not? The ball was in the air, right?
by Mr._Mulligan on Jan 17, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Ed Reed is special
cause there’s no one else like him. I dont think you can hold it against Sensi that he’s not Ed Reed. I do think he should have made an effort to play the ball tho. It seemed that all he wanted to do was run stride for stride with Rice.
Yeah, but usually the WR will raise their arms which signals the ball is coming.
Unless Rice’s eyes started the bulge, the only sign the ball was coming would have been the woosh of air going past Sens’s ear.
I think that was what I noticed more than anything. The fact that our SS ran stride for stride with this young WR
If he’d learn to look for the ball he’d be pretty good
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I was impressed too, he really impressed me in the WC game
But still wondering how he didn’t see the ball at all, never tried to tackle Rice. Just a strange play.
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by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
ouch, San Diego is struggling right now.
Rivers just threw one away. Darell Revis’ impact on a game pretty much can’t be understated.
tragically lost in the angst of losing
is the fact that Joe Buck showed how much of a moron he is by insisting that the Vikings chose not to decline a penalty on themselves for 10 minutes…
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
ahaha
those were 10 of the only good minutes for the game for me.
at first I thought he misspoke, no big deal
we all get names/words mixed up. Then he kept going – even after a commercial break.
Maybe Aikman just lets him go for entertainment
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
I dont care that they lost
But getting embarrassed and not showing up is why I am mad at the Cowboys.
what is this not showing up crap?
The defense played with a lot of guts today. They gave up one drive and Newman and Sensa kinda messed up, but it was moreso just a perfect pass by favre.
Offensively…we couldn’t handle their pass rush. Period. End of story.
Why does it always have to be this?
“not showing up”
They just got beat by a better team.
Let’s face it, we were wrong, the media was wrong(to an extent).
The offensive line of Dallas is mediocre and got dominated the entire game. There was too much interior pressure to step into, and the tackles were forces to go so wide Romo was under duress the entire game.
Sometimes you just get freaking beat.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
If SD loses
Maybe we get Norv back as O Coordinator and executive assastance head coach of the offense
I don't think they fire Norv.
It’s the same question we have. Who’s better out there to replace our guys.
I'm watching the game on delay, so this is my own fault, but I'll make sure to curse
when Nate blows his load.
wow
chargers are going to lose this game. crazy.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
jets D is really really good
and yet..they wouldn’t be in this game if not for the Colts resting their guys
Maybe
They were only down 5 when Manning went off. It looks like they may play in the Championship game.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
epic fail
i thought that was the 4th quarter.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
DOUBLE epic fail
it IS the 4th Q. my tivo just jumped back half an hour and confused me.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I picked the Jets to win:)
thought that their D and run game was too good for the Chargers. Of course I also picked the Cowboys and that didnt go so well…
I had...
The Cards, the Colts, the Cowboys, and the Chargers. I must have a thing for teams that start with C.
I think I picked all losing teams this week
lol
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 17, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
because they laid down for them,
if there ever was such a thing as karma, the jets will win next week.
There's not a chance of the Jets beating the Colts.
Not with the starters playing the whole game.
Never say never
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
And the Colts have lost games they should have won on paper.
I think the Colts are the most vulnerable, but they also were god awful against the run the year they won the super bowl.
"lost games they should have won"
You’re not talking about this year, are you? The games they lost they pretty much gave away because they could.
Yeah, in years past.
I have rooted for Peyton since his rookie year, and even earlier than that. And they have shat the bed in years past.
Ok gotcha
I always rooted for him against the Patriots because he has always come off as “the good guy.” I’d like to see him get another ring this season, too.
SD going down is soooo sweet...I cant stand Rivers
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
For all the love for Rivers
hes about to be 2-4 in the playoffs (not counting the bily volek win against the colts).
Maybe..theres still time left.
Is Vincent Jackson stupid or something??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Depends
are you comparing him to Desean Jackson?
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far but he's pretty dumb
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
WOW....the jets just KO'd the chargers in their own back yarrd.....unbelievable
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
I didn't watch the game... NY vs SD
thought it would be a blowout like the rest of the games…only to find out they won…. thats crazy
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 17, 2010 7:01 PM CST reply actions
Norv had a Garrett moment
instead of throwing the ball all day on the Jets Norv decides to run on a run string team.
Garrett instead of running all day on a questionable run defense garrett tries to throw all day.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
well coming into the game the Vikes were supposedly vulnerable in the secondary and had a pretty good run defense
Felix got some runs going, but it seems that Garrett didnt adjust the gameplan to take advantage of the success Felix was having. He kept looking to go long but the O-line couldnt give Tony the time to do that.
we should have
run the ball down their throats.
we had moved the ball pretty good on the ground.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
i think they
shoul duse thenm the way they did this year.
TC needs more choices.
Barber needs to stay healthy..
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder how Felix would do if he was used like Chris Johnson
maybe not as great but how would we know unless he’s given the chance?
+1
Why not give him a shot at the starting position??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Maybe he is like Tiki,
the more carries he gets, the better he is. Or maybe he’s like reggie bush, the more carries he gets, the more dinged he is and the more likely he will breakdown constantly throughout the season. I tend to believe it’s more the latter.
Earlier in the year...
I questioned whether he could carry the load at his size…
Many on here made some strong arguments…after reviewing this as I watched the season I have to admit…it would be a huge step forward offensively if they had a more dominant ground game to go with a strong D..Barber is making too much money to get 11 carries a game
Felix has sidekick to keep his touches at 20 a game
I’ll tell you what Felix can run the ball…it would be HUGE if he could carry the load
by Simon Potter on Jan 19, 2010 1:39 AM CST up reply actions
Both Felix and Barber can carry the load
I think they compliment each other and I prefer both instead of one. Barber’s reduction in carries is due to his injury and Felix’s emergence.
Feeling a bit like Charlie Brown...
AARRRRGHHHH!
by torchindefenses on Jan 17, 2010 7:21 PM CST reply actions
Tough Loss
But after watching the post game interviews didn’t realize how much of a douche bag the Vikings coach is. Him and Favre are made for each other both classless individuals. Guess Favre was due for a win vs the Cowboys where he is now 3-9 vs the Boys. The loss of Flozell hurt the Cowboys early. Viking fans can all talk like Eagle fans have but both franchises have never won the BIG GAME. And that is what it is all about. Alot to build on this year for this Cowboys team. I hope Buehler learns how to kick field goals. Cowboys shouldn’t need to have two kickers on this team. Felix should be the primary back next year with Choice as back up. Barber is about done i think. Defense didn’t play to bad this year. Offensive line just killed this team today. Course the field goal kicking didn’t help. I hope to god the Saints put a beat down on the Vikings. And put a end to Brett Favres career.
Can't blame the Vikings for scoring.
We are losing with no chance to comeback and we are calling timeouts.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Haha
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
I fully agree Sean, run, run, run, play action - see the Jets Garrett
We shouldn’t have panicked and go to the pass. I knew Dallas was in trouble when they turned the ball over twice and didn’t score when at the Vikings 35. When Dalls gets even 7 points behind they go shotgun pass and abondon the run for the most part. This is where Jason Garrett needs improvement IMO. He needs to learn patience. We win when we are ahead, have a hard tim coming back from behind.
by torchindefenses on Jan 17, 2010 7:25 PM CST reply actions
I think there were some runs that got stuffed way too easily too.
It’s not all on Jason of course, I mean you aren’t just going to be able to run the ball the entire time on Minnesota.
I do however think that there could have been more felix in the first half.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
although that was shortly before the loss of 7 yards on run
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Romo should
not have changed the play at the line.
Columbo missed the block.
Bad move playing Columbo today.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Thats the truth.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yup, and misdirection plays are geared for fast defenses.
Minn is a big, strong defense. Their MLB weighs 275!
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. But we only have used misdirection recently...
and the Vikes didn’t bite the way the Eagles did. So it was our own screw up there.
I disagree
With this line we have very rarely just lined up and moved the pile for a gain. We start having success with the run and then think we can just run at will. We just can’t.
IT'S WADE
People, honestly, 3 mucho embarrassing games in three years (Giants07, Philly08, Vikes09/10). Dallas is better than what they showed today. It seemed once again that the offense did not show up for a big game. That falls on the coach. Period. Just think what this team could do if it had a little fear of failing in ’em. Think about that. Ya know?
No....
Fear wasn’t going to make the offensive line get dramatically better.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 17, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
That's not the point...
It looks like this team goes into big games without a sense of urgency. They think they are better than they are and it’s the head coach who allows that to creep in. They came out on offense without their usual pop, workmanlike without that feel of hustle.
If anything, though, I do remember being decimated by the Lions back in ’91 in the second round. The following year they put it together. But they also had a coach who puked (probably on players themselves) when he lost a game of any kind – lol.
No way about wade
Garrett was Jerry’s boy.
He is the problem.
Wade is not allowed to over rule garrett.
Dump garrett andpick up turner’s brother.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
i agree
wade isn’t the coach of the offense. this team basically has two head coaches. Wade over D and ST, Garrett over O.
Garrett’s squad was a no-show today. See 3 points. The D held us close enough to still have visions of a comeback for the better part of this game.
Keep Wade. Dump the really tall leprechaun. He’s done.
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
GunsUp
by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
+100
This falls on garrett.
Again we gave up on the run.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
That makes little sense to me.
Minnesota’s D-Line absolutely handled the OLine. What is Garrett supposed to do when his guys are not pass blocking? They ran well for a while, but one negative play can keep you from running it more.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Thanks for the injection of rationality Aaaron.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
as usual garret gave up on the run just like he did against the giants two years ago.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
We were down quite a bit, and the running game wasn't productive...
sure you don’t give up on it, but you also don’t keep running into a brick wall.
We moved the ball
in the first quarter with pases and runs.
got doewn 14-3 and the vikes tee-d off on us knowing we are throwing.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Completely wrong
We started the 2nd half with 4 straight runs. Then Barber lost 7 yards and we passed. Then the Vikings scored and the lead blew out.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
By the time the scond half started
the Vikes were well rested and no matter what we do they would have stopped us.
We stopped running in the second qtr and the Vikes knew it.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Well if they stop us automatically in the second half
we may as well have given up in the first. Logic fail.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, why even come out and run at all in the 2nd half??
I mean if they were going to stop us no matter what
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Felix looked great, but as soon as Barber lost those yards, then they have to pass.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
*had
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
The rest was a big factor.
But I don’t think we were beat up to the point to where it would just be that huge of a factor.
Run wasn't working
He only stopped running it when the lead got really big. And the pass is the way to score on the Vikings. See the Packers games.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
The run doesn't score points.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
but tires the defense and keeps them off balance.
that was lost as soon as we started to ebcome pass happy.
This O-line isn’t made to pass 40 times a game.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
But they're even worse at run blocking.
It simply hasn’t been their forte this season. Recently, they’ve been okay, but this was one of the best rush defenses in the league. If they had a weakness, it was the secondary. Romo had zero time though.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
The Fox guys said guys were running free in the secondary...
but you need time to step into the throw. Without that, you are f’d. Kinda like McNabb last week, though I don’t think his guys were that open.
Aaron, let me first say that I respect you and usually agree with you
but your argument makes absolutely no sense. The O-line didn’t block well. So, what? We just bag it and go home?
NO. it’s the OC’s job to get his guys playing. we blame Wade if the D isn’t tackling, or covering. it’s the coordinator’s job to get the most out of his players.
with our coaching situation, Garrett is the head coach of the offense. His squad stunk it up today. Wade’s D kept us close most of the game, but the O never came through.
This is on Garrett. I’m overreacting by saying he should get fired, but this lays squarely on his shoulders.
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
The o-line coach is more to blame.
The coordinator has to presume blocks are going to be made.
Nope
The RHG is responsible for the offense.
the o-line coach reports to him.
When we stop running Romo gets killed.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
I agree to a point.
I want them to run all the time, but one negative play puts you at 2nd-and-12 or something, which isn’t a running down.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
+100
mirror imgaes to the brocnos/packers/chargers losses.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
So when Folk missed kicks
you blamed DeCamilis?
Sometimes players just let the coaches down with poor play.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
however when the offense throws these stinkers up like we idd a few times Garrett never catches any heat.
Wade is always the guy taking the heat.
Garrett is just as culpable Wade.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
If he uses poor technique... then yes.
Coaches gives players the tools to succeed, after that, it’s mostly up to the players.
The players sucked.
How is that on Garrett? He called good plays and they moved the ball at the onset. Colombo was making Ray Edwards look like Julius Peppers. Kosier was playing ole with anybody who lined up across from him. Romo had absolutely no time to look downfield.
No amount of gamefilm is going to find some special play that will counter getting their asses physically kicked. It’s not like Minn was blitzing.
Now, I did scratch my head on seeing JWitt mano-y-mano on Jared Allen. But, overall, you can’t blame a coach because the players don’t do their jobs. They got beat on nearly every snap.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
they didn't even blitz that much
slants for the sake of slants doesn’t work.
Good point
Throw slants to beat the blitz. They didn’t blitz because they didn’t have to. I’m sure we had guys open but Romo just didn’t have time to find them
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I woulda rather they got something going downfield, but there was no pocket.
Even if they kept in extra protection, that would free up the safeties to double on Miles.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
I know what you mean
I was waiting for Austin to match Rice. But Romo never had the time.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Dont be silly Allen
a good coach like Sean Peyton would have said “play better” and Romo would never have been sacked. This is all Garrett’s fault.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Woody Allen?
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
You know
I have no idea why I wrote Allen.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
That easy huh?
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
I think it is the responsibility of the coach to get into the faces of the
lineman, and tell them to MAN THE F’ UP. If they want to be a expletive, then they can f’n go home now and start walking.
If that doesn’t work, not much you can do beyond that.
I think that is a fair assessment. Obviously it wasn't every play...
but as an overall picture, there was very little we could do.
Who are you going to replace him with?
I don’t think Cowher wants the job, and Chuckie wasn’t a great coach, he just pushed the bucs over the edge and then they progressively got worse over his tenure.
Hey guys i'm back, made the team.
So, Dallas loss was mostly due to the line collapsing, somehow if it was a loss, i figured that would be the cause, that or a last second susiham miss.
Congrats, dude!
You don’t happen to play left guard, do you?
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
its right side actually, that or a Tight End
but we practiced vanilla today, so I was mostly line blocking. I think I need to be more condiditioned though.
Biggest game of the year - who didn't show up today
Biggest game of the year – who didn’t show up today?
Roy Williams…ZERO catches
the guy eats too much cap space
Ill tell you who else didn’t show up today…wade
You can’t get spanked like this in such a big game with this much talent
they got beat bad on both sides of the ball…
it’s one thing to lose in a shootout or a low scoring game
at least one part of your team played well
Too many points given up and no points scored…in the biggest game of the yeat
That falls on Wade
Let Wade have
a say in the offense and then you can blame him.
He has absolutely no control or say in the offense. The is the RHG area.
Offense was bad today and that is garrett’s fault.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Wade has a say
He’s the head coach
But that just emphasizes my point….if he doesn’t have the power to do whatever he wants and the players know it…then he doesn’t command their full attention and respect
They will not follow this guy into the fire..JJ takes care of that
by Simon Potter on Jan 19, 2010 1:45 AM CST up reply actions
Wade has a say
he wanted Brooking and he got him
he wanted Olshansky and he got him
he wanted DeCamillis and he got him, etc, etc, etc
Here's the thing about this year:
Ya’ll can talk all you want about Cowboys owning the Eagles this year, and yes, you’d be right: the Cowboys were better than an injured Eagles team in a rebuilding year. Absolutely. Just like LAST year, the Eagles owned the Cowboys.
But now the offseason has arrived for BOTH teams. Neither has made it to the Super Bowl, and that’s all that matters. The only difference between the Eagles and the Cowboys now, as it pertains to NEXT YEAR, is that the Eagles a.) have a higher draft pick and b.) are not hogtied by the “final 8” free agency restrictions next year.
So in a way, the Eagles actually did better this year – if you look at the goal of a season being the winning of a Super Bowl. Neither could do it this year, but at least the Eagles have more ammo going into the draft and free agency than the Cowboys.
If the Cowboys come back next year and own the Eagles again, my hat’s off to them, but right now it’s anybody’s game, just like this year it was the same way after 44-6. The Eagles could come right back and own Dallas next year, and even win the Super Bowl.
And before you come back with "5 rings"
That’s all you guys have STILL: the past.
Nothing in the present.
How much did 44-6 matter in 2009?
It didn’t once Dallas beat the Eagles in 2009, just like this won’t matter when Philly beats Dallas next year.
IT’s the offseason, both teams are at 0-0 right now.
Except the Cowboys are a better 0-0
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Not in the offseason they're not
Jerry Jones would love to spend money on free agency to beef up his team, but because Dallas ended up in the top 8 he will have restrictions placed on him that the Eagles won’t.
So actually, you guys are worse off.
the iggles are
the cheapest organization in football.
you are happy with meriocre.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
But we have a better team
So we are better off.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
You don’t have the better team. You only had the better team this year, in 2009, because the Eagles had to deal with too many injuries and rookies.
Next year the teams will be different, just as in 2009 the teams were different after 44-6.
3-0
We are better. And always will be while McNabb is on your team.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO
Everybody inthe NFC will have a chance to blow you out as long as Wade Phillips and Tony Romo are on your team.
Beat you three times this year
lol
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Dont bring logic into the debate
You might confuse him.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
if you're dumb enough to think you're gonna improve your team through FA this offseason
you’re one of the dumber eagles trolls I’ve seen.
FA is gonna be slim pickings.
maybe not with teams looking to unload inflated contracts....it could be very active
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
agreed
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol denver will rise again
That's true, but do people seriously want
Roy Williams. Either one. Both are over payed.
True... all the free agents will be crap other teams don't want.
So many players will get restricted free agent tenders and teams will have to give up picks to get them. Very unlikely to happen.
teams will just out right cut the players with loaded contracts if they cant trade them...
and yes people want other peoples garbage. It happens all the time….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
hve you any idea how stupid this comment is
the one thing the cowboys dominate at is the draft
Nobody in the NFL is better at finding gems
get your facts straight
by Simon Potter on Jan 19, 2010 1:48 AM CST up reply actions
Your forgetting that the Skin's win every offseason
with their coach signings and free agent acquisitions. So right now we may be in the lead at 0-0, but just wait for the skins to do something stupid that is hailed as brilliant. Maybe they trade for Tom Brady.
remember the Eagles
have the distinct pleasure of one of a few teams to be in the Super Bowl twice and have never won the SB
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
wow you made a sensible post...thats progress!
and Id much rather have the year we had than have lost 3 games like you guys did. I think the Cowboys are set up pretty good for next year as well.
+100
we get a few draft picks back from injury and our drafts have been poretty good.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
Only one prob with your assessment
The Eagles QB is old and slow – looks close to done. That poses a problem. I think we’re just seeing the every 10 year changing of the guard. Unless the Eagles find another franchise QB (and it aint Vick) they will be the middling team they were this year. Nice pick up with DeSean, but he can be contained by a good defense and still has a small look about him. Fast, though.
Kolb's not bad at all tho
I think they might actually be better off with Kolb starting than with McNabb, even though Ive defended McNabb in the past from Eagles fans who want to crap on him
He's only played 3 games...
The jury is still out on Kolb.
Kolb aint it either...
unfortunately for Eagles fans… franchisers dont grow on trees.
I still respect McNabb. As much as we were all over him in the 2nd game...
he kept escaping sacks. Eagles fans just don’t realize how good he is. It kinda like when Bledsoe was benched, how our O-line immediately improved 10 fold.
yea I really hope he doesn't pan out
I kinda think he will. I think hes the prfect fit for that offense.
3 games. Maybe if they traded for Cassel, I would be concerned.
But 3 games doesn’t give a defense a chance to game plan and take away what he likes to do.
i thought this dude got banned?
he’s back?
Texas: Where God goes to relax.
Unless he's watching the Cowboys.
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by bulldog jeeper on Jan 17, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
one prob with your assessment...
The Eagles QB is old and slow – looks close to done. That poses a problem. I think we’re just seeing the every 10 year changing of the guard. Unless the Eagles find another franchise QB (and it aint Vick) they will be the middling team they were this year. Nice pick up with DeSean, but he can be contained by a good defense and still has a small look about him. Fast, though.
if this logic worked, then all non playoff teams would throw their last games
and non playoff teams playing each other in week 17 would lead to hilarity and hijinks as both teams try to lose
wonder why that doesn’t happen? this isn’t madden buddy
trying to get this in your post! lol!
The Eagles QB is old and slow – looks close to done. That poses a problem. I think we’re just seeing the every 10 year changing of the guard. Unless the Eagles find another franchise QB (and it aint Vick) they will be the middling team they were this year. Nice pick up with DeSean, but he can be contained by a good defense and still has a small look about him. Fast, though.
Most of the problems in the Dallas games can be traced back to poor Offensive Line… after all you guys should know about poor O-Line derailing a game, right? looks at Flozell going out and Tony Romo getting owned by Jared Allen and Ray Edwards.
We fix our O-Line in the offseason, fix our defense with draft/free agency, and we’ll be back to being the best team in the NFC East.
Philly didn't win any SuperBowls ever.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
That's all Cowboys fans can do..
Live in the past.
I think
the eagles and vikes are the only teams to be in a SUper bowl twice and never win.
that is consistency.
by oneforthethumb on Jan 17, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Who do the Eagles need to replace?
Didn’t yall just overhaul your o-line? What you need is continuity and the chance for the o-line to play with each other for several years.
5 RINGS WILL GET YOU THROUGH A LOT...
OF FUTURE PAIN. I Live in NYC and every time an Eagles fan pipes up and I bring up the 5 SB’s to their none, they get flustered. No answers except the “thats the past” laugher. Those rings are shiny and nice especially when your one of only three teams to have that many.
That's all Cowboys fans can do...
Live in the past.
EAGLES FANS CANT EVEN DO T H A T!
I’m laughing now…. omg!
That's all Cowboys fans can do...
Live in the past.
Hey, how is it like over there in 1996? Bill Clinton doing a good job as president?
How bout that new-fangled Internet? Just got my 28.8k modem for my PC!
Alright lets live in this season
Dallas beats Philly 3 times and wins the Division. Eagles do nothing.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Let's live in 2010
Why don’t we live in 2010?
Where it’s the offseason, and both teams are out of the playoffs, and the teams are going to be different this coming season.
Alright
We have a better team. SO Dallas still wins.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Out of the playoffs?
Don’t you have to get in to get knocked out…
It’s called the playoffs…not the regular season
Philly took the playoffs OFF
Don’t you have to put on a wifebeater and slap your better half around
by Simon Potter on Jan 19, 2010 1:54 AM CST up reply actions
You still living off those SB championships???
Oh, I forgot – you aint got none o’ them now do ya? You dont know what that’s like – do ya. Eagles are eternal pretenders. Believe me, I’d rather have those championship[s than always be considered a second tier franchise. 1996 is doing all of us Cowboys fans very well thank you. and 1994 and 1993 and……so on and so on.
And my stocks are going through the roof!
I LOVE 1996!!! And the Cowboys are putting a dozen players into the Hall of Fame in 10 years or so!! It’s awesome!
Hey Myron
Dallas crushed your team twice in a row (one in the post-season)
Dallas has beaten the Iggles 3 times this year
Dallas has won 4 of the last 5 meetings, and 5 of the last 7 meetings
Dallas holds the advantage all-time against the Iggles 55 wins to 43 losses.
So what exactly do you have to brag about in the present or the past???
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
+1
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
The Mrs. wasn't a fan during the 90's... so she doesn't have good memories to hang her hat on.
I forturnately haven’t missed a game (save for the first quincy season), since 1990 or 91.
Personally, I'm very satisfied that DAL won the division
beat PHI twice (three times counting the playoffs)
beat WAS twice
We’ve got a good core of young players and we’ll be back next year.
+1
Somebody said this reminds them of ’91 and I agree. Maybe that was the ’90 season…when they beat the Bears in the playoffs. Then, the rest of the decade was simply awesome.
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by Aaron Novinger on Jan 17, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yes.
I think the Lions beat us then. It was a great season overall! Here’s to next season!
Well, that's that. Congratulations to the Cowboys for their NFC East title and the three wins over the Eagles.
Sad to see it end this way, but any end is hard to take. I’ll be doing other things now that Cowboy football has ended. I’ll tune back in around draft time.
I wish the Vikes the best of luck next week against the Saints. One more thing, maybe Favre is the best of all time.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
I think Peyton's the best of all time actually
he might get his second ring this year. I dont really have a fave between the Saints and the Vikes, but after all NO has been through with Katrina, I’ll be puling for them
sorry
guys thanks for treating me with class better luck next year
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Yeah you to mate
Good luck next season.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
u too
the super bowl it is dallas next year maybe u will be in it
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol denver will rise again
Hopefully it will be Dallas vs Denver
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
i like that
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol denver will rise again
Thanks j-man
Good luck to your Broncos.
You should have plenty to discuss this off-season in Denver.
Drago says, "We must break you!"
by APerfectStar on Jan 17, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
we do
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol denver will rise again
Well I'm not happy
some of you guys seem satisfied with this season but I think the team collapsed today.This game could have been won, but Dallas folded. Seriously…31 points? They went back to early Dec. ball. Lateral on a kickoff early? Really? Not as bad as 44-6 but come on, man!
I disagree
Minnesota was the better team, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.
In Romo we Trust
I thought it was the bar...
But that makes more sense. I should watch that movie again.
Not happy
but it was a respectable year and hopefully with some upgrades (Oline and SS), we can go deeper next year.
What was impressive about today...
was that whatever we tried was blown up by the Vikes. They really were prepared for what we threw out there.
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