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Brandon Marshall to the boys?

today i heard that the boys are in the brandon marshall sweepstakes. we all know what he can do on the field (NFL record 21 receptions in a single game), but we would probably have to give up a 2nd and/or 3rd round draft pick for him. Also, theres a big chance he could be T.O. 2.0. im on the fence about this one, yes miles austin has showed he is our #1 receiver, but if all we have across from him is patrick crayton or roy williams were gonna have a hard time getting him the ball. If we do do this, it will most likely mean the departure of roy williams, and possibly crayton too, making kevin ogeltree the number 3 receiver. I dont know if i like this, your thoughts?


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And difference between T.O. and Marshall is if Marshall explodes he doesn’t have anyone in the locker room backing him up. T.O. brought guys to his side.

I think Marshall is a good risk. What he could do for our offense would be amazing. If it doesn’t work out then you cut him. But he is a risk that is worth taking.

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 4:19 PM CST reply actions  

would love this move....

Marshall is a big body with speed…..add Ogletree as the 3rd with Austin and thats a impressive unit.

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Marshall is not a locker room cancer like TO.....

His only problem in Denver was the way the organization handled the Cutler situation if you remember

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yes he is, he's T.O. junior

both in talent and attitude

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by Terry on Jan 24, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

disagree...

either way its a pipe dream I know….he is an amazing talent..He and Andre are the top two WRs in the league right now. We will probably see him in a Redskin jersey next season anyway…

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he is as big of a cancer as TO

and if he did come here, this team has went through the dumps and come together, I don’t think he would have a choice but to join in as well

by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 24, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

as big?? are you kidding me??

I don’t want any type of cancer on the Cowboys!!!

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 25, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

C’mon, just a little cancer?

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by yomjoseki on Jan 25, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

marshall seems pretty 'T.O.' to me

don’t care how good he is. haven’t the Cowboys spent the last two seasons gravitating away from exactly this type of player and attitude??!!

Right after the game, say as little as possible.
-Tom Landry

by Chim Richolds on Jan 27, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly...

Marshall would have to fall in line behind established leaders such as Tony and Jason. He wouldn’t have the pull that T.O. had and since we know Jerry would pay him, I think he would be on his best behavior. And if he is on his best behavior, he is a top ten receiver in this league.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 24, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

I don’t want him in a Cowboys uniform, but neither in a redskins one

by ratware on Jan 24, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I call BS

unless the Broncos want to do Roy + a third for marshall. That makes some sense. But no way we give up a first for him – we’ve been burned by wr trades too many times.

There are so many reasons this won’t happen.

1. We don’t want any more diva wrs in the locker room. and the aforementioned failed wr trades

2. Austin put up clear number 1 numbers, witten was great again, craytons a good number 3, roy is a question mark and ogletree has serious potential. We have all the weapons we need.

3. We need these draft picks. Our oline needs fresh legs and dl needs depth. As I said before, for a third and Roy, it wouldn’t kill our draft, but giving up a first would be a HUGE mistake.

I think this is the media making the BS Jerry loves big name players reasoning.

by foyesboys on Jan 24, 2010 4:23 PM CST reply actions  

No shot in hell...

Roy Williams – 5 years, $45 million.
Miles Austin – Soon to get something in the Roy Williams neighborhood.
Brandon Marshall – Also looking for a monster contract.

You simply can’t pay 3 receivers in excess of $9 million each. Not happening, no way, no how.

by JimmyK on Jan 24, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

Thats not true at all

Anytime a big name WR becomes available, idiots start rumors we’re interested, but there’s no way in hell Jerry goes down that road again.

Jerry loves our WR corp as well he should.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

Jerry is upgrading dude...count on it..he isnt going to spill the beans on his draft plans...that would be stupid

FA or draft he is getting a WR…Hurd is done and Crayton has one foot out the door…

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry is trading down...we wont have a first

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Please no, not again...

#$%#$%^%^&%$!!

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by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I heard this wind blow before

If Jerry does anything this year, it will be to move up in the 1st rd. We moved down last year, Jerry isn’t doing that 2 years in a row unless we get a #1 in 2011.

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by Terry on Jan 25, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry is just blowin smoke like he always does Terry

haven’t you learned anything?

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

he doesn't always blow smoke, you should know better

In this case, I don’t think he is because our WR corp is very solid

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by Terry on Jan 24, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

its not solid dude....

Austin is the only solid WR we have…RW is a bust and Crayton is old and slow….Hurd is gone….Ogletree, they aren’t ready to committ yet to…we need an upgrade and more speed at the position….Just look what the Colts with speed at the 3 and 4 spot can do…take Wayne away and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th WRs will burn you..

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

no, our WR corp is solid

RW is still capable of being a good #2, Crayton is much better than you think and Olgetree is going to be a player

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

its shakey..needs an upgrade..

Crayton stinks and shows up a handfull times a year. He isnt special enough not to think we dont need an upgrade. Ogletree is going to be the future #3, but thats unclear when, hopefully next year. You can never have enough talent and speed on offense and we need more. Jerry hasn’t drafted a talented WR in some time and its time this year. Its an excellent class for speed WRs. Teams have showed that you can start a rookie WR and he will be productive so thats not an issue. Have a rookie compete with Ogletree for the #3 in training camp. Worst case scenerio we have two speed guys as the #3 and #4 going into next season. One of those players will also be the PR.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

you're delusional if you really think Crayton stinks

Crayton is a very good slot receiver. Olgetree could beat out RW for #2, either way, we’re in good shape at WR.

It would nice to add another talented receiver, but definitely not a priority.

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by Terry on Jan 24, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I would be more comfortable if we picked up someone

I don’t think we need to spend a premier pick on a WR, but maybe a fourth on Freddie Barnes, his stock is going up and I think he would be a good pickup, I also like Emmanual Sanders as a UDFA

by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Sanders is like a faster version of Davon Bess

He’ll get drafted.

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess mediocre makes you happy Terry, because thats what Crayton is AVERAGE....

We need better than average….look at the teams other than the Jets in the remaining games. All three of those teams are loaded with talent from the 1 to 4 WR positions

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

keep this in mind...

Jerry wants the superbowl in his house in 2011 in the worst way….He is going to stack the deck as much as possible loading this team with talent. Its a win now league. You really think Jerry is going to pick a boring lineman with the 27th pick that has ZERO chance of seeing the field…. c’mon…think guys…Jerry is all about the bling….lol

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Did someone call me?

;-)

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by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

outside of Austin the WRS are average....Ogletree is the only one that can be better than average

Crayton, RW and Hurd=AVERAGE! all could use an upgrade…none of them should feel secure about their jobs and all are expendable, except maybe RW and thats because of his contract only.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 25, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Dallas has an overabundance of 6-foot plus guys

I’ve said repeatedly, they need a Lee Evans/DeSean Jackson stretch-the-field kind of player.

Not a Wes Welker type and not another big body like Austin either.

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- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I definitely agree...

Other than the obvious Golden Tate, who fits that description who fits that description for you?

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 25, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

OMG.....some freaking logic being spoken...preach it 5Blings...lol

Ive said the same things also. Desean Jackson, Percy Harvin type player as the #3. A threat to defenses on every snap to take it the distance. We have one player right now and thats Austin. Rookies have shown that can contribute from the start. Go into next season with a rookie and Ogletree competing to be the #3 WR. That way other than RW we have speed from 3 out of the 4 WRs…

Just look at the two teams in the Super Bowl and that should give you an idea what speed can do to defenses.

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 26, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Crayton doesn't stink.

I think they could improve there but I don’t know why you’re even having this discussion Terry.

This is what Boyzfan does, he picks a player and he hangs onto them and just goes after them over and over.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 25, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

How were you right on Carpenter?

He is a DECENT player but he isn’t anything great. How many first rounders are drafted to be nickel LB’s?

There is nothing special about his play at all, he’s decent.

Congratulations.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 25, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

meaning everyone and there uncle said he wasnt going to be here the last two season..

also, that he is better than Burnett which he is…20th picks in the first rounds are not super star players anymore…you would expect top 10 but after 20 you just hope that the player is good. Look at Spears? good, but nothing special….some say bust…Newman….ahhh…I won’t go there…

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 26, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Wake up and go back to sleep Terry.....

Just go ask any SD fan how Burnett is….One of the main reasons our nickel defense is better is because of Carpenter. He can cover alot better than Burnett…. Hater….Burnett was a bust of a 2nd round pick face it….

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 26, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he covers ALOT better than Burnett.

I would have to get OCC to do some comparisons, but there hasn’t been alot of times where I see Carpenter and I go, “Man that nickel LB spot is so much better now that he is in there.”

He might be a push, but that’s about it.

 

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 26, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

How were you right about T.O.??

This I have to hear

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by Terry on Jan 26, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I said TO was going to get cut in a matter of weeks prior to it happening and people thought I was crazy...

I was also pushing Austin being the next TO in the making. He has the size and speed to be a #1 in this league. At the time I can understand people didnt think so, Im just glad he got his chance because it wasnt the coaching staff that saw the light. It had to take an injury to RW for Garrett to wake up and see what he had.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 26, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Garrett knew what he had

I give the coaching staff a lot of credit for bringing Austin from nothing but potential to present day stud WR. You could tell each season he got a little bit better. I think he would have had a good year in ‘08 if he and Romo hadn’t been injured. His performance in Green Bay was a preview of what was coming.

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by APerfectStar on Jan 26, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Why should anyone "love" our WR corps?

Austin is really great, but after that, are we really that solid? RW is clearly not a #1 talent and cannot really be counted on to be a consistent threat. Crayton has maxed out his potential as a solid #3 receiver and does not provide any threat that coaches have to game plan for. Hurd is a career special teams player and has not shown the ability to do anything down the field. Ogletree could be a very good player, but he still has to take that next step into being a consistent player on the field.

Do I think our receiver corp is terrible? No I don’t. But it is unquestionable that we could upgrade.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 24, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

not true at all

and I’ll remind you after we carpet bomb OL and DL in this years draft. WR is very low prioritiy.

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by Terry on Jan 24, 2010 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

good luck with that...Jerry doesnt have luck with lineman early and he knows it....

3rd and 4th rounds the earliest…

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 24, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

MIKE HAMLIN!

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

FS

SS we are good w/ Sensi, Hamlin, and Watkins but at FS we have K. Hamlin (who has been a turd since his contract) and Ball… neither inspires confidence in me, Ball more than Hamlin tho

by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 24, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Sensi can play FS

Mike Hamlin at SS

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong...

I really don’t like the idea of drafting WR early in the draft. But if you can get a Brandon Marshall for a third round pick and Roy Williams, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t do that. You could still go OT in the first, FS in the second, and another lineman in the fourth. That right there would upgrade our team more than any regular four player draft could in my opinion.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Jan 24, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

that makes sense to me

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by Seanrude on Jan 24, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That rumor is just Marshall's Agent breaking wind.

Remember how Matt Jones was ‘rumored’ to be in talks with Dallas at the beginning of the season? Well, it turns out his agent was suffering from flatulence at the time.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 24, 2010 4:46 PM CST reply actions  

No way I heck would I do this

We don’t need the hassle. I think Jones sees how much good chemistry can do for a team, he’s not going to upset that now.

by John Boy on Jan 24, 2010 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

If they take Roy I would be all for it.

Problem is nobody in their right mind will trade for him.

by houseofprime on Jan 24, 2010 5:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Enough with WRs

Upgrade the Oline now or all we will have is a bunch of stud WRs running around the field while Romo lays on his back.

by Billito on Jan 24, 2010 6:08 PM CST reply actions  

+ What ever number the next stimulus package is

Sounds like you were one of a few who saw the game last week. This obsession with shinny objects (no 1 WR) that make people loss focus is disturbing. WR is not what this team needs to win the ultimate shinny object in football, the Vince Lombardi Trophy.

Really people how hard is it to say I want this or I want that. I want! I want! I want!

It’s not about what you want, but what this team needs. If you listen to the commentary from the game last week. Joe and Troy both said that WRs were running wide open, but Tony could not see them through his helmet ear hole.

Oh yeah read what quincyyyy posted below.

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by I'm a Cowboy on Jan 24, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Again where did you hear this rumor

don’t just post crap without sources. Otherwise you are just another Ed Werder.

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 6:12 PM CST reply actions  

It was brought up on some radio shows

105.3 the Fan had it on one of the podcasts, but it is truly just a rumor, no substance at all

by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 24, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

who on the Fan?

random fans who called in or the radio show hosts?

Was it idle speculation, or did they know someone in the know who told them that?

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by quincyyyyy on Jan 24, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I dunno

I’m digging the Romo-friendly offense (even though it doesn’t score enough touchdowns for now). Marshall could move that back to the Me-First offense T.O. brought. Remember that temper tantrum Marshall threw at the Broncos practice? Don’t want that in Dallas.

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by Grady90 on Jan 24, 2010 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He’s a immature prima donna. I hope that Jerry has learned his lesson about signing malcontents. Not to mention the amount of money that would be wrapped up in the WR position.

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by APerfectStar on Jan 24, 2010 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

I would rather we see how good our current WR corp is

if our QB has time to actually hit them. The Minnesota game I offer as evidence.

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by Benthere on Jan 24, 2010 11:33 PM CST reply actions  

+1

Give this team a dominate O-line and this passing game will pick defenses apart. I have confidence that Olgetree will be a sold starter next to Austin.

The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Jan 25, 2010 7:05 AM CST up reply actions  

That's my dream scenario

Couple of new faces starting on the O line, Austin and Ogletree as the starting WRs. I may start crying right now just thinking about how awesome it would be and how unlikely it is.

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by the red scare on Jan 25, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this....

“He’s not a locker room cancer.”

Maybe not the way Owens was but before the first of the season he was jogging in practice and when guys were throwing passes his way he was batting them down to the ground.

In the game against the Chiefs he got benched and while McDaniels caught the brunt of the blame, it was reported that players hated that he was not being accounted for and that most of them felt like he was milking an injury.

I’m not saying he can’t change or that he will always be a knucklehead, but he’s highly volatile and he wouldn’t be a good fit in a Dallas lockeroom that is trying to change it’s culture.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 25, 2010 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

The Cowboys just don’t need to revert back to working with these types of players…

The unity this team played with made all the difference down the stretch this year.

I’d much prefer that they bring in a fire breathing dragon of an offensive tackle and / or guard to own the line of scrimmage with.

The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Jan 25, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

as much as RW is a disappointment, that is not the position upgrade that will make us dominant

by Becho on Jan 25, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Shockey is a knucklehead

But obviously the team culture Payton has created in New Orleans has made him more of an asset than a liability.

That said, look at Randy Moss. Eventually, the idiot part of him surfaced. These guys just can’t change their stripes.

Dallas, after doping what it did last offseason, can’t afford to change course now.

It will need to win with character guys that may not be flashy, but certainly won’t create a problem either.

Now, would I trade Telly B straight up for Marshall? Hell yes, because that is an idiot for idiot kind of deal. :-)

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by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 10:24 AM CST reply actions  

*DOING what it did

Ugh

Monday morning typing…

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- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

And

even Shockey’s first year with NO could be considered a huge bust.

Shockey is IMO probably one of the most overrated players in the NFL.

Injury prone without breaking 1000 yards EVER, or getting double digit TDS.

Sorry, you just happened to bring up a player whom I was having a discussion about the other day. I will step off my soap box….NOW.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 25, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

How do you REALLY feel about Shockey?

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by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Bottom line......

We need to focus on the offensive line first. I’d rather have the best offensive line in the league with avg. wr’s, rb’s, etc. than a crappy, old offensive line witth Andre Johnson, Adrian Petterson, etc. Just imagine if we had the offensive line we had in the 90’s with Romo, Felix, and all the rest. We need two solid o-lineman and at least one that can deff. be a starter right away.

by doomsday D on Jan 25, 2010 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Yes Oline

Finally…

And since we were a final 8 and the year is uncapped we can only sign one big name free agent. Let him be an angry fat man!

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by Mojoness on Jan 25, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love this.

Trade Crayton and find a way to get rid of Roy, put Ogletree in the slot, and line Marshall up on the opposite side as Austin. That would be ridiculous. I’ve been advocating this ever since I found out Marshall would be a FA. Also, he and McDaniels don’t seem to get along very well, so I’m pretty sure it’s not that far-fetched to say that he probably wants out of Denver. The problem is, I just don’t see how likely this move would actually be. If anybody can pull it off it’s Jerry though.

Jimmy Johnson for GM.

by TXHC on Jan 25, 2010 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

Problem

When Romo gets sacked and B-Marsh feels uninvolved, he will get angry or lazy, or both.

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- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jan 25, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Marshall isn't T.O.

But if he pouts every once in a while so be it. At least he’ll produce. Roy Williams whines all the time and he sucks, so it’s not like that’s anything new. And no doubt we need to address the O-line, but that’s what the draft is for. I would fully support Marshall to Dallas, if the price is right (player and pick wise, not money). And it goes without saying (I think) that we would have to shed some salary in order to make it happen.

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by TXHC on Jan 26, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

u can have him

for a 1 and 3

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by j-man on Jan 25, 2010 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

He is a free agent in 2010

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81561ba1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

According to that article, it says that he will be a free agent this off-season; if there is no salary cap he will be a restricted free agent; if there is a salary cap he will be a free agent.

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by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2010 10:53 PM CST reply actions  

It's kind of a double edged sword.

If there is a cap, we probably wouldn’t be able to get him because of our cap space. Unless they were stupid enough to take maybe Roy Williams and some picks or if we could find somebody else to pawn Roy off on. If there is no cap, Denver might franchise him or something (who knows though, maybe they both want to be rid of each other) and either hold on to him or trade him for draft picks.

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by TXHC on Jan 26, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

If they are stupid enough to trade Cutler for Orton

I get the feeling Josh McD would be stupid enough to take Roy Williams.

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by Rohpuri on Jan 26, 2010 12:39 AM CST reply actions  

You guys are killing me

with this trade RW talk. Jerry is not going to trade Roy because Roy puts butts in the seats. Think about it. When the Cowboys traded for Roy they had T.O. and Witten. Do you really think Roy was going to be targeted with the ball more than those two guys? Seriously? Roy’s performance in Detroit did not deserve the contract or the draft picks that got him to Dallas. However, with a billion dollar new stadium, bringing home one of Texas’ favorite sons made the deal worthwhile to Jerry. Save your breath, RW is not going anywhere.

by jevans1729 on Jan 26, 2010 7:00 AM CST reply actions  

Roy puts butts in the seats?

Seriously? Wouldn’t an effective WR that helped this team get to the Super Bowl put more butts in the seats?

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by Seanrude on Jan 26, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Read the entire post.

My point is the deal for Roy was a business decision by Jerry due to Roy’s popularity as a UT grad. Having said that, I do not consider Roy the abomination that you do. To answer your question, no I don’t believe that another receiver would have had the fan appeal in Texas that RW brought based on his UT career.

by jevans1729 on Jan 26, 2010 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

I don't think that's entirely true

Maybe Roy being a Texas alum was 5% of the reason Jerry got him. But the other 95% was because the Cowboys thought he would be really good.

They could have drafted Quan Cosby last season if filling roster spots with UT grads was a priority.

Drago says, "We must break you!"

by APerfectStar on Jan 26, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to compare the

situations at the time they occurred. At the time the Cowboys got Roy, everyone was clamoring for a WR to play opposite T.O. Terry Glenn was gone and the Dallas offense was floundering a bit. Jerry heard Roy was unhappy and saw an opportunity to get a fairly young receiver to play opposite T.O. If you consider that Moss was obtained by N.E. for a 4th rounder, the ransom for Roy was ridiculous. The situations were somewhat different but not THAT big of a disparity.

Of course they thought he would be really good but he was NEVER EVER going to get targeted like Owens and Witten in the Cowboys offense. That made at him at best the third target for the pass offense. Roy should have been able to obtain 2nd target status but has failed to do so. Miles had a little bit of an advantage over Roy being in the same offense for 4 years and to his credit, took advantage of it. I believe it was more than 5% because I don’t believe that if Roy had gone to Penn State or Michigan, that Jerry would have traded picks 1 and 3 and swapped a 6th for Roy. I wouldn’t trade a 1st 3rd and a 6th for Larry Fitzgerald and he is great.

by jevans1729 on Jan 26, 2010 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

If you are right about this, that Jerry gave up ore draft picks than he otherwise would have, thant that is reason #478 why Jerry needs to hire a General Manager

because that is idiotic from a football perspective

For the record, I would trade a 1st, 3rd and 6th for Fitz

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Jan 26, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

You are right that

from a football perspective it makes no sense. If you think about it gets worse because Roy would have been a FA at the end of the 2008 season and we wouldn’t have had to trade any picks. That is why I’m saying it had to be a business decision. He knew Roy wouldn’t be a major target in the offense, not with Witten and Owens on the team. So why else do you do it? I know Jerry can be a little quirky but you don’t get that rich being a downright fool. Roy’s stats in Detroit surely didn’t warrant that type of compensation especially if Randy Moss’ deserve a fourth rounder. So what else is there?

by jevans1729 on Jan 26, 2010 3:35 PM CST reply actions  

True dat

2 weeks before the SB this year.

Drago says, "We must break you!"

by APerfectStar on Jan 26, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

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