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The VRR: CBA's "Final League Year" Could Help the Dallas Cowboys

For every NFL team, the offseason is all about change. Some teams, like the Redskins and Browns began their offseasons while the '09 season was still being played. Others, such as the Superbowl participanting Colts and Saints, are reaping the rewards of their successful '09 offseasons. 

For a team like the Cowboys, ultimate success was just a few games away. They know what strengths they can build upon and what weaknesses they need to address.

With the majority of the coaching staff returning, management can focus their efforts on personnel. Being Senior Bowl week, draft prospects are at the forefront of many NFL minds. With the Pro Bowl practices concurrently taking place, those all-star veterans expected to be free agents may be drawing the peripheral eye of Coach Phillips and staff.

A little personnel tweaking at a few key positions could be all this Dallas team needs next season to get where the Colts and Saints are today. Fortunately, the Collective Bargaining Agreement's "Final League Year" seems to have come at a perfect time for the Cowboys.

Any salary cap casualties this offseason? Huh? What salary cap?

Last year, it was Terrell Owens and Adam "Pacman" Jones. This season, the Cowboys could have another big name or two on the waiver wire. If it is an uncapped year, as expected, teams won’t be charged prorated bonus money when they cut a player.

Terence Newman, Ken Hamlin, Marion Barber and Flozell Adams all have big-money contracts the Cowboys could get rid of without penalty. The question is: Who would replace them?

More VRR after the jump.

Star-divide

Tim MacMahon says that moving on from Marion Barber "makes sense".

This isn't about bashing Barber, whose production has dropped drastically since he signed a seven-year, $45 million deal and became the Cowboys' starter. If it was, we'd point out that he's injury prone and disturbingly ineffective in short-yardage situations for a back whose game is based on power.

The Cowboys would be foolish not to make Felix Jones the lead horse in 2010. Choice is more than capable of serving as a complementary back, and unlike Barber, he'd fill that role at a reasonable price. The Cowboys can draft another back in the middle rounds to play special teams and back up Jones and Choice.

MacMahon also thinks that Ken Hamlin is another guy the Cowboys can replace.

Is it worth $4.5 million to keep Hamlin on the team? Hamlin hasn’t been bad the last two seasons, but he certainly hasn’t been an impact player. He has one interception since getting his big contract. Owner/general manager Jerry Jones cited the lack of plays made by the safeties as one of his primary concerns in the middle of the season.

There were some within the organization that wanted Ball to keep the starting job after Hamlin recovered from a high ankle sprain. However, it’s not Wade Phillips’ style to take a veteran’s job away after an injury, plus Phillips values Hamlin’s communication ability. With the way the defense peaked at the end of the season, you can’t criticize Phillips’ decision to start Hamlin.

Jerry Jones indicated that Doug Free could be a starter next year.

"I wouldn't want to buy into the way you said it," Jones told a reporter. "But I would say he's shown me enough to know that he can be a starter in the NFL. That's the best way to say it as opposed to taking somebody's (spot)."

(Flozell) Adams has four years remaining on a six-year $43 million extension signed before the 2008 season, while Colombo has three years left on a four-year, $22 million deal. As for whether Free projects better as a right or left tackle?

"Either one," Jones said.

In the past, Tom Ciskowski and the Cowboys have had success finding "hidden gems" at the Senior Bowl.

This will be Tom Ciskowski's third draft as scouting director. His late-rounds production has been good and could get better.

In two years, the Cowboys have pulled three serviceable players out of the Senior Bowl: Choice, pushing for more time at running back; Phillips, who could replace Martellus Bennett as the No. 2 tight end next season; and safety Michael Hamlin. Choice was the highest pick, in the fourth round.

The Senior Bowl serves as a talent laboratory. Ciskowski and his staff returned to the Cowboys complex in December and submitted grades on draft-worthy players. Performances in the Senior Bowl practices and game offer can confirm or knock down those grades.

Dolphins QB coach, David Lee, has been working with Tim Tebow at the Senior Bowl. As an assistant with the Cowboys, Lee was instrumental in teaching Tony Romo how to improve his mechanics.

In 2003, Lee encountered an undrafted rookie from Eastern Illinois with uncanny footwork, but a highly questionable delivery. Bill Parcells took one look at Tony Romo's delivery and informed Lee, an offensive assistant at the time, that all of his passes would be batted down.

Lee was hesitant to completely overhaul a three-quarter delivery that had served Romo well since middle school, but the young quarterback begged him to make the changes. Lee helped Romo change his release point, making it much higher.

In the summer of '03, Romo would call Lee's house at 9 p.m. and ask the coach to meet him up at the practice facility to play catch. Those sessions helped form the foundation for Romo's shocking rise to fame in 2006.

Dat Nguyen spoke about why he opted out of signing a contract extension with the Cowboys. Whether he returns to Texas A&M remains to be determined.

"I want to grow as a coach," Nguyen told the San Antonio Express-News. "I want to be more hands-on, and be more accountable to players. "I didn't think I'd have the chance to grow like I had envisioned as a young coach. They offered me an extension. I just didn't see where staying with the Cowboys was going to help me accomplish what I want to accomplish."

Coming back to his old school might do just that.

"I definitely want to be in coaching; it's a part of my life," Nguyen said. "I want to make differences in kids' lives."

Matt Mosely's All-Beast Team is full of Cowboys. One surprising pick is Dallas left guard Kyle Kosier.

Here's my upset special. I realize that Leonard Davis is headed to the Pro Bowl, but the scouts I've talked to said that Kosier had the better season. He did a really nice job pulling and working in space. He didn't hold up well against the Williams Wall, but you can say that about a lot of players.

DC.com goes back in time to describe how the Dallas Cowboys franchise came to life 50 years ago.

Everson Walls holds the Pro Bowl record for career interceptions in the all-star game. With Mike Jenkins just beginning what looks to be a promising career, perhaps he will start chipping away at that record. Here is the list of all the Pro Bowl records.

After the Pro Bowl, DeMarcus Ware will have surgery to shave down a bone spur on his left foot.

Ware is competing against Drew Brees and Mark Sanchez in the Pepsi Refresh Project. The winner receives a $100,000 grant towards the charity of his choice.

Ware will compete for Jonathan's Place, a Dallas emergency shelter for abused, abandoned and neglected children.

"I want to help provide a safe environment for abused, abandoned and neglected children by supporting Jonathan's Place," Ware said in a statement. "With your help we can improve their lives with better medical care, counseling, clothing, food and shelter."

View Ware's video and vote for him here on NFL.com's Pepsi Refresh Project page.

The final report from the National Institute of Standards and Technology on the Cowboys practice facility collapse was released.

The NIST reported the structure collapsed under wind loads significantly less than those required under applicable design standards. The group recommended that other fabric-covered frame structures be evaluated for safety.

The Blue Star Blog has a cool slideshow of The Season That Was.

Free Reign released their debut album. Rock on!

"Five songs, and it's pretty heavy," Colombo says, putting it mildly. "There are a couple of lighter songs too, but the album is named after one of our harder songs 'Tragedy,' and that's going to be our second single. That's kind of our song that we spent the most time on in the studio, because we felt it had the most chance to get radio play, and it's done pretty well so far. We have a song on there called 'Rise Up,' which is kind of an anthem-type song, and it's been played at the stadium when we're stretching and stuff before games."

Colombo and Cory Procter are getting around in the world of rock. Both players are featured here in this Drowning Pool music video.

The "Manster", Randy White, talks Cowboys with Fox Sports Southwest in this video interview.

Jim Jeffcoat's son, Jackson, has made his decision. He will play for the University of Texas. Woohoo!

The 6'5", 225-pound defensive end rated as the second-best prospect by ESPNU. As a senior, he made 68 and a half tackles, eight and a half sacks and had two interceptions, one of which he returned for a touchdown.

For his efforts, he was named his district's defensive player of the year and was named to the Class 5A All-State first team.

The University of Houston hired former Dallas defensive coordinator Brian Stewart to take over its defense.

Stadiumjourney.com released its rankings of the NFL's best stadiums for 2009. Guess I could've given Cowboys Stadium another half point or so. Darn it!

Below, Jerry Jones discusses what he's learned from this past season, looks forward to events at Cowboys Stadium, and debates a bit about whether Manny Pacquiao would be a better fit as a slot receiver or safety.

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Roy Williams!!!! AHEM!!!!

He needs to be cut.

By the way WR Marcus Easley and OT Jared Veldheer are playing in the Texas vs. the nation game next week. Can’t wait to see how those two do.

2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it

by quincyyyyy on Jan 29, 2010 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

ooooo

and FS/SS Jordan Lake and DT Jay Ross will be playing in that game also.

2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it

by quincyyyyy on Jan 29, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh, yeah.

mentioning all those guys and not Williams is weird.

No Cap hit? I’d like to see the guy get another year, but seriously, if he can be cut w/ no loss, go for it.
Barber too. I was pounded at the time, because he’s so popular, for criticizing that contract. But it was obvious his shelf life was going to be short-he apparently looks in the mirror and sees a 250-lb. running back. Easiest position in the NFL to replace, as Dallas has proven twice in the 4th round lately.

No way I’d cut Flo, he’s still better than 90% of the left tackles in the league, and Hamlin, well, after all these years suffering at safety I’d sure feel better knowing who was going to be back there.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jan 29, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy Has No Cap Hit . . . but

Jones still owes him a boat load of cash in terms of guaranteed contract payouts.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 6:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm confused on that as opposed to what this article says

My feeling is, if he could be cut w/no huge amounts of money being owed, I go for it.
If he’s guarenteed money, WTH, keep him, at least until camp-at that point he’ll have to prove himself.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Jan 30, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

man as much as I hate it, I think we got to give RW another year

he was a good WR in Detroit, it is almost a little strange that he can not fit in here as a #2/possession receiver. If we got rid of him and he turned things around (even mediocre) we would just make the trade an even larger travesty

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I think is where I stand as well

No rush dumping him and WRs are very seldom able to contribute in year one…

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Jan 30, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

By that I mean

no one should count on a rookie out performing RW.

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Jan 30, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

If Dallas drafts a rookie WR in the early rounds

and can’t out perform what we’ve seen out of RW so far, that draft pick is a bust.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If we draft a rookie it will be to compete with Ogletree for the #3...

He would also be the PR. He wouldnt be a replacement for RW….maybe Ogletree or another will be RW’s replacement the year after.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

If Dallas drafts a WR the first day

I would think he would be expected to compete for a starting job. If one is taken in the later rounds then I agree with you.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

nah, not really....late first early second...its not like we are paying him top ten money...

Speed kills…look what Indy and NO have from the 1 to 4 WR positions.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

If RW keeps under performing at WR

I don’t see him starting next year. At sometime Jerry has to cut bait for the good of the team. A #1 or #2 would be expected to play IMO.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with all of that.

I don’t mind if Roy stays, but they have to have the WR position an open competition.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Most rookie WRs struggle in their first season

so I wouldn’t necessarily call anyone who performed like RW a bust as rookie .

FREE THE OGLETREE!!!

by dunkman on Jan 30, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that trend is changing....look at all the first year players that were productive...

Macklin, Desean Jackson last year….Collie, Garcion, Johnny Knox…etc…Rookies have shown they can start.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 31, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I would have no problem with cutting Hamlin and letting Ball start. Let the other Michael Hamlin come up as a reserve. Also cutting Adams wouldn’t be that bad of a deal. Let Free start and our line gets younger.

by jack dein on Jan 29, 2010 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

Cut Flo Sure

But we need an infusion of talent into the line. There is no one behind Free and Colombo at the tackle spots. Who is the swing guard and the back up center? Yuk; Dallas has been hanging by a thread at oline for years now and it has cost this team at critical times. Least valuable unit against Vikings? Oline. I say we need a veteran LT; and draft a LT in round one. Cut Flo. Let Free challenge Colombo. Find a veteran center to challenge Guorde and let Gurode become the swing guard and backup center.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Donald Penn from Tampa Bay at LT

It would take a trade but Penn is at contract loggerheads with his team. Not sure about center but look what the Vikings did with Birk last year. The Ravens snagged a veteran Pro Bowl player for about 12 million over 4 years, six guranteed. The Ravens in turn let their center go to the Rams for much higher money.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

UNCAPPED YEAR

Cut Flo? WHY? He produces, RW is another story. But now we’re talking about cutting a guy who played good, make that better than good, ALL SEASON, & you want to CUT HIM. Gurode is our Pro-Bowl Center and we’re just gonna move him. Veterans? Veterans? This year of all years is not the year to be talking about signing a multitude of guys in FA. That’s not happening this year, hence the UNCAPPED YEAR. Why in the hell are we talking about cutting guys on the biggest position of need, OL, & a damn starter at that. If guys hit the market that we can sign for around 3 mil I’m down, but don’t just go cutting to cut people, especially not FLOZELL ADAMS

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Flozell is not going anywhere next season

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

He Better Not

We don’t have the reserves to be just cutting anyone that starts on our Oline. I figured Free showed us how valuable having a GOOD backup is. This is non sense

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

For whatever reason people are down on Flozell....

when in reality he had a pretty good year. His false starts were way down. Sure he got beat at times, but every one does. I understand we need to find his replacement, but it’s not going to be a rookie selected with the 27th pick in the draft. Not on a team that wants to win next year. Ive been reading alot of the scouting reports on alot of the lineman going around when we pick and none of them are projected to be immediate starting left tackles in the NFL. All seem to be at least a year away from that type of role. Unless Jerry trades for a veteran LT Flozell will be the starter next season.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Many like OL Mike Iupati, but is projected to be a guard in the NFL or RT..not LT

Keep in mind Brewster maybe be the future LG of this team.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

He's Versatile Though

From what I’ve read, the dude can play just about anywhere. LT is probably out of the question, but every other position he supposedly can play

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

There's more tackles than gurads

It seems like the tackle crop is better than the interiors

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

There are alot of tackles at the college level that are projected to be guards in the NFL

happens all the time. ie., Brewster. The best of the tackles will be taken well before we pick.

Trent Williams will be anywhere from 12 to 17. He played mainly at RT, but his senior year he played some LT, but was inconsistant. He looks like he maybe a RT also at the NFL level or at least need a couple of years of work before attempting to play LT at the pro level.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with all of that and I wanted him resigned 2 years ago. I also dont want to see him cut

but I want his replacement early and give his replacement every opportunity to beat Flo out. Flo skills seem to be declining before our eyes. I reall dont want to make a legitimate SB run and have our LT break down again in the playoffs.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Jan 30, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless Jerry trades for a veteran LT

Count on it . . . we gotta upgrade the line . . . it is the overwhelming weak spot on the team and this has been true for years.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

"this has been true for years"

Flozell has not been an overwhelming weak spot on the team for years.

He has been on a decline but he played decent last year and I think that they definitly need to start looking to the future but the left tackle spot hasn’t been horrible for years.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Ball cannot replace Hamlin...

and there is nobody on the roster that can replace Hamlin right now. Did you notice how much better the D played with Hamlin lining up the secondary correctly? Toward the end of the year, those third and longs weren’t getting converted; the secondary played alot better. Keep Hamlin, draft a replacement, or find one in free agency. Unless Ball gets better; it’s going to be Hamlin. Maybe the other Hamlin can push him.

by beautifultyrant on Jan 30, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Communication can be taught

He can pick that up in training camp. If we were mid-season I would agree, but Ball’s got all offseason to learn the scheme to a point where he is ordering everybody around out there. We have the depth at S to cut him, & having Sensi be that coverage safety we needed ever so badly I think we are in a little bit better position than we have been back there.

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Flo played that poorly this year

But I do understand he has a massive contract and it would save a great deal of money if we cut him. RT could be an issue, if the Minnesota game is any indicator. I understand we get frustrated with Flo, seeing his decline and whatnot, but the guy can still get the job done. I’d almost rather see Free at RT, keep Flo at LT and draft somebody to groom behind him.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jan 29, 2010 10:33 PM CST reply actions  

Flo is Old and Hobbled.

He can’t take a full season and he is vulnerable against the speed rushers. Time to move on from the Hotel.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 6:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Move where??

I understand your feeling for Flo. His never ending false starts and holding penalties at the wrong time have probably pushed you over the edge a while back, but really who do we replace him with. It’s not like very good (PB) LT are a dime a dosen. Remember we have tried finding the dime store LT in the 3rd and 4th rounds with no sucess. Don’t tell me Free can play LT because he has not proven anything at that position. I think we will see Free playing RT next year, but not LT.

Now don’t get me wrong I still want Dallas to Draft his replecement this year. Dallas should take the best available LT either in the 1st or 2nd round. I would prefer a player who can play Center/Guard in the 1st round and a LT in the second. If you read some of quincyyyyy FanPost you will see there have been and will continue to be good LT in that round. But who ever comes in needs to win the job from Flo and not have it just be given to them.

In other words no way I release Flo.

Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!

by I'm a Cowboy on Jan 30, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed re: Flo

Flozell was one of the best run blocking left tackles in the game last year. Problem was he gave up a lot of pressures, hits and sacks in the passing game. Flozell had a couple of real stinkers. Green Bay was by far his worst game, followed by Denver and Minnesota. However, if you ex out those games, he had a pretty good season. I wouldn’t call it pro-bowl, but better than any veteran LT we could get in free agency for sure. Having said that, Flo is getting older and Hudson Houck needs to figure out why Flozell struggled in those games and try to game plan against that. Remember, he played quite well against other very good defensive lineman against PHI, NYG, ATL & SD.

by BVandy on Jan 30, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Veteran LT by Trade, Not Free Agency

Dallas is positioned to make a trade. Look what Phlly did at LT. We have trade bait on the dline (Hatcher, Bowen) . . . at ILB (Carpenter) . . . at TE (Bennett) . . . at WR (Ogletree, Hurd, Crayton) . . . at RB (MBIII, Choice) and of course a full compliment of draft picks. The Vikings exposed Dallas . . . do we simply sit tight and tweak the oline or do we try to rebuild it immediately?

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Barbie Carpenter is NOT Trade Bait

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, Vikings exposed our weakness on the O line

But it was Columbo getting abused. Flo, and even Free for the most part, held their own at LT.

We DO need to upgrade the O-line, and I think Free can do just that at RT. Flo is getting old and doesn’t have too many seasons left in the tank, but I think he can play at a pretty high level next year. We absolutely need to draft somebody to eventually replace Flo, but no rookie will do that immediately. I don’t think we can afford to give what it takes in either picks or players to get a LT better/younger than Flo.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Jan 30, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, but I would add...

I think Colombo simply hadn’t fully healed from his broken leg. He played pretty well until his injury and played lousy in his return games against Philly and Minnesota. He gave almost as many sacks, hits and pressures in those 2 games than he gave up all season (1 sack, 4 QB hits and 13 pressures in 9 games vs 3 sacks, 3 hits and 10 pressures in the last 2 games)

by BVandy on Jan 30, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

That was an unlikely scenario...

where Peters wanted desperately out of Buffalo. Left tackles are typically a coveted commodity and he was holding out of camp to renegotiate his contract. The Bills were stupid enough not to accomodate. Further, the Eagles gave up 3 draft picks, including a 1st and a 4th last year, as well as a 6th rounder this year. While the compensation was certainly worth taking a pro bowler, the likelihood of picking up a left tackle of that quality is remote. Which left tackle would you suggest could replace and outperform Flozell? He wasn’t the problem with the line in the Minnesota game. While he has his lapses (as do all offensive linemen), Kosier, who played great for the first 3/4 of the season, looked like he was breaking down toward the end of the season, including awful games against Oakland and Washington, and especially Philly and Minnesota.

by BVandy on Jan 30, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Cutting Flo would be a mistake...

He still has something left in the tank. Free and Flo should start next year. Draft a tackle and a guard to groom. When Flo leaves, Free will take over at LT and hopefully by then the cowboys would have groomed a RT and Davis’ replacement. I don’t know why Davis made the Pro Bowl.

by beautifultyrant on Jan 30, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude GET OFF IT

Flo ain’t going anywhere. He’s not half as bad as you seem to think he is. He struggled in 3 games this year, & just to let you know LTs don’t grow on trees. Look at what Philly is paying that scrub from Arkansas. Flo was a 6 year 43 mil, Jason Peters was 6 yr 60 mil. Flo is worth paying a little less than premiere left tackles. Peters isn’t even that good, Buffalo didn’t think so either. So PLEASE stop talking about bad he is, there are other problems on this team.

HE WASN’T THE ONE GETTING BURNT OFF THE EDGE IN THE MINNESOTA GAME. HE WAS SHUTTING DOWN JARED ALLEN. WATCH THE GAMES

"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

+1 preach it brother...

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think that Flo has to be replaced right away...

but I’m not again drafting a potential left tackle for the future.

The reality is that he does struggle against speed rusher and he’s got maybe 2 years left in him. He wasn’t horrible this year, in fact I thought he had a decent year, but he has definitly showed a decline in his play.

But releasing Flozell would be suicide, that would be putting complete faith in Free or a rookie, and while it could work out I don’t think you put your franchise QB in that position.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

he wasnt horrible...

yeah he struggled against Dumervil, alot of LT’s did. He struggled early on then picked up the last half of the season. All tackles get beat. He does struggle with the speed guys I agree, but for the most part his play was solid, especially against the players he faces in our division.

He was doing a good job against Jared Allen before getting injured we forget.

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Jan 30, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

We're on the same page...

I know he wasn’t horrible, but at some point Dallas does have to get some guys to groom or this will be a constant conversation every year.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Of Course You Wouldn't Cut Flo

Without a player to take his place. And I am not talking draft. I would like to see Dallas trade for a veteran . . . and draft a LT as well; Free could challenge at RT then.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

How many veteran LT's are traded?

Peters was because of a contract situation but that happens very few times.

You don’t trade good LT’s because they are so hard to find.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Viking Game?

You are talking about Flo – the Viking game – the guy who took himself out because of a thigh bruise? This makes your point? Jared Allen was blocked – when he was – with help from backs and TEs. Flo is old and hobbled; he is below par and incapable of holding down a championship line.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I love guys who attack certain players...

and while there is a bit of truth to them they nag on little things and then start throwing in garbage on top of that to overexaggerate.

“Jared Allen was blocked – when he was – with help from backs and TEs.” Him and every other LT that goes up against Allen.

Flozell isn’t as good as he was but he isn’t as bad as your making him out to be.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

ummm

I’d cut RW before Hamlin or Flo or Newman.

Hamlin is still pretty irreplacable imo. If we draft a safety high, then maybe but I don’t like the idea of going into the year with ball as the starter.

And cutting Flo would be a HUUUUGE mistake. As of right now we have 6 capable olineman, why reduce it to 5? Flo is still an average LT, hes dominant some games and severely struggles in others.

Even thinking about cutting Newman is crazy. The guy played close to his contract last season, despite a few memorable plays he gave up.

Barber? that should be considered. The main advantage to having Barber is that he is (was) an amazing short yardage/red zone back. He has not been that way the last two years. Between the 20s, he provides no advantage over Felix or Choice. He can take over games when we have leads in the fourth, but I’m not convinced a guy like choice can’t do the same.

by foyesboys on Jan 30, 2010 3:30 AM CST reply actions  

poor barber he is a good dude

but it is true, his usefulness is waning

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 4:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the problem is the way that they are using him.

They need to reshuffle the current work load. Ignoring their contracts, Jones should be the starter, Barber the 3rd down and short yardage back, and Choice the backup for both roles. Barber is an animal as a pass blocker, is highly effective on dump off passes on 3rd and long, and not being the starter would save wear and tear on him over the season (and his career). That’s the role that earned him the big contract, so why not put our aces in their places?

by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 30, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I think our short yardage woes with Barber this season was more on the O line. The guy is a good 3rd down back, and I’m actually a bit shocked they went with Choice on 3rd downs this year.

Sadly, Barber is the one of the more replaceable players on our roster. Jones and Choice can both get it done, and Barber’s contract is a bit much for a guy who’s most effective on 3rd downs and short yardage/goal line situations. It’s probably a move worth considering.

That said, the guy can still be a monster, but his contract is huge and probably a bit more than he’s worth.

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by the red scare on Jan 30, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy Williams Is Useless

Dallas needs a speed WR to line up next to Austin. I would think about Bennett’s role as well. If Phillips can play at FB, then cut Bennett and try to find two TE replacements. We need one that can attack the endzone.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 6:42 AM CST up reply actions  

dude you want sweeping changes

this team was not 5 and 10, i think this team needs tweeking not gross changes

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes I Do Want Change

Call it sweeping or call it being realistic . . . but Dallas is not nearly as good as advertised in the euphoria of winning a playoff game. The oline has no depth and Flo is nearing the end. We need speed at WR and physicality up the middle of the defense. Was the Viking game a fluke because Colombo was hobbled? My view is that you have to make significant improvement year to year just to stay even. The oline needs an infusion and a big time infusion now, before Romo’s window closes.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Two TEs?

Tight ends can be had in the middle of the draft . . . look at Bo Scaife drafted by Tenn in round six I think — knucklehead Martellus can’t hold this Bo’s jock. Bo has speed and is physical. Dallas is woefully thin at TE considering Bennett’s lack of mental ability to play the game. What if Dallas were to lose Witten for an extended period?

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Scaife?

You’re kidding, right? Talk about busts. I’m not defending lunkhead Bennett, but you certainly could have come up with a much better example.

by Road Warrior on Jan 31, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

If Bo Is A Bust, why did

the Titans place their franchise tag on him? For 2009, Scaife signed the franchise tag tender, worth $4.46 million. Better example is on the Cowboys, . . . Phillips . . . point is that if we are going have a second round TE, he should be producing . . . and you can find TE talent other than at the top of the draft.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 31, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Bennett might be a bust but if he does start getting it his potential is too the roof.

I’m a huge Scaife fan but Scaife isn’t in the same spectrum as Bennett in physical skills.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 31, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude, why did the Bengals place the franchise tag on

their field goal kicker? Who knows why teams do what they do.

Sorry, but he doesn’t impress me. I had much higher hopes for him when he burst on the scene and he’s sadly disappointed.

However, I do agree that you can find a TE later in the draft.

by Road Warrior on Jan 31, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Romo's window wont close for another 8 years

the dude has above average mobility and QBs are playing into their 40’s now. 40 year old QBs will only happen more often from here forward. We need patience as well or else we may have a bad team on our hands in a few more years.

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Romo's Window is Now

Maybe it stays open for 8 years, but the point is Dallas can win now but its oline is woefully inadequate to support a championship team. Remember 2008? Romo was brutalized routinely. Remember the Vikings loss? Blame the oline. Something must be done and does not involve drafting a project at guard.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah but you are talking about replacing...

more than half the Oline, a WR, a TE, and whatever you feel also needs to be done on D. that is a lot of turnover for a decent team. i think they need to pick their spots and make sure what they get is an upgrade. IMO we do not have to tamper with TE. RB and WR should only be changed if we can get value in a trade. As far as Oline, insert Free somewhere and draft someone but don’t get rid of either colombo or flo unless there are some solid picks coming in return. otherwise they are great backups at worst. flo can backup guard as well. Gurode and koiser needs competition but we don’t need to be in a hurry to replace them. some of the backups are very expendable, that is where the turnover needs to be IMO

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

They were

one of the last 8 teams left in the NFL before getting knocked out, which doesn’t call for drastic changes.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Yet we should overhaul the line, & trade Carpenter, Hatcher, Bowen, Ogletree, Hurd, Crayton, Bennett, MBIII, & Choice

HELL YEA! WHOLE NEW TEAM NEXT YEAR

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-The Ed Reed

by devendra on Jan 30, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

put some new parts on the car, but don’t change out the entire engine.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 30, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha amen

We’ve got a hell of a team that needs minor adjustments. Look at what we did last year. The changes made weren’t huge overhauls. A few changes here and there. We went from a team that failed(miserably) to make the playoffs to a team that went 11-5, won the NFC East, and won a play off game by beating the Eagles(who are still an excellent football team) THREE times.

O line needs tweaking, might need to look at a new FS, and Roy’s underachieving needs to stop. That’s about it, imho.

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by the red scare on Jan 30, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Cutting Barber

Difficult decision. Felix remained relatively healthy last season, but does not have a good track record there. Felix goes down, Choice steps up, and then who is behind him? With that said, Barber is overpaid. I, however, imagine Barber as a guy who would renegotiate his contract for the good of the team, if the Cowboys show him loyalty.

by sactown on Jan 30, 2010 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

without a cap, how would renegotiating his contract benefit the team?

I think telling him to take a pay cut would be an insult to his pride, and after Jerry questioned his toughness last year, I could see Barber saying F@#K this and going elsewhere

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by Seanrude on Jan 30, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

he is not too expensive since most his bounus money has been paid

keep him if he is fine with a smaller role, otherwise lets hope he has some value on the market

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm tellin' ya'

Barber wasn’t the same after he crumbled to the ground in that first Giants game. The problem I see is the dude doesn’t want to sit. Tough. The coaching staff have to make him sit when he’s injured.

I still believe he has all the tools to be a fine running back.

by Road Warrior on Jan 31, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be too hasty to get rid of Barber..

He played with a bum knee all season and he’ll be back..You need some O-line help..and if I were to get rid of anybody it would be Williams..He just hasn’t paid off since being acquired..There’s plenty of good offensive linemen in the draft this year..and I wouldn’t mess around with your defense..Everything but the O-Line looks pretty damn good to me.

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by Bobbiblue on Jan 30, 2010 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Barber had a torn quad.

But your point is correct. It would break my heart to see Barber playing well for somebody else. Also, people complain about Barbers health, but it’s not like Felix has been the picture of health himself. I agree with everyone that Felix should get most of the carries, but Barber definitely has a place on this team.

by DoomsdayD75 on Jan 30, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh..I thought they advertised it as a sore knee but you know better than I..

I just don’t think that guy is done yet..and it would be a big mistake getting rid of him..Actually if it was his Quad and not his knee I rest my case..he’ll be back stronger than ever.

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by Bobbiblue on Jan 30, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

For real. Don’t give up n guys so easy. I can see him bouncing back bigtime. He’s a hard worker and will do everything he can to get better in the offseason.

"On a journey to anywhere you can draw your own map."

by saidseven on Jan 30, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

I’m fine with Felix taking a bigger portion of snaps next season, and try to use Choice a little more too. MB3 is still a great power back when healthy. They just need to try to keep him fresher for late in the season by reducing the punishment his body takes.

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by APerfectStar on Jan 30, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Info Aaron

Most on the site want new blood at Oline and Safety . I would like to see C/G and LT early in the draft. A safety would also be in the mix. If one of these were available in free agency it would make the drafting easier. As far a who to cut . Before cutting anyone naturally trade possibilites should be explored. Roy Williams would be top on this list . Others might be Bennett who should have value and maybe Sam Hurd. Keep Kosier, Flo and Gurode, but spell them more with the newer guys when possible to keep them fresher. Let Barber get healthy and get him back to his closing job. He makes big money, but as was mentioned earlier he’s a good guy and I think he would restructure.
   Last but not least. Leave Tnew alone. Hearing Jenkins talk about how TNew worked with him and Scandrick along with his own play tells me we still have value here. Draft a corner later if you want, let TNew work with them.

by oldboysfan on Jan 30, 2010 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

I agree for the most part.

Lesser contributers with value might get players or draft picks to address greater team needs. Bennett showed abilities in 2008 and yet appear to regress in 2009. Maybe he was reading his own press clippings, but Phillips showed to be the more reliable player in 2009. A trade could get the draft choice to get the elite Lt to sure up that side going forward. Hurd has shown abilities, but not a major element in the offense. Once again there may be interest by other teams. Roy has not done much and Jerry will have to probably eat the deal. But if another team believes its just a chemistry thing and Roy is willing to take a trade and adjust the rest of the deal, Jerry might get something out of a real bad situation. Draft choices could continue the idea of addition by subtration.

by oldboysfan on Jan 30, 2010 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

I think Newman has trade value.

Although I think Dallas should keep him, a team can’t have enough good CBs.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Never Trade a Good Corner

If anything Dallas needs to find another corner

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right Wolf

Newman has value. If he has the ability to also help mentor the new CBs and play we want him for as long as he can go.

by oldboysfan on Jan 30, 2010 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

CUT?

1) yes, we can cut Flo Adams, he is excellent run blocker, but pass blocking and penalties are big issues…Dough Free is solid tackle, he showed, he can ran 30 yds downfield to make a block and, he can stop speed rushers, yes, this players are most dangerous players for Romo…
we can also draft another OT in Draft, and we are having Brewster too

2) barber could be trade bait I think, we can get 4th round pick or 3rd round pick either
If we cant draft him, lets go cut him, I want Choice as a starter and Felix for switch

3) hammlin is lacking big plays, we need someone with ball hawk skill on this position…just look on other defenses, and what can do the team with safeties, or how can struggle without them….I think the top player on the FS position can do huge difference…just look on Phillips, FS Giants, with him, they were playing pretty good first games of the season….so despite Hammlin is QB of secondary, we should really trade him or cut him…but only in case, we are going to draft safety in 1st round….

4)Newman? no way we can cut him…..Scandrick is not ready to play CB no. 2… yes, Newman is in decline, but first, we need to draft another corner this year in draft, then let him get some snaps and after year he can begun to play as starter on postion of nickel corner or CB 2…we cant hope , that we will draft corner who is ready to play….so despite newmans decline, he definitly must stay another season…and then he can go…

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by orli on Jan 30, 2010 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

I don't think Newman is in decline at all

Newman is in the plataeu of his career and playing really well. This year really has to be considered among his 3 best. He’s flat lined for 3 years as a guy on edge of the probowl, making a few

by AustonianAggie on Jan 30, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Hm, Newman,

I have watched him, and corners all season long, and, he made some mistakes, that cost us games, Marshall TD vs Denver, or poor play againts Manningham or Steve Smith againts Giants…he is solid player on his position, but he began to struggle on especially 3rd downs, and as he lost the step, he is more and more times overrun by WR….no way he is playing so well as two or one season ago…so he is in decline, it is not so bad decline, that we need to cut him, but we must prepare, that next season or after 2 seasons, he began to struggle more often…and what is I think biggest Wade problem, he isnt preparing for potentional problems…he should really draft another corner in 2nd or 3rd round….

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by orli on Jan 30, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely Must Prepare for Newman's Decline

Agree with this . . . I expect Newman to survive for a few more years at least — but you can’t have too many corners. Scandrick was a great mid round pick for us a few years ago; more like him would be what we need at corner.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

T-New didn't cost Dallas any games

The CB’s played well all season except for the 1st NYG game when they all got whipped.

I still say Newman had perfect coverage on Marshall in that DEN game, but Marshall just made a great play.

But I do agree with your view on the depth of the secondary, especially CB. When Hamlin went down and Ball needed to play FS, they had nobody behind Scandrick.

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by APerfectStar on Jan 30, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not sure about TNewman

but I remember the old Cowboys under Tom and the gang almost always having a challenger to any starter, even at QB. Landry used to talk about competition making players better. Jerry by his contracts and his GM style is prone to awarding a tenured position to players after short bursts of productivity; remember the Crayton contract in mid-season? Or Hamlin, or MBIII . . . I think this is how Dallas could fix its oline by bringing in talent laterally and by high draft picks to challenge starters.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 31, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

See, we do speak the same language....

I’m well versed in Landry. Heck, who switches QB’s at random during a game? (O.K. that experiment didn’t work out so well).

True, Jerry whipped out his checkbook quicker than… well… never mind. One thing about him though, he’s seemed to have learned from his mistakes…. e.g. two1st’s for Joey Galloway, firing coaches too quickly, thinking Quincy was our savior, signing players for one good year (Ken Hamlin)… etc.

And once again, I’ll agree. Use the draft for our O-line, but our history the past 20 years in that department isn’t that great.

by Road Warrior on Jan 31, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and one last thing about TNew.

I’ve been all over this guy… both good and bad.

But I went to the home Falcons game… sitting in the mezzanine section. And when he laid out Roddy White, you could hear it echo. That will be a play I’ll never forget. In fact, even tho I saw the #41 jersey, I looked to my buddy next to me and asked ’who’s wearing TNew’s jersey?’

To me, with Jenkins improved play came better play from TNew. Not sure why, but it did seem that way.

by Road Warrior on Jan 31, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

We dont need to draft a CB that early this year. Next year we need to probably look for a CB early.

Newman is fine for 2 more years and maybe more if he stays healthy.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 1, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree On Newman

He ain’t All Pro but he is solid . . . the kind of player you will notice more when he is gone.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

yes he is solid

and as you wrote, after 2 season I bet, he wouldnt…

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by orli on Jan 30, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

T-New looked as good as ever this past season.

I think the decline criticism is unwarranted. The guy will be 32 at the beginning of next season. If he can remain healthy, the Cowboys should be set at starting CB for another 3 seasons.

Ball is decent, but I’d like to see some better depth.

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by APerfectStar on Jan 30, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

probably not this year, but next I would like to see a failry high draft pick on a CB...

At that point if Newman is still here he will be 34…Scandrick is the future as the 2nd CB. I like Ball, but it shouldnt stop us from drafting another good CB.

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by Boyzfan94 on Jan 31, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Barber's contract kills any chance of trading him IMO.

Choice is the RB Dallas will have to trade if a RB get traded.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 11:43 AM CST reply actions  

choice should be worth something good though

at least a high 2nd, otherwise he needs to stay

by Becho on Jan 30, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Doubt anyone would pay a two for Choice

Running backs are like fleas on dogs; they are everywhere. It seems like every team now has a two headed monster . . . but if someone offered a two for Choice – in this year’s draft – I would jump on it.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree, running backs are easy to find

compared to most other positions. Also they can come in day one and play. I would never give a running a big contract unless he’s really something special.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know if Choice will bring a #2 before the draft,

but could bring a high draft choice during the season. If someone needs a RB after a few games then they would pay for Choice. Draft choices on draft day are over valued IMO in the NFL.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

This Year's Draft Is Deep

It is a good crop and many are entering to beat the expected rookie salary cap that is almost a foregone conclusion in the new CBA. A two this year is gold.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

no way to trade choice

choice is the on of the best RB in the league in ability to run behind blockers…
yes, he hasnt good speed, but, he can be goalline back or our 3rd down back….
so cut barber, I want to have mix of 2 RB, who are together like CJ
….no 1 speed back and 3rd down back who can bring it to the house…and has big contract, or fumble more often then my dog bringing newspapers…

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by orli on Jan 30, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see Choice going anywhere,

unless someone offers something crazy for him. I also think Barber is about 80/20 chance he’ll be in the silver and blue next year.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 30, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as he didn't play as much

last year, I don’t want to lose the abilities that Choice has. He’s not a burner like Felix , but he can go inside , outside and receive out of the back field. He filled in well in 2008 when the others were injured.

by oldboysfan on Jan 30, 2010 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Love Choice

His heart is better than his talent, and that is saying something.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 30, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

agree....

Choice is one of the best RB in the league in inside runs…just cut Barber

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by orli on Jan 30, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't want to lose Barber.

I’ld like to see him healthy next year and evaluate things then.

by oldboysfan on Jan 30, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

almost forgot, ready for senior bowl? :-)

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by orli on Jan 30, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

A little off topic here.

I understand that there is differences between the players and teams about the make up of a new CBA. There are also differences between the owners about revenue sharing. Does anyone know what the main stumbling blocks are that may cause this possible lock out in 2011 ?

by oldboysfan on Jan 30, 2010 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Don’t cut anyone. Draft and hit free agency. Im sure one or 2 guys we drafted last year will step up. With some new additions we will be right there.

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by saidseven on Jan 30, 2010 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with that saidseven..

All you guys need is O-line help..and I would fix that mostly through the draft…You guys have three great running backs in Barber Jones and Choice..Barber is alot like Jacobs on our team..He needs somebody to blow open a hole so he can motor into the second and third layer of defenses..Jones and Choice are cut runners and are very good at breaking it out to the edge..Wear a defense down with a heavy dose of Barber, then hand it off to the jitter-bugs. I think that offense will scare people..Lose Williams and make Crayton a more prominent role in the receiving unit..and I would not mess around too much with that defense..I see a very dangerous team this year in Dallas…just needs a tweak here and there is all..We have alot more work to do than you guys.

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by Bobbiblue on Jan 30, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Madden Morons

are everywhere it seems. Trade for a LT. IDIOTS. THERE ARE NO LTs in the league that any team will trade that is even as good as Flo. NONE.

Cut Hamlin. Use Ball. Ball has not been much at all his whole time here. Remember when we kept giving up big plays? Hamlin cut that way down. Sure he does not make any himself but I prefer someone who PREVENTS big plays then a gambler that gives up more then he prevents looking for pics.

Cut Roy. Jerruh will not admit to a mistake yet so it will not happen. The dude has the physical talent so he gets one more year to show it.

Trade choice. The one TOTALLY RELIABLE BACK WE HAVE and a team leader to boot. Plus you won’t get much for him anyone, madden morons. Barber is wearing down, so we need to look hard at him during camp and decide.

Tnew. The play with Marshal he had excellant coverage- Marshal made a big time play. GUESS WHAT IDIOTS THAT HAPPENS. He has not lost a step- some people have very creative eyeballs. He was not as consistant this year as he has been but that does not mean he is yet in decline. And you need a wiley vet back there to help teach the younguns as Jenkins has already mentioned.

So madden morons go back to your video games and let the adults talk.

by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2010 6:59 AM CST reply actions  

Most Adults

. . . would not call others idiots and morons; me thinks you are projecting and you are the one obsessed with Madden.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 31, 2010 7:08 AM CST up reply actions  

The way he said it might have been harse..

but he’s telling the truth.

Most people who watch the NFL on a regular basis also know that you can’t just trade for a good LT very often.

Unless a situation with Jason Peters pops up, I don’t see it happening this year.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 31, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

True LTs are not available generally speaking

But then again we see franchise type players moving more than you might think; Seymore to Oakland comes to mind. Moss to Patriots. Allen to Vikings. Hutchison to Vikings. Cutler to Chicago. there are many more examples. Had Dallas recognized Flo as a problem instead of awarding him the big new contract we would be through this phase of the rebuilding project. Dallas has been stuck on stupid with its offensive line now for more than a decade; but for FAs like Kozier and Bigg and Colombo, where would we be? It is logical to presume Dallas can go fishing in veteran waters to try and shore up the weakest link on the team.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 31, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that's great...

none of them are left tackles and all of them were under special circumstances.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Jan 31, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Jason Phillips

Donald Penn; there are others that are out there. The point about Jared Allen or Hutchison is that you can secure what appears to be almost impossible to move players . . . I mean these are All Pros . . . so I am not convinced that Dallas is unable to find a younger and more physically capable LT – not to make that big a deal of it, I am just saying that the sloppy offensive line play starts with Flo. I am sick of him and the ahcielles heal that is the Dallas oline.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 31, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would Tampa trade Penn?

Find these others. Hutchinson wasn’t a trade either, he was a FA that Minnesota got using shady tactics.

Jared Allen was traded from a horrible team because they needed alot of draft picks and he had came off of a couple of DUI’s.

Who out there is under that situation?

Get off off it, they aren’t being traded.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 1, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Why Penn Might Be On Market

He is not signed; he is a RFA. A team might see a trade for players and picks in the future as better bet than paying huge money to a single player. It isn’t like Penn was an elite pick; he is a lucky find that could be a risk for a rebuilding team. One of the quickest ways for a struggling team to get better is to trade talent for future picks. Then you can bring all the talent together in a coordinated fashion. Dallas could make an attractive offer.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 1, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

If we didnt sign Flo to that contract then we use our draft picks that year on a LT. There were 8 LTs

off the board (if memory serves me) that year before we picked. Which means we dont get either Felix or Jenkins(maybe both) and either Bennett, Choice, or our 3rd round pick(packaged with our 1st rounder to move up.) Resigning Flo gave us a good LT and allowed us to pick some quality players. Flo is better than Penn next year. Hell what am I talking about, Free is better to.(dont understand your man crush on Penn)

Everyone of those trades you mention except Hutchinson came with a major character flaw and came with a good amount of risk. Allen 3DUIs, Moss(attitude) Cutler(after last season you really want him on this list) Seymore(Patriots are looking smarter and smarter on this one)
Seattle couldnt afford that that poison pill contract. Thats the only reason he got out of town. I dont want the Cowboys doing business like that.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 1, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Seymour actually played pretty good...

but they still got a good deal because they traded an aging DE for a first rounder.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 1, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Flo Might Be Good Next Year

But he is a risk injury wise; he seems to be hobbled more and more. He is the poster child for the Dallas offense that acts like the three stooges. Just imagine for a moment the poise that the Colts oline brings as Payton surveys the defense. Dallas should overhaul its oline and Flo is the starting point. Mark it down.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 1, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with that going forward. I want to draft another LT with our 1st pick and am willing to trade up a few spots.

Still, I don think Penn is the answer and more importantly dont feel he would be available. They dont need RBs and RW has no trade value.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 2, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

It is funny you bring Madden Video Games up...lol

My kids have that, and I can’t even operate the damn game controllers..but watching them play I have decided that if we could figure out how to plug them controllers in the asses of our players, we could have our kids run the team from the booth via the game controllers.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Why do we need to cut players? Do you want to save Jerry's money?

I have to say, with no salary cap, I am not the worried about saving Jerry a few dollars (even a few million…). Notions of “value” that make sense in a salary cap situation make no sense now… Who knows if we won’t be able get rid of the big contracts without penalty in future seasons? Who knows if we will ever have a salary cap again?

The only tangible reason to me to cut a player is whether they the team will be worse off with the player on board. If, for example, if Free is better are we better off with Flo off the team completely? Will Flo be a bad locker room influence if he’s not a starter next year? Are we worried about him being a “progress stopper” – who progress is he going to stop? If Free or Columbo goes down injured who steps in? Brewster? You want our season riding on the shoulders of a 3rd round reach who has yet to play a down of real NFL football?

We have a genuine shot at being a Superbowl team. If a player can help the team we should keep them on the team.

I say lets spend Jerry’s money.

"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson

by BoyfromOz on Jan 31, 2010 7:27 AM CST reply actions  

+1 Cowboy fans still have flash backs from our late 90s Cap Hell days.

We have properly managed the cap since then and are doing fine. Unfortunately we still suffer from flashbacks from time to time.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 1, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I really don't think the Cowboys need all that much..O-line upgrading would help..

and I would lose Williams..and try to do something there, but other than that I don’t see any majors needs for that team to go over the top..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 1, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

Go Read Baked Potato Soup

My plan to take the Cowboys to the SB. He lays out the holes and upgrades necessary for the Cowboys to take the next step.

by Iowacowboy on Feb 1, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not sure what post you are referring to..but Bake Potatoe ..always has some good points..

As does Terry, excellent points..Actually most of you guys do..but I would not dismantle that team..I maintain that they need some O-line help and I’ll also tell you that Flozell is not done so even though I don’t like his leg whips..he has alot of gas left in him and he really is a solid player..So trading or cutting players from that team would be a very bad thing at this point.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 1, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right Bobbi

Cowboys will have the exact same starting OL next season, but the plan will be to add several upgrades to back them up in case of injury. Right now we only have one quality back up OL in Free, we need to replace our back ups with much more talented ones who will be able to step in the starting lineup at some point and play at a high level.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 2, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree with the same OL next year. If that is the direction we go in then come Dec/Jan we will pay dearly for it.

We need a infusion of youth and athletisim in our line. We have given attention it seems to every other position and the line has gotten old because of it. We need some youth and be ready to take a few lumps early in the season. Then late in the year when these new guys have 8-10 games under their belt make a late push.

Flo is one of my favorite players. I never had a problem with the false starts, I wanted him resigned 2-3 years ago, and I think he is still average/better than average player, but you have to be a blind man to see that his play is falling off. He is relying more and more on veteran tricks to survive. He has to trip, punch in the throat and face more to survive. I have a feeling they will be calling penalties on him much more next year and I worry about his ability to hold up for another 19 games.

I wouldnt even mind if he backed up LT for the first 10 games to see if the new guy could hold up and if not put him for the stretch run. This would allow alot less wear and tear and maybe he would have a better chance of surviving the season. Obviously if the new LT sucks he could come back earlier but I want the new guy to get a decent chance.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 2, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Well..Alot of what you say here is true...

I really think that if the Cowboys can get some O-line help..they’ll be fine..The only player I would get rid of is Williams..You guys are on the cusp of taking it all the way..Get Crayton more involved on offense..that guy is going to be a superstar..There are a bunch of O-line guys available in the draft..I really think that should be the focus for them..Despite what alot of folks say, Romo is an excellent pocket passer and he can run..but he tossses bullets..Lose Williams stick Crayton in there and watch out good things will happen..Don’t jump on Terry he is right on the money.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 2, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

We are stuck with Roy for another season

Can’t trade him because of his ginormous contract, but he isn’t bad enough to give up on and cut. I think they will make him earn the #2 WR spot next season. If he does, then great, but if he is out played by Ogletree or a rookie WR (I’m a Crayton fan, but he’s definitely better as a slot WR, not a #2), then I expect him to have a very limited role and get cut in 2011.

Ogletree is our budding (pun intended) superstar.

Drago says, "We must break you!"

by APerfectStar on Feb 2, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I forgot about Ogletree..He's good really good..

That gives you Austin (pun intended lol)..Crayton, Ogletree and arguably the best TE in football, Witten..It is a shame if Williams contract forces them to keep him..If that is the case then he needs to step it up..He has been unimpressive thus far..I’m telling ya that team looks pretty darn good to me..Us Giants fans can only hope we fix our problems which are a bit deeper than yours..I think it will come down to the Giants and Cowboys this year..for the NFC East..as long as our teams fix what is broke or weak and not overdo it..I was at the pro-bowl since it is nearby and more so for the kids..but McNabb absolutely stunk..Tony was halfway decent..but he still threw a pick into a pro-bowl defense who basically had their hands in their hip-pockets all night..Still he was pretty darn sharp out there..but anyway the Eagles and Skins aren’t going anywhere this year, so it will be the Giants and Cowboys that will vie for the East and hopefully carry it forward.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 2, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

RW doesnt bother me from the stand point that we already paid for the band(draft picks) might as well dance.

Many on here will go on about his salary but half of his money is guarenteed and Jerrys has it and the cap is fine.
Romo and RW have never been on the same page more than 25% of the time. With that you have draft picks and huge salary and massive expectations. This lends itself to frustrations and thinking to much. Thinking to much for a WR leads to a bad case of drops.
RW has been the man everywhere he has been. QBs have always had to cater to him and alter their game for him. This isnt the case now. RW is now having to alter his game but it took him some time and growing up for him to realize this. I think his comments about him losing Romo’s confidence and having to earn it back said a lot to me.(what can I say, Im an optimist)
I have a sneaky feeling that RW will re-emerge as a player. I just dont think Roys case of the drops is a permanent thing. He didnt forget how to catch. I also think him and Romo will get a better understanding of each other. The rest of the WRs(excluding Ogletree) have had 4 years playing catch with Romo.
I want to give it another year, it wont cost us anything.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 2, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Well..I hope your right about RW..but..

I can’t forgive that guy for missing that pass on a simple out pattern..right thru his hands it went..and he was wide open..Hopefully him and Romo will get in sync this year or he’ll be a high dollar bench warmer.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 2, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

squidlo, Flo will be starting next season if healthy

Nobody on the roster and no rookie we draft will beat him out. In 2011, 2012, maybe a different story, but not in 2010.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 2, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Better yet let me state right here that Refs will be call more penalties on him to the point he actually gets us beat.

I also think he will break down before the SB.

Fox called him out on TV. Remember when Madden called Irvin out for pushoffs and the next year he gets numerous penalties for push offs. I just feel the Refs are gonna ride his ass. I will remind you of this next season in Dec.

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by squidlo97 on Feb 2, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I think they pretty much coached that out of Flo..

But they need to continue to work on him or else he will get flagged alot..and the funny thing is he really doesn’t need to do that crap..and players talk to each other also and tell one another when they feel they got intentionally hit the wrong way..I took a beating out here over this Flozell tactics thing months ago when I brought it up..Players will not tolerate a player that does that kind of stuff. Anyone who has played this game knows it…If you go after a guys knees and miss he will respond in some way at some point in kind..Flozell is too talented to be doing that crap.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 3, 2010 2:59 AM CST up reply actions  

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