Give The (Old) Man A Rest: The Cowboys Still Searchin' For A Nickel Linebacker
As we near the NFL season's quarter pole, one of the Cowboys' mini-narratives is the fact that Keith Brooking, our resident defensive greybeard, has been on the field far too much. In the first three games, he has played nearly every defensive snap, which is cause for concern. Why? We need look no further than 2009, when a fresh-legged Brooking led the early-season defensive charge. By the end of the year, even though he was spelled on passing downs by Bobby Carpenter, the then 34-year-old Brooking was a tired player. Although he was still the team's de facto spiritual leader (recall his pre-game fire-up sessions: "we're gonna...hit 'em in the mouth!"), number 51 didn't play with the same quickness and pop that he had exhibited earlier in the year.
In 2010, Brooking, now a year older, has been on the field even more. Although the Cowboys brass maintains that they want to take him off the field on passing downs, he has remained a three-down player. His fellow inside 'backer, Bradie James, no spring chicken himself, could stand to be spelled for 10-12 plays a game as well. So why are these guys playing 60+ plays per game at one of the game's most physically demanding positions? This workload comes as a result of necessity, not design. We can trace the genesis of this situation back a couple of years--to the moment when Kevin Burnett elected to go to San Diego for less money but a greater promise of a starting job. Burnett was capable in pass coverage; consequently, his loss was greeted with anxious sighs across Cowboys nation--until it became apparent that Brooking, and then Carpenter, would be suitable, if not comparable, replacements. A year later, Carpenter's trade was met with a degree of celebration proportionally equivalent to the hand-wringing that greeted Burnett's departure.
This is due in part to the fact that two weeks before Carpenter was released, the Cowboys had drafted Sean Lee. The thinking was that Lee would immediately step in to the third linebacker role, which would include duty on the nickle. For the better part of the preseason, however, he was injured; when he returned, it was clear that he was not only battling the rookie learning curve, but was laboring behind it. Speaking of injured and behind, the other viable candidate to assume nickle LB duties was 2009 third-rounder Jason WIlliams, who was injured early in his rookie campaign and has been behind ever since, in spite of elite athleticism that would seemingly suit the role of cover linebacker. To complete the backup ILB trifecta, Dallas added offseason afterthought and preseason sensation Leon Williams. To date, none of these guys has been able to supplant Brooking or James on third downs.
Let's look at the Houston game to see why. Throughout the game, Wade Phillips ran out the Williamses, Jason and Leon, to spell Brooking and James. In many of these instances, the backups acquitted themselves well. For example, on the Texans' first drive of the third quarter, they deployed a run-heavy formation with two running backs and two tight ends. Phillips countered by taking Terence Newman out of the game and bringing in J. Will and L. Will; they helped stop Derrick Ward at the line of scrimmage. Later in the quarter, Leon Williams was in the game on the play in which Mike Jenkins got his interception; he returned to action as the third linebacker on the goalline defense that kept Houston out of the endzone.
On the other hand, a sequence in the third quarter reveals why putting backup ILBs in the game gives the Dallas braintrust a queasy feeling. On the Texans' drive that began with about a minute remaining in the third quarter, Phillips decided to insert the Williamses for Brooking and James. On first down, an Igor Olshansky offsides gave the Texans a first and five. On the next play, Houston went to one of its staple runs, a stretch play that strings out the defenders before Arian Foster cuts sharply to the weakside of the play. The key to stopping this cutback is for the middle linebackers to avoid overpursuing. Leon Williams, at left ILB, did a good job maintaining lane integrity, but RILB Jason Williams overpursued the play and got sucked in, allowing Foster to cut back to an open field for fifteen yards. On the next play, Brooking and James were back in the game.
The problem, as this foray into mediocrity suggests, is that the backups cannot be trusted not to blow an assignment and contribute to a big play. This doesn't mean that Wade and his crew have given up all hope; in a recent presser, he reported that he has considered having Lee or the Williamses play first and second downs, leaving Brooking and James as full-time third down 'backers. The drawback to this solution is that his defense, with subbies at ILB, might not be able to get to third downs if they continue to make mistakes. If "we can't stop the plays on first and second down, we may go the other direction," Phillips conceded, "It just depends on who comes along and how well they come along." Translation: we have no idea who might step to the forefront; we are hoping and praying that somebody does.
In a recent story, I noted the difficulty the Cowboys special teams has had in replacing its core special teamers, one of whom was Bobby Carpenter. Thanks to the excellent work of Joe DeCamillis in developing a crop of fine young maniacs, the special teams seem to be finding their sea legs. But, in addition to being a special teamer, Carpenter had a clearly-defined role on the defense, and he did it fairly well. The difficulty that the Cowboys have had in finding a nickle linebacker in 2010 suggests that we were perhaps a bit premature in breaking out the pompoms upon learning of Carpenter's demise.
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Carp Departure Not Really The Issue
. . . Dallas braintrust did not have the follow-on talent ready to go . . . the inside linebacker situation and the backup offensive tackle situation and center situation . . . championships are built and lost with these personnel decisions . . . I wonder if we made mistakes mostly by not adding some veteran talent via free agency at these critical positions. Holland for example was draft pick expenditure (not cheap with a decent pick in deep draft) think if we had added a veteran center or a veteran interior olineman or offensive tackle and/or a veteran nickle linebacker . . . as it is, youngsters must step it up a notch. If Lee can’t produce considering that we paid to move up in the draft to get him – again in a deep draft – this is gonna be painful.
Every personnel decision involves risk
I think it’s expecting too much to ask them to be right each time. That’s why it’s a risk. They let Ellis go before Spencer had shown anything. They dumped Flo before Free showed anything at LT. They had TWO guys they thought could replace Carpenter, a sub not a starter. If you want to analyze poor personnel decisions, this probably isn’t the best case study.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I'm not saying this was a poor personnel decission
What I AM saying is that Bobby Carpenter might just have been more valuable than people are willing to give him credit for…
Right
I was responding to Iowa. I actually agree. In hindsight they trusted J Williams’ progress a bit to much.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
To Say Carp Had Value
is . . . well, it demonstrates how dire the circumstances must be with respect to our ILB positions behind the starters . . . I get he played better than average on special teams but otherwise, he was below par
Church is short term soloution
Put Barry Church in as a MLB in the nickle situations until they feel that lee is heathly/up to speed
Church is a in the box SS, and could do a fine job at nickle LB
"My days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle"
according to Wade Lee is not a nickel LB
Ha!.Sugar coat it all you want but Carpenter did better than anyone realized. Remember the old saying you don’t know what you have until it’s gone? It’s so true here. Williams is a disppointment Wade didn’t anticipate and Lee had been injured. From Wades comments Lee is not the answer either so that leaves us muddling through the year with short term fixes. Probably in the offseason we might see a FA LB that can play the nickel being aquired as well as a ILB drafted to replace James. I dont think Williams is the answer and may just be a backup/special teams LB his whole career.
after seeing Carp cut by the Rams
and struggle as a nickel backer with the Dolphins, I certainly don’t miss Barbie in the least despite our problems at nickel backer right now.
In Romo we Trust
he didnt struggle i saw the same game...
He will do well over there and he’s better off in Miami than st Louis. anyway
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 1, 2010 7:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Indeed, they did play CHruch some at the nickel vs. the Texans
If you look at any of his college tape, you can see that the position he played was a strange LB-safety hybrid. So, having him play the nickel position that, say Darren Woodson used to fill wouldn’t be much of a stretch.
I agree
I think Church could be our new Bill Bates. I believe he did the same thing and it worked out well.
I agree with you both who suggested Church in that role.
Bill Bates did indeed handle that position for several years.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
This whole story line is fascinating
Wade said something the other day about Lee not being the right type of player to be the nickel. While acknowledging that comment, JJT at DMN hinted today that the coaching staff really thinks that eventually Lee WILL be that guy, but lacks the experience to be the nickel ILB. I’ll be interested to see what happens here. Clearly one take-away is that J Williams lacks the football smarts to get it done and Leon lacks some of the athleticism.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Go back and watch the interview on DC.com
He said Lee can play nickel, but he is not suited for the nickel spot that Carpenter played behind Brooking last year. Wade said Lee can play a diifferent form behing James they use. As far as Church he said Church is not going to be used in the nickel LB spot. He repeated he will only be used as a safety and not suited to play that role.
I understood that the first time
they see Lee as a back-up to Brooking more than the nickel and they intend to play Brooking at nickel until someone steps up and claims the job.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I missed the part about Church not getting a chance as nickel LB
Did Wade really say that? If so, it doesn’t make sense.
From NFL Draft Scout:
Church’s toughness and secure tackling around the LOS give him a chance to start at the next level. He’s been used in a variety of roles in Toledo’s 4-2-5 scheme, essentially a hybrid SS/LB position
This is the same scheme TCU used, and the same position that Steven Hodge played there. And as someone mentioned, it reads like Darren Woodson’s college profile. Why wouldn’t he be a candidate for the position?
"I have a feeling that when the lights come on, he's going to respond." - Coach Wade Phillips on rookie WR Dez Bryant being ready for prime time.
Sean Lee
Why they don’t give Lee a shot? I mean he looked pretty darn good in preseason
by Cuco AKA cowboysFAN on Oct 1, 2010 9:08 AM CDT reply actions
He can't stay healthy
He’s been an injury scratch the last 2 games and shouldn’t have been playing in the 1st game if he’d told the coaches about his injury.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 1, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I say we put Barry Church in there
Call me crazy but I think he kinda reminds me of Darren Woodson a little bit.
Barry Church
But isn’t he a safety?
by Cuco AKA cowboysFAN on Oct 1, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
He played a 'tweener role
Toledo roles out a 4-2-5 scheme as their base.
Church played the “star” position in the scheme where he was moved all over the place as their most versitile player.
He performed the duties of edge rusher, blitzing linebacker, lining up as a pure weakside defender, covering the slot, or at safety.
So it’s fair to say he’s probobly got lots of the skills neccessary for a nickle linebacker.
The main problem is that he’s too small for a linebacker. He’s 220lbs which makes you worried about how he can hold up taking on 300+lb guards that the 3-4 scheme demands of ILBs.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 1, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, good info
I just dug through my draft notes for 20 minutes to find the same thing (comment above). That’s what happens when you don’t read all the way through the thread before commenting.
"I have a feeling that when the lights come on, he's going to respond." - Coach Wade Phillips on rookie WR Dez Bryant being ready for prime time.
Stephen Hodge
Weren’t they looking at him for this role? Haven’t heard much about him lately but isn’t he on PUP where he can come back after week 6 or is his knee still screwed?
by b roo on Oct 1, 2010 10:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I don't know
but if he ever get healthy I would love to see what he’s got. He is a real LB/S hybrid and I obviously was drafted with that nickel LB role in mind. I honestly haven’t heard much about him, but I would love to see what he’s got if his knee is finally okay because it seems to me that he could be a great fit.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
I think that's asking for too much
by Cuco AKA cowboysFAN on Oct 1, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee looked fantastic in run support during the pre-season
I really really want to see Lee come on strong. But right now we’re sitting on a lot of hope.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 1, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
he will once he gets healthy
Lee will be a 3 down back eventually once he gets some more experience.
In Romo we Trust
Right now it sounds like we need a two down backer
with Brooking coming in for nickel situations
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.

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