Cowboys Release Safety Michael Hamlin
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 12, 2010 2:45 PM CDT
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PrintToday, the Cowboys decided to part ways with safety Michael Hamlin. The 2009 5th-round pick had yet to see significant playing time last season because of a broken forearm.
Although healthy this year, the play of UDFA safeties Danny McCray and Barry Church has seemingly pushed Hamlin off the roster.
Dallas has not filled Hamlin's roster spot, but they could sign another TE or FB to the 53 if Martellus Bennett's ankle prevents him from playing this Sunday at Minnesota.
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Hum
What to do with a free roster spot.
Get a kicker, possibly trade for OL help or one of the other areas we need help with.
Maybe sign another safety
They worked some guys out a couple of days ago.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
I doubt Wade is concerned with progress stopers at this point.
So I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ken Hamlin.
Others may disagree but I think Hamlin played better than Ball has.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Oct 12, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
I think no one disagrees on that
Unfortunately.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree...
At the very minumum..Ken Hamlin knows our scheme
Ken Hamlin was resigned by the Ravens weeks ago
as far as Mike Hamlin Ive been saying for awhile he stinks and would be short for this team. Just because he looks the part doesn’t mean he can play it…where u at Terry..Ha!
Sadly he would be an upgrade.
Ball is nothing more than a backup tweener S/CB and should never have been given the opportunity to start. Fail.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Hamlin is so bad no one in the league will sign him
And yet, he’d be an upgrade over Ball.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Was he getting any playing time at safety?
All I’ve seen him do is play STs. They need some ST players, maybe they think there’s a guy on the PS that can help.
Lock n Load
Very valid point...
I am sure he played STs
McCann
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get your hopes up.
It’s too late for any difference making trade anyway.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
A couple of weeks ago I would have agreed.
But we’re 1-3 now with the meat of the schedule coming up. It might be too late at this point.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
All I know is that the play at FS right now is disgusting
The more replays I watch the more I see that Alan Ball has no idea of what’s going on. He’s taking baits more than Ken Hamlin ever did and his reaction to plays is BRUTALLY slow. This kind of crap drives me nuts.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
Thats why I wanted us to draft Earl Thomas
He’s playing very well for the Seahawks. I know a lot of the fans love Dez and he could end up being great someday, but we already have a legit #1 receiver who is young….the need for a play making safety is much greater.
In Romo we Trust
Seattle took him at 14...
No way we would have traded up that much….
Morgan Burnett I wanted or Nate Allen
prefered Burnett because we could of got him later
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
The bottom line is there were options.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
yea but we went after Lee and Dez....
those pics took us out the draft til the 4th round……
We cud hav traded or 2nd for Burnett but who knew Burnett, Allen, and Thomas wud cum on so strong?
O yea the scouts did remember the strongest saftey class in years…
We got akawsi.. i really think he’s a student of the game he seem like a sponge.. time to let him go loose and get him off returns
word
Akwasi is going to be a little steal watch
he is a sponge, he is smart and loves the game
fast too
not kickoff Harvin fast but for a FS he is fast watch
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then I want to see him play.
I like Akwasi, but drafting Burnett wouldn’t have meant we couldn’t draft Akwasi. We could have gone Dez, Burnett, OG, and then Akwasi.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
I couldn't believe we took Sean Lee over Morgan Burnett.
I was mad about it, cooled off after they convinced me that Lee was way up their board, and now I am mad again.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
I could see possibly taking someone instead of Dez (though we got a major steal there) because we already have WRs and especially Miles
but Lee was a real necessity. Brooking looks all but done, and James not too far behind. We could not go without a valid ILB. Or would you rather have kept Carpenter?
Well let me put it this way:
When the draft came around I ranked our needs OL, FS, WR, ILB. As such, I thought for sure our second round pick was going to be an O-lineman or FS after nabbing Dez. As such, I thought that Morgan Burnett was just sitting there waiting to be nabbed in the second round. I am biased as a Tech student but I honestly believed he was border first round material with his range and intelligence. It was for that reason that Sean Lee surprised me so much and put me off. Its not that I didn’t see ILB as a need, but I just didn’t see the sense in spending one of our higher draft picks on an ILB for the 4th time in the last six drafts (2005, 2006, 2009, 2010). It wasn’t so much that I disliked Lee as it was that I wanted Burnett.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
yea me too....
when i saw burnett still on the board i knew we had him… but when i saw us trade up i was like oh ooo…
but i just thought dallas Knew what they were doing to giv Ball the starting postion.. who am i to say anything they got film of the guy not me..
but o well u win sum and u loose sum…
but real talk Lee is a beast… when he start playn yesterday he was a monster in the run game…
Unless we traded Choice to Seattle...
I am not sure how we could trade up
no there wasn't
you’d be mortgaging that whole draft or a high pick next round. There is no reasonable way to move from 27th or whatever to 14.
I was about to say the same thing
I love what Dez brings for the future, but safety is a critical position today and we’re playing with a bum back there. I wish we could go back and trade all of last year’s draft for Earl.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that's just silly
It’s extremely expensive to move up that high in the draft. And for everything you trade you’re still 50% likely to end up with a bust.
Let’s not over-react like DMN commentors here.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think anybody is overreacting.
There were areas that needed to be addressed, and most people acknowledged it at the time, and furthermore said that if a few specific areas didn’t get addressed (namely O-line, FS, and K) then this team could potentially have problems. Those areas didn’t get taken care of, and now the team is having problems. I don’t see how being mad about the team not doing what it needed to do to take care of business is overreacting, especially when a lot of people correctly predicted what the consequences could be.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The Sean Lee pick
may well keep us in the playoff hunt. Without that pick, we’d be screwed right now. And it would take a 1st,2nd and maybe a 4th to get to 14.
You'd be trading your 1st and 2nd and probobly a 2nd in the 2011 draft to move up
For a guy that might be a bust.
Not wise.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say we should move up to 14...
There were other options available in the second round and beyond. I’m fine with Dez in the 1st round. Like I said below, I can’t fault them for that one. When a top 5 talent falls to you in the 20’s you have to put your needs aside and jump on it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The Cowboys' Round 1 strategy was perfect, they did the best thing they could possibly do in round 1
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
And for the 3rd time, I don't disagree with that.
It’s everything that happened after round 1 that I have an issue with.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
whats the point debating the draft?.
its gone-been and done..
it wont help fix our problems right now.
cant change it guys..
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Oct 12, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I know.
It doesn’t make it any less wrong the way it ended up though. Sorry, but it still aggravates me to death because I saw all this coming.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
just winding yourselves up,
i could go on and on about the o-line but its not going to change the present roster.
maddening as it is..
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Oct 12, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It's just maddening because a lot of us knew this was going to happen.
I’ve tried to let it go, I just can’t.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
i hear you!!,
ive been moping around all season :(
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Oct 12, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed, Davie and txhc
I’ve experienced both—anger and moping around—hell, probably denial, too. All the stages of grief.
Sadly, that’s the way it is sometimes when you can see what’s going to happen, but can’t “do” anything about it.
Everybody concerned about OL and S had ample reason, and our worst fears seem confirmed.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Thomas wasn't feasible
Nate Allen is playing very well for PHI and would have been more realistic as a draft choice, I was on his bandwagon.
But I’d still take Dez over them. When a talent like Dez is available you take him no matter what.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Forgot about Allen too. And he’s got those numbers playing behind a defense that on paper is much worse.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus he's a leader on the defense already
It’s bad enough that he’s playing better than I would have hoped for if Dallas had founf a way to get him, but he’s doing it for the Iggles. Makes it 100x worse.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Jenkins was lobbying for him.
I can’t fault them for Dez, but everything after that should have gone differently. They should have ended up with a Nate Allen and a John Jerry or something. They could have made moves to get it done.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
2nd Round...
We should have moved up…which means we would not have ended with Sean Lee….
I don't care about Sean Lee.
I’m fine with that. We had bigger needs.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Sure but Sean Lee hasn't shown us he can be a complete stud
Those guys in 4 and 5 games already have. We’ll have to see how Lee is at that point.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess this is a matter of opinion
but i don’t believe guys are “destined” for stardom. On this team, with this secondary coach teaching him, he would’ve been asked to play a big role in this offense – what happens when rush 7, go man with a safety over top and he makes a couple wrong decisions? does his confidence just go out?
I know, right?
You would think that an ILB coming from Linebacker U (aka Penn State), would be able to transition immediately into a professional defense, pickup all the nuances, understand the game speed changes and adapt to all those things inside of 6 months.
Right?
Wait. Didn’t Lee have some injury issues in training camp that limited his playing time? Didn’t Lee sit out the last two games due to a hamstring strain?
So, we have a rookie ILB that has fought some injuries and he isn’t making a big impact in the game. Huh. How long did it take Austin or Romo to show us they can be studs on the field?
Give the guy a break. I believe he’ll be showing off by the end of the season, which is where I’d rather have him playing like a stud.
by Northern Cowboy on Oct 13, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Going back in time...
This could have meant no Lee, no trade with STL for Barron…Barbie would be our Nickel LB…considering where we are now…i can defntly live with that…
yea
but it would also mean we’d be starting barbie next week next to a broken down brooking. Either way you look at it, we’d be in trouble.
Crap
I hope not.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
to clarify
no, hes day to day, but hes going to be limited even if he does play. That statement looks redundant.
We REALLY needed help at ilb, almost as much as safety. Since the teams scouts graded Lee high, I see no way we can complain they made the wrong choice.
Really...
I am excited about Dez. But back to back drafts we spend a #1 on a WR? I am probably wrong, but there is only one other organization that I know has done this: Matt Millens Lions.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Yes, you are very wrong.
Lots of teams have taken a WR in the first.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
You are right
that I am very wrong if what I said was I don’t know any other organizations that take WR in the first round. That would be idiotic, since I root for a team that took a HOF WR in the first round in 1988.
But, I was wondering if there were any organizations other than the Lions that have spent #1 picks in back-to-back drafts on WR like we did: (2009—RW and 2010—Dez Bryant). Perhaps too nuanced for you.
My thought was that it was probably a little extravagant to do so in light of all the major areas of need.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
My bad.
I must have glossed over the back to back drafts part. It’s right there in black and white, guess I got ahead of myself.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The funny part is we also went back to back first round on the SAME player the Lions did!
- "If you know so much about women why are you here at the Gas 'n' Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?"
- "By choice! Man"
by fan since '65 on Oct 13, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thomas' #s are
3 ints, 23 solo and 4 asst tackles. Both Allen and Thomas are already studs.
Lock n Load
It's not like people weren't warned this would happen.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I said it when we let go of Ken Hamlin
And I’ll say it again, our defense didn’t look as good without K. Hamlin in there as it did with him. When he was active and healthy the defense just clicked. Sure, we didn’t make many plays, but we cut him and look what that has gotten us. I think we bring him back and settle for at least decent Safety play for this year and draft a stud for next year.
Dude, 31 teams passed on him
Baltimore cut him weeks ago and no one has even auditioned him for a backup role. Ken Hamlin is not an NFL-caliber safety. He’s not good. He can’t even make the Detorit Lions as a backup.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yet he could make this team as a starter.
What does that tell you?
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I agree, and I said as much when it came out that he was likely to become the starter.
Preaching to the choir.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Didn't we have a chance at
Nnamdi Asomugha from the Raiders? Wasn’t he originally a safety?
Official Bandwagoner of the Binghamton Bearcats!!! What? I never said I was smart.
Hey, you're right
They did re-sign him last week.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope ...
…this helps.
Sigh.
I think I’m in the second stage of depression.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
I'm sure he will
He won’t ever be graded higher, unless he goes on to bomb for some reason this season.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Aw man
I’m just gonna try to erase that guy’s name off my mind. Because come 2011 I don’t wanna cry for him ending up on another team.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
As bad as Ball has been...i feel sorry for him
I am not sure if he was ever ready to be a FS….Campo and Wade screwed the pooch on this one
I think he'll end up back at CB
Maybe this time spent learning safety will make him a better CB in the long run.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a capable backup DB.
Nothing more.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Good enough
A capable backup CB and ST gunner.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean I'm fine with that.
You need somebody to fill that role on your team, and he’s not the worst option you could have for that role. The problem I have is that whoever was making the decisions should have accepted this as well and pursued other candidates for the starting job instead of hoping Ball would become something that he isn’t.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I'm still hoping AOA is the man for the job
He missed time with the shoulder rehab, but he seems like a pretty smart guy in interviews, so maybe he isn’t too far behind where he would have been if he hadn’t missed time. Maybe we’ll see him at FS sooner than anticipated.
One thing the Cowboy’s can’t ignore is bad play from the FS. Every team will be chucking it deep until the defense proves they can stop it.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
My only issue with AOA is the level of talent he was used to facing as opposed to what he will be facing now at this level. Because of that alone I think we are looking at 2 years minimum before we really know what we have with him.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
AOA cant do any worse than ball,
he has done nothing at FS so far,put the rookie in.
at least he has blazing speed and he can pick a pass.
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Oct 12, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If indeed it was their decision.
I have a feeling Jerry had a lot to say about it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Takes it and then throws consulys a magic 8 ball
by playactionman on Oct 12, 2010 4:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My phone really messed that one up. LOL!!!!
Apparently I’m using Jerry’s technique.
by playactionman on Oct 12, 2010 4:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ball hasn't earned anything on this team
he was out played in 2007 by K.Oglesby in TC but they opted to keep Ball bc he was cheaper, an inch taller & was a draft pick. the fact that the guys been handed every job since arriving was bad news to start with.
i think Q.Demps might get a look at FS
Next year's draft looks real good for safeties
Deunta Williams, NC
DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson
Moore, UCLA
Mark Barron, Bama (if he comes out)
Tyler Sash, Iowa
Tejay Johnson, TCU
all 1st or 2nd rd potential
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
Man seeing Clemson just reminds me of Michael Hamlin
Of course I haven’t seen Deandre play and he as of now is rated pretty high, but Hamlin played good at Clemson.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
McDaniel from Clemson is a beast
the dude is just a playmaker & the few times i’ve seen him on TV it was obvious he was the best player on both defenses. he keep Clemson in the game against C.Newton & the Arburn Tigers which isn’t a easy task for an ACC calibur school
I'm no expert on him, but I caught the Clemson/NC game last weekend
He looks like a smart, hard hitting in the box type safety. He stood out in a game that featured a lot of future NFL players.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
so was Mike Hamlin
I dont want anyone from Clemson
Duenta Williams Mark Barron Carter from OU guys like that they can go after please
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't let one bust tarnish an entire program
But if DAL goes for a safety high in the draft, I’d rather them go after the balhawking FS type like Earl Thomas.
I guess Rahim Moore, and Deunta Williams are more in that mold.
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
Duenta Williams is the guy I want
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually think it depends what the team thinks of Akwasi.
If they have a high opinion of him, I would be perfectly fine with going after a more physical safety. Sensabaugh is average anyways. Then again, I wouldn’t mind having two ballhawks back there. I still think this front seven is good enough to stop the run without a Roy Williams type safety. My problem is that all of a sudden against Tennessee we seemed to lose confidence in our front seven and sold out so hard against the run that we watched Britt burn us deep.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
yup
I want Akwasi at FS and another ballhawk at SS
Ive never seen our SS have to make tackles all that much
Church for SS man
by Archie Barberio on Oct 13, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you've got it backwards
He was a safety at TCU and is supposed to transition to an inside linebacker here.
by Dezstroyer88 on Oct 12, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he could someday be a very good nickel backer and ST player if he gets healthy.
Outside of that though I don’t think he has starting potential.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
:( Just heard Davis is starting at OG this week,
and MB# is startind at RB. I’ve always said I don’t care who starts as long as Felix get 15- 20 touches.
Lock n Load
I do
I just don’t understand the decisions this team makes sometimes. When felix has gotten significant touches, this offense has done well…almost every time. He is a big play threat and imo nearly as good of an all around back as barber (taking out his explosiveness). I just don’t get it.
You should have heard Wade shooting sunshine up our butts about Davis
He was in the press conference calling him a pro-bowl player and telling us how well he did when they put him back in (with no mention of Holland’s injury… they just put him back in!)
It’s so sick, I’m done with this guy. Get him out of here and insert Garrett. I can’t stand rooting for a team with this fool at the helm.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
unbelievable !!! grrrrrrrr..BS wade ..
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Oct 12, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hodge is the cure for all our Woes....
He will be a ST Ace.. Safety on First and Second downs…and a Nickel ILB….
Sorry but Hodge= Justin Beriault
Good player that will never see the field.
Justin Beriault...
I was trying to remember that name…he had a ton of potential…thanks for the memory refresh
I think safety is way too hopeful.
The other two could, and hopefully do happen. I would love it if Jason Williams and Stephen Hodge could stay healthy and have the lights go off in their heads to play on the nickel.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Once I saw that "coverage" of Matt Forte on his wide-open touchdown catch...
I was done with Hamlin.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
what about AOA?
Is he so raw that he has no chance to even perform at Ball’s level? Does he practice as safety at all?
by playactionman on Oct 12, 2010 4:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wade has no love for rookies
I don’t see a newbie starting unless injuries mount.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade is too stubborn for his own good then
Other teams play rookies even if they were lower round prospects.
by playactionman on Oct 12, 2010 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And I don't think coverage is his goods.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
How about McCray
That Interception made me happy
Official Bandwagoner of the Binghamton Bearcats!!! What? I never said I was smart.
From a small school I think it's unfair to put him in there mid-season in his rookie year
He’s the kind of guy you draft to groom as a project player. If you put AOA in I think it’s under the impression that he “can’t do worse than Ball” rather than expecting him to be an upgrade.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Small school versus big school… Does it matter at this level?
I mean can you imagine not assigning a project or task to someone at work because they graduated from a small school versus someone from A&M or some other large school. Talent and brains and skills are what count.
by playactionman on Oct 12, 2010 4:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Level of competition
Big schools get the best recruits. So the players play the best competition every week and execute gameplans against the best offensive and defensive coordinators. They have access to the best coaching staff and positional coaches as well.
It’s the same thing in the corporate world. If you have 10 years of experience as the CEO of Coca Cola Corp. you’re going to be a lot more sought after for a job than a guy with 10 years of experience running a small family business.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Small school versus big school… Does it matter at this level?
I mean can you imagine not assigning a project or task to someone at work because they graduated from a small school versus someone from A&M or some other large school. Talent and brains and skills are what count.
by playactionman on Oct 12, 2010 4:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Akwasi
I loved him during April in the whole predraft process
I still think he is the answer long term
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions
Either way
I’d hate to see the Cowboys ignoring Safety early in next year’s draft. Unless we see Akwasi being pretty good by the end of the year.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
they wont
S and OL is the two areas they know they have to draft
still I think Akwasi is going to be good
the reason is because of his raw skill
Mike Hamlin never had Akwasi’s size speed range and ballhawk abilities
jmo
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
But it needs to be early
1st or 2nd round. Don’t come with Michael Hamlins Deangelo Smiths Mickens crap at the end of the draft.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
And here I thought Sam Young was our answer at right tackle
back to the drawing board!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Why waste a pick?
I don’t even know why Jerry wasted a pick on this guy he was the human turnstile at ND imagine what he’ll do against real football players with a better skill level.
by cryinsilverblustars4eva on Oct 13, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
You would think so right??
They wont. S and OL is the two areas they know they have to draft
Yet, we said the same thing this offseason and here we are.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
lol i know
but its time to reach next year
we have too
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
why is it that
everyone here is so obsessed with re-doing past drafts all the time? Pretty much every team could second guess every draft to some degree couldnt they?
OBSERVATION - EMOTION = COMMON SENSE
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 12, 2010 4:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What we really mean is that we knew
This safety bs would come back to bite us in the ass.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
That is what some people still can’t get through their heads. It’s not like we’re using 20/20 hindsight here. People had already spotted the problem areas for the most part and knew what needed to be addressed.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
just re-do the 09 draft thats it for me
by Archie Barberio on Oct 12, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like a do over on 2004 and 2006
"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff
by APerfectStar on Oct 12, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I would love to redo 2006.
That was an awful draft for a young team like we were.
Formerly Cowboyfan729
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
its starting to seem like it
Has victor butler seen the field this year? He should be getting PT. if not, Wade needs to find a way to make that happen.
Buehler looks like hes about to be cut or demoted. McGee and Brewster are the only remaining guys who have a shot at making some sort of an impact or staying power in the future.
The big problem with the 09 draft was the Roy Williams trade, not the picks. When you lose two of your top 3 picks, your draft will almost certainly yield little value
Who is Victor Butler going to put ont he bench?
Ware or Spencer?
Play him in spot duty to give those two a breather, but not significant snaps.
True, although now that Roy is starting to show signs of life, 09 may not be quite as awful as it was looking
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and he'll be gone next year
when the salary cap returns
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 13, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Vikings open at -2 and now it's down to -1 /12 and -1 in some places.
Steam going on the Cowboys.
Lock n Load
I don't see it happening
Goodell suspends punks that screw up more than once. That’s number 1 for Pervre.
by Cowboysaficionado on Oct 12, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i doubt favre gets suspended that quick
it could take 2-3 weeks atleast, then on top of that its a 2 year old story that the chick sold to a blog instead of turning into the police. it sounds like a bunch of nothing IMO.
yes ..it doesnt look like much..
sorry bret ;)
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on Oct 12, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
plus she can be bought, ANYTHING for a buck.
she won`t co-operate with the investigation and it will blow over. The NFL is taking this matter seriously as it is offensive to women`s rights…btw did anybody see the hot piece of meat the NFL hired to promote the game?woohoo a swimsuit model!!!! she certainly has the qualifications!!!!great timing by the NFL.
I hope Favre plays so the D can take him out for running up the score at the end of the game
Lock n Load
they need to blitz Scandrick....
let him do what he does best…injure someone rather than covering them
People loved him - predicting that he would start
must be the same types who said we were solid at kicker going into the season
I guess there is no alternative to Alan Ball
what was the plan if Ball sucked? Don’t teams plan for such contingencies?
Mike Hamlin was competing with him for the job...
hahaha, Mike Hamlin was their backup plan!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Oct 12, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Not this team.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
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