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What Changes would you make defensively for the immediate future?


As a Cowboy fan, I have been used to seeing the offense perform the way it has for years now, so I am not shocked by what happened on offense, and I do mean the injury to Tony also. But for this fanpost, I will go against what Dallaspalace has usually written about, and make it exclusively about the defense. Many have read my posts, and alot of people have called me "single-minded" in regards to the Cowboys, always talking and writing about the offense, and Jason Garrett. It is true. 

But I also do not like some of the decisions Wade makes on defense also. Jason Williams and Sean Lee should be out there alot more than what we've seen (to replace Keith Brooking and Bradie James, if only to give them a breather).

Anthony Spencer should be replaced by Victor Butler. Maybe not permanently, but what's wrong with lighting a little fire under Spencer, and causing a little competition for the position? This is the coaches job, by the way.

 Danny McCray and Barry Church maybe should replace Gerald Sensabaugh and Alan Ball respectively also in the same way as mentioned above with the LBers.

 Josh Brent-Price should outright be the nose tackle, and move Jay Ratliff over to DE. Maybe that will happen now with the injury to Jason Hatcher. Rat was being manhandled by the Giants Oline, and he is wearing down. The rigors of that position don't fit his physical traits. He is a big 300 lb lean fast Dlineman, but the NT position requires you constantly take on two blockers. If you look at all the teams that have run a successful 3-4 defense, the NT is the monster. He usually is around 6-2 and weighs 330. Rat isn't that kind of Dlineman. Yet he has played NT well, it's just that he gets burned out by the midle of the year. If you noticed, at the middle of the 3rd quarter, Josh Brent-Price was out there, and he was holding his own rather well I thought. This guy is our monster . 

 Lastly, I believe that Newman should be our slot CB, not Scandrick. I don't know where Cletis Gordon is, but they have Bryan McCann on our practice squad, and they both were our leading intercepting CB's during pre-season. Bring one or both back, and demote Scandrick to the practice squad. Jenkins feels like he never gets any safety help. He never does. That's why he committs pass interference penalties. He IS a great CB- trust me on that. That play where Steve Smith caught the ball, I saw Alan Ball with Jenkins, and that was the first time I saw Alan Ball around the ball ever this year (well, maybe a couple of other times too). The Cowboys really need to see what Barry Church and Danny McCray can do at the safety positions.

 Can Barry Church hold down the FS position? We have been asking these type of questions about the position since Darren Woodson retired years ago.

One thing is for certain- alot of fans will be very heated and angry if the some changes aren't made. I've already read alot of people write the sentence "Great- we played like crap, so they are not going to make any changes". What does that tell you about decisionmaking? Some changes should be made. This is not working. But I do believe that the defense can turn things around.

These are my opinion of what should happen on Defense.I don't know if people are going to think I'm crazy- I don't care. At this point, I just want to see some heart, desire, and determination to go out and hit somebody- anybody. Sorry Jacksonville Jaguars, but you are first on this list. Anything to get the juices flowing, and get a victory.

What's your opinion on what should happen to upgrade the defense? Inquiring Dallas Cowboy fans want to know..

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what I would do

let me first start by saying I dont care if we run a 3-4 a 4-3 a 12345678910 defense next year
thats up the new head coach who is actually a real head coach, unlike Grandpa Wade
Spencer hasnt been good, but I think he is a really talented player
maybe benching him next game would get him going
but long term Spencer is going to be a great player. I saw it last year
imo Scandrick shouldnt see the field and be cut next year
if you want to make him earn his spot back this year take him and put him on ST’s
make him earn it back
put Akwasi at FS put Ball at #3CB or flip that around
Church and Akwasi should be the FS and SS however you want to try it
Sensabaugh is the worst starting SS in the NFL as of right now, he is awful
he cant tackle he cant cover he cant generate turnovers, yes he had a INT the other night but that was a tip drill he is supposed to catch that
I also wondered why he didnt jet for the sideline or step around the 2 Giants WR’s on the ground
he had a 8 yard return which if Rolle picked that off was a TD
Josh Brent is a great find, he has a future here no matter what we play
Ware isnt getting any help
Lee needs to play over Brooking, Brooking has been flat off awful, and his leadership we all raved about is nowhere to be seen
Ratliff is still one of the best in the game, but is getting no help from his DE’s and ILB’s
he is being gameplanned around
changes like this is what this has come to when your season is over and you dont have your franchise QB
with Kitna and how bad the defense has been if we dont beat the Jags, I dont think we beat another team, I hate to say that but thats just how I feel
with Romo I would never suggest seeing what younger players can do
but every game here on out is all gametape the next coach will have on these younger players and I would rather that coach have some film on the younger guys to better assess his situation
its crazy that a top 5 defense returning 10 starters is this bad, its the most shocking part to me
amazing im saying this but how important was Ken Hamlin after all?
who knows now
our safties are never seen on big plays, I never see a saftey giving Newman or Jenkins help
never
last year we could put Jenkins on a island, not this year
its not the same
Jenkins will be back to his pro bowl level again, just not this defense not this year

by Archie Barberio on Oct 27, 2010 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

You've watched every SS in the league to make that assessment?

Doubtful.

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by Iron Fist on Oct 28, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey bud

we dont like me I get it

name me a SS that Gerald Sensabaugh is better than that starts in the NFL
lets just start with the NFC for starters

Ive seen enough of Gerald Sensabaugh the last 2 years to think in my opinion he is the worst starting SS in football
I watch other teams play and I watch opposing teams SS during our games
everyone one of them has been better besides the Bears SS
Skins Texans Titans Giants all have had better SS’s
Pollard is actually good at what he does, and its a fair argument to say the Vikings starting SS might be not as good as Gerald I will give you that

by Archie Barberio on Oct 28, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like that you talk about stuff you know nothing about.

Sensabaugh has played, “meh” but I doubt he’s the worst starting SS in the league. He wasn’t horrible last year.

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by Iron Fist on Oct 28, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he wasn't Fist

And I myself actually like Gerald. I believe he is our best safety. But, I also got to agree with Chia a little bit- there is alot of anxiety with alot of people (myself included) over the safety position. Look at the picture in my profile- something we haven’t seen in a long time. A big hit on a star player laying them out. That is what Mr. Darren Woodson used to do for us Fist.

The safety position has been a real depressing and failure position for the Dallas Cowboys since Woodson retired. Why can’t we hold the position in a higher regard, especially with the pass oriented game of today being so prevalent? I believe our scouts are not as good as they are claimed to be, or someone (Jerry?) doesn’t take they’re advice. Whatever the case Fist, it is the team that takes a hit for such foolishness- and we fan’s suffer as a result.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just dont think we do a good job

in the scouting area on safties or drafting them
we have only drafted one in a long time
Mike Hamlin was the only one since Pat Watkins thats not good

by Archie Barberio on Oct 28, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

You could say the same thing about

Oline too Chia, but of course, I wrote this fanpost to be about defense, so you are right.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh and your a expert

your a fan just like me

Sens wasnt horrible last year? wow thats a great vote of confidence there
he was average
this year he has sucked
he cant tackle he cant cover and he is no leader, he didnt want to take over Ken Hamlins spot to call the plays
so I guess I know what im talking about Tony Stark

by Archie Barberio on Oct 28, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Fist may be right Chia

Sensi may be a little apprehensive now, and it has really hurt his performance. He has been performing sub-par, so any way you want to slice it, both you, and fist, do have good points about him, but iin the end, I think even fist will admit that both safety positions are not playing up to even average performance, so he knows something must be done. I know that Sensi will not get a big contract, and I think he deserves a chance to stay with the team, and try out with the new coach, but he’s got to earn it, just like everybody else, and prove it. He hasn’t this year so far.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a fan...

that doesn’t butcher the English language and doesn’t come off as a complete moron.

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by Iron Fist on Oct 28, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You Know Fist

I’ve read alot of your posts, and I respect your opinion very much. I don’t agree on everything with everyone that is a Cowboy fan, but that is understandable, since we all view things of importance differently.

After seeing the kind of Jabs that I see you and Chia doing, I want to point out that I have had so many jabs with so many people here over the years, it’s become normal anymore. I have had viscious arguments with Luke, Bishopwest, and Creasy, as well as Terry and others too. It accomplished nothing. This is what our oppnents want- disarray with not only the team, but with fan’s. I know that youy don’t agree with the way Chia has worded things, and I understand, But I understand something a bout Chia that posters here don’t- he is a fellow New Yorker.

Maybe if Chia sounds a little bit “angry” and comes off as a hardass, he has the right to be. We don’t like our team losing to the local “New York Giants” team for us because it hurts, and it hurts bad. Chia is just letting off steam, and venting. After watching the Giants defense have good safety play for a long time, we both (me and Chia) I’m sure would love a Dallas safety to knock the piss out of any reciever for a change. Myself, i haven’t put Gerald Senabaugh in any doghouse, or any player for that matter, more than the Coaches. You have to keep that in perspective, especially when you read what I wrote in the body of the fanpost:

" I’ve already read alot of people write the sentence “Great- we played like crap, so they are not going to make any changes”.

I’m not trying to bring up excuses for Chia, but I’m sure you can sympathize with his anger at sub-par play for the team we love, and we all want to see a change for the better from the toilet level.

By the way, I don’t like the term “Sensaballs” either. I like Gerald.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm angry.

I just don’t have to come down to personal insults like calling Wade Phillips fat and stuff like that. I suppose this is my problem for thinking most BTBrs are above that type of garbage.

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by Iron Fist on Oct 28, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree totally Fist

It’s one thing to criticize the performance of a player, or a coach/coaches performance. It’s even ok to disagree and criticize a fellow poster. I’m not above criticism.

 But if someone goes to the level of disrespecting the actual person to the point of namecalling and belittling, then you cross a line. Too many people do it. I even did it once out of anger, a couple of years ago. I made up a knickname for Jason Garrett, and Raphael Vela let me have it. I think Raphael still hates me to this day for it. I was angry. We all do and say stupid things when we are angry- that’s the truth. I’m sure Chia is just going through a phase like that, where he looks at the team, and sees the consistent failure, and thinks that not enough has been done, and that more bad decisions are coming. So he blows his stack- not new.

If you are interested, I will go back and look at the knickname I made up for Garrett 2 years ago that pissed Raphael off. It was a very funny Knickname, but very bad- as bad as “sensaballs” i think- maybe worse. I regret it, but I still feel strongly that Garrett is a weakness on the team. I’m just not so “venomous” as back then. Funny thing is, I forgot the Knickname..

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Fist

I don’t think the knickname was bad, it was bad for back then, when alot of people where more defensive and protective of Garrett. It’s really not important- that knickname I made up. What is important is understanding That I got angry, and erupted in a stupid long post back then that is laughable and unimportant anymore. it accomplished nothing but just showed myself what a baby I was to cry out like the way I did- I was hurt as a fan, and I wanted satisfaction. I didn’t get it.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't give a crap if Chia is angry or not...

but he could at least type his responses in Word and run a spell/grammar check before posting that garbage on here.

by Damnsammit on Nov 3, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sensi has not played his best this year.

Seeing Ball struggle, I think he has been more hesistant in his play. Often this will leave the fan believing that neither safety has a clue. We’ve seen that this season. I don’t believe Ken Hamlin was that good, but he was better than Ball has been. Safety was an area of concern all through the off season and rightfully so. In saying that, the defense as a whole has not been impressive. The pass rush has been limited, the linebacker play spotty and the penalties on Jenkins have been killers.
      Blame Sensi for his part in a bad defense not the entire problem.

by oldboysfan on Oct 28, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't completely

blow this defense up some of the players are good players and players who should stay.

DL- I’m not sure what you do about the d-line. ratliff is a very good player, and until we have a better nose tackle come around (which we won’t) you leave him there despite all the talk of his weight. Igor and Spears are mediocre, if the coaches watch tape and think they can do a decent job, then leave them, but I think we can upgrade at both positions.

LB – Obviously Ware is a great player and doesn’t need to be replaced. Spencer is a good player, and not every player on the team can be a start you also need solid players like spencer, so I say leave him. Brooking has to go he’s getting old his play i declining and he can’t shed blocks. James IMO also has to go, He doesn’t make big plays, he drops interceptions, he isn’t fast enough laterally to string out running plays, and he just point blank is a mediocre player who’s time has come. I say put Sean lee in there let him learn this year and see what the kid has. You can use the William’s as well, but who knows what they will provide, we might as well see them play though for the rest of the year now that it is over.

DB – #1 Scandrick must go, he is atrocious and get’s dominated by every single player he lines up against, whether that player is steve smith nicks, or some random, Scandrick just plain sucks. jenkins will be a player he has potential and he is the only aggresive DB we have, we need more like him. Newman can stay because going into next year we probably won’t have a better option, but he is overrated, declinging, not agressive does not make big plays on the ball. We should draft a DB or two (if we’re low enough that kid from LSU (patrick or something) would be perfect) Alan Ball is bad, he should go, and sense is bad he should go. again we paid a SS a year after he played decent and that SS sucked. He can’t cover or tackle, or catch, Sense should go. I do not know about FA or draft prospects b/c i never thought I would have to look this time a year, but both safety positions should be filled w new blood.

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by iCowboy on Oct 28, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Patrick Peterson

thats who I want and thats who we should draft
you need 3 strong CB’s in the NFL now
besides I love TNew but the guy is getting old, never to early to have the next guy in line
and we actually believed a few years ago Scandrick was the replacement
god times have changed

by Archie Barberio on Oct 28, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything you've said icowboy

except, believe it or not, sensi. I’m kinda on the border about him. I agree with Chia that he has played bad so far, but I think what Fist is saying is right- he is being apprehensive, and that in itself is a big mistake within this defense. He should flow and react quick, not be hesitant, and he needs to be a bigger hitter. I actually believe he should be our FS, but maybe a backup in the future?? I don’t know. Sometimes, veteran players get into a slump, then they snap out of it and play awesome.

But maybe Chia is right- maybe soon, it will be time to throw Akwasi out there. I truly am interested in seeing what he can do, as well as Church and McCray.

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Oct 28, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, you just about covered the blemishes.

I want more Lee and it would be nice to see what the newer NT and safeties are capable of. However I think we are all going to be frustrated a bit since this coaching staff (and I include Dr Jones in that label..I think he has more personnel interference than we know) seems to be reluctant or unwilling to give the new guys playing time, we’re going to be stuck with the present incarnation until the season is mathematically over.

I started out with nothing and still have most of it left

by Benthere on Oct 28, 2010 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

My simplistic plan:

Relief, not replace (except for Ball and Brooking).

1) D-Line rotation. Spears, Olshansky, Hatcher, and Bowen are all mediocre players so we might as well keep them fresh since you aren’t losing anything. Constant rotation every time they change packages to wear down the opposing offensive line. Spell Ratliff with Brent and Lissemore, no need for Ratliff to get 90% of the plays. This is not the playoffs and he is not as dominating as he was last year – probably because he is being overplayed and worn down.

2) Demote Alan Ball. No need to cut him because he is what he is – a 4th string CB. Leave him at that. As far as the FS situation goes we have plenty of options to try out. Play McCray for a series or two and if that doesn’t work well then give Church a try. AOA is out for a few weeks, but give him a game or two at the end unless for some miraculous reason we are sitting in playoff contention.

3) Bench Brooking. Sean Lee was rated higher by the Cowboys than any LB in history not named Patrick Willis. Let’s see what he can do instead of continuously watching Brooking miss a tackle by a step or two. Hopefully Lee’s presence will help James who is struggling a little bit as well, thus making the inside much better. If James continues to struggle, spell him with Leon Washington to send a stronger message.

4) Get Victor Butler in there. Obviously D. Ware is the best defensive player we have, so getting reps at OLB are going to be tough, but with a guy who has proven a lot in such little time (Butler) you have to increase his playing time. He can spell both Ware and Spencer on long drives, and there has to be a way to get all three on the field at the same time in some passing situations. They all have a knack for getting the QB and Butler has shown several times that he can force fumbles. 4 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, on only a handful of plays? Let’s see what we have there.

by Damnsammit on Nov 3, 2010 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

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