The NFC East WR's
by Jeterian 2 on Nov 16, 2010 5:22 PM CST
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PrintThe NFC East has the best WR's in the game. Let me say this the Washington Redskins has NO wide receivers I'm about to mention. So if you're from Hogs Haven and were expecting to see Santana Moss or Joey Galloway on this list you're in for a disappointment. The other teams actually have some talent for their QB's. The Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles have some of the best 1-2 WR combos in the NFL.
I have to to say Miles Austin and Dez Bryant is the best. Not being a homer at all, but Miles runs excellent routes and has amazing speed. Hes been a monster since week 6 in Kansas City. He set a Cowboys receiving game record that week and got the Cowboys the game winning touchdown. When T.O. went down we though Roy Williams would replace his number. Boy were we wrong. Miles had just played two weeks in the NFL and had 4 TD's and was the ninth most productive receiver in the NFL going into Week 8. Austin was third in receiving yards with 1320 and made his first pro-bowl appearance. Austin did not slow down this season. He has 725 yards and only 3 TD's. While he had 13 in 2009 he also had Tony Romo throwing him the ball for most of the year. He now has Kitna and the Cowboys have a ton of other offensive weapons. His past 2 seasons hes averaged about 16 yards per reception and gets 81 yards per game.
Dez Bryant is a reason Austin has had a reduction in TD's. Dez was a steal in this years draft. Right now he is looking like a top two Rookie of the year candidate. He has 7 overall TD's 5 catching and 2 punt returns. He has over 500 yards and averages 13.1 yards a catch. He has around 50 YPG. I expect Dez to become a superstar. Within the next year or so Bryant will be a top 10 WR in the NFL and will command double teams. With another top 10 WR on the other end that might be trouble for DB's in the NFL. Especially with Tony Romo slinging the ball in there. Dez is a hard worker. Many praise his worth ethic and that will get him far in this league if he keeps it up. He uses the talent he has to a full extent.
The Giants also have a nice tandem. Steve Smith and Hakeem Nicks are two of the better WR's in the game today. Steve Smith has owned the hook and hitch route. A reason he averages around 10 YPC. In 2009 Steve Smith finally out grew the name "Other" Steve Smith when he caught 107 passes. Smith is a Cowboy killer and we all know this. Expect him to make the clutch 3 and 10 catch to keep the chains moving. Which is what makes him so dangerous.
Nicks had an average rookie season, but in 2010 hes emerged as one of the NFL's best. Hes already beat his rookie numbers in catches, touchdowns, and YPG. He will soon surpass his yards from a season ago. Smith now calls for double coverage and this opens Nicks up. Nicks has taken advantage of this and now leads the NFL in TD's at 9. He is a big guy. He is very physical at the point when he catches the ball and will break tackles. Nicks has big hands and if you leave him in 1 on 1 coverage in the red zone expect 6 to be on the board.
I'd like to thank DeSean Jackson for teaching me how to jerk (the dance he did vs. the Giants on SNF last year). Cowboys fans have seen Jackson make a of bonehead mistake like the fumble before the goal line on MNF and such. Jackson used to be just a speed guy, but this years hes been running better routes and this will make him an elite WR. You can always expect him to make a big play because he can out run your CB's and safeties. He averages around 17.5 YPG since his rookie year. He has 16 TD catches and aver 2,600 yards.
Top 5 Wide Outs in the NFC East?
1. Miles Austin
2. DeSean Jackson
3. Hakeem Nicks
4. Dez Bryant
5. Steve Smith
Honorable Mentions : Jeremy Maclin
In the next few seasons I think the top 4 of these will be top 10 WR's in the NFL. I think Dez has the most talent up there and many agree that he'll be a superstar very soon. Austin, Nicks, and Jackson will also be stars, but to a lesser degree. I like the Cowboys passing game for years to come. Be afraid NFL these NFC East WR's could becoming to a city near you.
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Cowboys fans have seen Jackson make tons of bonehead mistakes like the fumble before the goal line on MNF and such.
Let me fix that for you…
Cowboys fans have seen Jackson make tons of bonehead mistakes (one bonehead mistake in his NFL career).
There… fixed.
That was still an epic boneheaded play
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Equally boneheaded by the Cowboys, who didn’t pick up the ball, allowing the Eagles to score on the next play.
Agreed.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
We did pick up the ball but the play had been whistled over and they wouldn't
give the ball back to us
by somebodyquiet on Nov 16, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
I think now a days thats our ball.
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Stupid inadvertant whistle crap
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Thanks for reminding we had that tool on our team.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
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Fine. haha
Still we shut him down a ton last year. Hope the trend continues.
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Jenkins, Newman, and McCann better be up for the task
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Good write up
Although as a Cowboys fan, it pains me to say this, but I’d swap Jackson and Austin. As much as I love Miles Austin, DeSean Jackson is just too ridiculous a threat in that Eagles offense. He’s Devin Hester with hands, and more athleticism. Jackson gives me a heart attack every time I watch an Eagles-Cowboys game, the only other receivers who used to do this to me were Jerry Rice, TO, Steve Smith of the Panther, and Randy Moss (in no particular order).
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Nope no way never
Where was jax the three games against us last year. Exactly no where. He’s a one trick pony, albeit a great one trick but nonetheless still one trick. Jax could never do what austin or andre does
Austin over him everyday and twice on sunday.
by thebigham on Nov 16, 2010 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree bigham.
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Jackson had plenty of opportunities to make plays against us
All he needs is QB who can get him the ball and not throw at his knees like Doughboy did last season. The reason we “shut down” Jackson is because we got to McNabb.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Coverage wasn't that bad.
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McNabb was off on plenty of his throws to DeSean
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
I’ll agree that Jackson didn’t exactly light up the Cowboys specifically, but judging a player against how he did against your team rather than evaluating the entire body of work is a little obtuse. For example, during the regular season last year DeMarcus Ware had 5 tackles and no sacks against the Eagles, but I’m smart enough to know he’s an elite defender. Eventually, in the playoffs Ware got his, just as I expect Jackson to eventually get his against Dallas.
DeSean is fast, but he’s not strong.
The reason he lit it up yesterday was because the ’Skins were giving him free releases off the line, a big mistake.
This is also true
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Wrong. On the 88 yard TD DeAngelo Hall tried to jam Jackson, but there’s more than one way to beat a jam. There’s the Michael Irvin way, which is to simply punish the corner that’s trying to jam you – effective. Or if you have the ungodly quickness of DeSean Jackson, you can simply juke your way past the jam – equally effective. If you’re a corner and you whiff, it’s all over.
So while I agree that DeSean Jackson won’t be winning any arm wrestling contests anytime soon, I’ll pose the question… Who cares?
I like this comment
On the 88 yard TD DeAngelo Hall tried to jam Jackson
Dude is so damn fast and elusive it seemed like it was a free release
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
I just went back and watched the play, you’re right he did try to jam DeSean but it was a lazy jam.
He was too busy looking inside at Mike Vick expecting a run or bootleg because of the formation.
Don’t get me wrong, I like DeSean but I think his size is going to catch up to him eventually, he reminds me of a less physically imposing Randy Moss. And you’re going to get Jackson killed if you try to have him go across the middle. Dude is tiny.
I’m not sure how many guys would only miss one game after the hit he took. Tough kid. I don’t buy the whole “fragile thing.”
I wouldn’t send him over the middle too often, mentally he can be tough as nails but he’s just not very big.
I’m not saying he’s a bad wide receiver, but that he’s not a complete wide receiver and there’s a blue print out there to shut him down.
Unfortunately, it’s going to be really hard to employ that blue print while Mike Vick is scrambling around in the backfield.
I know.
I know Jackson is at least top 2 in the NFC and is a top 5 WR in the NFL the last few seasons. Maybe top 6 if I’m forgetting someone.
1. Andre
2. Calvin
3. Brandon Marshall
4. Miles Austin
5. DeSean Jackson
I like Austin’s route running better than Jackson’s. As a I said though from what I’ve seen D-Jax is improving that.
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d-jax is not a top 5 wide receiver
way overrated there.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
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I think you're underrating...
Roddy White.. alot.
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Err...Larry Fitzgerald?.
Davie Wilson
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by scotscowboyfan on Nov 19, 2010 2:22 AM CST up reply actions
I was simply pointing out that he is a one trick pony
He’s Randy Moss without the height and leaping advantage. And he can’t do what steve smtih of the panthers does which is excellent route running.
Hes good, for now, but Cowboys found a way to stop him.
And for the guy who said its because Mcnabbs gone and he finally has Vick to throw deep to him well then that proves even more he’s a one trick pony. Its ok right now the Eagles got a good thing going.
agreed, he's a one trick pony
who can beat you running, on special teams or as a receiver.
If speed is his only game, I’m just not sure that’s a bad game to have
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I know I know.
But speed alone doesnt last long, steve smith makes with his great route running.. and other WRs have size.
He’s good now but unless he learns a new trick 3 years from now he’ll be done.
Mac is the real threat.
people hate on DJax b/c the only time they see him
are the highlight reels where he’s going deep.
It’s true that he doesn’t do much across the middle (but we have Avant and Celek for that), but he runs great routes along the sideline, and most of his balls are just quick releases that go for a simple first down and out of bounds.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Nope no way never
Where was jax the three games against us last year. Exactly no where. He’s a one trick pony, albeit a great one trick but nonetheless still one trick. Jax could never do what austin or andre does
Austin over him everyday and twice on sunday.
by thebigham on Nov 16, 2010 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like Miles over DeSean
mainly because I love Miles’ bigger size. His heroics in that Chiefs game still make me smile.
by somebodyquiet on Nov 16, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Just cause I rank Miles right behind DeSean doesn't mean I'd rather have DeSean over Miles
I loved that Chiefs game performance last year
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
im glad somebody touched on this
really the NFC’s Pro Bowl WR’s besides Roddy White and Megatron are in the NFC East
actually besides Andre 3000 all the best WR’s reside in the NFC now
Harvin is no joke either
its funny because I wanted Harvin I wanted Hakeem Nicks and was so pissed we traded for Roy Williams who if we waited until the end of that season could of gotten dirt cheap Detroit was done with him and moving on lets say 2nd rd pick to be genorous
anyway we didnt get Nicks or Harvin and I kept hearing Dez Bryant Dez Bryant is going to fall to the Cowboys I said no f’n way he is a freak he wont fall past 20 at the LATEST its insane to think that then draft night which I will never forget I watched every pick fly by and im like man somebody has to take Dez Bryant right? my friend is a Giants fan and I could tell he was getting nervous, because lets face it Dez is a beast and right now a Giant killer
so the Broncos are up and im like ok there goes Dez, and they take Demarius Thomas who I still dont know why they did this, its like if Jesus or Mother Theresa were on the board they were going with them instead of this Judas evil evil black magic Dez Bryant
so im like wow maybe I should of follwed more Dez Bryant coverage this April, not that I needed to I loved him since his freshman year
then New England does the most humane thing ever, f’n over a rival the Ravens
because the Ravens would of taken Dez to pair with Boldin omg that would be sick
thats why they traded out of the 1st rd right aftter that trade went down
its funny because the Pats have a video of Bellicheck calling Ozzie Newsome just to let him know we were trading for him lmfao
then I the commish comes up and the rest of history
easily the best draft moment ever for me and a night I will never forget
Dez is my favorite player all time
by Archie Barberio on Nov 16, 2010 7:00 PM CST reply actions
sorry for the long post
Dez gets me pumped up
so I ask my friend what do you think? “well its a OK pick” im like bro seriously be honest and hes like “yeah wtf do you want me to say I wanted him myself he is a f’n beast and I gotta play him the rest of his career 2 times a year just what Romo needed another weapon”
so I was like damn man chill
lmfao then he trys to attempt to defend the JPP pick but deep down you could tell his 2010 draft high was over when Dez was picked
2nd rd wasnt pleased with a DT either, still didnt get that move by Reese who is a great GM
by Archie Barberio on Nov 16, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
It’s O.K. Chia, I completely empathize .. I just made a similar comment on the main page.
LOVE ME SOME DEZ BRYANT GO COWBOYS!
hell yeah G Swag
I like your style mane
by Archie Barberio on Nov 16, 2010 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
I've been meaning to ask, what does G_SWAG mean?
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
I figured it was something along those lines
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Living in NY.
My friend already knows Dez is going to be a superstar. He actually said to me today “I like him, but its hard to when he scores on us so much already.”
I love Romo, Ware, Witten, Austin, and Dez.
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I'm originally from NJ
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
that was a good draft class for first round WRs
I think all teams are happy with their picks of:
Percy Harvin, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks, and Kenny Britt
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Heyward-Bey?
:D jk
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. " ~Rogers Hornsby
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Dez is a BEAST!!!!!!!
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Dez is a BEAST!!!!!!!
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Dez is so awesome that you had to say it Twice Rohpuri?
Just messing with you though I completely agree with you. When ever I need a smile this year I simply go to the Story that Occ put out when we Drafted him. You know the one where he lists what the other teams said when We drafted Dez? always makes me smile….everytime
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by Tracer Bullet on Nov 14, 2010 5:02 PM EST
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Nov 16, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Steve Smith is one of the most overrated WR in the league. He had a good year last year but in the future everyone will be pointing to it like they do Roy’s 2006 season as the exception.
Manningham is better, and Nicks is completely out this world.
As far as 3rd WR’s go ini the league, I think Roy Williams is one of the best and certainly better than Steve Smith.
In 8 games
Steve Smith had 47 catches, Mario Manningham had 25 before shredding Dallas in his 9th game for 10 catches. I know your fondness for Roy so let’s ignore that, but seriously, how can you even say Mario is better than Steve? That’s crazy.
Because they both are mediocre at best...
It’s like saying Deion Branch is better than Houshmandzadeh. You could argue all day but neither of them are elite.
Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, and Roy Williams all have something in common. They are not elite receivers and they are good 2nd/3rd options.
I think you are comparing two differently type of receivers.
Smith isn’t a #1 WR.
But I do think he is an elite #2 WR/Slot WR
He runs crisp routes has good speed and great hands.
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of course I am comparing two different types of receivers...
That’s what this post is all about.
That’s why the initial post is comparing possession receivers to slot receivers to pure speed demons like DJax.
And elite #2 just sounds oxymoronic…
Aha, I was about to say. How do you define an elite #2 – I guess we’ll have that question in Dallas soon :]
My definition is that he takes advantage of one on one coverage
on a consistent basis, which Smith does.
He was even more of a #1 WR last year while Nicks and the rest were getting used to the climate of the NFL.
I don’t love the guy, I just think that he’s a player I’d rather not play 2 times a year.
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There was a post before the season similar to this
where I was posting with a GIants fan who said Nicks/Smith reminds him of Smith/McCardell, which is pretty accurate. I don’t know who you would call the #1 there, but the other definitely was one of the best #2WRs in the league.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that, is all.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
...
and catching… and running after the catch.
Steve Smith is a joke. Anybody can torch the Dallas secondary and thats who he got 1/4 of his stats from last year.
I’ll take Roy over a little 5’11" dude for my 3rd WR position any day.
Desean Jackson didn't torch them last year...
Steve Smith Carolina didn’t torch them
Maques Colston didn’t torch them.
Smith isn’t a #1 WR, but he does what is asked of him, picks up 1st downs and is a reliable pass catcher. To say he is a joke is pretty ridiculous.
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He just got lucky ;)
I’m never going to give NYG Steve Smith any credit.
It’s my opinion that he will fade away in the next 2-3 years like every other mediocre receiver who puts together a good year followed by a bunch of average ones. At least Roy has the height to be effective in the Red Zone.
I mean has this year been an average year for him though?
He was on pace for 1100 yards 6 tds and over 90 catches before getting hurt.
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I guess..
what makes him mediocre in your eyes is what I don’t get?
Is he a true #1, nope. But he has good acceleration, great hands, and runs crisp routes.
Its not like this was a 6th round pick we’re talking about, he was high second rounder that went to USC so maybe he isn’t just mediocre.
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He's mediocre because he plays for the Giants
Duh!
Nicks/Manningham is a better combo IMO.
Not saying he is a horrible receiver, and maybe mediocre is a bad word, but he is hardly an ELITE #2 (whatever that means) or an elite slot receiver. He is a great 3rd WR option, or maybe #2 if you don’t have better options.
Plenty of room for homerism here
I do think Dez and Miles are the best duo here…
But I’m not going to act as if I’m unhappy with DeSean and Maclin.
I actually have been having this conversation over at Big Blue View, and they’ll argue for Hakeem Nicks over everyone…so it just seems like everyone’s pretty fat and happy in the WR department.
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Well...
I think Nicks is the best WR right now.
Dez could come up and take that from him in the future, but right now that guy is a beast… when he isn’t stuttering in the end zone getting picked off by a UDFA Rookie.
But, really, I don’t think many teams can compare to Miles, Roy, Dez, and Witten.
I think Nicks is the best WR right now.
That’s my issue, really. Yes, right now he has the best stats. But he’s not the fastest guy, and he has more than his share of drops.
When I think of the best WR, I’m not looking at stats alone, I’m thinking of the guy I would most want on my own personal all-star team…right now I’d team up Dez Bryant and DeSean Jackson…one to stretch the field and the other to catch every ball that comes to him and just stiff arm defenders to the ground as he runs for 30 yards after the catch
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he's not the fastest..but he's fast
he drops balls, but he’s got as good of hands as any.
But one thing he is, is he IS the best route runner among everyone in the division. Better then that SS12 fella that plays in NJ too.
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Over the past few years.
Like two at least give Miles and DJax some creds over Nicks.
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I think this list is more like:
1. Miles – Runs with great power after the catch. Questionable hands
2. Nicks – The Giants version of Dez Bryant
3. Dez – Great hands, vision, leaping ability, power, and deceptive speed after the catch
4. DeSean – Great deep ball receiver, electrifying speed. Could improve his route running and lacks the size to go through the middle of the field.
5. Smith (NYG): The new Cowboy killer. Runs great routes, and is the best slot receiver in the NFC.
Just my opinion.
Nicks is slower than every reciever on this list (except thier own Steve Smith)
and he drops his share of balls.
He’s unquestionably a stud, but I don’t think he would start over Miles or Dez if he came to the Cowboys. He could probably start over Maclin if he came to the Eagles, but that’s more indicative of the fact that we don’t have a big hands type possession receiver…it’s not that we’re unhappy with Maclin.
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It is hard to rate them...
or rank them.
I think that the Giants are the best three deep as far as WR’s go.
I like Dallas as far as size/speed goes
The fastest duo has to be Jackson/Maclin though.
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Best combo's in the NFL.
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MFY fan.
and the unbiased opinion award goes to.....
Iron Fist! good job, and obviously, i agree. we have the best trio in the BEast. if RW wasn’t so cocky and actually worked at his craft, given Dez’s emergence, i’d prolly hand that title over to you guys. Avant as philly’s third option makes there trio the worse.
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So would you say we have the top 1 - 2 duo?
by RisingSunCowboy on Nov 18, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
there's a lot of hate for Avant outside of Philly
and the only reason I can think of is that people don’t know him.
The guy doesn’t drop ANYTHING. Not kidding…he leads receivers in our entire division in catch% related to targets at 73.8% (31 catches to 42 targets). In fact, there are only 4 receivers above him on this list. (Collie, Davone Bess, Mike Thomas, and Jordan Shipley)
Dez Bryant is next in the division at 69.5% (with 41 receptions at 59 targets)
Manningham is third at 67.3%
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no hate for Avant
i respect the fact that he’s ultra reliable, with his hands. he’s just underwhelming in every other way. not a deep threat, not a big YAC guy, he’s a lunch pail type. a poor man’s wayne chrebet it you will. but if you put him up against the other third receivers, i think he comes in last. that’s not a knock on him, i’d welcome him on our team, but he’d be 4th at best.
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kinda how I feel about Smith
great hands…great route runner. Not that fast, not too strong.
I’d welcome him on our team, but he’d take Avant’s spot at #3
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I like Avant
but not as much as Manningham for the Giants. Not a slap at Avant, I just think Manningham is really good.
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Chad Henne would agree.
I still remember sitting at home praying the Cowboys would draft the slipping Manningham.
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If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
I honestly think Manningham is good enough...
to be a #2 on most teams. I don’t think that Avant is, that’s the main difference in those two players to me.
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I totally agree.
Every time Manningham has been the Giants #2 since the beginning of last year I feel like he has done a very good job.
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you're right
you see what he did last week in the abscence of SS12. his route running has improved drastically since last season.
kind of scares me tho, when his contract is up, he might go elsewhere looking to start.
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Yeah
You’re probably right. Ramses Barden is probably wanting a chance to get in there at some time or another too.
Honestly the Giants probably will try to trade him before that happens to try and get some value out of him.
Depending on the progress of Barden, I think that the Giants should really consider trading him next year, they probably could get a return of a late 2nd rounder or a 3rd and later pick.
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If Manningham had better hands..
he would be a terror.
no
only because Bryant is still a rookie. so it’s sort of an unfinished painting. But if he keeps up this pace, come next year, i think it will be the consensus league wide.
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Hakeem Nicks is ahead of every NFC East WR in terms of catches, yards and TDs
…THAT…is all.
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So?
I’m basing this off the past few seasons and talent. Which gets Dez to 4th.
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for a part of one season
yup…this is a good season for him
last season, you would say the same about Smith…
there’s a lot more behind a guy than stats…QB, OLine, run game…all those things go together to form the actual production on the field.
Nicks also has a lot more targets than other guys…which screams to me that maybe he’s on a team without too many other weapons…sure, Smith is fine, and Bradshaw’s awesome, but no one else on that whole offense is scaring anybody.
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Agreed.
Plus our o-line is sorta terrible. But we have nice WR’s.
I like DJax, but I think he should improve his route running.
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MFY fan.
not a lot of 3rd WRs scare anyone
but Manningham is as close as you’ll get to that.
Boss doesn’t have a ton of catches, but he makes big plays.
Nicks’ targets are actually more of a product of teams shading towards Steve Smith…just like Manningham’s 10 catches on Sunday afternoon were a result of teams shading towards Nicks.
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that is true most of the time
but this team has no lack of weapons. on the other side of Nicks is a 100 catch, 1200 yard guy one season removed. behind both of them is a 750+ yards, 6+ TD guy one season removed. on the end of our line is a 6’7" guy with reliable hands who can put up 500 yards of receiving any year. and behind Bradshaw is the most absurdly sized running back in the league, who avg. 4.5 yards per, and has 45 TDs in his career.
to me, that seems like a full chamber.
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I cursed and screamed when the Eagles drafted Jackson
and I jumped for joy when the Cowboys drafted Dez.
Neither Maclin nor Nicks, although both great receivers, bothered me much when they were drafted at the time.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 18, 2010 1:59 PM CST reply actions
Well I love Dallas Wr's
Miles is the most complete wr and Dez is a Beast right now and don’t even know the play book so look out everyone when he do!!!! I Like Nicks and Jackson both r playmakers but I don’t like them over Miles and Dez!!!!!!!!! Let me ask if u can have two wr’s who would it be out of the NFC East? Mine is Miles N Dez Just want to say wuzup to Jeterian 2
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I'd probably take
Dez and DeSean…
nobody stretches the field like DeSean, he’s in a league of his own in that category. If he were teamed with a guy that was good for 8-10 possessions (like Miles or Dez) that team would be SCARY!!!
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I'd take Nicks and Jackson
Nicks is the best route runner and best target in the red zone out of all of them. Best hands as well (lack of concentration leads to the drops). Jackson is the most dynamic playmaker with the rock.
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I disagree.
Miles runs some of the best routes in the league. Nicks stunt last week cost Eli an interception and the Giants 7 points. Just my opinion. I know it sounds like I’m basing it on one play, but I see Miles every week and he makes nice cuts on runs nice routes.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. " ~Rogers Hornsby
MFY fan.
Well you're basing it on one play....
and Austin uses his size, strength and speed instead of actually running routes. From what I’ve seen he’s no different then Desean Jackson in that regard.
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DeSean is not as strong as Miles.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. " ~Rogers Hornsby
MFY fan.
Miles and Dez.
No doubt. Miles is the best of the NFC East WR’s for now and Dez will be a freak of nature within a season or two.
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As a whole, I’d take Vick – Jackson – Maclin (+ a shoddy line) over Romo – Miles – Dez (+ a really shoddy line) right now. Hell, I’d take Eli + Nicks + Smith + a pretty good line over us right now too. If Romo had as much time to throw and as clean of a pocket as Eli we’d be at the top for sure, Miles and Dez are two legitimate super star #1s in this league that can run every route, make every catch, and get crazy Y.A.C. as well. The only thing about the Eagles is that Vick makes Jackson and Maclin extra dangerous because defenses have to really, really respect his ability to come out of the back field and dedicate extra personnel and resources that they normally wouldn’t have to. That buys enough time for Jackson to pull the double moves and go routes that he runs so well.
I’m not too worried about Mr. Vick for 2011 though, as broke as he is he’s going to have to take the biggest paycheck he can find rather than play for pride and stick with the Eagles after this season. There’s a reason he hasn’t signed a contract extension yet. On top of that Kolb + Jackson + Maclin (+ a shoddy line) aren’t going to be anywhere near as potent.
In summary, you have to remember that the wide receiver position hinges on a lot of factors outside of the players’ control. This year if you had Larry Fitzgerald as your go to wide out in fantasy football you’d probably be pretty disappointed, he’s 17th in the league with 603 receiving yards and tied for 25th (with a lot of people) at 4 touchdowns, but we all know he’s arguably one of the top three receivers in the game.
Or is he?
Maybe having Boldin on the other side and Warner throwing darts made him look better than he is?
I don’t know, there’s too many factors when it comes to wide receivers and in this era we’re seeing receivers that could honestly be interchangable.
Also of note, statistically speaking the NFC East receivers line up like this :
1. Hakeem Nicks (735 yards – 6th in the NFL)
2. Miles Austin (725 yards – 7th in the NFL)
3. Santana Moss (632 yards – 13th in the NFL)
4. DeSean Jackson (602 yards – 16th in the NFL)
5. Jeremy Maclin (585 yards – 21st in the NFL)
Honorable Mention:
Dez – (539 yards – 28th in the NFL)
You can easily make an argument to add in Roy William’s 366 yards to Dez though, seeing as how he took away targets my boy Dez deserved! Haha.
Actually I would Give Witten's REC/Yds to Dez/Roy
That is where the Extra REc/yds are going
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by Tracer Bullet on Nov 14, 2010 5:02 PM EST
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Nov 19, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
no
fitz is amazing. His qbs are awful and he still impacts games. I saw a red zone play today where the Chiefs played him like a gunner – they had two on the LOS jamming him. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that before.
But I see your general point and agree.
Yeah,
And he accidentally got 5 TD’s this year, so that’s noteworthy, too.
Not to mention his clutch catches.
Not bad for the worst receiver in the history of the NFL.
Roy has been significantly better this year...
but I wouldn’t say he had too many clutch catches last year. He had a couple of nice 3rd down conversions in the playoff game, but he wasn’t great last year by any means.
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He was a threat in the red zone last year...
and continues to be one this year.
Is he overpaid? Hell yes.
Do I want to see him go? Hell no.
Dez/Austin/Williams will be an amazing trio for the next 5+ years.
Wooo there...
I’m not against Williams being a 3rd WR that can fill in as a #2.
I don’t know if contractually he’ll be able to stay with Dallas though. He is going to have to take a major cut in pay, because you really can’t pay a guy that much money for his role.
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I was kidding about RW,
but I’m pretty sure he’s gone after this year. I believe he thinks he gone too, because he’s made some smarta$$ remarks about Romo lately.
Lock n Load
We absolutely don’t need another tall, fast receiver. What we really need to take our offense to the next level is a true slot receiver with savvy route running and a quick change of direction.
Like a Danny Amendola perhaps?.
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by scotscowboyfan on Nov 19, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
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