Ask Revenge of the Birds
by JoeCB1991 on Dec 20, 2010 4:03 PM CST
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PrintHey Cowboys fans, Joe from Revenge Of The Birds here to do the question asking thread that all of these blogs like to do.
If there is anything you guys want to know about the Cardinals before this legendary Christmas matchup on Saturday, ask away and I (along with some other people from RotB) will answer it.
As for some basic stuff to know:
We can't stand Derek Anderson, and yes I think getting rid of Matt Leinart was a mistake.
Larry Fitzgerald is still a beast. He just needs a Quarterback that can actually get the ball close to him when they throw it.
The Cardinals have the same problem with throwing on almost every down that you guys had before Romo went down. Why draft someone like Beanie Wells in the first round (Tim Hightower isn't that bad either) if you aren't going to use him for anything?
With a good Quarterback, I think this team could be 8-6 or 9-5 right now. Horrible QB has just killed us this year. It makes me miss Kurt Warner more and more every day.
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Quarterback
Along with O-Line and a pass rushing OLB
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Hi Joe:
What’s the present consensus on John Skelton. Didn’t follow him much . Is there any potential ?
He has some potential
Fitz had 9 catches for 125 yards yesterday, including a 41 yarder. His stats would also look better if some perfectly thrown balls weren’t dropped.
I still think they need to draft a QB, but Skelton is a guy who I think can develop into at least a decent QB.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Meh.
And the Cowboys didn’t throw all the time because of want but because of need. The Oline suckkks.
What about boldin? Mistake?
The O-Line here sucks too.
I wish Boldin could have stayed, but I honestly think he would have been gone after this season no matter how much he was making. He was mad at the organization for a while, he wanted out, and he got to go to a good team.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
what do u think about Tony Romo as a Qb & the way Kitna has taken over?
Also i saw a few star players of the cardinals jump ship … Is there a issue with the Gm and players? or is it something else?
Kitna has been impressive since Garrett took over
Romo is pretty good, but he needs to win more games in the Playoffs before he can be great.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
As for the players jumping ship...
The owners being cheap is part of it.
Dansby and Rolle were offered almost the same thing they got from their new teams, but they also released Rolle because of his contract and hoped to resign him, and Dansby just seems like a guy who plays for a bigger contract. Good players, but right now they are vastly overpaid. Paris Lenon has done a good job taking Dansby’s place (Daryl Washington, our second round draft pick is looking good too), and Kerry Rhodes has been an upgrade over Rolle.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Idk who it is, but PFF grades one of your ILB’s HORRIBLY and grades Washington well, so I think you should start the young fella there.
Either Lenon or Hayes there
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
What do you think of a possible change to a 4-3?
You have very good ends that I think could function in a 4-3, Dan Williams on the bench (PFF has been saying he shouldn’t be), and horrible pass-rushing OLB’s. What do you reckon?
They were actually playing some 4-3 in the Panthers game and it worked out pretty well.
The problem is that the OLBs don’t fit in with the 4-3 very well.
I think that a D-Line made up of Alan Branch, Darnell Dockett, Dan Williams, and Calais Campbell would work out pretty well, but the Linebackers are a question mark.
Dan Williams is also getting plenty of time on the field even though he isn’t the starter, and he does look like he is the answer for this team at Nose Tackle.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I was hoping Dallas would take Williams and move Ratliff to DE
5-11 versus 6-10
I wonder how much difference that will make in the order for round 1?
Anyway, what’s up with DRC?
Do you think AZ would draft Locker or Mallett?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
No idea what is going on with DRC
He is very inconsistent.
I would prefer Locker, but Mallet is the more likely pick.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
What?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
You guys are picking 4th
And Locker is probably behind both Newton (if he comes out) and Mallett. Why your preference for Locker? is it because you watch more pac 10 than sec perhaps?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Mixed him up with Luck
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Never mind I misread that
I still wrote Locker but I thought it was Luck.
I’m fine with both of them, and I prefer Mallet. I would take Locker over Newton in a heart beat though, don’t really see him as someone who will be good in the NFL.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Dan Williams is also getting plenty of time on the field even though he isn’t the starter,
Arizona is something like 27th in defensive pass efficiency. How’s Dan Williams helping with the pass rush?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
I don't always notice these things
But it seems like when Williams is on the field, he does a better job opening up some holes in the offensive line so the blitzers have more room to get to the Quarterback or the Running Back than Bryan Robinson, the starter who is currently 36.
I have no idea why Dan Williams isn’t the starter.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Can you guys believe this game
was created by a first place schedule? January seems like a long time ago now. Good Luck Saturday. Winner gets bragging rights. Loser probably gets the better pick.
I'm fine with the better pick at this point
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Deal. I'll take bragging rights every time. ;)
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Is Grimm a HC in waiting?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think he has done a poor job coaching the O-Line
As I mentioned before, they have not played well this year. Can’t run block, can’t pass block. Warner hid a lot of problems.
As a head coach though, I think he would be better at that. Seems like a good leader.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Idk, I think they are def better run-blockers than pass-blockers, but they may be the worst pass-blocking line in the league lol.
No doubt about that
Levi Brown is a horrible Left Tackle.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Is there an active campaign
To be overly hostile to cowboys fans on Christmas day? Last meet up in Glendale seemed much more hostile than usual (I live in Phoenix) and then I learned that it was because the local radio stations were drumming up tensions between the two factions. Hard to believe really, considering that if your residence in Arizona predates the Cardinals, you’re probably a Cowboys fan.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Not that I have heard
I can understand why since a lot of Cardinals fans hate the Cowboys, and some of us remember the days at Sun Devil Stadium where for some games there would be more Cowboys fans than Cardinals fans.
There was also a guy wearing a Miles Austin jersey a couple feet away from me when I went to the Denver game a week ago.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Interesting signature--not liking bandwagon fans
Guess you don’t like many cardinals fans?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
I get fed up with all of the people who keep jumping on and off the bandwagon
I don’t like some of the fans that just jump onto the bandwagon for the big name teams either, especially when that team doesn’t even play close to where the guy lives. You can probably guess that I was really satisfied when the Heat lost a bunch of games in a row.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I'm a Heat fan.
Pre LeBron era.
2003.
But I love baseball and football a bit more and basketball.
"Don't give up, don't ever give up."
I have no problem with that
But the people who leached on after they got the new big three tend to annoy me.
I have rooted for Arizona and Chicago teams (because like my sig says, my dad is from there) all my life, although it is mainly the Arizona teams, and I am going to stick with that. Even when they suck.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I'm from NY, but growing up
my dad wasn’t a Knicks or Nets fan. So Wade was my favorite player and I chose the Heat.
I love the Yankees and Cowboys more than any other teams. Jets(2nd fav football), Heat, Islanders, Syracuse athletics follow.
"Don't give up, don't ever give up."
I respect that.
"You have to have the fighting spirit. You have to force moves and take chances" (Bobby Fischer)
I guess...
But I don’t feel like I ever had a choice in the matter. I am a cowboys fan through and through and don’t feel like I have the choice to root for someone else just because my team sucks precisely because its an emotional thing you can’t just turn towards another team. I guess what I’m saying is that being true to one’s team isn’t something that should be applauded because if its a choice then I wonder if you are truly a fan.
I was raised a cowboys fan in the middle of PA—so this douche would probably label me a bandwagon fan because I root for a big name team and live nowhere near them. But for us poor kids, football was a television event—i grew up 120 miles from Pittsburgh but the possibility of seeing a live game there was the same as seeing a live game in Texas Stadium.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Dont worry about it
Haters gonna hate. Cowboys fan in South Central PA. Im like in the center vortex of Philly, DC, Balt, Pitt fans! UGH. If you stick with them during the tough times thats all that matters.
Like you said I don’t feel like I have a choice either. It never crosses my mind. I just don’t understand the rule that you have to like who is closest. I’d rather be a bandwagoner than a lemming
Don't think Joe'd include you in "bandwaggoner"
just because of the location/big-name thing. Could be wrong, but I didn’t read his comments to be intended that way. More like when it’s that together with switching teams because of winning titles and such. You know, fair-weather “fans”.
So, no offense, if I’m right, the “douche” comment’s unwarranted.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
I politely disagree
Its warranted. Perhaps you’d have to live amongst the cardinals fans to see that that statement is indeed directed at area cowboys fans.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Could be
It’s a maybe, maybe not from where I sit. I neither live in the area nor know you, Joe or your histories. Tonal inflections are lost online and there’re good/bad fans everywhere.
All my comment was saying was that I didn’t read anything in them that made him a “douche”. Benefit of doubt based on the loyalty factor, that despite location you’ve maintained yours to the Cowboys through ups and downs, not shifted allegiances. Combined with “bandwaggoning” having nothing to do with location and, in fact, being a location-independent phenomena. If Card fans in Phoenix area, or any fans anywhere, equate the two they’re simply being illogical.
Like I said, I could be mistaken, what with not being in your shoes and having your perspective/sensititivies with respect to the subject.
Unless and until Joe clearly states his intent in his remark, specifically with respect to you and your situation, we’ll remain in mutual polite disagreement.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
It is the switiching to teams that are winning or just watching all of the big name teams
If someone is brought up as a Cowboys fan in Pennsylvania by their family, fine. Now, lets say that you grew up somewhere pretty far away from Texas like where you are now, and your family is a fan of the local team, but it is during the time when the Cowboys were dominant in the 90s and you just decide to become a Cowboys fan because they are winning a lot, that would get the label.
And as mentioned above, some people in Arizona who have lived there all their life along with their parents who are fans of the Cowboys, Yankees, Heat, etc. That would also get it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
So...
Speaking to your second paragraph, so someone who lives in Arizona and was a Colts fan before the Cards moved to Phoenix gets labelled a “bandwaggoner” ? Or to use your team namings, they were a Cowboys fan, then the Cards come to Phoenix and they stay a Cowboys fan, just because they’re not rooting for the local team they’re a “bandwaggoner”? What about a ’Skins fan in Dallas (since Texas was once ’Skins territory), then the Cowboys come into being and the guy stays a ’Skins fan instead of switching to the Cowboys and get a “bandwaggoner” label for it?
Surely you mean, someone who jumps from team to team depending on who’s doing good (winning) or popular at the time, right? Regardless of where they live, if there’s a local team or not, all those other considerations.
Sorry, man, otherwise it just doesn’t make sense to me.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Dad raised me on
The Yankees, Cowboys, and Islanders.
I chose the Heat because of Wade when they lost to the Pistons in the East conf. finals.
Jets when I went to games as a kid.
You I'd have a beer with. My tab.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Hey Joe
What do the Cards fans think of LaRod?? He’s from my hometown, graduated my both my high school and college alma maters and an acquaintance of mine. Back home, everyone thinks he’s doing great given his size limitations. I personalize think he’ll develop into a Darren Sproles kind of back. I try to watch him play anytime the Cowboys aren’t playing.
Do you think he has a shot of making the pro bowl this season as a returner??
In Romo we Trust
i would think
Desean goes as a WR. but “Hyphen” (LaRod) seems to be having a bigger impact on
special teams then hester.
by howboutdemcowboyz on Dec 21, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Hester gets in on name only
Plus he broke the record and such. IF Desean is up for WR, you got fitzy, roddy, nicks? IDK i cant think right now
I was hoping he would
But with the year D-Jax and Hester are having it won’t happen.
Most of us on RotB feel like he has been the best player on the team (or one of the best) this season, and he seems to have a big play almost every week.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
thats good to hear
I remember watching him in high school and he seemed to have an explosiveness and second gear that was special enough for the NFL.
Had the opportunity to talk with him on several occasions when he comes back home in the off season and he’s a really nice, well mannered kid, nice to see good things happening to a really good person.
In Romo we Trust
so he is not an arrogant punk, right?
Lifelong Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
Watch alot of Cardinals
living in Arizona. But in Card fan’s opinion, what/who are some suprises this year?
And what has been the biggest disappointment? O-line, Defense, QB play, Running Game?
Going to the game on Christmas! First time getting to watch the Boys in person!
Wooooo!
by howboutdemcowboyz on Dec 21, 2010 5:09 PM CST reply actions
Lets just go over this disappointments
QB play
Offensive Line
Defense
Running Game
All of those things that you mentioned are huge disappointments. Before the year began, I thought that the Quarterback would just need to be average, and that the ground game would be better this year, and that the Defense would be able to help keep this team in games. I was expecting a 9-7 record and to at least be competitive in the NFC West. Dead wrong.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Oh, so same as ours, minus the QB part
Though our going to the run more lately shows it needn’t have been a disappointment.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
tough season bro
but the Cardinals imo have alot of pieces in place
Beanie and Hightower are a good duo, Fitz is a beast, your DL is your best strength imo with all that depth, Williams at NT is going to be a great player, Dockett is a beast straight up and he plays mean, Campbell continues to get better (I follow the U players im a fan of the U) you got DRC, who is having a off year but is still a great corner
secondary is shaky, you need another CB opposite of DRC, would of been your first pick if not for a need for a QB, Rhodes is a good player I live in NY and I wanted us to get him badly ILB needs work, but Darryl Washington from TCU was a nice nice draft pick man I really thought Williams and Washington were great value draft picks I love both of those players
need another S thats overall how I feel about the Cardinals, and a QB is a big big need man
should be a good game, no road game is easy in the NFL but I really think we should dominate this game because of who is playing QB for you guys
its obvious your going QB rd 1 but who would you say in rds 2 and 3? OL OLB CB gotta be needs right?
does Hightower run well against a 3-4? how does your offense pair up against a 3-4? same for your defense? and what WR do you think will give us trouble besides Fitz? a guy like Breaston and Duecet are good slot WR’s imo again you got alot of pieces in place man, just need a QB a pass rusher
by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions
Offensive Line or Outside Linebacker
Greg Toler is in his first year as a starter at Cornerback and he has been good for most of the year. Great tackler too.
Hightower runs well when the offensive line actually opens holes for him, he has improved a lot since 2008.
It looks like Doucet will be out, he had some kind of hip injury and he was carted off the field, but the 3rd round pick Andre Roberts who is returning Punts and playing as the 4th Receiver has played very well since the Vikings game after struggling before then. Breaston is also a solid #2.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
You said above.
Dan Williams is also getting plenty of time on the field even though he isn’t the starter,
Arizona is something like 27th in defensive pass efficiency. Is Dan Williams helping with the pass rush?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 22, 2010 8:55 AM CST reply actions
Joe, don't have a question...
Just wanted to say it’s always a pleasure to have fans like you over. Knowledgeable guys willing to answer our questions and engage in some game/team talk. More so when the loyalty and passion for their team’s combined with a love for the sport, the game.
Thanks for doing this. Best of the Season to you.
Hoping for a best of the season from both our squads come Saturday night so we can put this Christmas to bed with an enjoyable, interesting and well-fought game.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
No problem
All of the communities at SBN are pretty good, so I don’t mind doing it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team(s), throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Congratulations, Joe
Santa gave me just the gift I’d asked for. An enjoyable, interesting and well-fought game.
Even this lump of coal in the stocking toe. With the right pressure, I see a diamond.
Again, congrats. Hope you enjoyed it too.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Joe yeah man class act all the way I commend that
love Dan Williams loved that pick last year that late in the draft
by Archie Barberio on Dec 24, 2010 5:42 PM CST reply actions
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