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Crack Hits: Volume 1

We begin a new series today, Crack Hits. Crack Hits will be a weekly series on observations, thoughts, and the future of the Dallas Cowboys. I have covered what basic fundamentals in the hits series Back to basics, now I would like to weekly address BTB nation. We start this week with our win over the Redskins, Anthony Spencer, DC options and general observations made this week. Ok lets get Crack Hits smokin'.

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As we came into Sunday's game most of us, including myself, thought the Dallas Cowboys would put up points and win an easy game. Points we scored and win we did, but it was far from easy. The beginning of the game had that feeling where I knew we would win the game no matter what, but the defense again was not comforting at all. A guy I made a point to watch was our beloved OLB Anthony Spencer. On almost every defensive series I payed attention to #93 on the edge and watched him. What I observed is basically what I have seen all season. He isn't the "unblockable" player we saw last year and the guy Jason Witten said was damn hard to block. He did maintain pressure driving his man back but never found a way to spin off or overpower his man to get to the QB. I did notice he still has that nice burst off the line that we all know he has, but really I think he lacks the overall moves necessary to become a good pass rusher. He has a spin and a bull rush, that's about it folks. What's really troubling is Charles Haley came to Valley Ranch this summer and had a session with all the LB's and DL. If you want to see this video check out the mothership, anyway when I watched that video I noticed a lot of technique on handwork and placement. One would think he would have picked up more moves and better technique from a great pass rusher. I also saw Spencer drop into coverage and moved around quite a bit, which since Coach P has taken over we have seen a general sense of creativity that our "defensive guru" Wade lacked. I thought Spencer did a good job on his run assignments and dropping into coverage, and on a few plays did beat his man nearly sacking Grossman.

But a 1st rd pick with just 3 sacks is alarming, especially after a year in which Peter King calls you an All Pro OLB. Spencer finished the game with 2 tackles and a PD. I wouldn't say he had a bad game, but its another one of those games where he just was not dominant and didnt make enough big plays. Compared to other OLB's, especially in a 3-4, Spencer as a 1st rd pick could be labeled a BUST. I mentioned that the other day in a fanpost comment. Maybe I was a little overboard there. But when I take a pass rusher in the 1st rd, I want production, I want constant sacks and pressure. Spencer is either a bust or the player we saw last year that was dominat. I am going to give Spencer a pass for the year, because he is a great athlete with good size and great first step, which is very important in a edge rusher. What Spencer has to do is work, work hard this offseason. Work on your craft, hone that craft and be more creative. Work out with DeMarcus Ware, a man who now has five 10-sack seasons in a row. If Spencer comes to this next upcoming training camp motivated, in shape, and learning new moves for his pass rushing skills, I think Spencer can jump back to where he was in 2009. But its not going to be easy Anthony, hard work pays off, ask DeMarcus Ware. Because you know what Anthony, a guy who comes with his A game is Victor Butler. Butler shows he can get to the passer, he gets it done with limited playing time. I still wonder why he was inactive last week, that pissed me off, but Victor Butler is a guy who has a future here no doubt, regardless if Spencer steps up or doesnt.

I think one area of this game that should be evident to Cowboy fans is exactly how good Miles Austin is, he is a big time WR. Why I emphasize this is because of Sam Hurd's play yesterday. Miles Austin got the same opportunity in 2009, vs the Chiefs. As a matter of fact the same WR missed that game that missed this one, Roy Williams. Hurd drops 2 TD's, 2 TD's Sam would have made you a somebody in this league maybe. Instead we all saw what we already knew, you're a #4 ST WR. Nothing wrong with that, but I've seen a lot of Miles hate going on and I think it is evident how hard it is to be a good player in this league, and I just found it funny that Sam Hurd was given the same opportunity as Miles yesterday, and the cream rises to the top.

Yes, we were stuffed on the goal line, maybe some play action would have been nice there because hey, playaction does work, especially when you're letting teams know you're dedicated to the run and have been running the same run plays in the redzone. But you gotta love that no matter what, Jason Garrett is sticking to the run. That right there is drawing the line in the sand. I can respect that because you're making a statement or at least attempting to. Garrett is going to get better with more games and time folks, time is experience in any aspect of life, even football. I also saw the creative side of Garrett which I have seen before. The return of the Wildcat that ran a handoff then a pitch back to Kitna who then hit Felix for about a 32 yard pass was beautiful. See, that's the Jason Garrett I know and love, if this guy continues to stick to the run, utilize his weapons, be creative, he will be a good head coach in this league. If you add in the fact that he is going to get a full offseason to implement his system of doing things, get a full free agency, a full draft, I expect him to be a great coach. With an adequate OL, and actually being able to run the football, man Garrett should be a good coach.

The old man just keeps getting it done, Jon Kitna continues to play his ass off. Thats about as much as I really can describe it. I love how he shows passion and acts like a badass, I really like. It wouldn't work for Romo, because thats not who Tony Romo is, and there is nothing wrong with that. Kitna continues to just play great football for a guy most of us thought would lead us to a 1 or 2 win season. I want to really thank Kitna for making this season watchable, because a backup QB playing this good is really nice to have when your season is done. What heart he has shown along with some athletic ability I thought was long gone. Kitna, I hope you're here next year, class act my man.

Jason Witten, man what a year this guy is having. His 7 TD's are best since 2007, maybe he is getting more involved in the offense since we lost Romo and Dez, but he needs to be the focal point. He runs amazing routes for a TE, has great hands, and he might be slow but he fights for extra yards. Witten has been a great player for us, I just hope he can be elite for a few more years because an elite TE opens the offense up. He really made the Redskins secondary look f'n stupid on his fakes. And to make things really sweet, DeAngelo "Burger Boy" Hall attempts to jump the route and Witten makes the catch, breaks the tackle, and scores a TD also marking his 600th reception, which by the way makes him the fastest TE to do that. What we need is to fix this OL and instead of having this guy in to block all the time, allow him to be a TE and go out for passes. Great game, Jason. When we needed a big play you made it.

Felix had a nice game, 70 yards rushing and 47 yards receiving, with TC adding 53 rushing and 31 receiving plus a TD. These 2 just fit, they are what it takes to win the NFL. Both are versatile enough to pound the rock and bounce it outside. Felix has the big play speed and TC has amazing vision, and that's a great duo. I was so glad Marion Barber was inactive. Now, I don't want players to be hurt, thats f'd up, but I just don't want Marion Barber taking any carries away from 2 better RB's, that simple. Felix again has gotten so much better this year in the pass catching department, because the old Felix never would have made that catch on the trick Wildcat play. In screens he looks so much better too, I think we got our Dallas Ray Rice going forward with Felix.

Bryan McCann, God, you gotta jump over or sidestep that punter SON! Come on dude, seriously. But great game for McCann too, he is the CB and return guy we really needed going forward. I couldn't believe we cut this guy and then got rid of Cletis Gordon too. I wanted to keep McCann so bad because of his 4.3 speed, that's serious speed folks. He is going to be good in the return game, and his hips and technique look good enough at corner where we could develop him into something. Baltimore f'd that up, thanks for that because McCann could start for the Ravens, dead serious.

Ah the defense, man it wasn't pretty yesterday especially when you give Rex Grossman over 300 yards and 4 TD's. Again I saw some good things, I thought Ware and Ratliff played good football. Scandrick continues to thrive under a new DC, now this is a man I bashed hard. I called Orlando, Jacques Reeves V2.0 and thats how bad he was this season. But the last 5 or 6 games, man, what a different player. He easily could have had a pick, maybe a pick 6 if he looks back for the football when Grossman tossed one to Anthony Armstrong toward the sideline. Regardless, Scandrick is thriving when blitzing, he is aggressive and physical for a smaller CB. Playing in zone he looks comfortable, even in man he is looking more and more comfortable. Scandrick has a future here folks, and I want to take the time to apologize to Orlando Scandrick, I am sorry. Now, Gerald Sensabaugh played a good game until he was knocked out with a concussion. He is injury prone, he really is. His pick was really a bad pass, like most of his picks this season. The sack was good football, but I expect these things out of my starting SS. A SS in the NFL is QB-like in the essence of calling out things. He doesn't like to do that, no matter how much the Cowboys brass BS's us. He had a good game, but let's not look over this game as a reason to retain Mr. Sensabaugh, he should not be retained. We need playmakers at SS and FS.

Alan Ball had a horrible game, he didnt let up big plays over the top, but he was still awful and I will be glad when that experiment ends. Brooking is not a great game either, that man is done. Its a shame Sean Lee got knocked out, because that boy can play football, he was born for it. It was alarming when I saw him down, then I read today he said " I dont even remember walking off the field". Boy, he had a hard concussion then, and I hope he is ok. Next year Lee has a starting job here, no question, and he is going to be good.

I really thought we did a good job in the run game, everyone kept their contain and stuffed their gaps. Ware owned Trent Williams a few times, Silverback got owned, boys. Ware is just a great man and I love his play. A down year and he still has what, 11.5 sacks? LOL, that's D-Ware for ya. Again a game we should have put away early in the game, the defense was swiss-cheese-like through the air. 2nd half and Newman makes a big play when we need it, but Terence Newman has me concerned, deeply. He is just getting beat too much, I pray he can play at a high level for another year. Mike Jenkins had a decent game, a holding penalty that for some reason he has become accustomed to doing, WHY do you hold the WR by the arm that far downfield? Just stop it Mike, come on bro. He is another guy like Spencer who needs to forget about this year and just work his ass off this offseason, because Jenkins is a great athlete and does have the talent, I saw a top CB last year, but this sophmore slump of sorts has been downright embarrasing for me, and I hope for him as well. Come back to work hard, and get back to your Pro Bowl level Mike, you can do it.

This week we saw saw fanposts on our next DC, a very good topic to discuss. Seems a lot of people want Rob Ryan from the Browns, well I'm going to try to be as realistic as possible. I don't think Rob Ryan would come here when his name is hot right now, maybe he could land a HC job, who knows. 2 guys I think would fit our system are Marv Lewis and Dom Capers. Let me start with Dom Capers because he has history with Garrett. From what I have read recently is that when Jason had jobs lined up, Capers was his DC in the wings. Capers runs a 3-4 and has GB's defense playing good football. Would fit in our system, knows Jerry and Jason, def a nice fit. Marv Lewis is going to get fired, and I feel bad for the man because truly I think that owner has never put him in a position to succeed there. I would love for him to come here, he just fits the bill. Ran a 3-4 before in Baltimore, and his personality just looks like it would click with Garrett. Marv is a nice guy, but I've seen him get pissed. People might think he is soft, but he is nothing like Wade soft, which by the way I never want to see in Dallas ever again. Norm and Dom would be the ideal guys for us. A guy who I think is off most peoples radar is Ron Rivera from San Diego, who again runs a 3-4. Rivera had a lot of success in Chicago, running a 4-3 and his defense in San Diego has always been a solid unit that gets turnovers. I would say he is a guy that should be on our radar.

Draft wise we sit I believe in the 8th spot. Still far out from the draft and I will be touching on that more and more as April approaches. Cam Jordan is still the guy I see falling to us 8th overall, and I would f'n love it. Next up is the Arizona Cardinals, a team we should EASILY beat, but we went to Arizona few years back with the similar attitude. Garrett and the 'Boys will roll into Arizona with the right attitude and we will win this game. Alright folks, Crack Hits Volume 1 is a wrap, thanks for reading and I will see you next time, please I welcome commenting and discussions below because nothing makes me happier than seeing a REC or 140 comments on my post, I love it. Thank you I'm out, peace.

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Why is Crack Hits actually called Chia Hits in the title?

Which one is it?

"You have to have the fighting spirit. You have to force moves and take chances" (Bobby Fischer)

by BishopWest on Dec 20, 2010 11:55 PM CST reply actions  

its Crack Hits

but I thought nobody was reading it because of the title thinking it was drug related or something
thats just my nickname Chia Crack for the record

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Should it be Chia Hits?

It’s going to take a while to read it all. Interested unknowing what your thoughts are though.

by playactionman on Dec 21, 2010 12:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

doing my bit

onward to 140!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aon topic – great post enjoyed it thoroughly, keep m coming!

by Elks83 on Dec 21, 2010 2:01 AM CST reply actions  

Great stuff

My thoughts-

Completely agree with you on Spencer, all the talent in the world just needs to work on technique and pick up some new pass-rushing moves. Tbh dk much about Butler but he does seem to take his opportunities.

Don’t agree with you on McCann being able to start for the Ravens but I do agree he looked GREAT on returns.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 3:16 AM CST reply actions  

Ok maybe his measurables aren’t good but when I said that I was going on the fact that he seems to have good burst and strength, but when he gets to the linemen they just seem to know what to expect.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

ah I disagree Ben

Prince Miller and that bum from the Seahawks started for the Ravens this year McCann could start there imo at least the Nickel

Butler imo makes the most of his time, he is always around the ball and pressures the QB

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

No idea who Prince Miller is, but after McCann’s pick-six against the Giants PFF said other than that play he graded out poorly for the game and also I think they graded out the guy from the Seahawks well the one time I read anything about him on PFF. Man I need premium on PFF! Then I could tell you for sure what happened.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Oops, wasn't finished

+100 on Scandrick, the man’s been balling recently. Also agree on Sensabaugh – average player.

I think Mike Jenkins is very similiar to Spencer, loads of talent, but plays with poor technique. He’ll flash his talent occasionally to make a play on the ball and you’ll be like wow, and next snap he’ll doing something completely wrong and give up a big completion.

And as far as DC’s go, could we do worse than WP lol.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 3:21 AM CST reply actions  

yeah there I agree Ben

both great athletes just bad technique, Spencer and Jenkins
Sensaballs is a JAG, should of stayed in Jacksonville

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice writeup

I grew up being told crack is bad, but these crack hits seem to hit the spot. I agree that an offseason for Spencer (glad you are giving him another year) and Jenkins should hopefully get them back to emerging star status with some hard work and a Garrett training camp (hopefully there is one, meaning a season and JG as HC).
To touch a bit more on that important point, a good offseason and training camp, it reminded me of a pretty good point Randy Galloway made in his article.

In honor, or dishonor, of the final home game of a wretched season let us begin today with the blame game, and the what-went-wrong sad song.
Yes, it’s only the beginning. The blame game is how 2010 will be defined. There will be a deluge of opinions on this disgraceful topic stretching well into the spring and summer.
But for starters: Blame Jon Kitna.
Not really, but a friend of mine with an NFL pedigree jokingly came up with Kitna as the No. 1 fall guy. Except it may not be all that far-fetched.
The explanation: In a simple training camp passing drill one afternoon in San Antonio, Kitna threw a wobbly ball in the direction of prized rookie Dez Bryant. Reaching back for the errant throw, Bryant got whacked on the leg by cornerback Orlando Scandrick.
Dez took a bad fall, with the end result being a high ankle sprain, costing the kid most of training camp.
But Jerry Jones was immediately angry about that one play in San Antonio, and publicly uttered something along the lines of the “aggressive nature” of training camp being unnecessary.
Then and there, Wade Phillips turned five more weeks of camp into a football vacation. It was a team not ready to play when the real football started, and…
Again, “blame Jon Kitna” was supposed to be a joke. But think about it. Maybe not, huh? Wade wasn’t exactly Jimmy Johnson to begin with, but even Wade supporters at Valley Ranch were shocked by the light workload that followed all through training camp.

This made me really think about how weak this team came into the season and the joke about blaming Kitna aside, Camp Cupcake should take a lot of blame…along with the players that let it ruin their preparation and will to win.
I said it elsewhere, but I would rather have Zimmer than Marvin Lewis as DC, though I am a fan of Ryan, Campers, and Rivera.
One last thing, if I remember OCC’s post correctly, our strength of schedule is the hardest of the “bad” teams, so at 5-9 (tied with another 6 teams) and the 6 teams with worse records…I think if the draft started today we actually have pick #12. As such, I think Jordan and the other blue chip DLinemen, not to mention the two elite CBs are gone by the time the Cowboys are on the clock. The bright side is we can take the best OL on the board without it being called a reach (I assume Sherrod or USC’s Troy Smith, maybe even one guy no one on BTB seems to be mentioning Nate Solder of CO start sneaking up the board towards the 10-15 range after the combine.)

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

The bright side is we can take the best OL

someone explain the obsession with the OL to me, please.

Dallas has the 7th best offense if you want to use dumb stats, and the #5 if you want to take a more sophisticated view.

Would it be nice to improve the OL. Of course. But it hasn’t held Dallas back that much.

Do people just want to have a purely offensive team? Is the idea that the offense will just outscore everyone?

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't know what stats you are using...

But the Eye -Test has shown me that the right side of the o-line is a liability and all but Free are over 32 years old. The idea that we don’t need to improve the o-line is shocking to me. I think this is a clear case of the stats no showing the whole picture. You really think we have the 5th best o-line in the league?!

Also, knowing how much you like to attack deep with a passing attack (especially on 1st down) and considering the lack of it this year, wouldn’t you want to upgrade the o-line and not have to rely on 3 step drops to compensate for our lack luster o-line? Don’t you want to see if Felix and Choice are as good as we hope by gicing them a better O-Line?

I would rather get Peterson or Akumara with our 1st and then we don’t need to worry about the TNew question next year (and his 8mil salary), but they won’t be there. As for DLine, I know we need an upgrade, but I think the bluechippers will be gone and we actually have talent that can be developed on the team already (Brent, Lissemore, Bowen) while we do not at the other positions. The draft is also deep at DLine so we can get a good player in the 2nd/3rd rounds. And there aren’t Safeties projected to go in the Top 15 this year.

Taking all that into consideration, what would you do? Trade up to get DLine or CB? Not improve the O-Line with the best lineman in the draft?

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Don’t know what stats you are using…

Dallas is 7th in Yds/g & Pts/g

Most OL stats peg Dallas’s OL at below average (16-18 … somewhere in that range). So while the OL is below average, Garrett has covered that deficiency and the offense has been above average.

like I said, of course I would love to improve the OL.

but I love good defense more.

what would you do?

I would take the BPA which is going to depend on how the draft shakes out. If that’s an edge rusher with the right profile I wouldn’t pass to give Spencer another year.

what would you do? Not improve the defense O-Line with the best lineman pass rusher in the draft?

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

btw, I wouldn’t worry about any of this happening, because Jerry Jones runs the team.

so what will probably happen is Jones will use the 1st round pick to take a DL who can play the run and will be indistinguishable from Marcus Spears. He’ll be a modest upgrade over Igor and the defense will be about the same.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Knock on wood

I hope that JJ realizes (and if he doesn’t Stephen and/or JG does) that between the young guys on the roster and chance to resign Bowen, Hatcher and/or Spears, that O-Line is of greater need of a 1st round pick than our def front.
The best pass rusher in the draft will be gone by the time we pick, the best O-linemen will not.
One more thing, you don’t go from one of the best defenses in ‘09 to one of the worst in ’10 because everyone suddenly lost their talent. I think we aren’t as far away form being a good defense as some others might. Safety is the biggest need (but with no 1st rounders this year) so I think a veteran FA safety alongside one of our young guys will be a big help. ILB is a need, but again, not in the 1st round where we pick. The pass rush is an issue, but I think Spencer is not a bust and can be saved…and I told you how I could fix our DLine – HALOTI NGATA and then Ratliff as one DE will greatly help!
For the longterm future of this franchise, O-Line is a HUGE need. I think better scheming and DC would immediately improve our defense next year.

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

so to summarize

-you think Spencer is going to turn it around
-you think the defense can be fixed with a better DC

Hence, you’re optimistic about the defense.

you don’t go from one of the best defenses in ‘09 to one of the worst in ’10

How about Dallas wasn’t one of the best defenses in ’09. I know, they were tops in points scored. But points scored is a flawed statistic for assessing a defense. Do you fail to understand that this year proves that using points scored is a clueless approach?

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Not saying we were THE BEST, especially with the lack of turnovers, but between the sack totals and the few points allowed we were certainly one of the best. Just like this year, while we have allowed the second most points, I don’t think we are the second worst defense. Yes, yards allowed are clearly important, but we ranked 9th last year…Top 10 is not too shabby Where would you rank the ’09 defense? I would have it in the Top 5, with the Jets, Bengals (yeah, wierd), Ravens, and Packers. The Vikings debatably knock us out of the Top 5, but they were so bad against the pass that I think we were better.

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Dallas wasn’t top 5 in 2009. You just have to look at quality stats.

From OCC

The Cowboys tied with the Vikings for the third best adjusted passing yards offense, but ranked only 17th in adjusted yards pass defense

My comment

to me the key takeaway is "but ranked only 17th in adjusted yards pass defense". Dallas is already 3rd best in passing offense. The big opportunity for improvement is the pass defense.

Football Outsiders

The secondary’s played far worse. In the Maple Street Press book on the Cowboys that Dave Halprin edited, I contributed an essay that focused on what Dallas needed to improve upon to make the Super Bowl. I noted that the team’s performance on offense and against the run had been markedly consistent from 2007-09, but the pass defense had fallen off from eighth to 12th to, in 2009, 15th.

it’s all right there to see.

Stop using crappy stats. Passing efficiency is the borg. Resistance is futile.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

HAHA

There are more things in defense and the NFL my dear FiTaT than are dreamt of in your pass efficieny philosophy. – William “Kegbearer” Shakespeare

Question, do sacks and QB pressures get included in pass effeciency stats for the defense? Does rushing def, points allowed, and 10th best in fewest yards not equate in your def standings? Do you think the Dallas Def was 17th best/worst last year? COuld the fact that teams couldn’t run on us and that we had bid leads not equate into teams passing more against us and thus effect passing efficiency rankings?

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

do sacks and QB pressures get included in pass effeciency stats for the defense

Yes

like I said use quality stats.

doesn’t the complete failure of your method to foresee this year’s collapse give you pause?

You look at the right stats, you had an idea of what the weaknesses were. You look at crappy stats and you wouldn’t have had a clue.

it’s not your fault … the NFL focuses on crappy stats.

consider points allowed
-it includes special teams points and points scored off offensive giveaways (e.g. pick sixes, etc).
-it doesn’t account for the field position effect of giveaways
-it doesn’t account for the field position effect of special teams

it ends up making it useless. teams go from #2 to #30. It doesn’t tell you anything.

I’m sure you’d agree a RB that gains 100 yds on 12 carries had a much better day than a RB that gains 100 yds on 35 carries, right? Efficiency stats capture that difference thats why they’re better.

Do you think the Dallas Def was 17th best/worst last year

I think Dallas was above average against the run, below average against the pass. This year has been an object lesson in what’s more important

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

doesn’t the complete failure of your method to foresee this year’s collapse give you pause?

So you predicted the 2010 collapse did you? A lot more was involved than just pass efficiency. And we were well above average against the run. And of course I take yards per carry into consideration. And I still don’t think there were very many defenses that scared teams more than the Cowboys did last year. And passing effeciency doesn’t take into account the reasons that teams were forced to pass more often against a team that didn’t allow them to run accompanied by an offense that scored a lot of points. How you can assume that a defense that was 2nd in points allowed, 9th in yards allowed, and amongst league leaders in sacks and limiting rushing yards wasn;t good purely because they were in the middle of the pack in pass efficency is still mindboggling. Basing observations only on offensive and defensive passing effeciency is quite narrow minded. And you still are avoiding ansewering the question. Where do YOU rank the defense last year? Top 10? Worse?

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Jake Bequette in 2012, FTW

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Dec 21, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

So you predicted the 2010 collapse did you?

I didn’t predict a collapse but I thought it was the biggest weakness

before the season

to me the key takeaway is “but ranked only 17th in adjusted yards pass defense”. Dallas is already 3rd best in passing offense. The big opportunity for improvement is the pass defense.

before the season

If I was a GM looking to improve the Cowboys, my wish list would be 3 [sic 5] technique DE who could rush the passer (Brian Price out of UCLA if he drops to 27) and a good CB.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Where do YOU rank the defense last year?

I’d defer to Brian Burke’s final efficiency rankings

Had the defense at 11th.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

So you would rank (and think coaches around the league were more worried about) Buf, Ind, 49er, and Den defenses higher the Dallas’?
I guess we’ll agree to disagree there.
And I too saw more room for improvement for our defense than offense, though I still think they were one of the best in the league in 2009.

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

And I too saw more room for improvement for our defense than offense

I don’t get this. If you saw more rom for improvement for our defense than our offense last year, you must see a lot more room for defesive improvement than offensive improvement after this year. Yet you still are focused on the OL.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 22, 2010 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

The OLine has A LOT of room for improvement, even though there are more positions of need on the defense. But I can separate the two. I think we need one Dlinemen (but even that could end up being a player on the roster who improves in the offseason), one CB, one safety, and a future ILB…on the other hand, we could use 3 new olinemen next year.
If you think this offense can be just as good next year with this same oline one year older, so be it. I think we are in for a rude awakening if we don’t get new blood in there. As you quoted me in your first response “on the bright side” is the key phrase. Not my top choice as I mentioned elsewhere, but considering how I think the draft shakes out and the spot we pick, yes, I think it greatly improves the team if we take the best OLine prospect in the draft. Not sure why you think I am “focused” on the oline.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 22, 2010 3:35 AM CST up reply actions  

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-ChadReuter

here a 1st round mock. has Fairley, Quinn, & Clayborn all available. right now I don’t have any data so I really don’t know if any of those guys would be worth the pick but if they turn out to have an elite profile they should be considered.

Not sure why you think I am "focused" on the oline.

It seems like you want Dallas to take an OL with their first pick.
 

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 22, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Please read my post more carefully

OLine is not my focus, but the bright side of picking out of Top 10 means we could still get the best OLineman in the draft.
Fairley is a bluechipper I would take, but think he will be gone by the time we are up. As mentioned before, I would also take Peterson and Akumara if available.

As for Quinn and Clayborn, I am not a huge fan. First, because I think Sherrod, Smith, or Solder (OT) are all immediate and big upgrades from Colombo, while Quinn and Clayborn are not huge improvements from what we currently have on our roster. Other things that worry me about them.
Robert Quinn

Along with a few extra pounds teams would like to see Quinn get stronger. He has the speed rush down pat but needs to develop a power rush move. He also could stand to be stronger and improve his run stopping ability.
Quinn never set foot on the field this season after being ruled permanently ineligible for a variety of NCAA and school violations.

Clayborn
Clayborn needs to spend more time in the weight room so he can enhance his strength. He has a tendency to get pushed around by offensive linemen. He could use extra bulk which will help him hold down the edge against the run. Clayborn needs to answer questions about his character; he was arrested for a situation surrounding an assault.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 22, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Quinn Dez never set foot on the field this season after being ruled permanently ineligible for a variety of NCAA and school violations.
ClaybornSpencer needs to answer questions about his character; he was arrested for a situation surrounding an assault.

but here’s the key question

while Quinn and Clayborn are not huge improvements from what we currently have on our roster.

We don’t have data yet. What is your basis for making that claim?

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 22, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, you only took part of the reports, the rest showing they both need to improve on some very important aspects of 3-4DEs make me worry more. But my statement is based mostly on the players we do know about, the ones on our roster. Colombo is grading out as one of the worst RT in the league right now (as per PFF).
And hot of the OCC Post

Bowen has a cumulative grade this year of 12.7, making him the 5th ranked 3-4 DE this year.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 22, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t think Quinn would be an end. I’m thinking he would replace Spencer.

anyway, let’s not quibble.

i’m going to write a post about the ‘planet theory’.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 22, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I will take any of them

we need a DE like that
Claybourn Quinn Jordan Bowers Fairley Dareus this a is a deep DL draft and thats a good thing
means we get one of these guys in the 1st

by Archie Barberio on Dec 22, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Also means we can get one in the 2nd. Bowers and Fairley I would take (the blue chippers in my opinion) after that i would rather take the best OT and REALLY upgrade our OLine, the other Dlinemen I don’t think are THAT much better than what we already have on the team…especially after the young guys get another year in training camp (Brent, Lissemore)

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by Kegbearer on Dec 23, 2010 4:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I know you love Jordan, but him and Dareus and Clayborn, I just don’t think they are nobrainer starters over guys like Spears and Bowen. I know our DLine has been bad this year, but I think that is more Spencer not playing well and ILB being weak. The way I see it for next year…
Ratliff – passrusher, Brent – runstopper, Spears – runstopper, Bowen – pass rusher, Lissemore – passrusher. Not saying that is all they can do, but their specialty. I think we have a good mix and some talent if we resign Spears and Bowen (are either going to get more than a 1st round rookie?) If bluechippers gone, and 2 CBs gone, I would pull the trigger and get best OLineman. Just my opinion.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 23, 2010 4:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I need to do more homework on Jordan

As per Raf at CN interview with Wes Bunting

CN:I saw one of the really bit sites has Nick Fairley 9th overall and I though, I wish.
But that could happen. A lot depends on the teams picking in front of Dallas. This site had the 4-3 ends Quinn and Bowers ahead of Fairley but even if he’s gone and the top two corners are gone, it’s nice to have a guy like Cam Jordan as a fall-back option. I think he’s grossly undervalued.
WB: Just wait till the Senior Bowl practices. He’s a guy Mike Mayock and Corey Chavous won’t stop talking about.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 23, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah you should

he is a blue chipper man
he is going to blow up the Senior Bowl and combine just like the kid from Michigan did last year and the Eagles traded up for Grahmn Cracker

by Archie Barberio on Dec 23, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Cameron Jordan looks dynamic as a 5 technique

But, is he worth a 1st (that’s probably what it would take to get him)?

I’m digging the Wisconsin kid JJ Watt, if he comes out, might be there in the 2nd.

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by APerfectStar on Dec 24, 2010 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Basing observations only on offensive and defensive passing effeciency

I look at defensive run efficiency as well. And intereception rates. I just put the most weight on passing efficiency.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Dec 21, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Another thing the pass efficiency won’t show you is when our pass d collapsed last year, mainly on 3rd and long. I am sure that is why we aren’t in the top 10 in pass efficieny, perhaps even higher. I assumed Wade would fix that and stop using his prevent def on 3rd and longs (which we forced a lot of since our def was so good most of the time). Did you not think the def would be better than in 2009? I figured Jenkins and Scandrick would improve, that the pass rush would be even better with Spencer playing like he did at the end of the season, though admittedly I was worried about the safety expirement and whether Brooking could play at the same level a year later. Bottom line, I, and I think many others, figured this defense would improve this year, not regress (perhaps I should say collapse). But if you expected all the chaos because of the def passing efficiency last year…

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by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

we def were a good defense last year

Hamlin wasnt letting up big plays, Jenkins played arguably the best CB play other than Revis and Woodson last year, Spencer was a beast Ware was a beast Rat was a beast Igor played good Spears played good Brooking was great for us everyone played good last year in the defense seriously
the only thing we didnt generate was turnovers and I primarily thinks thats because we play so MUCH man coverage and have average safties
Jenkins can pick the ball off Newman can too
I really think this year the CBs lack of quality coverage in man is a major reason for our downfall, and alot of opposing teams have said that off the record and obviously not getting pressure is a HUGE reason too
add in our DE’s not doing crap Ratliff getting owned by 2 OL and Spencer not getting the job done either I say thats the reasons why we fell so hard
and yeah I hated Ken Hamlin but he was a stabilizer to the defense, he wasnt going to get picks but he was the glue
that can be fixed, we can get a good FS and shore it up
I am positive thinking about next year with this defense for ALOT of reasons

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

To be fair Hamlin’s still on the street Idk how good he really is. He was solid enough in 09 though for sure.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

this defense can still be good again, but our OLine have peaked already and is only going to get worst

by LiLGiT on Dec 21, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree that the o-line needs help, the guys are getting old..however..

According to NFL.com We are the 7th ranked offense (YPG) and the 4th ranked passing offense in the league. Unfortunately we are 22nd rushing.

Defense however is the 25th ranked defense (YPG), 28th passing and 14th rushing.

Going off of that, which is pretty basic I know…it looks like defense needs the most help. Especially considering we are without our starting qb and pretty much everyone on defense is healthy.

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by markdamack on Dec 21, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Def needs help, no doubt

And I would prefer one of the best def linemen/CBs, but I don’t think they will be there. Thus the “on the bright side” of my statement, I would rather help our aging OLine with the best prospect in the draft. I think we have A LOT more potential at various def positions that could greatly improve with another training camp/offseason, while at O-Line there is no clear future talent

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by Kegbearer on Dec 21, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

its amazing what Garrett and Kitna have done this year

Garrett has a subpar OL, a backup QB and still has a top 10 offense
dude is averaging 32 pts a game I believe since he took over as head coach
the defense is what has cost us games, and the OL but not the offense the offense can score pts and move the ball

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

yep, the Offense has averaged about 27 pts per game,

with a little help from both the Defense and Special Teams (so 32 total pts per game)

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by BishopWest on Dec 21, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

OLine have been our weakness since the Giants beat us on their way to winning the SB

We need both offensive and defensive help. Through 14 games, we’ve only had one complete game where both the offense and defense showed up and that was against Houston. I believe our weak OLine is a big reason we lost games to Minny and Philly. Against Minny, we didn’t even test their secondary because we didn’t want Romo to get hurt and against Philly, our OLine couldn’t even give us the time needed to toast Philly back-up CB which is a shame.

by LiLGiT on Dec 21, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

really thats it?

I thought the 2nd Giants game the defense was great and against Philly except for a few big plays and the last few minutes of the 4th

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Blame...

BS. Pure unadulterated still-steaming piles of BS. Kitna, Wade or anyone else. Including Jerry.

Blame’s counter-productive, at best. Destructive.

If Galloway’s article speaks to facts, so be it. Stay away from the blame game. Pointless posturing finger-pointing never solved a problem.

Now, responsibility, well there’s another thing altogether. If someone has the authority to deal with issues in an area and things go to hell, well, it’s on them due to it being their responsibility. And it sure as hell should be on them to fix it.

This franchise’s primary difficulty is there’s plenty of responsibilities delegated without the corresponding required levels of authority. That’s in one place. So there’s no blame to be assigned. It’s pointless.

But on one plate rests the responsibility for what we see before us. By that person’s own choice. It’s not blame. It’s a failure in exercising authority effectively and a failure in standing up and not just mouthing words but accepting responsibility and resolving the problem.

Responsibility, not blame, is the key here.

Who’s to blame? What a load of horsesh!t.

And yes, I’m annoyed. D@mn annoyed.

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by tanstaafl on Dec 21, 2010 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

You are right. I didn’t mean to promote the blame game, just thought that bringing up the Dez injury and how soft the training camp became after that point is important to remember. We (or better yet, JG as HC) must learn from this history so we are not doomed to repeat it.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 22, 2010 3:38 AM CST up reply actions  

You've nothing to apologize for, KB

My rant wasn’t directed towards you or your comment. I didn’t take your comment to be promoting the “blame game”. It was simply about those tendancies Galloway’s article illustrates being something that’s BS in my eyes. I was irked. Am irked by it, whenever, wherever I see it.

Your bringing up the “soft camp” point is 100% valid. Work hard, play hard. That’s a winning formula, whether there’s a Lombardi at the end or not. No man, player or otherwise, who “leaves it all on the field” should ever feel defeated, right?

And yep, that’s what the Past’s there for. To learn from it. Absolute agreement on that.

I apologize if my rant came across like I was coming down on you for your comment. It sure wasn’t intended that way, bud. ;)

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5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 22, 2010 6:55 AM CST up reply actions  

No worries

I don’t take your respones personally nor do I think you are one of those that just tries to prove others wrong for the sake of it. I just wanted to make it clear that I am in 100% agreement with you about avoiding the blame game and realized that I absentmindedly promoted it in my comment.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 22, 2010 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

If you see or feel you did...

in retrospect, you’re no different than me. As much as it’s something I’m intolerant of, I’ll make the mistake of doing it myself. I think we all are in emotional, esp. passionate, circumstances. And I kick myself hardest when I catch it happening. ;

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5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 22, 2010 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Great write up man, I pretty much agree on every point.

Sam Hurd just can extend for catches, I never understood it. He can get that slant all day everyday, but he can’t stretch for a catch to save his life.

Also, on a random note…I remember looking over on the Titans SBN site and Alterraun Verner was doing little write ups for them on his experiences. I wish we could get a young guy like McCann or Holley to do that. Holley is on twitter constantly, he’s gotta have time to do write ups lol. I’m going to ask him, I’ve talked to him on a few seperate occasions on twitter and he’s a really nice guy.

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by markdamack on Dec 21, 2010 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

can't* extend for catches

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by markdamack on Dec 21, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Aye,

I’m finally convinced, he’s maxed out his WR ability and getting too expensive to be just a ST’er.

He’s had some opportunities to step up this season, and he’s failed. Good guy, but time to move on.

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by APerfectStar on Dec 24, 2010 1:19 AM CST up reply actions  

To be fair, one of Hurd’s ‘drops’ was quite a hard catch and I don’t know if I’d call it a drop.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly - and I'm pretty sure that Roy W. doesn't catch that one either.

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by BishopWest on Dec 21, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks bro

yeah Verner is doing great tor them, he went to UCLA and another corner that draft Trevard Lindley from Kentucky really fell hard that draft idk why and the Titans and Eagles got starting CB’s late
and I agree on Hurd, he is open on the slant everytime idk if thats good route running or CB’s sleeping on him but he does get open quite a bit, I actually like Hurd and if he had Miles type talent he would be a great WR

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

What?! You mean we're going to be subject to this DRIVEL every week?!

Kidding, Chia. Seriously. ;

Enjoyed it immensely. Having only been able to listen to the game it was interesting to read some of the little things you miss by not seeing with your own two eyes. Thoroughly enjoyed the “listening to another Cowboys fan” sense it gave me while reading it. True to the spoken word, very communicative. And all this is beyond the points you were bringing forth, your personal observations and such.

Only thing I have to say, not negatively, but about the reality of situations, is DC lateral moves need current-team approval for talks and some of these guys aren’t likely to get that (Capers, Rivera). Nonetheless, they and any potential candidate should always be on radar, I agree.

Looking forward to seeing what your takes on things are in the future. Well done.

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5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 21, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

thank you

well I watched the game right, but I really came into that game to make a point in observing Spencer, I must of watched about 75 percent of his snaps
he didnt look that bad honestly, he just needs better moves, because he does have a nice first step and was getting there but just a second or two late
thank you for the kind words, Ive always been a good writer so i said f**** it and I wanna really write something weekly on here and then really get the offseason free agency and draft stuff going when that rolls around because I LOVE the draft I really do

as far as DC’s go I mention Dom Capers because Im not BS’n when I say Garrett had him lined up as his DC when he had job offers in St Louis Baltimore and Denver, he really did have Capers lined up and Capers contract ends this season in Green Bay, so theres a good chance he is a name mentioned when the time comes, also this idk if its true but I heard they were going to bring Capers in as a assistant when Brian Stewart was here, and Brian Stewart acted like a bitch and didnt want Capers here, being Stewart was Wade’s guy Jerry ok’d not bringing Capers in, he went to Green Bay I believe after that and I heard Stephen was pissed off
this isnt the first time Stephen had something worked out and Jerry went against it
rumor is Stephen had a offer setup with Shannahan and Jerry kept Wade because we won a playoff game last year, and Stephen wanted to fire Wade
this to me is great news, Stephen is going to be a good owner, he just seems to have the business side of it and the football knowledge we need
see I like Jerry he is the most passionate giving owner anyone could wish for, he does make some good decisions, but the bad ones are the decisions that end up really hurting the team
he is isnt a awful GM or owner, we could be far worse off but I just wish he would hire a real GM or let Cizkowski (head of scouting) and Stephen be the GM or something

I am very smart I can write and I have a great understand of the game man, my posts are going to be good to read, I dont use alot of stats because I dont have access to them and really its a pain in the ass to do all that information
I do use stats, everyone does, but alot of people on here really live by stats, and I think thats misleading
I dont need a service to tell me Marc Columbo sucks balls, I can watch the game and see that myself you know lol
really tan when the draft rolls around like March April thats when I am going to get rolling on here
the only reason I watch college is because I want to scout players to be honest
tan likewise I loved your post you did, very good write up bro

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You're enthusiastic

That’s a good quality, a good sign. Not that you need the cautioning any more than any of us do, just remember to temper enthusiasm with reasoning when analyzing.

Well aware of the Capers story and things about Stephen, though here I take a more cautious view, as I usually do on things of a second-hand or more nature.

Be ok with any Shanahan deal that might’ve been not coming to be. I’m not saying that due to his stint in WSH this year. He’s not our HC answer.

Truth of the game’s somewhere between what our eyes tell us and what the stats tell us, so you needn’t be concerned about not being stats-focused as much as others. They’re a tool to help analyze the game and provide indicators of performance, what to watch for, etc. Like your eyes. Use both and trust neither completely.

Again, good post, enjoyed reading it and look forward to your takes. Oh, and thanks for the kind words.

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5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 21, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

One more thing...

Mention your Ciskowski view to 5Blings. ;)

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5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 21, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha why

is he a fan of the Ciskowski?

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm...

no comment. ;)

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5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 21, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

I dont blame C for alot of bad decisions
I think he has been really good imo

by Archie Barberio on Dec 22, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

tan

im going to be a Cowboys fan in my posts obviously, but I am going to tell it how it is
I wont sugarcoat it at all, if somebody f’d up or played bad I am going to tell the truth
I think the good writers and contributors on here find that fine line between fan and neutral writer
and thats what I want, I want to read what I am reading or writing to be truthful
thats why I have a big problem with the mothership (even though I am there most of the time I like some people on there) but they are just too homerific for me
nothing wrong with being a homer, just not if your a sportswriter
for instance this pissed me off considering Dez Bryant is my favorite player, idk I am 26 and I can just relate to Dez more but anyway Mickey Spagnola wrote a piece in April before the draft about Dez and just ripped him to shreds man he had brought up his mother selling drugs questioned Dez’s attitude and behavior said Dez was lazy said Dez was this and that etc he brought up the incident where Dez didnt have his cleats for the 40 yard dash at his pro day and how he had to use these cleats that were too tight and just bashed the kid to death
he basically said he was a awful kid and that we should stay away from him no matter how talented he was (even though imo Mickey clearly didnt think Dez was that good of a player)
so 2 weeks later we draft Dez Bryant, and guess who is the first person to interview him at Valley Ranch on the motherships draft special they aired, none other than Mickey Spagnola
he never wrote a article about this, he didnt have to apologize but he should of just done a “I was wrong” type piece you know

then I heard during the season Mickey saying Dez was this and he is great bla bla bla I heard Mickey say Dez has been the best football player on the field since he was in pop warner etc

I actually really like reading Mickey’s stuff but that whole situation really pissed me off idk lol sorry for BS’n you to death bro

by Archie Barberio on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

You're not BS'ing me to death

You’re saying what you think. Good. We’re all right and wrong about things and putting forth what you think and defending it and having it smacked down, both justly and without basis, is what fan BS’ing is all about, right?

It’s opinion. Analysis, to whatever degree, or just somebody’s take on a player, play, whatever, it’s all just opinions. It’s what this is all about.

And always consider your sources of information, their veracity and potential biases, especially the mothership. It’s a bought and paid for part of the empire. Don’t get worked up about theirs or anyone’s opinion. Just gather the info, analyze it with respect to your own perspective, be prepared to be both right and wrong in your conclusions and you’ll be fine.

Frankly, Mickey’s a guy doing a paid-for job. Some are better than others, some flip-flop, it runs the gamut. Just like here or anywhere, online or not. Don’t let him bother you. Or anyone bother you for that matter.

Defend your view, never back down when you’re right (be careful here), be prepared to be proven wrong, admit when you’re wrong and apologize if you hurt/offend.

You’re a Cowboys fan. Passionate about something you love. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. Enjoy it. It’s one of the great pleasures in life.

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 21, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Omg talkin cowboys and the lunch break sometimes just go on and on about the most bs stories everyone hates for example – do you think dez is a ‘character guy’. They went on about this for ages one time, so f-ing boring I couldn’t listen.

by Ben24626 on Dec 21, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I know

I never listen to that show, ever
I watch the \draft show they do its Bill Jones and Mickey that I like

by Archie Barberio on Dec 22, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Dez and character

I think Michael Irvin said it best, when he turned it on the media saying that an athlete that comes from his backgorund and family circumstances and can still make it to a college program and play like he has played…he should be commended for making it out of that situation, not considered a poor character guy because of it.
I think Dez has proved that already. In fact, Michael Irvin had proved that when he was a rookie as well.

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by Kegbearer on Dec 22, 2010 3:48 AM CST up reply actions  

+88 (squared)

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 22, 2010 6:58 AM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah Crack Hits a success

cant wait for Crack Hits:The Sequel Cooking it up

by Archie Barberio on Dec 22, 2010 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Crack Hits: Freebased Ideas?

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry

by Kegbearer on Dec 23, 2010 4:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Perfect.

Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.

by tanstaafl on Dec 23, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree Sensei played a horrible game. Don't let Stat lines fool you

The plays he didn’t make hurt us a lot more than the plays he did make

What's this? Mcnabb's been benched and Vick can't have a puppy? Now if Eli could just get coal in his stockings I'd have a Merry Christmas.

Disclaimer: Don’t listen to me I usually make bad decisions. Don’t take advice while operating machinery. Do not listen if you are pregnant or may become pregnant. See your GM for more advice

by NYHorn on Dec 22, 2010 7:34 PM CST reply actions  

Between him and Ball though....

Sensi looks fantastic.

Safety will get fixed this off-season. Too many good prospects coming out to miss them all, not to mention any FA’s that come available if they go that route.

"I'm not gonna hold my head down. I'm gonna fight until this damn thing is over, period!" Jay Ratliff

by APerfectStar on Dec 24, 2010 1:24 AM CST up reply actions  

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