Biases? Pasqualoni's not enough? And more.
We're Dallas Cowboys fans, other teams fans would yell that we're one of the most biased fanbases... And looking at the 2007 Pro Bowl and how several players have gone to it in other years without really deserving it (Roy "Thong" Williams), it's really hard to argue against it...
But in reality, the fans count for only 1/3 of the total votes, players and coaches can stop a player from going and they didn't.
And that's the main idea behind this post, the Coaches and Players have a chance to right a wrong, a wrong that the other fanbases have accomplished because of their own biases, the bias against the Cowboys and it's players.
I'm talking about the Pro Bowl, in an awful season it's easy to understand why many fans in Cowboys Nation didn't wanted to vote, what isn't easy is the reasoning behind other teams fans for not voting for several players deserving of making the Pro Bowl when they wear a Cowboys uniform... Unbelievable... Ummmm, wait, I do know how something like that can happen... But I would be digressing, so on to the topic at hand:
Among TEs he leads the League in catches and yards and he leads the NFC in TDs. Those are the big stats. He also has more than respectable numbers in yards per catch (11.1) and 1st down pct (53.7).
And he's the 4th TE in the NFC?
Laughable!
And furthermore, most of his stats come from playing with Kitna and when the Offensive Line can't pass protect for long, so they have to go for short yardage and Witten is the best bet.
The Cowboys are a recipient of hate, that's the only reason that can explain why Witten is below Tony Gonzalez, Chris Cooley and Vernon Davis.
He's a NT and, even when he's in kind of a down year for him, he still has 4 sacks, 8 QB hits, 6 Tackles for loss and a lot of pressures.
Does he deserve to go in front of Ndamukong Suh? Of course not! But he deserves to go in front of any other DT in the NFC (Babineaux - Atl.; Dockett, Ari.; Coffield, NYG.).
And, stats wise, he's the best NT in the League, so if Wilfork is deserving of making it, then Ratliff is a no brainer.
Which is the best stat when you're looking at a punter? It's the net average, which takes into account the point in which the Offense would start from, not the total distance that the punt traveled. You can punt 70 yarders on a regular basis, but if the returner takes the ball back 30 yards, you would suck as a punter...
In net average, McBriar is the best in the League by a full yard.
Outside of this 3 guys, the only guy that deserves a Pro Bowl trip is Ware and he will make it, he made it 2nd in OLBs behind Clay Matthews and I can't fault anyone for that, they're the best OLBs in the NFC.
The Coaches and players have the ball in their court, they can right a wrong, they can send Pro Bowl tickets to 4 Cowboys players that deserve the trip, even if that brings claims of unfairness and bias in other teams fanbases.
Want a new Defensive Coordinator? I'm looking at Green Bay.
Everyone knows about Dom Capers, his contract expires after this season and the Packers have to make the call if they want to retain him or not.
But, why wouldn't they retain him? Because they have been developing someone and they will either promote him or let him walk after this year, that's why Capers was signed to a 2 year deal, only. They wanted to give him more experience under a defensive mastermind.
His name is Winston Moss and he's a LBs Coach and Assistant Head Coach. That assistant title means that other teams have sniffed in his direction, so other teams have seen him and know that he has a future, and the Packers promoted him and made him a highly paid assistant. He also has experience as a player and he was a good one. And he has experience coaching LB under Haslett, a Capers protege, in New Orleans and experience coaching 4 man fronts in Green Bay before the move to a 3 man front under Capers.
For a team like the Cowboys that uses even and uneven fronts in a regular basis, that experience could be valuable. Furthermore, he's recognized for his leadership skills and for leading very productive LB units for years now.
Among the many prospects that may be available for the Cowboys in the coming months, this guy deserves to be considered.
3-4 DE? Bruce Smith played as a 3-4 End at 275 pounds?
It's the truth, in his rookie year Bruce Smith played the part of Chubby Checkers and exploded to the high 290 pounds weight mark and wasn't the explosive self that he was in College. In the Offseason he decided to drop that weight and the coaching staff welcomed a slim and truly disruptive guy.
That guy broke 200 sacks and he's one of the best pass rushers of all time.
I'm warming up to the idea of Da'Quan Bowers as another high DE prospect because he has the power and explosive first step to make it work in an attacking 3-4 scheme, I would still prefer Fairley and Cameron Jordan because they have the size and quickness to also be explosive, but Bowers has become a nice and welcomed 3rd option in my draft board.
I want some of that from a 3-4 DE, what about you?
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Fans of...
the Antonio Gates and Dallas Clark types would probably disagree with you.
Me, I want a complete, receiving and blocking TE.
Rabid and luvin' it
Posted to quick.....
Gates,Gonzo,Cooley,and Davis are glorified receivers.Jason Witten is the total package and is completely unselfish,yet he gets no love from anybody but Cowboys fans.You either Love them or you despise them.I Love Them,Cowboys Rule!!!!
Cowboys For Life!!!! Win,Lose,or Lose Horribly!!!
He's one of those players...
that’s so good at what he does and is, if he’s not on your team you hate him. Change the colors, and all that hate turns to love.
That’s, if you allow bias to color your thinking.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Gonzalez is actually a fantastic blocker
has been his whole career.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 28, 2010 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
chandus..hogtie jerry on draft day so we don't end up
with another receiver or qb…would be nice to get a DL man that can play and a DL coach that can coach..and a bunch of other coaches on defense that have a clue
You can punt 70 yarders in a regular basis, but if the returner takes the ball back 30 yards, you would suck as a punter...
Doesn’t this actually mean that your coverage team sucks? The punter has done his job in that scenario
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Yeah
A kick that long doesn’t have as much air, so it travels more distance in less time and the coverage won’t be there.
It’s just like that punt that hit the Jerrytron, that punt would have been a 30 yarder at best, the punter aimed at hitting the screen, he really wasn’t trying to punt. But that punt had a lot of air in it and the coverage unit would have been all around the place in which it would come down.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
You also need to factor in...
% inside the 20 and touchbacks. McBriar was one of the best in both areas last season…one of the highest percentages inside the 20 and one of the lowest touchback percentages. He definitely should’ve made the Pro Bowl last season.
This season he’s barely above mid-pack on “inside the 20” percentage with only 36.5% and one of the worst with a 11% touchback percentage. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/sortableStats?div=NFL&table=punting&stat=puntIn20Per&dir=descending
Part of that could be guys not getting down there and downing the ball or forcing the fair catch. But, I remember McBriar being a very good directional punter last season. This season, not as much. He’s still very good, but not having the kind year he had last season in that respect.
Rabid and luvin' it
That's because the Offense isn't as effective at moving the ball
With Romo at the helm, in pretty much every posession, you can say that the offense could move the ball for 1 or 2 first downs and a punt from the 50.
Andy Lee, 49ers, has made a living from punting 50-60 yarders from their own 20-30 yard, he has great net averages, but he has had poor years of inside the 20 punts.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
The Cowboys get the same treatment with regard to the Hall of Fame. Interesting
to see if those wrongs you cite get righted, since they haven’t elsewhere. I still can’t believe there were people on this board earlier in the season wanting to see Witten traded.
I believe it...
because I’ve seen it.
It’s the understanding it I’ve had a helluva problem with. ;)
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Oh, and this game is further proof
This team needs a new defensive staff, from top to bottom.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I want to say it and I don't...
Witten-reverse racism?
Is he seen as not as “athletic” as the other guys because, well,….he doesn’t look the part of a skill player?
It’s not 100%, but I think there’s some subconscious stuff going on in some of the media.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
Well, right now the TEs that are supposed to make it are Tony Gonzalez and Chris Cooley… Not sure how this is an example of reverse racism…
IMO, it’s more of an example of fans stupidity.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
You'll seldom go wrong...
banking on human stupidity.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
Because white guys are perceived as less "athletic"
They’re “blue collar” guys getting by on “guts and smarts”….
You are making my point actually.
Oh, yeah, and fans are stoopid, I know. But Witten should be getting a lot more coverage from media as time goes on.
Of course, there’s also the anti-Cowboys bias that plays in.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Dec 27, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I’m saying that this isn’t an example of reverse racism because Gonzalez and Cooley aren’t exactly poster boys of anti-racism agendas… On has latin blood, the other is as “pure” (LOL) as Witten…
If a couple like Vernon Davis and another TE would have led the fan voting I would be singing your same tune, but they didn’t.
As you said it, it’s more of an anti-Cowboys bias what played a part.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Ask any...
Reasoning coach, player or fan: In an unbiased evaluation, which TE provides your current-playing ideal team the greatest probability of winning?
The answer’s inarguable. The problem’s human bias enters in. Professionally, coaches and players, are less likely to be liable to its influence compared to the majority of fans.
Great write-up, Chandus. Very interesting info on Moss. Knew the Capers contract stuff, but leaned towards GB retaining his services. You gave me something to look into, the potential of Moss being retained as groomed or available in light of GB’s overall decisions. Capers/Moss, I see intriguing possibilities to address some of our revisions come off-season. Either way, unless GB retains both, we’ve something to consider from the frozen tundra.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
I've warmed...
to Bowers over both Fairley/Jordan. That said, I’m still evaluating them all and the draft overall.
Given he declares, is available at our pick and barring a Peterson falling to us, I’m seriously considering him as our 1st overall. Even with a Peterson falling, come war-room decision-time, if it was right now, as GM (which I’m not) I’d have a tough tough decision to make.
Pride, Avarice, Lust, Envy, Gluttony, Wrath, Sloth.
5 outta 7 ain't bad. Working on the other 2.
It's not like it's a huge conspiracy
most fans got sick of undeserving Cowboys going to the Pro Bowl, so in a down year the blowback is that a couple of deserving Cowboys don’t make it. Pretty simple explanation really. You’d think America’s Team would have enough support to win a popularity contest, but there ya go. I do agree that Witten is probably the best TE in the game, and definitely deserves to go this year, but to put Ratliff over Cofield would not be right. Cofield has 50 tackles and 4 sacks to Ratliff’s 29 tackles and 3.5 sacks. nfl.com does not give TFL stats, so if anyone has those I’d appreciate it, but from having watched every Giants game this year I know Cofield has more than 5. To say Ratliff deserves a nod over him is the same outright homerism you’re deriding other fans for.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 27, 2010 1:57 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, and that's why I saved this gem for last
And, stats wise, he’s the best NT in the League, so if Wilfork is deserving of making it, then Ratliff is a no brainer.
Unfortunately, that’s the problem when you’re talking about NTs in a 3-4, they will be less productive than 4 man front DTs, but that doesn’t mean that they’re any less effective.
And really, as an in division fan, you can answer this question to me: which are the 2 players that you have to take in consideration in every snap in the Cowboys Defense? Ware and Ratliff? I can’t say the same thing about Cofield.
Tuck and Osi would be ahead. Webster is also capable, as is the case of Canty.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
That last point is true
but why should Cofield be punished because there are more playmakers next to him? He hasn’t been able to maximize his production before this year, now he has. He has been a true playmaker, and should be rewarded. I also do get the difference in defensive schemes. With so many 3-4’s in play now, maybe they should change one of the slots to necessitate a NT makes it in. That would be fair, no?
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 28, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
That's my point
Ratliff is one of the Cowboys playmakers and one of the best players in the League, teams gameplan around him. Meanwhile, when team face the Giants, they don’t do the same with Cofield.
Who’s the best player? I’ll take Ratliff 10 times out of 10.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Thanks to the NFL coaches and players
Witten, Ratliff and McBriar deserve their trips.
Gurode doesn’t. You can try to correct that in the future.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!

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