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The VRR: Jerry Jones Wants to Keep Miles Austin on the Cowboys, but Could the "Tuna" be Watching?

What to do with Miles Austin can be an exhausting debate. Do whatever it takes to keep him is the obvious answer.

But then there is that "what if?".

What if a team like, let's say the Dolphins, are willing to give up a draft pick or two for Austin? Every team has realized his potential has developed into production. The Dolphins sit at number twelve in the first round. Could they get a better WR at that spot than Austin?

Yes, the Cowboys have the right to match any offers, but that number twelve pick coupled with a third-rounder if they place the highest RFA tender on him could be rather enticing.

It's all speculation until early March, but that doesn't mean it doesn't smell fishy.

More VRR after the jump.

Star-divide

Stephen Jones had the quote of the week in regards to the Cowboys having no plans to franchise Miles Austin.

"We don't need to use the franchise tag," said Jones, who was attending a celebrity PBR media event at Cowboys Stadium Wednesday morning. "How many times have you seen another team give up a one and a three?"

Hat tip to Dr. Cowboy for the FanShot.

Personally, I prefer Jerry's statement:

"We're just not going to have Miles Austin any place but with the Dallas Cowboys," owner Jerry Jones said on 103.3 FM ESPN radio.

Stephen also mentioned that the Cowboys will not spend wildly this offseason.

Jones said Wednesday that the Cowboys agreed to expensive, long-term deals with the likes of Tony Romo and linebacker DeMarcus Ware to keep them off the market in a year when teams might have no limit on spending. Because of the money tied up in those deals, Jones says the Cowboys aren't interested in a spending spree. He also says they don't see a need for major changes after their first playoff win in 13 years.

Todd Archer says that Austin will remain a Cowboy, but a certain Florida team may keep their eyes on what the team does with him.

Could Miami make a run at Austin? Bill Parcells certainly knows the talent, as do Tony Sparano and everybody else with the Dolphins. Miami needs a No. 1 wide receiver for Chad Henne. Remember this too: when Parcells left New England for the New York Jets, he took with him running back Curtis Martin, who was a ... restricted free agent. He signed Martin to a six-year, $36 million deal. New England chose not to match the offer, taking the Jets' first- and third-round picks.

[snip]

Miami would have to give up the 12th and 73rd picks to make a play for Austin. Would you take that as compensation? Heck no. The Cowboys put a lot of years of investment into Austin, do not have a suitable replacement and the draft is always a crapshoot when it comes to receiver.

Josh Ellis thinks the Cowboys ought to play it safe and franchise Austin.

Austin would be their highest-profile acquisition among the former Cowboys, who are apparently content to place the first- and third-round tender on the emergent wide receiver. The Cowboys would have the right to match an offer from Miami or any other team, in that event, but nothing technically prevents Dolphins from using a Poison Pill to keep the Cowboys from retaining him.

Nick Eatman thinks a restricted tender is sufficient.

My gut feeling is the Cowboys will give Austin the highest restricted tender possible - the one-year $3.16 million deal. If another team signs Austin to an offer sheet and the Cowboys choose not to match, then they would receive a first- and third-round pick this year.

But let's be real here, the Cowboys are going to match. It's an uncapped year. They will figure it out and out-bid any team to keep their own superstar wide receiver. And another thing, if you go back over the last 10 years or so of free agency, teams aren't forfeiting high picks for restricted free agents.

Here is the list of players scheduled to become unrestricted free agents March 5.

While the defense took a big step forward this season, next season they could help the offense out more by providing better starting field position.

The Cowboys' offense also rarely worked with a short field. The Cowboys had only 13 possessions that began in opponents' territory, fewest in the league. Green Bay had the most, with 31. Super Bowl champion New Orleans had 22 possessions that began in opponents' territory, and the Saints also scored seven defensive touchdowns.

The Cowboys' defense did well in terms of limiting points, the top goal. The next step for the defense is to make more plays that help the offense. That increases the possibility of taking a play-making safety high in the draft, if not in the first round.

Matt Mosely heard that the Cowboys may be targeting safeties in the first round.

Jones didn't confirm this, but I've been told that the scouting department is taking a long look at the safety position with the No. 27 pick overall. The organization is disappointed in the play of Ken Hamlin and it's time to start looking for his eventual replacement. Alan Ball has looked good at times, but I'm not sure he's ready for full-time duty.

The Cowboys also would like to add depth along the offensive line. Doug Free emerged as a solid contributor in '09, but the team needs to continue drafting and developing young linemen. I'm not sure where the Cowboys will find a place-kicker, but it's certainly a major need.

Adam Schefter updates us on the Beasts in the NFC East.

The Cowboys completed their staff by hiring Bobby King to replace Dat Nguyen as a defensive assistant coach. The team will also bring in Keith O'Quinn to serve as an offensive quality control scout.

Also expected to join the coaching staff is Keith O'Quinn, a former scout for the team who served as Director of Pro Scouting for Cleveland in 2009. When Mike Holmgren took over as president of the Browns, O'Quinn was among the front office personnel let go, and he now rejoins the team with whom he broke into the NFL as a scout in 2006. O'Quinn will take a share of the offensive quality control responsibilities, working on advanced scouting of upcoming opposing defenses. Given his experience evaluating talent for the team, O'Quinn could also contribute to the Cowboys' scouting department.

Special teams coach, Joe DeCamillis, will not join the coaching staff for the NFL Combine because of pain in his neck and back.

DeCamillis is still having problems related to the spine injury. As a result, he's going to miss the NFL scouting combine so he can go to Atlanta for a consultation with spinal specialists.

"It might be my impatience, but I want to do all I can to get some of this pain to go away,'' DeCamillis told David Moore of the Dallas Morning News. "With another set of eyes, maybe they can do something. Hopefully, they can give me some hope that will happen.''

The Cowboys are looking into conducting part of training camp in San Antonio and part back in Oxnard, CA.

If the Cowboys are selected for the preseason-opening Hall of Fame Game on Aug. 8, they would start training about two weeks earlier than most teams. If that happens, the Cowboys could open camp in San Antonio for 2-3 weeks then travel to Canton, Ohio, for the game. After that, they could potentially finish camp in Oxnard.

"We had a conversation with the Cowboys. Nothing is definite, but they were just exploring some options," Oxnard City Manager Ed Sotelo told to the Ventura County (Calif.) Star. "There could be the possibility of them returning."

San Antonio city officials love having the Cowboys' camp at the Alamodome, but are understanding in that training part of the time in California could be beneficial to the team. The Cowboys will determine how to split practice time between the two cities once they see when their expected west coast preseason dates are scheduled.

"The good news is San Antonio would have the exciting part of training camp, the first two weeks," said former city council member Jeff Webster, who helps the Cowboys in their dealings with the city. "The Cowboys are committed to San Antonio. They have a real affinity for San Antonio, and they were thrilled with last year’s camp."

Alan Ball and Duke Preston each had minor ankle surgery.

Nick Folk is supposed to be in New York auditioning for a job.

With Jay Feely being a unrestricted free agent, it is hardly surprising to see the Jets just doing their due diligence, especially with a 25 year old kicker who has been shown to be reliable in the past. Folk will also audition with the Giants while he is in town.

Hat tip to elFURIOSOpozo for the FanPost.

DC.com continues its Roster Rundown series with backup QB Stephen McGee.

He's got a strong arm and some mobility, but played in a run-oriented offense for most of his college career and didn't have the experience of a pro style until he got to the NFL. But the Cowboys were pleased with his progress as a rookie and while it's not likely he will overtake Jon Kitna for the No. 2 job this off-season and training camp, McGee will get a chance. Don't expect the Cowboys to close the door on any possibility regarding the second position. And if McGee comes back this off-season and proves he can be a holder on field goals and extra points, that would be another feather in his cap.

Former sideline-hopping return man, Woody Dantzler, will be playing semi-pro football.

Today, Dantzler is 30, and he is busy. He swears he can’t close his eyes and envision the last snap he took on a football field. But, testament to Dantzler’s greatness, he is ready to put on the pads again, this time as a member of the Southern Indoor Football League’s Greenville Force.

If you are on twitter, follow the real Miles Austin (MilesAustinIII), Kevin Ogletree (KOforPrez), Jesse Holley (Mr4thAndLong), Jason Williams (TheRealJwill58), Marcus Dixon (marcusdixon92), and Marc Colombo (marccolombo).

Marc Colombo's official website rocks!.

The final tally for the Van Huesen Fan's Choice Hall of Fame vote is complete, and resulted in Emmitt Smith finishing second overall to Jerry Rice with 110,760 votes to Rice's 118,887.

Other Cowboys voted on were:

Ed "Too Tall" Jones who impressively finished third overall with 70,058 votes.

Right behind "Too Tall" in fourth place is Charles Haley with 65,046 votes.

Three Cowboys in the top five! For a while there I was getting worried that the Raiders' fans were going to get Ray Guy up over one of the 'Boys. Way to be involved Cowboys fans!

If you're still in the voting mood, the NFL is running its Fan Rankings for the 2010 season. So far, the fan community has the Cowboys ranked fifth overall in the league.

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If I'm the Cowboys...

…and the Dolphins force you to make a decision of Austin or a 1 and a 3, I’m keeping Austin. It’s a no-brainer. The problem is, of course, with RFA offers, the Dolphins can throw a poison pill in there much the same way the Vikings did when they signed Hutchinson away from the Seahawks. The Cowboys better stop screwing around and pony up the cash… and it’ll likely cost them Roy Williams money.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

+1

New Orleans won a Super Bowl, and Bye Dawk is getting my first plus 1.

Hell is frozen.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

No way that Austin deserves Roy Williams type money

Miles can’t block worth a damn

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Feb 19, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Correction

Not a fair comparison. Miles is a really good blocker compared to the rest of the WR’s in the league. He’s not in Roy Williams’ class as a blocker, but who is…

by JimmyJohnson on Feb 20, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh Stephen I thought you were smarter than that....

It would be our luck someone like Miami would give up a first and a three for Miles….you dont take that chance period. In a year that there wont be alot of UFAs this could be the year teams part with some draft picks. If you tender Miles with a first and three then be prepared to give him a long term extension very soon, if not then place the franchise tag on him and wait on giving him a long term deal….

"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham

by Boyzfan94 on Feb 19, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

Ideally, I’d like to see the Jets revisit their interest in Austin this year – That way, the 1 and 3 the Cowboys would receive would be the 29th overall pick and a late 3.

Get it done, Jets! J-E-T-S… JETS JETS JETS!

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Good points, guys.

Plus, a team that wants to penny pinch this year may be more willing to give up their first round pick—seeing that one of the issues with the CBA will be for a rookie salary cap beginning 20111.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, not that far ahead...just 2011.

Damn coffee.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Technically..

They’d have put out a serious $ offer to lure Austin away from Dallas, so even if they got rid of those picks they wouldn’t really be penny pinching.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I meant waiting to see how the rookie salary cap pans out.

Relatively, rookies may be cheaper next year if the CBA agrees on that cap. This may make trading for a ready player like Austin seem like the better alternative to paying some young hopeful.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

What is that? Like 18,000 years from now?

Austin would be way too old.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

by White Wolf on Feb 19, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Can You say Tampa Bay?

They love to pinch pennies and they need recievers,…………Wait!,…..I think thier penny pinching over rides everything, they won’t fork over the money for Austin, but it would be a good trade, could get a Top LT

by bad knees on Feb 19, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

They just signed Donte Stallworth though.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Harbaugh took a flier on a guy he coached in Philly, but I doubt they feel he’s some sort of answer to their gaping hole at WR.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I know; I was just being ornery.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

"Now, I may be a postmaster but I'm also a general..."

“…and it’s my job to, by God, get things done.”

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, well done.

My other favorite work of his is his pronunciation of “Diabeetis,” not to make light of diabetes, of course.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

And the man can sell oatmeal.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

That he can...

it keeps me regular.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mon... Wilford was great

playing Dr. Blair in ‘The Thing’… of course, I thing he looked better after the thing took him over.. but I digress.

by Road Warrior on Feb 19, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

shoulda been "by golly" I think

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

No I think it’s God. You had it right the first time.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The Poison Pill thing worries me

Because it’s relatively easy to create one, it just depends on how scummy another team is willing to be. Some team puts a clause in the offer to Miles that says “Austin receives a $7MM bonus if he does not lead his team in receptions,” and we’re screwed. Because he would certainly lead the Dolphins but Witten will likely lead the Cowboys. Or any other ridiculous clause that makes it prohibitively expensive for the Cowboys to sign him.

And Stephen, Parcells gave up a 1st and 3rd for Curtis Martin, so let’s not start throwing around comments like “No one ever does that.”

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Feb 19, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

+19

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Some team puts a clause in the offer to Miles that says "Austin receives a $7MM bonus if he does not lead his team in receptions," and we’re screwed. Because he would certainly lead the Dolphins but Witten will likely lead the Cowboys. Or any other ridiculous clause that makes it prohibitively expensive for the Cowboys to sign him.

They’re usually a lot worse than that. When the Seahawks offered a contract to Nate Burleson stealing him away from the Vikings, the contract was a 7 year deal for $49 million, although not much of the $49M was guaranteed – Nobody would ever guarantee Nate Burleson $49M. However, the contract stipulated that if Burleson were to play five or more games in the state of Minnesota during any single season over the life of the contract, the entire $49 million would become guaranteed. Since obviously the Vikes play 8 home games in Minnesota every year, they’d have to guarantee the $49M.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I had hope Taglibue would find a way to ban these, too bad he was unable too

by AustonianAggie on Feb 19, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Dont you mean

Roger Goodell?

The Lyle Leong Bandwagon will Continue to Roll!!!

Respect Everyone....Fear No One!

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Feb 19, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

No...

Goodell wasn’t the commish when that went down.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't This Burleson Pure Retaliation

. . . for the Vikings who stole Hutchison first??

by Iowacowboy on Feb 19, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Kirwin on Austin

DCFanatic posted on the Austin franchise/tender, and he has a link to a show he called into with Pat Kirwin talking about it, and Kirwin mentions the Ravens as possibly being interested in Austin, they could really use help at WR. Austin is the “cleanest” of the 3 main WRs on the RFA market (B. Edwards, B. Marshall & Austin), and other teams could certainly be interesting in going after him for a 1st & a 3rd. and with the Ravens’ 25th overall pick, there’s a big diff between the value of a high 1st & 3rd from the dolphins vs. a low 1st & 3rd from the ravens.

What they don’t get into is how the Cowboys match an offer and if/how a poison pill might be used. That’s the big questions. The Cowboys sound like they’ll do whatever they have to to keep him, but not putting the franchise tag on him leaves some uncertainty and it’s not particularly comforting.

by scottmaui on Feb 19, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

They need to sign

Austin but it seems they don’t want to pay the 9+ million to franchise him. This is a very ugly door that is being left open.

by jevans1729 on Feb 19, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't they just "franchise" him in name while they crunch out a contract extension.

It doesn’t have to be six years or anything, but a three-year would keep him here.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know if

it is legal to do that or not. At first blush, it looks like one of those things the players union would scream about. You know like “We franchised him for 9+ mil to keep him away from everyone else but we were only fooling.”

by jevans1729 on Feb 19, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Was he being facetious?

What idiot would give up a 1st and 3rd for a WR?

Us, last year for RW.

by JimmyJohnson on Feb 20, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Doh!

Oh, the irony.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Feb 20, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Austin

seems confident that a deal will be worked out. He wants to be in Dallas and they want him there. If Miami needs a receiver we can give them Roy.

by oldboysfan on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

According to some people...

Dallas should just let him go because apparently he isn’t a number 1 WR because Roy Williams had a big year and then failed.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

That was just an unbelievable argument on so many levels.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Feb 19, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

No one said that

feel free to post a quote where someone said than and disprove me.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 19, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

The lack of turnovers is exactly the reason the Cowboys should

look at the safety position in the draft. Just about every elite defense in the last few years has had great safety play, specifically in the area of creating turnovers. This is something that Dallas has lacked, and it isn’t that surprising when our safeties had a combined 1 INT this year. If we could add a guy with some playmaking ability, that would put this defense at a whole new level since we would have a playmaker at every level of the defense (Rat on D-line, Ware and Spencer at LB, and Jenkins at CB).

Along the same lines, I really hope Jason Williams is getting ready for the spotlight that is going to be on him when training camp comes around. He is physically very gifted, and the Cowboys are going to need him to get the rest of the game down so he can come in and improve this defense’s sideline to sideline ability. I would also add that looking at his performance in college (albeit not in FCS), the guy clearly has experience at being a playmaker (11 FF in his last two years).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Feb 19, 2010 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

On the large scale of things, I think O-line is the biggest need.

However, it is not like our defense can not be improved. In fact, I would go so far as to say that this defense has a lot of room to improve next year. I know that seems crazy considering they were second in the league in points allowed, but their lack of turnovers forced and the fact that they were 9th in yards allowed would suggest this team can still improve its defense. Can you imagine if this defense had forced more turnovers and actually subsidized our sometimes struggling offense with short fields? It is for this reason that I think we need to upgrade our safety play; in today’s NFL the safety for a great defense is expected to be a playmaker and the Cowboys clearly do not have that right now. Trust me, I want to upgrade our O-line as well (1st round hopefully), but let’s not let that keep us from recognizing where upgrades can be made. The positive side is that this draft could have as many as four safeties out of the top six drop into the second round for us to hopefully gobble near the end of round two (Burnett, Allen, Mays, and Chad Jones).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Feb 19, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Burnett..

Allen or Jones please, not a big fan of Mays but if he falls to the second (aka Darth Davis has a stroke and the Raiders don’t just pick the fastest players) I don’t think I would mind him too much then.
I like Jones’ size and speed 230 lbs running high 4.4s to low 4.5s. Mays may be a little faster which is why he is rated as a 1st rounder. Burnett while still fast isn’t as fast as the other 2 but is very smart and has great hands and Allen is a very intelligent player w/ good physical tools

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 19, 2010 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Alright you guys are making me stress

but 1) Bill Parcles used to talk about not poaching his fraternity’s players.
2) BP knew of Miles Austin last year, and could of gotten him for a 2nd Rounder then

by AustonianAggie on Feb 19, 2010 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

Think the Boys keep Austin but...

if the deal would go down here`s a mock

  1. Mike Iupati OG Idaho
  2. 27 trade this pick for Brandon Marshall
  3. Morgan Burnett FS Georgia Tech
  4. Lamarr Houston DT Texas
  5. Donovan Warren CB Michigan
  6. Roddrick Muckelroy OLB Texas
  7. Derek Hardman OT Eastern Kentucky
  8. Trindon Holliday WR LSU

by ziggy19 on Feb 19, 2010 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

whoa that went haywire

picks are 12 overall / 27/ 59/ 73/90/ 126/ 200/237

by ziggy19 on Feb 19, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

What about this

Lose Austin, but have enough ammo to go get LB McClain from Alabama and get new OL for the future. We would have Ware, Spencer, McClain and hopefully Jason Williams at linebacker. But the key would be changing the type of O lineman we draft. If we draft lineman similar to Free, we would not have to depend on passing as much so losing Austin would not hurt as much in the long term.

by CowboyLang on Feb 19, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't think there's any way we get B Marshall

He wants big $$$, we’re already overpaying RW and Miles will be due a large contract next year. That’s just too much to invest in one position.

Re: Miles for a #2 last offseason and the Jets didn’t pull the trigger – he was largely unproven, starting to get a rep for injury-prone, but did show flashes. This was teh first season he put it all together. Agree we do have to be cognizant of someone taking a serious run at him and forcing up the price to keephim

I'm not losing my memory, I'm living in the now

by tdships on Feb 19, 2010 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

That was only if Miami steals Austin away

If they do we NEED a proven WR, and Marshall is the best one out there

by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 19, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Quick question

If a team with 2 first round picks signs one of your players under the 1st and 3rd round tender then do you get that teams original 1st round pick or the higher of the two picks.

by jack dein on Feb 19, 2010 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

I guess I am a little surprised by you guys' reactions

The 12th overall and a third round pick seems pretty damn enticing to me. I had a feeling the Roy Williams gaffe would haunt us for years to come. We would probably jump at that offer for Austin if we were getting the return on RW we expected (or at least paid for).

by Dave Chappelle Jr. AKA Felix Jones on Feb 19, 2010 12:41 PM CST reply actions  

Austin, a PROVEN quality player, is worth FAR more than a 1st and 3rd...

I believe the expression is: “a bird in hand is worth two in the tree…”

NO, NO, and by the way NO is the OBVIOUS answer here.

Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.

by DalaiLuke on Feb 19, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

People are way too draft pick crazy these days.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

What? You don't have a Steve Garvey card?

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Rocky Dennis

He swindled his best buddy out of a Rube Walker baseball card by convincing him he needed a Steve Garvey.

Little did his friend know that Rocky had duplicates of the Steve Garvey card.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Correct sir.

Somehow your mentioning how everybody is draft pick crazy reminded me of Rocky’s greed.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, haven’t seen Mask in ages. Might have Netflix that one. My wife will open it up from the mailbox and be like “WTF?!?!?” just like she was when I recently Netflix’d Roadhouse and Leonard Part VI. And yes, I’m not kidding – I Netflix’d Leonard Part VI.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

That Bill Cosby movie?

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup. Beyond awful. Not really even funny on an unintentional level. However… In case you’ve never seen it… Double Trouble – can’t miss.

by JimmyK on Feb 19, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

...or MUST miss!

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

No kiddin..geez.

"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."

by Benthere on Feb 19, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I find it enticing as well, but...

I would look long and hard at this if the #1 was in the 10-15 range. Having two first round picks plus getting that third have the potential to return an awesome draft that sets the foundation for years to come – think Jenkins and Felix Jones or D-ware and Spears.

However, this would be a much easier call if the Cowboys were still a few years away from contending. With the progress made in 2009 coupled with the SB being played in Dallas next season, I don’t think the team should make moves that would be a step back for next season with the promise of paying off down the line. The chips should be All In for 2010. There are certain off-seasons where you make moves designed for immediate success to the possible detriment of the future. IMHO, 2010 is one of those seasons so I say lock Austin up.

by Cowboy.Louie on Feb 19, 2010 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

Yup.

Throw all chips in! Romo is already quite familiar and comfortable with Austin, so I wouldn’t even give him up for anything less than a king’s ransom.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 19, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree

Throwing all in seems too much like 2008.

Or the Joey Galloway trade.

Bad way to run a franchise, going all in when you think your close. Let’s hope Jerry has learned lessons from the past.

Good franchises can compete year in and year out and still build for the future (see, e.g., Colts).

By the way, the 12th overall and a third round for an undrafted free agent is pretty close to a king’s ransom.

But that doesn’t necessarily mean you trade away Austin. I, myself, am on the fence—I think he is good enough that such a trade would be a push.

But please, let’s not put all our eggs in the 2010 basket.

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Feb 20, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong...

I want another dynasty built, not just a single SuperBowl.

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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 20, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Feb 20, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry is right, Austin isn't going anywhere

This draft is supposed the deepest in 30 years, so teams aren’t going to give away premium draft picks like that. There is no way I seeing Miami or anyone else giving up a 1st and 3rd for Austin.

And anyone thinking that taking a teams 1st and 3rd would be worth giving up Austin is absolutely crazy. Nobody, including Dez Bryant, will be polished enough to come in and take over as our #1 receiver, just impossible.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 19, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Geez... hyperbole anyone?

Its not absolutely crazy. Its debatable. Troy thought Jimmy was absolutely crazy to trade Herschel Walker. How’d that turn out.

"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach

by dave33 on Feb 20, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

If this draft had more than one 1st round WR then I think you would consider it. If it was the Dolphins it would be for the 12th overall pick. The problem is that Bryant will be gone by that pick. There’s no way I would do this.

by jack dein on Feb 19, 2010 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

I don't care how many great WR prospects would be there at 12

Austin is better than any rookie WR who will play next season, it’s not even debatable.

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by Terry on Feb 19, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

it’s debatable, but the odds are that they wouldn’t be.

You always have those rookie freaks now and then.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly, Moss is the only one to have ever done it

and I doubt we’ll see the likes of his freakish talent for a long time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 19, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Just saying it...

cooooould happen, but you’re right it probably won’t.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

obviously anything is possible

just like me winning the lottery

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by Terry on Feb 19, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

A question.

Say the Cowboys put the highest tender on Austin, but Miami make a run at him anyway. We have the right to match their contract correct? So a poison pill may come into play. But what if Austin wants to stay in Dallas and refuses to sign the contract with Miami? Would the poison pill still apply?

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 19, 2010 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

He can choose to do anything I'd imagine.

I mean it’s not like you have to go anywhere.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 19, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

So, for example

If he wanted to play in Dallas, nobody could offer him a poison pill type contract because he could just refuse to sign it?

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Feb 20, 2010 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I’m pretty sure.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Feb 21, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Everything I have heard over the last few years

indicates that the owners quietly agreed among themselves that there would be no Poison Pill contracts again. There was a huge stink that time- the only reason it was not banned was that agreement. And while a couple of owners might do it anyway (Danny Boy, Al Davis), I seriously doubt BP would do it anyway and he would NOT do it to a former team.

by burmafrd1944 on Feb 19, 2010 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

About that

I thought Parcells didn’t pilch players from teams who have his former assistants as head coaches. NOT FORMER TEAMS.

by Perry the Platypus on Feb 19, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Can the Cowboys Renegotiate after matching a poison pill

Does anyone know whether the Cowboys could renegotiate after matching another teams poison pill. For example, could they match the Raven’s poison pill, then 2 months later offer Austin $10million additional dollars up front to sign a non-fully guaranteed contract. This may be tempting to Austin since he would’ve already received an enormous bonus 2 month earlier. And there’s always the chance of serious injury in later years.

Would this be possible if we’re in an uncapped year. Would the league allow it?

by CowboyLang on Feb 19, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Could we get a better WR at 12? NO

please name this WR who you know or are at least 75% sure will be better than Austin that will be there at 12?

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by quincyyyyy on Feb 19, 2010 11:42 PM CST reply actions  

Austin

Quincyyyyy,

Was your question directed at me? My suggestion was to make an offer Austin couldn’t refuse. If, for example, he received $15million to signed with the Ravens and their is poison pill and the Boy’s matched it. Then 2 months or a few days later, the Boys approached Austin and proposed to offer him an additional 10mi to renegotiate a non-fully guaranteed deal, he might find it too enticing to resist, considering the risk of injury that would make a poison pill guarantee moot.

by CowboyLang on Feb 20, 2010 12:58 AM CST reply actions  

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