GM Jerry's Draft Board Profile
Over the past 20 years, GM Jerry has settled into a pattern of where he places "value" on the various rounds. He's been amazingly consistent.
[Disclaimer: I am not advocating agreement. In fact, I'm on the record as being vehemently opposed in many circumstances. However, as Rafael has duly noted in his draft previews, there are certain profiles that make up the "rules" by which all Cowboys fans should come to expect]
Round 1: Skill Players - 22 Picks
Now this includes almost all EDGE players. This includes QB, RB, WR, TE, CB, S, DE, OLB. TE and Safety are debatable, but are included for analytical purposes. LT is also included in most definitions of Skill/Edge players, but as I've stated in many posts (ad nauseum), GM Jerry has NEVER taken ANY OL in the 1st Round.
However, GM Jerry has modified his "value chart" somewhat over the years. WR is the most notable. But that's not to say that WR is not "drafted" in the 1st. Jerry has stated that when he trades a 1st Round pick for a WR, he considers that player his 1st Round pick. Given that standard, you have to include the 2 traded for Joey Galloway and 1 for Roy Williams as WR picks, though no player was selected.
There have been 22 draft picks. As stated above, that includes 3 picks for Joey Galloway andRoy Williams. A full 18 have been spent on Edge players. Only Russell Maryland, Kelvin Pritchett, and Robert Jones are exceptions. However, given the "Planet Theory", you could also include DT in the profile, but I didn't.
Another well known trend is that GM Jerry loves to trade down (and often out) of the 1st Round. Seven (7) times we have not selected anyone in the 1st. That's 35% of all GM Jerry drafts! The number rises to an obscene level when picking lower than 20. A cursory guestimate puts it between 2/3 and 3/4 of the time.
Edge Trend Rating: 86% (95% incl Planet Theory DTs)
Round 2: Need - 27 Picks
This round is a little more difficult to label. At first, I was going to label this the Offensive Lineman round. After all, since none are taken in the 1st Round (yeah, yeah, I'll stop) it must be, right? Well, it has been the most prominent (30%), but further analysis saw another trend.
In the Early (JJ) years (89-93), we needed a lot of players. Jerry (and Jimmy) traded down for many more picks in later rounds, and used the ones they kept for needed positions not met in Round 1. Jimmy needed speed on Defense and Dixon Edwards, and Darren Smith fit the bill. They also needed "playmakers" on Offense and Alexander Wright, Jimmy Smith, and Kevin Williams were all attempts at WR.
In the Backup Years (94-99), GM Jerry stated that no one could crack this roster, so he wanted solid backups.
Fully 1/2 were OL, and players like Sherman Williams and Kendall Wadkins were obvious backups. But something else started to show. Quite a few were also replacing players that were being lost in FA or to retirement. Larry Allen (replacing Gogan), Godfrey (Norton), Pittman (Haley), Flo (Tuinei), and Page (Williams) all were targeted to open starting positions.
The Lost Years (00-02), were even more desperate attempts to fill the post Triplet years. Quincy Carter and Antonio Bryant are obvious, but the great search for DBs (00-01) and OL continued right up through the early Parcell years.
The ParcellYears (03-06) saw a true trend. Go for BPA, usually in a need position, at a non-premier (i.e., not a QB or DE/OLB) position. Julius Jones, Kevin Burnett, and Fasano all fit the bill, as did Rogers and Al Johnson.
Lately, the trend from Parcells continues, though with Martellus Bennett the only pick, it may seem that Trader Jerry is back to getting more quantity over the (IMO much needed) quality as in the Jimmy era.
Need Trend Rating: None
Round 3: Sleepers - 26 Picks
What is most evident is that the third round is chock-full of players that either slid down due to size/injuries/character issues (Godfrey Myles, Jimmie Jones, Kenny Wheaton, Coakley/Nguyen, Derrick Ross, Willie Blade, etc.) or are from small schools (Jason Williams, Robert Brewster, Jason Hatcher, Stepfret & Charlie Williams, Clayton Holmes, and most notably Erik Williams). In fact, nearly a third (31%) came from non-Division I schools.
Another trend of the 3rd round is Offensive Lineman, especially Centers. Now the fact that the 3rd is the most common start of the run on Centers, it's not that surprising. Nearly 40% of the picks were on the big uglies.
But the amazing number of "fliers", as defined by the draftniks is amazing. By my count, 20 of the 26 picks would be or were considered "reaches". Only Jason Witten and most of the O-Lineman could be considered "value" picks.
Who? Trend Rating: 77% (31% Small School)
Round 4: The Fallen - 33 Picks (30 for trend)
This is GM Jerry's favorite round. It used to be the start of the 2nd Day (and will now kinda return as the 3rd Day) and was where all the War Rooms got a chance reset their boards. It was a mad dash to grab all those players that had somehow slid past the first 3 rounds and pick up some real value.
And for all his faults, the list of hits in this rounds is quite amazing.
- Tony Tolbert
- Ron Stone
- Brady James
- Chris Canty
- Marion Barber
- Tashard Choice
That's a great foreboding for our recent picks Victor Butler, Brandon Williams and QB McGee. But the list also includes a boatload of highly touted picks (at the time) that were clear busts. "Swervin" Curvin Richards, Derrick Lassic, Willie Jackson, Eric Bjornson, Kareem Larrimore, Alundis Brice, Michael Myers, Markus Steele, Skyler Green and Bruce Thornton all carried high expectations, but ultimately flamed. Several others could be classified as near-misses (Peppi Zellner, Isaiah Stanback).
Boom Trend Rating: 20% (While low, the trend since BP arrived is a quite impressive 63%)
Rounds 5 (21 Picks) & 6 (23 Picks) - The Lost Rounds
This was easy to name. Only one pick in each round (Scandrick in Round 5, Mario Edwards in Round 6) could be considered hits. But even if you include Darrin Hambrick, Pat Watkins, Deon Anderson, John Phillips and David Buehler, the hit rate is pathetic. Nick Folk did not make my "hit" list, so add one to your math if you'd like.
I did not include last year's picks in the trend rating.
Hit Trend Rating: 5% (16% incl Marginal guys listed above with 3 incomplete(s) in last year's draft)
Round 7 - Lucky (27 Picks)
At first I was going to label it "Special Teams", as this was the trend in the early years. But the fact that so many fantastic gems have been scored, I decided to call it what it is...pure, unadulterated, dumb luck. The "Hit" list is amazing.
- Leon Lett
- Brock Marion
- Patrick Crayton
- Jacques Reeves
- Jay Ratliff
Many, including Omar Stoutmire, Nathan Jones, and Alan Ball (among others) could be considered solid contributors, thus "hits" considering the low investment. For the trend rating, I included only the starters.
Hit Trend Rating: 19% (25% incl solid contributors)
Conclusions
- If you're like me, hoping for your pet cat WR or OL in the 1st, you're most likely to be very disappointed. In fact, we're most likely to hear "In the 27th spot, Dallas has made a trade".
- Everyone is going to say "WHO?" in Round 3.
- Round 4 should bring some talent.
- Why even bother drafting in Rounds 5 & 6? It's better to use them as trade bait to move up in the first four rounds or grab a few more 7s.
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I have almost no doubt that we will be trading on draft day. With only 6 picks and no 5th round pick Jerry will move around. Unless someone falls to us at 27 I really don’t see us drafting anyone there. We will either trade it to a team with a high 2nd round pick or get a 1st next year. I still would like us to stay at 27 and take Odrick. I really don’t see any of the tackles dropping to us.
You have one former GM calling this the deepest 1st round since '83
all the teams at the top of the 2nd are trying to trade their 1sts to pick up extra picks in the early 2nd.
Where’s the trade partner coming from? And why would Dallas trade out of what sounds like a rich vein of talent? They might not get an OT or WR there, but they should get a good football player at 27.
Trade with the Patriots in Round One Pick 22
This will jump Dallas ahead of Green Bay and give Dallas a good shot an elite olineman. I think there is enough edge offensive line talent that Bulaga, Lupati or Williams will be on the board at spot 22
I love that idea!
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Iowa do you see any of these guys starting ahead of Flo
I just don’t see it. This team is ready to win right now drafting Flo’s replacement to sit on the bench while we have other areas of need like a replacement for Kosier or a true back up for Kosier, Gurode and Bigg makes more sense to me.
Plus what other pick do you have to give up to move up that much. A 1st and a late 2nd. Unless the guy ends up being a All Pro it will be a wasted pick again. Just like RW2.
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by I'm a Cowboy on Feb 27, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Kosier is less likely to be replaced than Flo
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Flo is not getting replaced..better chance at Kosier.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
ok we get 22 they get 27
I like that part but what else do we throw in for moving up 5 spots? DE Bowen and 27 for 22?
Probably more like our 1st, 3rd, and 7th.
Players don’t have much value on Draft Day.
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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 28, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
I’ll believe this 1st round being as good as 1983 in 10 years if this class does as good. Everyone wants to draw attention to a class by comparing it to ‘83. The 1999 draft was considered the best for QB’s since ‘83.
There’s always teams that want to trade up to grab a player that they wanted that slips. We don’t have the picks to trade up in this draft without giving up this entire draft or a 1st next year. None of the OT’s or Iupati will fall to us.
There should be a lot of good players in this draft but I don’t see many great players.
Nice article, Fighter. Throw out the Cap Hell Years
and how many times did GM Jerry trade out of the 1st? Just wondering because for a while there, he was trading out because he was in cap hell and needed smaller salaries, so that will skew the percentages on trading down a bit. I’m thinking this is a year where we stay put, but I have no support for that other than begin close to SuperBowl and needing more quality than quantity.
Hmmm
get rid of the 6th for more 7ths…sounds good
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 26, 2010 9:25 PM CST reply actions
Really?
How many players on the current 53 do you want to see gone?
Can you list them?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
ooh, ooh, ooh, Mr. Kotter!
How much do I love thee? Let me count the scrubs.
FB – Cricket, Croslin
WR – Hurd (maybe even Manny), Roy Williams (though I know it’s fiscal suicide)
OL – Proctor, Preston, Holland, McQuistan
DL – Siavii
LB – CuJo, Octavian, Stewart
DB – Watkins, Cletis Gordon
I’ll go one further. There are several “starters” or significant backups that I would love to upgrade. My “hit” list would include:
QB – Kitna
WR – Crayton
OL – Kosier, Gurode, Colombo, Flo
DL – Spears, Hatcher
LB – Bobby Carpenter (probably should be on the list above), Brady James
DB – Hamlin, Ball
BTW, the list above would also correspond with my perceptions of the needs on the team. Mainly OL, Safety, ILB, and WR along with a real need for DL depth.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
But you think a ton of 7th round rookies would supplant people like the ones you listed?
Do you know what % of 7th rounders actually make the final 53?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
79% since '01 (86% if you include Manny Johnson)
Overall, around 78% (21 of 27 picks).
At first, I took a cursory glance and came up with 16 for sure (around 60%), but I went ahead and checked. I simply could not remember if players like Tarik Smith, Todderick McIntosh, or Oscar Sturgis actually made the squad…amazing, huh.
They were not, obviously considered hits.
But the point I made above is that not including starters or major contributors, there’s at least a dozen spots that could use an upgrade, and that’s not even taking into account last year’s crop (which was weak by anyone’s standard).
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Why would you count Manny Johnson?
Because then you have to count other seventh round picks that only made the practice squad.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Feb 28, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
More important
Who the heck cares about your #5 WR?
If you have to count on that player for ANYTHING, your season is toast anyway.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Probably true
although Ogletree did make the team last year as the fifth receiver. I will agree though that you shouldn’t count on much from that player.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Hello!? McFly?
The question was counting how many 7th’s make the squad.
But since you asked, Manny Johnson has more potential than Ogletree. At least that’s what the ‘Boys’ War Room thought when they drafted him (and not the Tree).
Dude is big, fast and has a year in our system. That’s got Hurd beat right now.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Let's not use the Dallas War room as the measuring stick
I was asking about globally, not about the draft-challenged Cowboys.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Knock yourself out
I’d love to know the answer as well.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Where's OCC when you need him?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Understood
But I was asking about the entire NFL.
Since 2001, Dallas has had to overhaul its roster because of horrible drafting in prior years under JJ and Lacewell.
The point is that this is not a team with the same issues as in 2001.
This team is on the cusp and roster moves should be made so as to keep the team there, infusing youth where appropriate and experience where needed.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Inspired piece
This was an excellent topic in which to do this type of thorough trend analysis. I can only hope that they are doing this type of performance assessment internally or they should really consider employing you. I’m not prone to exaggeration. It illustrates well the shortcomings of the 5th and 6th round picks and you would HOPE they are honest enough with themselves (Jerry specifically) to evaluate what approach do they need to change to increase their success rate.
This is nice work
thanks for spending the time on this. I really think that the only glaring need that we have going into the draft is safety help (and am afraid that the Eagles will snag our safety away). After that it’s BPA all the way.
Sure we could use OL help, and we’ll draft there for sure, but none of them will be starters next year.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 27, 2010 10:48 AM CST reply actions
Great read!
The 4 and the 7 are good hits…sounds like my set of irons.
You can probably list Mike Myers as a borderline-hit player. He played well in the 4-3 while here and has had a pretty long career in the NFL.
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by Aaron Novinger on Feb 27, 2010 11:05 AM CST reply actions
My favorite irons as well
My problem has always been “Mr. 3-wiggle”.
I wanted to include Mike Myers in the borderline list, but so much was expected of him as a 4th in the “Great DE search” years (94-99) after Haley’s retirement and his career was mostly spent outside the ‘Boys that I just couldn’t…but probably should have.
As an aside, the sheer overloading at a particular position has been a sub-theme in all of GM Jerry’s drafts. The DE flavor of the late 90’s (3 – #1s, 2 – #4s), the “My kingdom for a CB” period after Deion’s departure in the early 00’s (12 DB’s from 00-04), and the latest “LB Obsession” (9 “Premium” picks, incl 3 #1s) seems to be a very inefficient way to solve the talent problems.
Rather than “Operation Overload”, I really like the mix of FAs & strategic draft choices (aka Best Player Available) model that has worked (out of necessity) in filling out the current roster at Safety, OL, WR and TE. Yes, TE is now all draft choices, but for years (until Phillips’ arrival last year), our second and 3rd TEs have been FAs.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
I will be thinking of this Post
when the draft finally gets here.
Here is what I would like to see. Following some of the trends.
1. C/G Starter or ready backup for 3 positions.
2. OT Flo’s future replacement since I see Free starting at RT.
4. S Who Dat from Dat small school.
4. ILB The next Bradie James please set up you are our next big 4th round Boom.
5. No pick traded
6. No pick traded to move up on 4th.
7. CB. I’m feeling lucky.
Quality of Quantity besides we have 3 additional picks from last year that seam like this years picks since we did not see them play very much or at all.
Woodson is a Hall of Famer!!!
I Like it a lot.
No, I LOVE it.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Nice Work, F15
Who knew? :-)
What I wonder is how Jerry stacks up against the other teams relative to hits and misses in the same rounds.
I give Jerry a lot of crap for missing on a lot of players that I have an affinity for after watching them play in college, but maybe he’s not that far off?
I will say that I (along with many others I am sure) have read those 5 and 10-year draft analyses where they illustrate how many of the team’s drafted players over that period became pro bowlers, starters, backups, played for other teams or were no longer in football. Dallas always seems to fare pretty poorly in those and anecdotally, it seems like we miss more than other teams do.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
With no research the Oakland Raiders are the worst 1st round drafting team. Russell, McFadden, Bey. All busts.
Actually
They would not qualify as busts by those publications because they are still on the roster.
A good example is Skyler Green. The guy is out of football and was a 4th rounder. He is a bust.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I wouldn’t really classify Green as a bust. Yeah he did nothing for us but he was a 4th round pick.
Russell was the top pick and has started 25 out of 48 games with 4,083, 18 TD’s and 23 INT. and a 65.2 rating.
McFadden was the 4th overall pick and has 856 rushing yards and 5 TD’s.
Bey had 9 catches last year.
Russell is a bust, McFadden is going down that road but Bey could turn it around.
Is Bobby Carpenter a bust?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Thanks
I stopped writing much for a year due to family (wife’s cancer, dad’s cracked skull), but God willing I’ll be back to my optimistic publishing.
The draft analyses are highly skewed to GM Jerry’s abysmal performances in the late 90’s (chasing shiny things) and the cap strapped early 00’s. Tough to get Pro Bowlers when you have no 1st Rounders or are intentionally drafting backups. Also, team performance drives a lot of those grades, and we sucked for too long.
If you were to grade the past 5 years, Dallas would rank quite high.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
I'm sorry to hear that you had such challenges...
but I know God only throws you what he thinks you can handle.
Yes, this blog is incomplete without your 16-0 predictions for the Cowboys. :-)
Keep it up!
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
At the end of the day, hits and misses are not an important measure of a GM's skills
Wins and losses are the only true measure. Jerry had a lot of lean years, but recenty has had some success
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Don't you feel that hits and misses correlate directly with wins and losses?
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by accidental innuendo on Feb 28, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
didn't realize the 5th and 6th round were so frequently bad
makes the 4th round that much more appealing.
i wouild draft
a t in the 1
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Jerry has stated that when he trades a 1st Round pick for a WR, he considers that player his 1st Round pick. Given that standard, you have to include the 2 traded for Joey Galloway and 1 for Roy Williams as WR picks, though no player was selected.
This though process is the main reason Jerry has been terrible at drafting.
He should lose it immediately.
The Cowboys don’t have one drafted WR on this team.
Jerry has been in Dallas for 20+ years.
In 20 years he has yet to draft a WR that made the Pro Bowl.
Neither of the WR he traded for have made it either.
Actually, t.o. made it his first (and maybe 2nd) year with us
Not to say it was a good deal. Based on production, you have to say it was a good value pickup that cost us no draft picks. Based on the lockerroom cancer and unwanted media attention?…not so much.
Also, Jimmy Smith made multiple Pro Bowls, albeit not with us.
But the point is well taken. However, you could look at most organizations and say the same thing. The position is just so difficult to project. Otherwise, how can you explain the Charles Rogers of the 1st vs the Colstons & Austins that go low or undrafted?
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Wow...that IS notable
Nice comment Sharksbreath.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cut GM Jerry some slack
I’d say his “hit” rate on acquiring WR’s is about 50% via FA/Trade…which is a little above 1st Round WR bust rate.
Hit:
- Keyshawn
- Glenn
- t.o.
Bust:
- Galloway
- Williams
Undecided:
- Ismail
And really, was Galloway that much of a bust? He did start 4 years for us and got us Keyshawn straight up. I’d put him in the “So-so” category with Ismail. Roy’s story has yet to be written (though the first couple of chapters read like a Stephen King novel).
You just have so much vitriol at him trading picks…why? I’ll grant you he’s overpaid some, but he has gotten some pretty good production.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
Peerless Price was a bust, as was the second coming of Alvin Harper
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Amazing that NOT ONE WR on this team arrived via the draft. Are we the only NFL team that can say that?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Yes, Galloway was truly a bust
He didn’t integrate well with the team. Wasn’t he the guy that was going to elongate the team’s dynasty?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
























