Cowboys 2010: Something's Afoot at Valley Ranch
by One.Cool.Customer on Mar 10, 2010 5:00 PM CST
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PrintIt's already almost a week into free agency, and the Cowboys are playing a waiting game so far. Depending on what your expectations were for free agency and later for the draft, no news in this case may be good or bad.
It's not like the Cowboys have not yet shown at least partial glimpses of their hand, but so far we're not clear on how strong a hand Jerry Jones actually has. Is he bluffing? Or does he hold an ace up his sleeve that nobody knows about yet? Here's what we do know:
Jerry Jones famously addressed the gathered masses at the Combine a few days ago and announced that despite finally getting that one coveted playoff win, there was no room for complacency for any player and that he wanted players 'nervous'. With regard to next season's roster, he said he'd be looking for 10-11 new players.
This is a message that, while worded differently, has been fairly consistent coming out of the Cowboys organization.
While Jerry Jones said the club won't focus on one position in this draft, he also said the Cowboys need to make "obvious improvement" in the offensive line. "I'm looking at everything but quarterback," Jerry Jones said. "There's not a position we wouldn't take with that first pick other than quarterback." - DMN
A lot of the focus these past weeks around Cowboys nation has obviously been on the O-line, and it is no secret that our O-line is not getting any younger. But where Jerry Jones is a little more circumspect in his words, Stephen Jones may have provided a clearer glimpse of where the Cowboys could be going:
"I think (releasing veterans) could ultimately happen," Cowboys vice president Stephen Jones told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "It hasn't been decided, but it could ultimately fall that way. I think we've got a lot of young players, if given the opportunity, would probably play better than most people think." - Sporting News
No country for old men?
Take a look at the Cowboys' defensive roster: Only two starters have seen their 30th birthday. The team has an abundance of youth and finished 2nd in scoring this year. Looking for holes? You won't find many.
On offense, outside of the O-line, only Patrick Crayton is 30 or older.
Despite all the public outcry about the age of our O-line, what may have gone quietly unnoticed is that some of the other units on the team have have been getting steadily younger.
The start of another youth movement?
The chart below shows the average age of the Dallas Cowboys starters from 1987 through 2009. To calculate this, I used the average age at the start of the season of each player who started at least one of the 352 individual game starts (22 players x 16 games = 352 game starts).
Call it the law of entropy, call it a logical progression, whatever - the fact is, if you don't work on your roster, it's average age will increase by one year every year. Could the Cowboys use a little roster rejuvenation? From the graph above, it sure looks like it.
Historically speaking
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating a 1989 Jimmy Johnson style youth movement, the team was in a very different situation then.
Remember how the Cowboys basically had an open door policy for free agents, with new free agents signings in what felt like every week? By the end of that season 64 different players had suited up and 36 started games for the Cowboys. In 1990 and 1991, the Cowboys fielded the youngest teams of the last 20+ years, and famously went on to win three Super Bowls.
Of course, the Cowboys also had the Hershel Walker Trade and hit the draft jackpot in three successive years ('88: Michael Irvin, '89: Troy Aikman, '90: Emmitt Smith), but there is a lesson here, and it's actually about what happened or didn't happen after the Super Bowl years.
After a franchise-high average age of 28.9 in 1996, the average age stayed over 28 until the 2001 and 2002 seasons, when many of the remaining Super Bowl winners, most of them well into their 30s by now, as well as some free agent acquisitions who had also 'come of age', eventually retired or moved on. Arguably, the '01-'02 drop in age was less the result of a strategy and more the result of circumstances.
Roster Rejuvenation
The age curve over the last decade has been erratic. The 2009 Cowboys, with an average starter age of 28.0, still rank as one of the older teams in recent franchise history. And this despite dumping T.O. (35 at the time), Zach Thomas (35), Greg Ellis (33), Anthony Henry (32), among others.
'Roster rejuvenation' is a long term strategy. As such it runs counter to a quick fix mentality that is most often evidenced by some free agency signings. Failing to follow that strategy consistently may come back to bite you in a big way - witness Dallas' recently ended 13 year playoff win drought - and you'll find yourself scrambling and trying to plug holes at almost any cost (in dollars or player age) in free agency instead of building for the future.
Who should we target in free agency, and do we have an age limit for potential candidates? Will we see more of the 2009 draft class on the field next season, and would that be a good thing? What gets your vote: youth or experience?
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First to break the news to TEX
“There’s not a position we wouldn’t take with that first pick other than quarterback.”
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
Quarterback Becomes Even More Important
Now that the Cowboys, with their free agent plan – or lack there of – have sent the message that 2010 is not the year to chase a Championship, it becomes even more imperative to draft a quarterback who will lead this team after next year’s work stoppage.
With the addition of a few free agent veterans, for the purpose of contingency/ insurance, Dallas could have made a legitimate run for a 6th Super Bowl Championship this season – a game being played at home. Instead, the likes of Jamal Williams have gone elsewhere and the Cowboys have announced that they are content building for the future. That futures has to include a quarterback under 30.
I knew it wouldnt take
Long for Romo’s age to come up.
by TONYINCC on Mar 10, 2010 5:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, it's not... it's disheartening
Smart would have been loading up on veterans like Jamal Williams and Stephen Neal to make a run at a Super Bowl in an uncapped year before a work stoppage. Instead, the Cowboys brass appear content to write off 2010 and build for the future. That future must include another blue-chip quarterback, and the best way to hit on a franchise signal caller is to use first-round currency.
by Montecito Tex on Mar 10, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
Dude Chill
What makes you think Jamal Williams wanted to be a back up? Granted I thought we should have made a run for him but there are things that we don’t know. I would rather build a team that gets the job done, and get players that want to make a run, not just collect a paycheck. Think man think. Stop being so negative. Remember, everyone wanted the whole roster cut last year. Jerry took control of the situation and built a team out of the ashes of the 08 roster. Have a little faith before we condemn the man because he didnt make a run for every free agent like a cheerleader at a pep rally.
Jamal is done, trust me Ive seen ever Charger game in the last eight years. The Cowboys getting a old NT is going to get them their 6th ring. All they need is another play maker on defense either a safety or ILB, and some youth on the Oline.
Money comment
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 2:53 AM CST up reply actions
Why are you writing the Cowboys off?
As if we aren’t Super Bowl contenders? If we win a super bowl in the next 5 years I can promise you it will be with Romo at quarterback. If we do have a work stoppage, that’s just a year off that means you get a season of not being hit once. A season to let your body heal from whatever reason. And he’ll be what, 32? That’s not the same thing as a rb 32. Nothing in anything I’ve read Has suggested rebuild mode, in fact quite the opposite, I get the sense of confidence in the squad.
Michael Irvin to Keyshawn Johnson "I know where me and Rice belong on the top ten receivers of all time list, but who do you have in the bottom 8?"
by markdamack on Mar 10, 2010 6:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if the cowboys are signing free agents Tex says build thru the draft
if they are not signing free agents then Tex says they should be. Tex is a fictional fan. He is most likely a fan of another team and is only here to aggravate us. This is like the annoying uncle who wont stop telling bad jokes so that he can be amused at those that he riles up. years ago i defended him on some post within theboysblog. but his act got old. a true fan would have had at least one positive thing to say over the last 5 or so years. he is a hater, not a fan.
I'm fairly new here.
I’ve only been lurking around for about a year, and that’s my assessment too. Tex will never be happy with anything the Cowboys do so there is no point in arguing with him at all.
Everybody, let the rampant idiocy float by unnoticed and move on.
Our season is toast...
Because we didn’t sign a backup nose tackle?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team lose a superbowl solely because of their backup nose tackle.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 11, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
Yes Montecito, signing as many free agents as possible is the way to go. Especially the big name ones. They always produce very well.
Wait, are we talking about Madden here, or actual football? I’m unclear.
Mid level, blue-collar veterans... see Keith Brooking
by Montecito Tex on Mar 10, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
What's the contingency plan if/when Ratliff misses time?
by Montecito Tex on Mar 10, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Oh.
When did we sign our mid-level, blue-collar free agent veterans last year? I don’t think it was a week in, was it? In fact, I think Dallas waited quite a bit last year, and many people hysterically panicked early on.
There were alot of average players paid
like super stars. We did that with with RW a year and half ago, see where it got us.
Tex, you do realize free agency isn't over yet?? right??
We can still sign some players, just relax and take your meds, it will be okay.
In Romo we Trust
Who cares?
Dude, you need to put down the Madden controller. Not every free agent that is out there is going to magically fit our scheme. Remember in 08 when our roster was a name drop of who is who in football? It collapsed on us horribly. Jerry made KEY strategic signings and they worked out fine. Have a little faith. Not every deal is a good deal. Free Agency isn’t done with until June. If after June, we haven’t made any moves, then write me. Until then, have some patients. Remember, we have talent on our team also,
patients?
Yep, Tex knows patients. Mental patients. They live in the padded cell next to his…
by greatwhitenorth on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
w.r should be priority after o line
romo will be fine.but they need to get him help.i think you first replace the momentum killer affectionately known as hotel.then you gotta replace williams either through draft,2nd wave of fa’s or from within.how bout drafting one?correct me if im wrong but the last legit wide out that we drafted was in the tom landry days..remember that dude.88 the playmaker.
by milkos1213 on Mar 10, 2010 9:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The Cowboys may be looking to dump some salary.
Jerry said they would wait for the dust to settle. It’s settling. It won’t be long before we pull off a trade. I’m looking at a trade being much more likely than signing a free agent. They could have had Cromartie, but should we really take on a player that has lazy spells? Hell no. I’m guessing Jerry has had a dance partner lined up for a while now. And at this point, if Stephen says it, I’m willing to buy it.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Precisely...
A week into the 2010/11 NFL season it’s apparent that this is a rebuilding/ salary dump year for the Dallas Cowboys. Tex doesn’t have the luxury of time and would rather see the franchise go all in for a Super Bowl, which is being played at home.
by Montecito Tex on Mar 11, 2010 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not talking about getting weaker.
Perhaps Barber goes. Do we get weaker?
Perhaps Flo goes. I think Free is ready.
Perhaps Ken Hamlin goes. Ball or a stud safety from the draft.
Add RW to the wish list, but it ain’t happenin’.
Thinking the Pokes would intentionally get weaker is not in my DNA Tex. That’s the fundamental difference between us.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Squidlo remebers going all in, in the 96 season and again with the signing of Galloway.
I remember salary cap hell, trying to squeeze 1 more SB, before everyone got old or left. I remember losing, poor drafts, and rotten football because of convincing ourselves we are a player or two short.
Squidlo want to go back to the glory days of the late 60s and 70s when year in and and year out a good winning fottball team was put on the field. When every year you had a chance to win it all.
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If Tex wants to be productive, maybe he should go ahead and check out now. Sound football judgement seems to have slipped away from Tex as twilght falls.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Mar 11, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
GET YOUNGER!
Running back – Don’t let Felix and Choice waste their prime years on the bench as a depleted Marion Barber falls down at first contact at the line of scrimmage. This is the #1 most obvious place to “go younger”
O-Line – Most overrated line in the NFL. They have consistaintly come up short in every big game. 4th quarter of ‘07 Giants playoff game. ’08 debacle in Philly. ’09 Metrodome meldown. Every single time this same O-line has fallen apart. I am amazed that people still reference “big Leonard Davis” and how he’s such a great run blocker. Go watch tape of the three goal-line-stands in the Chargers game that the Cowboys ran right at Len’s side and see how amazingly ineffective he was. IT HAS TO CHANGE!
Safety – Halleluijah to Sensabaugh. In most teams he might be a weak link, but his amazingly average safety play is the best pass coverage out of a safety in nearly a decade for our boys. Hamlin, it’s time to go. The first two need to happen, this is one I really hope happens.
Wide Reciever – Patrick Crayton is a guy, he can be replaced by any talented 22 year old. But thank god he’s still there because Roy Williams isn’t even “a guy” he’s an empty jersey. With him on the field it’s 11 defenders vs. 10 Cowboys. I think we’ll see something here but we all know it won’t be enough.
Inside Linebacker – I like Bradie James and I love Keith Brooking but they can be upgraded. The middle of our field got torched in the passing game all season. Neither is a master pressure guy up the middle. We could definately go younger there. Of all the “go younger” spots this one is the most optional. I think that it would definately help, but our season will never be lost because of James and Brooking.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 11, 2010 12:17 AM CST reply actions
I absolutely agree on runningback.
This team needs a two man rotation, and Barber needs to be gone.
I more or less agree on the line too. Colombo’s not worthless, but Davis gets too much credit. He’s good—not fantastic. Kosier’s solid. Adams needed to be gone before this year. And I think as good as he is physically for the position a lot of the line’s problems are from the line calls from Gurode. I just don’t know that he’s as adept at reading the defense as you want your center to be.
Safety you’re more or less on, except, I’d also lump Hamlin in with the average category. If he sticks around another year…eh, but his position could also be improved upon.
Receiver is where we separate. I’m willing to give Roy one more year. There is too much raw talent there for him to be this miserable. If he doesn’t get it going now though? Then he’s done.
I agree totally on inside linebacker. A young draft pick who can jump right in on the nickel and take over full time inside in the future would be great. Whether that turns out to be one of the guys from last year or a high draft pick this year doesn’t matter.
by Arson55 on Mar 11, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They drafted 2 ILB's last season
Jason Williams and Stephen Hodge (he might be more of a nickel LB and ST’er)
Also, Crayton isn’t just a guy, he’s one of the better #3 WRs in the league. 16.8 ypc is nothing to sneeze at. The chances of replacing his production with a rookie are very low.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 2:50 AM CST up reply actions
I agree on Crayton, but
You aren’t looking to necessarily replace him this year..I would love to get a Gilyard/Shipley/Ford in the draft to be a return man, while learning the slot from Crayton, who is great at finding soft spots in coverage. You would fill the need at PR/KR, and be grooming for the future. Can’t have enough slot guys, look at what the Pats found in Edelman this year? He is learning behind probably the greatest slot WRs in the game.
That's a good point
I could see a scenario like this playing out.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Gerode and Big Len
I want to put some numbers in here. Bob Sturm kept track of all the sacks of the season and assigned blame to a lineman when specific blame could be ascertained. Here was the result:
The Rankings for the season in Sacks Allowed among the OL: Adams – 8, Gurode 6, Davis – 5, Colombo – 4, Free – 3, Kosier – 2.
You don’t like to see Adams with 8, but he is the left tacke – you can live with one sack every 2 games off the blind side. What is shocking is Gurode and Davis. Between them they account for 11 sacks as interior linemen!
Then you look at how pathetic our line was at getting a push up the middle, so terrible at converting 3rd and 1.
Why are they there? If Gurode and Davis can’t pass protect and can’t win the battles at the line of scrimmage in the run game – what is their use?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 11, 2010 12:34 AM CST reply actions
Those numbers don't match two other sources I've seen
They also don’t show QB pressures and QB hits, and you’re not showing any proof of run blocking skill.
Check out these sites
They present a much different picture of the OL you might be interested in.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 2:40 AM CST up reply actions
huh
I don’t like those ratings very much. The numbers match up to my own eye test, but the ratings (specifically flo’s) suck.
Yes Romo was sacked from the blind side quite a lot. But he took only 11 hits all year due to flozell’s play. Thats not D+ worthy, thats more like a B imo. Flo consistently kept Romo upright for something like 13/16 games played. Not many LTs can say that.
Meanwhile, Gurode and Davis play much easier positions in pass protection, and time and again they seemed to struggle with the A gap blitz and delayed blitzes. I don’t agree at all with giving Davis an A in pass protection. It seems to me that from a positional standpoint, Flo and Davis should be rated overall about equal considering the major disparity in job difficulty.
Pro Football Focus...
Says that Tony Romo was the 15th best QB in the league last year, and that David Buehler was the 8th best kicker in the league at kickoffs. Their stats vary from official NFL stats, even on static areas that are not open to interpretation such as touchbacks and number of kickoffs (either it is touchback or it isn’t, there is no judgement call.) I’m not discounting what they do, I just think it’s important to take it with a grain of salt.
by Baked Potato Soup on Mar 11, 2010 3:26 AM CST up reply actions
+1
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 11, 2010 3:57 AM CST up reply actions
I don't understand their rankings at all.
For example, they had David Garrard of the Jaguars ranked above Tony Romo. This despite Romo having a higher completion percentage, more yards, more yards/attempt, more touchdowns, fewer interceptions, fewer deflected passes, and fewer sacks. In virtually every way a quarterback could be better, Romo was better and Garrard was ranked ahead of him? I’m not even talking about just overall where Garrard gets a big boost because of his rating in their running category. According to them Garrard was a better passer too.
That’s officially stupid, and I shun that site.
I agree...
I don’t understand that at all.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 11, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't get the ranking for Romo either
I looked at the different stats they used and couldn’t come up with a scenario where he’d be that low.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
No, it's proprietary from what I understand
It’s basically a black box: numbers go in, something secret happens, other numbers come out.
Until I know how they calculate their ratings, I ignore them completely. The other stats I find usefull, even though they may not always match the official NFL data.
by One.Cool.Customer on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
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1. Steal Underwear
2. ?
3. Profit!
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Mar 11, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's like the derivatives market
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
get it right
Irvin wasn’t a Jimmy pick but a previous pick by Gil Brandt who got hurt and Jimmy wondered if he still had his speed after the knee injury.
Troy Aikman was going to be Landrys pick as well. Not sure Jimmy was sold on Troy either.
Jimmy through that trade did get Emmitt, Maryland etc.
The article doesn't say that Irvin was a Jimmy pick
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 11, 2010 5:56 AM CST up reply actions
AGE is less then it seems
If we were to get rid of Brooking and Adams, our roster age would drop way down. So this age thing is meaningless. If 2 players make all that much difference then the stat is a joke. The only area that we need to start getting younger is the O line, which is not as bad as some here claim.
I like this
Restricted free agent FS O.J. Atogwe is reportedly “on the Cowboys’ radar.”
It doesn’t say much for Ken Hamlin’s standing with the club. Atogwe offers superior playmaking ability while Hamlin remains a prime candidate for release with $6 million due this season.
I wouldn't mind Atogwe on the Cowboys.
My only problem with that is he’ll be 29 when the season starts. He’s only a few months younger then Hamlin. Atogwe is more of a playmaker than Hamlin has ever been, but I’d rather they actually try to get better andyounger at the position rather than keep going after these guys who have been floating around the league for several years.
Better and younger is ideal, but I will take Better only
The Cowboys championship window is open NOW, and those windows do not stay open very long
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I'm not saying I wouldn't take Atogwe at the right price.
I’m just hoping that something like a second round draft choice would also be coming.
I could really see the Cowboys moving out of the first in this draft unless some startling value drops to 27. Jerry likes picks (and that’s actually one place I agree with him), and that 2nd round talent is where this draft looks good. Interior line and safety could both be potentially addressed there.
Sign Atogwe then draft a young S in the 2nd or 3rd
It gives us much more leeway!
Exactly.
I’m just hoping they don’t pick up Atogwe or Bethea and are suddenly like, ‘Okay, safety fixed.’ And then ignore the position on draft day.
Interior offensive line and safety need to be addressed in the draft and early on too. I’d add offensive tackle too, but overall I don’t expect good value to be available at the Cowboys picks.
I would almost be willing to trade for Jahari Evans and give the Saints our 1rst and 3rd.
He is the 2nd best OG in the NFL to me. Only Steve Hutchinsons is better and Evans is much younger.
Hutchinson is very inconsistent.
Especially lately. I’m not even sure I’d consider him one of the best these days, much less the best.
Evans is pretty damned good, but there isn’t a guard in the league who is 1st and 3rd good. Maybe I’d give up that much for a center (A center—Mangold is that good—but the Jets would say, ‘F you’), and certainly a tackle, but guard play isn’t that vital or that hard to find that I’d give up a first. It’s only the rare guard that I’d be willing to consider drafting in the first and trading that high a pick is right out.
Giving up and 1st and 3rd for a guard in moronic
No guard is worth that much compensation.
In Romo we Trust
Odd.
I’m agreeing wholeheartedly with Terry.
Now if I ever agree with Montecito Tex that’s a sure sign I need to shoot myself.
Further Research
Using the graph above i plotted total wins for each year with surprising results. Though im unable to post the image here, the correlation for the Cowboys starter age and wins over the last 20 years is surprising. Wins and loses spike in the direction of team age and this isn’t just an early 90’s Cowboys phenomenon. The average age per starter in ‘96 was the highest (over 28 and half) in the last 20 years and that team produced a 10 win season. ’97 was second highest avg age and produced only 6 wins. 2000 (28.5) 5 wins, 2002 was a low for both wins and age (a shade over 26) but was followed in 03 with a spike to 10 wins. 2004 had the team over an average age of 28 again and wins dipped back to 6. From 2004 on the correlation becomes even stronger with age and win/lose spikes almost mirroring each other. 2007 Cowboys was the third youngest starter average age team since 2004 and 1994 and produced 13 wins. 2008 spiked over 28 and half and wins, you guessed it, dipped to 9 with last year age/wins heading in opposite directions as the team got younger at starter positions. Obviously a lot of different things plays a part in a teams season and there is a lot to account for in any year, injury’s, talent, the Tuna’s arrival and the a new approach to drafting and FA philosophy. The saying that football is a young mans game has some truth, the Cowboys recent success certainly confirms this. I wouldn’t be so foolish to believe age is everything, but considering younger players can be hungrier and healthier, it has to be considered.
"Defeat is not the worst of failures. Not to have tried is the true failure."
I wondered this myself after looking at the numbers
not so much the season, but how “fresh” they are at the end of the season when the playoffs come. When your O-line is all 30-something, it could be almost predictable that they play much worse as the wear and tear hits them. We’ve seen the results and many blame Phillips, Garrett, Romo and Jerry (just because) but maybe it’s just old age…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Good point
I’ve wondered about this since the 2007 playoff game. The entire line was crumbling in the 2nd half. They could barely get lined up and snap the ball in synch in the 4thQ. They looked like a group that was physically spent.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 11, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Moral of the Story:
Find some team to rip off a la the Herschel Walker trade or you can kiss your dreams of a second dynasty goodbye!
Quick, trade Marion Barber to the Browns for their 2010 1st round pick, 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 4th round pick, and their 2011 first round pick!
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