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Mocking the Cowboys Draft: Six Weeks To Go

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It's mock draft time, and boy, and don't you just love poring over all those mocks. Some you glance at and immediately start shaking your head in utter disbelief. Others you hold up and proclaim to be 32 commandments - like Moses with his two stone tablets on Mount Sinai.

I realize that some people would suggest that not just any draftnik with Internet access can make "official" proclamations… but they are wrong. We can. And we do. All the time. You can go all over the Internet and see!

As always, we recommend starting with Raf's Mock 4.0. In this week's mock draft summary, I've left out the quotes on which players some mock drafts like as our No. 1 pick. Instead, we look at some of the player names that have been linked to the Cowboys recently, and how 20 draftniks like the chances of these players falling all the way to the 27th spot. Enjoy.

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Who'll be available at 27th?

Below is a table from 20 different mock sites and the draft spots they project for some of the players that have been linked with the Cowboys in recent weeks. The total at the bottom shows how many mocks see that particular player available at the 27th or later spot.

If, like me, you were hoping against all odds that Earl Thomas would somehow fall to us, abandon all hope. Some of the sites listed are clearly more reputable than others, but if you put any stock in these mocks, we'd likely have to trade up for Earl Thomas.

Also note how almost half of the mockers have Bruce Campbell going to Oakland with the eighth pick. Imagine the turmoil that would ensue if Al Davis suddenly decides to do one of his off-the-wall picks in the eighth spot.

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Dallas Cowboys Mock Draft overview (min. three rounds deep, new picks highlighted in bold)


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Rafael Vela @ BloggingTheBoys Mock 4.0

3/13/2010 Kyle Wilson, CB,  Boise State Carlton Mitchell, WR, South Florida Ed Wang, OT, Virginia Tech Kevin Matthews, C, Texas A&M

Drafttek 3/13/2010 Maurkice Pouncey, OG/C, Florida
Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana
Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson
Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
Myron Rolle, FS, Florida State
Tony Washington, OT, Abilene Christian
Draftsite 3/13/2010 Charles Brown, OT, USC
Eric Norwood, DE, South Carolina
J.D. Walton, C, Baylor
Kyle McCarthy, S, Notre Dame
Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green
Darius Marshall, RB, Marshall
Draft Zoo 3/13/2010 Taylor Mays, S, USC
Vlad Ducasse, OG, UMass
Andre Roberts, WR, Citadel



NE Patriots Draft 3/13/2010 Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
Brandon Lafell, WR, LSU
Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
Micah Johnson, LB, Kentucky


Football Draft Analysis 3/10/2010 Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
Sean Lee, LB, Penn State
Donald Butler, LB, Washington
Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson


New NFL draft 3/10/2010 Maurkice Pouncey, OG/C, Florida
Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
Lee Ziemba, OT, Auburn
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Eric Nolson, C, ND

Walter Football 3/9/2010 Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
Alex Carrington, DE/DT, Arkansas State
Major Wright, FS, Florida


New Sport Draft 3/8/2010 Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
Georgie Selvie, DE, South Florida
Darryl Sharpton, LB - Miami Hurricanes
Austen Lane, DE - Murray State


CDS Draft 3/8/2010 Terence Cody, NT, Alabama
Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
Reshad Jones, S, Georgia



No Offseason 3/5/2010 Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
Selvish Capers OT Dallas (West Virginia)
Myron Lewis CB Dallas (Vanderbilt)



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First time I've ever seen Myron Rolle in the 6th.

BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 13, 2010 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

Me too

I don’t think he drops that low, but if Dallas got him in the 6th that is good value IMO.

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 13, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

A 6th is always a crap shoot.

He might be a player given a little time or a special team stud off the bat.

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 13, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't remember Billy Bates being fast

and he was maybe the best to ever play STs in Dallas.

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 13, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

True but he was a total wrecking ball and he came into the league when that was fast. He was also a "football player".

Too many guys on here ramble on and on about how lousy our Safetys are. They are consistently bringing up Hamlins poor tackling(hangover from the Ravens game 2 years ago)speed, bad angles, and, stop me if you have heard this, lack of ballhawking skills.
Then they all jump on Myron Rolle who is slow, takes bad angles, poor tackling, and………………….. lack of ball hawking skills!

Please tell me how this guy is going to help this club. We drafted 12 STers last year. I’d like to go after a guy who can possibly make the team. I’d like to see what Hamlin(rookie from last year) could do. Im just burnt out on a “lack of a ball hawking S” Drafting a guy who starts 3 yearsand has 2 picks isnt drafting a ball hawk.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 13, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude...

It’s the sixth round and he’s an extremely talented player, he’s teetering between med-school and the NFL. I want Myron Rolle. My dream draft would probably be:

Pouncey/Iupati/Campbell or another top rated tackle in the first…maybe Odrick if they let Spears go, but that’s not something I’d be too keen on. Earl Thomas would be nice too.

Nate Allen or Reshad/Chad Jones in the second

Brandon Stokley or Mardy Gillyard in the 3rd….preference on Stokely

Toby Gehart in the 4th

Myron Rolle in the 6th and a player with upside in the 7th.

I know that’s perhaps two safties, but if they draft Thomas first they need to go OL in the 2nd.

by Omar Little on Mar 13, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Another awesome scenario...

Thomas in the first/Ducasse in the 2nd/ Reshad or Chad Jones in the third/Stokely in the 4th/Rolle in the 6th and Washington in the 7th.

by Omar Little on Mar 13, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

If he cant make the team or make the team better then why draft him.

Do you think his rhodes scholar made him a better football player. I dont.
There is a Myles Austin or Tony Romo out there sliding though the cracks at a smaller school. I want to try and find that guy.

He is not extremely talented, no speed, no picks, and no instincts. Every body is smoking what the media is rolling.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 13, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

"That Guy"

Well, the Cowboys are always amongst the tops that sign UDFAs, all those guys were UDFAs. I’m sure the Cowboys that have some guys in mind, but the things about slipping from the cracks…is that they slip through the cracks. Meaning that no one takes them, so there’s no need in spending a draft pick on them, when you can take a more coveted player that has a bit more upside. Myron Rolle took a year off to go to Oxford, he played well at FSU, and everyone says that he had the potential to be a third round pick…most sixth rounders don’t amount to anything, so he’d be a risk worth taking in the sixth.

by Omar Little on Mar 13, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

What is one of the biggest complaints about our D?

Lack of TOs from the position of our safetys. How does a guy with 4.67 speed and 2 picks in 3 years and 1 year off to go to oxford improve that. He doesnt.
my main point about players sliding though cracks has to do with there is very good talent still out there that could make us better. Lets try and draft a guy who has a better chance to make it.
Lets not draft a guy who is already on the roster.(Ken Hamlin)

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 13, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

He ran a 4.59 precombine, furthermore, he was third team all American his final year and a freshman All-American. So he has played well, and in the 6th round I’m not sure you’ll find a better player.

by Omar Little on Mar 15, 2010 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is not a a ball hawk and 4.59 isnt safety speed without incredible instincts.

2 picks in 3 years doesnt indicate good instincts. We are talking about him because he is a nice yong man who got a rhodes scholarship. Not because of his potential to be a safety.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 15, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose you would have never drafted Jerry Rice then

after he ran a 4.6 at the combine?? Right?? Safety is much more about instincts and intelligence than pure speed.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 15, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would have drafted Rice based on the fact he dominated his opponents.

Never got caught from behind and clearly was a guy that played faster than he ran.

So, Einstein, where is your evidence of good instincts or that he plays faster than he times. 2 picks in 3 years say only it all.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 15, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never claimed he was a stud safety

but to say he has no chance to make the team as a 6th rd pick because he ran a 4.6 is nonsense.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said he ran a 4.67 and had 2 picks in 3 years.

He took a year off to go to England. A few FSU fans on this site say he is overrated. I also said we have 3 similar guys on our roster who I believe he has no chance to beat out.

Im sorry but slow S’s who dont tackle well, take bad angles, and are anti-ballhawks are not in demand.

The speed would mean nothing to me if he 15-20 picks during his career.
I also never said he couldnt play in this league I just dont believe he can play in this league for us.
If I dont think he can make this team then why pick him. Trade that pick for a higher pick next year but dont waste on a guy that you dont think can make our roster.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 15, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

who are the safeties he has no chance to beat out??

If you say Watkins, I’m going to LOL.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 16, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watkins value is 3rd safety which means they consider him a STs demon.

He doesnt have to beat out Watkins as a S. He has to beat out Watkins as a STer.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 24, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

but a lousy football pick

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Mar 14, 2010 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm Drafttek or Walter Football

both are very nice, but I would say Drafttek wins this week in best Cowboys mock
Pouncey, Saffold and Washington are all good Olineman w/ the tools to become starters, Ford would step in as our KR, while Arenas would be our PR and then Rolle would be our new FS, which would probably take a year of being in the nfl before he is ready

by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 13, 2010 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Drafttek

would be my preference too. Really like first two picks on OL.

by Austin15 on Mar 13, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Washington in the 7th is doubtful.

 I don’t think he drops that far even with the warts that have come up lately, but that would be a steal if he drops to them in the 6th or 7th.

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 13, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think I'm judgemental but

I would have a hard time cheering for a dude that got with his sister. I mean yuck

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 13, 2010 3:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

nice

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 13, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

that settles it

Eagles need to draft him

Don't Panic!!!

by levcd on Mar 13, 2010 11:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Curious...

I loved the chart, but became curious where each one would be picked on average. Obviously, when some of the people aren’t picking past a certain round, it can skew the averages, but I decided to make a chart anyways. Also, Bruce Campbell’s freakish show at the combine has a lot of people thinking the Raiders will pick him, so either he’ll go to the Raiders at eight or low in the first round, but he still is unlikely to make it to the Cowboys.

Here’s what I found (you can select the image and view in a another window to enlarge):

by calmyron on Mar 13, 2010 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Draftek is good but I think I lean more towards Walter.

A mauler at G, a thumper at inside LB, a great looking DE, and a decent safety from a big time program.
I have been wanting a guy to groom for Brady. Im looking for him to show some small cracks in his game. He has never been the best of run stuffers. Good LB but I wish he had a little more ass to hold POA.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 13, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

I count 46 posts at BtB about the Draft/Free Agency

since Feb. 1st.

Still over a month until the draft! I bet this site hits 100 posts by the time we get there-
which will probably have about 5% accuracy in there predictions.
  Gotta feed that cycle and keep us coming back I guess!

I keep coming here to see if anything’s happened. No FA’s yet.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Mar 13, 2010 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

OCC that chart is my favorite thing you've done so far

that’s a really insightful way at looking at the volume of draft boards

by AustonianAggie on Mar 13, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

Hamlin ran a 4.61

And, while he isn’t a playmaker, his speed is not a weakness in our secondary. Rolle has been known as a playmaker – and a smart guy like him could be very interesting at safety. He is definitely worth a pick from the 4th round down.

by JimmyJohnson on Mar 13, 2010 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not against Rolle...

but when was he a playmaker?

He had one int and one forced fumble in two years.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 13, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Golden Tate

Is his stock up or down recently?

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by Wmillion on Mar 13, 2010 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

I hate them all.

Rafs looks like the best out of all of those to me though but I’m still not a big fan of it.

by DoomsdayD75 on Mar 13, 2010 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

Me too

One thin I hate about all of these mocks is the lack of the playmaking FS, it’s a huge need and JJ emphasizes it whenever he can.

by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 13, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Drafttek is my fav this week

Although I could live without Tony “My favorite movie is Blue Lagoon” Washington.

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 13, 2010 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

I really liked Drafttek as well

Arenas in the 4th and Rolle in the 6th would be excellent value, IMO. Combine that with a good center and a rising OT prospect in the first 2 rounds-and a speedy WR in the 3rd-then we are set. The 7th is basically gravy at that point although I wouldn’t mind taking a flier on a kicker like Hunter Lawrence-(assuming he would still be available)

Adopted Giant: Mike Krukow.
Grab Some Pine, Meat
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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by Gobroks on Mar 13, 2010 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Please

No Cody, Mays or Iupati.

I’m with most of you get someone who can help us next year.

by TCB Orange Dino on Mar 13, 2010 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

Best, Most Reasonable Mock on the Draft Boards.

Here is my list Mock Draft with Draft day Trades and the Point Values associated with each individual picks and my reasoning.

I’ve given 2 Scenarios

Tell me what you think.

Scenario 1

Draft Trades:

27 ( 680 ) w/ Raiders for 39 ( 510 ) and 85 ( 165 )

85 ( 165 ) and 90 ( 140 ) w/ Browns 71 ( 235 ), 133 ( 40 ) and 176 ( 22 )

133 ( 40 ) and 186 ( 18 ) w/ Colts for 126 ( 46 )

Final Draft Positions:

2) 39 2) 59 3) 71 4) 122 5) 126 6) 176 7) 213

2) 39 Dexter McCluster 5’9 175 RB/WR/RS Mississippi

He tied for the team lead with 44 receptions in 2008, but rushed for more yardage (655) than he totaled as a receiver (625). Lining up at wide receiver, running back, returner and even quarterback in head coach Houston Nutt’s offense in 2008, McCluster was one of only two players to rank in the top 10 in the SEC in rushing (50.4 yards per game), receptions (3.38 per game), receiving yardage (48.1) and all-purpose yards (98.5). The other? Florida’s Percy Harvin, who went on to become the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year for the Vikings in 2009.

Ole Miss running back Dexter McCluster says he’s the next Chris Johnson – minus the gold teeth. He watches the Titans running back’s highlight reel, including college games. Before he runs his 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine, McCluster plans to pull out a laptop and watch Johnson’s 40 here in 2008, when he ran a 4.24. “He has some crazy moves,” McCluster said. "When I am watching him, I feel like I am watching myself

2) 59 Jacoby Ford 5’9 186 WR/RS/RB Clemson

Ford is a pure deep threat who combined with running back C.J. Spiller to give the Tigers one of the most dynamic big-play duos in the country in 2009. Despite starting only 27 career games, Ford had seven touchdowns of 50-plus yards. Used as a receiver, running back, returner and even at quarterback, Ford posted 4,083 all-purpose yards on 297 touches — averaging an eye-popping 13.75 yards per touch — and 21 career touchdowns (15 receiving, two rushing, one throwing, two as a kick returner, one as a punt returner). Any questions about Ford’s pure speed subsided when he won the 60-meter dash (6.52 seconds) in the NCAA Indoor Track and Field Championships in March 2009

According to an NFL scout who, along with dozens of others, was keeping his own stopwatch on Ford, the 5-foot-8, 182-pound receiver clocked in at hand times ranging between 4.18 and 4.23 seconds. The official (electronic) combine record is 4.24, set in 2008 by Chris Johnson, now of the Tennessee Titans. Ford’s electronic time posted on NFL.com was 4.28.

3) 71 Jared Veldheer 6’8 320 OT Hillsdale

The sub-five-second 40-yard times posted by Maryland’s Bruce Campbell and Oklahoma’s Trent Williams stole the headlines among offensive tackles Saturday, but the performance Hillsdale’s Jared Veldheer did not escape the notice of scouts. He performed well in the vertical (33 inches) and board jumps (9’1"), and displaying the explosion needed to get off the ball quickly and forcefully. Veldheer tied for the top times in the three-cone drill (7.40 seconds) and 20-yard shuttle (4.51), showing he has very nimble feet for their size.

Veldheer also ran very well in the 40 (5.09) He could now possibly be a top pick, based not only on the athleticism at the combine, but also his excellent work in all-star game (Texas vs. the Nation).

4) 122 Linval Joseph 6’5 330 NT East Carolina

The first-team All-Conference USA performer (60 tackles, 22 solo, 13 for loss, three sacks) combines strength and an ability to pressure the quarterback very rarely found in someone his size. He was an immediate contributor for ECU, making 40 tackles, 8.5 for loss, with four starts in 13 games as a freshman. Joseph then earned honorable mention all-conference honors with 43 tackles, eight for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

Looks like a nose tackle but plays like a three-technique, penetrating and getting consistent pressure when fresh. Good closing speed for his size, swallows up quarterbacks that lack great elusiveness. Straight-ahead runner, however with limited lateral quickness, will not break down to change direction in the backfield. Surprising quickness off of the snap for his size, gets into his gap in a hurry when fresh. Does not deliver much pop to his opponent with his hands on initial contact, however, relying on athleticism to get the job done.

4) 126 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6’0 207 CB/FS Indiana ( PA )

His first name means ``Born on Sunday.’’
With eight interceptions and 10 pass breakups in 2008, teams stayed away from Owusu-Ansah last fall. His 27 tackles, two interceptions and four pass breakups were good enough for first-team All-Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference-West and second-team AP Little All-American honors. He was also all-conference as a return specialist. Owusu-Ansah returned three punts and two kickoffs for touchdowns in ’09. In the previous two seasons, he had averaged 10.7 yards on 48 punt returns and 24.8 yards on 33 kickoff returns — returning one punt and one kickoff for TDs in the 2007 season

Reads his receiver carefully on the outside and is quick to jump routes once a hint is given. Reads the quarterback well and has the speed to the ball in the deep half as a safety. Baits the quarterback into thinking the seam route is open. Has prototypical size to be a press corner. Plays with aggression at the line but usually lined up 10 yards off, apparently per coaches’ instructions. Shows good flexibility and very good feet in his pedal, staying low and transitioning well. Typically takes up inside position instead of backpedaling, waiting for the receiver to make his move before jumping the route; gets turned around if receiver breaks inside. Often forces quarterback to look in another direction.

Could flourish in a zone system as a free safety or corner. His size and speed give him good range, and he is strong enough to snatch the ball from the grasp of receivers. Fluid moving from the hash to the sideline. Excellent hands for the interception and is always a threat to take the ball to the end zone. Must prove he has the discipline to come off one receiver to cover another coming into his area.

6) 176 Kavell Conner 6’0 243 ILB Clemson

LB Kavell Conner was Clemson’s leading tackler with 111 stops. He had two sacks and six other quarterback pressures

Scenario 2

27 w/ Raiders for 39 and 85
 
 39) Dexter McCluster 5’9 176 RS/RB/Slot Mississippi
 59) Jared Veldheer 6’8 320 OT Hillsdale
 85) Jerome Murphy 6’1 200 CB/FS/RS South Florida
      or Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6’0 207 CB/FS/RS Indiana ( PA )
 
 90) Dekoda Watson 6’1 240 ILB Florida State
122) Linval Joseph 6’5 328 NT East Carolina
 
186 and 213 w/Browns for 167
 
167) Marshall Newhouse 6’4 320 OG/C TCU

I’d be good with either one. In scenario 2 we get the ILB we need who can cover as well.

by hcprez1 on Mar 13, 2010 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely

love them. Especially if we can sign Sharper or Otogwe.

by Satch30 on Mar 13, 2010 9:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Love the trades

Hate the picks. A RB/KR? As our first pick?

Your pet cat has trumped quincyyyy’s man-crush for Tate.

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson

by Fighter15 on Mar 13, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

McCluster-

I like your picks except for McCluster. After running a slow 40 he probably has dropped out of 2nd rd. And second he’s going to be a pretty similar player to Ford. So it doesn’t make sense to take two slot receivers and three KR/PR (including Owusu). But if you turn McCluster into Pouncey that would be a great draft.

by Austin15 on Mar 14, 2010 6:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Did Felix Jones vanish off the face of the Earth?

Did you miss his dynamite effort against the Eagles in the playoffs? He’s the man.

Anyhow, McCluster isn’t going to be another Chris Johnson.

Now on the other hand if Barber of Choice got traded Miss. St.‘s Anthony Dixon wouldn’t be a bad 4th-round pick. He’s a real banger and even built more powerfully than Barber.

by MadMick on Mar 14, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

McCluster is nowhere near as fast as Chris Johnson

and the strength(running the ball) is even farther apart. mcCluster in the 4th if you miss Ford earlier.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 14, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any scenario that has us draft McCluster I veto.

McCluster is not the player people want to pretend he is. Good defensive team have no problem shutting him down. Just look at the last to Alabama games. He combined for 60 total with 1 INT in those games. He is nothing like Desean Jackson other than in size.

by Flounder69 on Mar 14, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has nothing to do with McCluster but...

possibly Alabama could shut him down because they had a really good defense and he was the only thing you had to worry about on that offense.

Tennessee had a pretty good defense, especially against the run and McCluster ran all over them.

Taking one game and saying “he got shut down” doesn’t gauge one’s ability.

Adrian Peterson had like 50 yards against Nebraska in his 2006 season. Does that mean that he is horrible?

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 15, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh, not a fan of any of these drafts.

The only players I like in any of these are Kyle Wilson and Pouncey. And Pouncey I don’t like at 27. I’d love to pick him up if they trade down, but I don’t think he’s good value at our current position.

I think I’ve already made my stance clear on the player I view as the second best corner in this draft.

by Arson55 on Mar 14, 2010 6:03 AM CST reply actions  

I still think there's a possibility that Jerry could

trade up with a package of picks/players to try and get Earl Thomas or even Berry (though doubtful). I just have a feeling Jones’ is planning something very unusual in this draft which he normally doesn’t do and I haven’t seen anyone on any draft site address these possibilities. I have to believe he’s going to make a ballhawking safety the priority this draft. I believe he could make a move like this and still get good value later in this deep draft and would have no prob retaining our RFA’s. Anyone agree?

by JAHII on Mar 14, 2010 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

100%

1)Why do we need all these picks when so many guys are coming back from last year’s draft?

2)Jerry has shown a tendency to trade draft picks lately-that’s why all these “mocks” deserve mocking.

3)Usually he trades down, but let’s hope this is one year he trades up.

4)If not, I predict he’ll trade out for some picks next year. You get more value from teams that way, since they want to pick someone up now.

5)There’s only so many spots on the team, most are set, and a whole draft from last year is getting a second chance. I’ll puke if he trades down to get more picks this year.

6) He needs to be like the TV Jeffersons-“Movin’ On UP….”

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Mar 14, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably

But this all conjecture anyways-in that case, trade out for future picks-why bring in 6-7 new guys?

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Mar 14, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do we need all these picks when so many guys are coming back from last year’s draft?

Because most were late rounders and will take time to develop. How sure are you that they will all turn out to be decent contributors?

So why not hedge your bets and draft some more kids that have higher grade talent. Moving up and losing draft picks to get another player that is still unrealized potential seems irresponsible.

And you contradict yourself in points 3 and 4 — why trade up to target a player in a deep draft when you say yourself that your trade partner gets more value out of the deal than you?

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by accidental innuendo on Mar 14, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

53 guys on an NFL roster

and still a possible FA signing to come.

How many new guys can make the team?

OL and DB are areas for improvement, but most other spots are deep, even into the backups-this is one year I’d go for quality over quantity.

You misunderstood by point about value-my point was about getting more value trading out to next year, not when someone trades up-I didn’t necessarily say we should give up a future pick to move up. Although giving up a 3rd or higher would be OK with me.

It seems better to me, with this roster, to stockpile picks for the future (and gain value), than bring in a bunch of warm bodies again. Who’ll also need “time to develop” (“hedging your bet”)
That is, if trading up to get a quality player is not possible.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Mar 14, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good points

But I would say that last years’ glut of picks were used to churn the bottom third of the roster and revitalize the special teams because of the lack of top round picks. This year, the Cowboys need to get back to the business of team building, which includes drafting kids at all talent levels. And that’s where we disagree — I think we’ll find value at 27 without having to move around.

Stockpiling picks doesn’t make sense to me. This team needs a perennial swirl of new talent instead of in fits and starts. The value you have in front of you might be better than what you have next year, and players you pick in higher rounds will likely develop faster than those in latter rounds.

And if you consider last years picks to be ‘warm bodies,’ then these are certainly spots that can accommodate younger, better players.

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by accidental innuendo on Mar 14, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily buy that popular read on last year

Phillips was good at TE-better than Bennett

I think they have plans for Brewster

Butler looked good as an OLB backup, and I think there’s hope for Jason Williams

McGee will stick, although I think he’s a wasted spot

After that, it becomes questionable-MHamlin, Hodge, etc.
But I think the above guys are real players, and will stick.
If so , what’s left?

Anyways, we’ll see-all conjecture at this point.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Mar 15, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

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