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Mocking the Cowboys Draft: Five Weeks To Go


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With barely five weeks to go to the draft, there is something in the air tonight. Can you smell it? It's the smell of Mel Kiper's hairspray wafting through cyberspace.

It's mock draft time, and there are more mocks out there than any sane person can keep track of. It's the time of year when even Lions fans have hope for their franchise, albeit briefly. It's also the only time Rams fans can actually "visualize" their team getting any better, and it's the time when Raiders fans begin preparing for the worst.

Mock drafts are just as wonderful as they are horrible.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in another mock draft with you.

As always, we recommend starting with Raf's Mock 5.0. There are not enough updates to the 3+ round mock drafts this week, so we'll skip that part. Instead, we'll look at which other teams the draftniks are projecting to be interested in the same players Dallas is interested in. Enjoy.

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Who'll be available at 27th?

Below is a table from 20 different mock sites showing the draft spots they project for some of the players that have been linked with the Cowboys in recent weeks. As we've spent some time the last few days daydreaming about Dez Bryant and Anthony Davis, I've included them in the summary overview. The totals at the right show:

A) Avg: The average draft position for each player according to the 20 mocks. Where no position was given, I used the 35th spot to calculate the average. Obvious outliers (like Pouncey in 64th) I removed from the average.

B) In Reach: Number of mocks that see a player "within reach" of the Cowboys, i.e. available by pick 27 or later (Hat tip to blogger calmyron for the formatting)

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Who are our competitors for our target players?

Equally as important as knowing which player you want to draft is knowing how the other teams will draft.

On the assumption that the 14 players in the table above could be considered the Cowboys 'target players', I've reverse engineered the 20 mock drafts to see which other teams are going after the same bunch of 14 players. The way to read the table below - using the 49ers as an example - is as follows: 14 of the 20 mocks above predict that the 49ers, with the 17th pick, will pick one of Dallas' 14 'target players'. Out of these 14 picks, the position the 49ers are projected to draft most often is in the secondary: five of their 14 picks are either a corner or a safety. Three of these five secondary picks are projected to be Earl Thomas.

'Defense' is an amalgamation of DE, LB and DT, O-line is C,G,T.

If you're looking for for help on the O-line, you should worry about the Steelers and Packers, and to a lesser extent about the Cardinals. The Colts will take whatever is left.

If you want Earl Thomas, Steven Tyler has two words for you: "Dream On". It would be a big surprise if he even makes to the 49ers, and if they don't take him, the Texans look like a sure bet with the 20th spot.

Although Jared Odrick's average position is 29.3, five mockers agree that he could go to the Patriots as early as the 22nd spot. If the Patriots thought he was rated too high for a 22nd pick, and that Odrick would still be around for the 27th, might this be where Jerry could look to leap-frog up to at least get ahead of the Packers if Iupati makes it past the Steelers?

If the scenarios were to unfold as outlined below, what would you do? Trade up or trade down, and who with?

Team Pick Overlap with Dallas
'target players'
Majority PositionPlayers
SF
17 14 Secondary (5/14) Earl Thomas (3)
PIT 18 14 O-Line (8/14) Mike Iupati (4)
ATL 19 8 OLB (6/8) Brandon Graham (6)
HOU 20 13 Secondary (9/13) Earl Thomas (5)
CIN 21 10 Secondary (5/10) Taylor Mays (3)
NE 22 11 Defense (9/11)
Jared Odrick (5)
GB 23 15 O-Line (10/15)
Mike Iupati (4)
PHI 24 6 Safety (2/6) Taylor Mays (2)
BAL 25 10 CB (5/10) Kyle Wilson (5)
ARI 26 7 O-Line (4/7) Charles Brown (2)
DAL 27 15 O-Line (9/15) Iupati/Pouncey (both3)
SD 28 0 - - - -
NYJ 29 11 WR (7/11) Golden Tate (6)
MIN 30 8 Defense (4/8) Brian Price (2)
IND 31 16 O-Line (10/16) Maurkice Pouncey (5)
NO 32 5 Defense (4/5) Brian Price (3)

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by TCB Orange Dino on Mar 20, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Mar 20, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don’t want Taylor Mays.

by Omar Little on Mar 20, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

same

he has some impressive qualities, but so did RW.. meh

Let the chips fall where they may

by sublimezg on Mar 20, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get why some people are so down on Mays

Well, actually, I kind of understand. The comparisons to Roy can scare people…but what if he resembles Roy in his first few years when we had Woody? The guy could be exactly what Roy was SUPPOSED to be. I’d be perfectly fine with that.

I’d rather have a guy like Iupati or Pouncey, maybe even a Bruce Campbell(is he really projected to go so high all of a sudden?), but if we go safety and Earl Thomas is off the board(he will be), I wouldn’t mind us taking Mays at all. Guy’s a freak.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Mar 20, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have felt the same way about Mays.

If he could be Roy before he kind of fell out of shape, I would gladly draft him at #27. Like I said in another post, if you last year had told me we would draft Mays this year, I would have thought Jerry traded way up or that Tony got hurt for the vast majority of this year.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 20, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would be down on a Mays pick but would not hate it

I think it be best for the cowboys if they took the same perspective on Mays as they did Hodge. It would spell the end of Hodge but that aint horrible and I think it be worth getting Mays more playing time.

Mays would have to play safety as well. Would this mean Sensa would most likely move on after this year or would he move to FS and Hamlin be shown the boot?

by Becho on Mar 20, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll go the Terry-route on this one

whoever the Cowboys select, I have faith he will be a baller

by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 21, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am not so sure that the Cowboys couldn't keep Hodge and Mays

if they were convinced that Mays could play SS and Hodge could play nickel LB.

But as for Mays, I think that any team that drafts him will at least start by certainly working him as a safety (and maybe in some cases bring him up like a linebacker in certain nickel packages). This would include the Cowboys, and I do think it would mean that one of our safeties would certainly be on the chopping block soon.

As for Mays the player, I think in the end his fate will probably be determined by the system that he is put in. Everyone likes to talk about how he struggles with turning compared to a guy like Earl Thomas, but when you look at someone like Troy Polamalu, you can’t tell me that he would test well at that either. If used correctly and closer to the line (which would be better for his acceleration and burst attributes) I don’t see any reason he couldn’t go back to the player he was in 2008. If not used correctly though and he is made more into a deep centerfielder, I expect he will struggle as well on the pro level.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 21, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

He’s not very good at football, he’s a great athlete but his on field production is terrible.

by Omar Little on Mar 21, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

RW

clone.. Deion and the guys at Nfl Network call him a in the box safety… They admit he is a freak, strong, hit like bricks, special team stand out… But they show the tape & it didnt look good plus there was times when he look lost.. I would not waste a first round pick on the guy

by lostar2009 on Mar 21, 2010 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Perfect line about Mays. He is not the sum of his parts.

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Mays does not play with passion and does not use his physical gifts. There is no reason a S as big and fast as he is should have 0 FF in college.

by Flounder69 on Mar 21, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The question I have though is did he play like Jane in 2008

because it seemed like every draft expert thought going towards the 2008 draft that he played like Tarzan. I would like to know what changed (scheme, supporting cast, role in defense, etc.) and then maybe determine if he could recapture that 2008 play.

What I have personally read is that last year he was basically asked to be USC’s deep free safety responsible for being the last line of defense whereas in 2008 he was allowed to play in the box and make more plays (the big hits in the Rose Bowl are what I remember). I would hope that if the Cowboys drafted him they would plan on using him like the 2008 version of Mays and allow him to be more like the Roy Willy of 2002 and 2003.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 21, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmmmmm

If Dallas do decide to stay at 27 they may target G/C in the 2nd or third round….

I know they do have Doug Free but a lot of people say he is not proven but u guys forget he played great at RT and was move to LT in the playoffs where he was match up against Jared Allen.

So i think just draft the best man on the board JJ will wheel and deal and we will end up drafting at least 5 players this year with picks for next year.

O yea Arizona is scouting Safeties hard this year so don’t be surprise if the pull the trigger on one in the first round.

by lostar2009 on Mar 20, 2010 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

but they just got Kerry Rhodes

which would make me feel that they aren’t opposed to going a different route

by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 21, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rashard Johson drop and drop hard

he’s a box safety too.. there was questions about his game 2

by lostar2009 on Mar 21, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rashaud is far from an in the box S.

He has more INTs in his SR season than Mays has in 4 years. Same for passes defended and FFs. Johnson is a very intelligent playmaker, that was lacking a little in the measurables.

by Flounder69 on Mar 21, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

an*

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 22, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

nope

I only scout these players when they they are about to hit pro……..
I kno if he was so great y did JJ pass on they guy twice during the draft?

We drafted M. Hamlin instead.. Dont get wrong u guys scream for RW to be remove from this team but he have coverage issues. At the same token while he was being scrutinize by everyone he was producing 4-5 INT’s a season. Now we probably got a better cover SS but where are the plays?

As for Founder College and Pro r two different levels last year we drafted Mickens, D.Smith, Butler, & B. Williams all of these guys was dub play makers from the schools they came from.

Out of the list how many crack the 53 man roster and how many playd a single down in the regular season ? just 1…

To be honest im not even sure Rashard Johnson playd last year.

by lostar2009 on Mar 23, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was asking Flounder that...

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 23, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have looked at so many drafts

and none has a top tackle falling to us except Campbell.

IMHO the child molester from Abilene Christian would be better than him.

by TCB Orange Dino on Mar 20, 2010 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Now now

He’s not a child molester…he totally banged his sister when they were both under aged.

I actually wouldn’t mind drafting the dude in a later round. Happened 7 years ago. That’s a long time, and everybody deserves a chance to redeem themselves.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Mar 20, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the link..Biological sister, so blood

http://www.sportsfanlive.com/sflreports/entry/sportsfanlive_com_exclusive_lineman_s

If you read the full story, the kid had a rough childhood and was kinda messed up in the head..Hard to necessarily excuse what he did, but no reason he cant get a second chance drafted later on…Sure seems like he is a decent prospect.

by JLMax09 on Mar 21, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a good read.

He does sound like an intriguing prospect, but I share the same concern that the scouts in the article do. His past could make an uncomfortable locker room for him. Plus, when he sees the field, every announcer will discuss what he did.

BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.

by Aaron Novinger on Mar 21, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

disagree there Aaron

I don’t see Jim Nantz saying “interesting sidebar Phil – Washington had consensual intercourse with his sister in his teen years. You’re from Kentucky – any light you can shed on normalized incest?”

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 21, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

got an erie feeling just reading it eww....

but it sad that a case like this can live with someone the rest of there lives. It would be a different feel if it was rape but this was consensual … just feel bad for the guy .

Him being register as a sex offender greatly changes what he can do with the team.

by lostar2009 on Mar 21, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

With a Dallas, Houston, or New Orleans

the registered sex offender thing would have little impact, as I understand it. He already has permission to live and work in Texas.

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on Mar 21, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not clear on the law butttt

being registered as a sex offender would restrict where he can stay or be around for example in school zones or day cares bc he’s a sex offender. Im not sure but i thought that is y they register these guys.

by lostar2009 on Mar 22, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Washington's biggest problem, after getting accepted into a school

was getting permission to move out of Louisiana, and permission to move into Texas.

His unique situation required authorities in both New Orleans and Texas to accept his transfer of residence, something law enforcement officials in his home state of Louisiana initially refused to do. It meant Sartain and his staff had to jump through hoops to get Tony into their program.

This quote is from a lengthy, and detailed, article written by Jenna Laine,
SportsFanLive.com reporter.

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on Mar 23, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not trying to defend incest here,

but does anyone else feel it’s complete and total overkill for the state to publicly register this guy as a sex offender for the rest of his life just because he had consensual sex with his sister? Was his sister publicly registered by the state as a sex offender also? If not, why not?

There’s obviously much more to the story we don’t know and maybe that would make things clearer but it seems quite harsh for a consensual (though distasteful) act. Also, how did the state find out in the first place?

by Luke. on Mar 22, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of thought the same thing.

A relative or someone had to say something. Maybe the sister, I dunno.

John McClain: Welcome to the party, pal!

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 22, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here is to hoping Pouncey or Iupati fall

Like I’ve said before.. Pouncey/Iupati with Ducasse in the second would make me a very happy man.

by Static on Mar 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah that combo would be awesome

with so many tackels going in the first every year you would think we might have a chance at Ducasse at 59

by Becho on Mar 20, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

The tackle I have always wanted to get in the second or third round

is Rodger Saffold from Indiana. According to reports, he has great feet to go along with good size (313 lbs at his pro day) and is a guy that gets off the ball well. His main problem is that he isn’t the strongest guy and can get bull-rushed at times. As such, I see him similar to how Free was when he came in since he too needed a little time to get stronger. Unfortunately, I have recently seen mocks that have had him going pretty high in the second round due to his great play at the East-West Shrine Bowl (one report called him the best player on the field).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 21, 2010 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would be happy with

Safford, Ducasse, or Verheld in the 2nd. But Tony Washington should be better than any of them—and later in the draft.

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on Mar 21, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drafttek has Ducasse at 56

so he could still be there. The thing to do would be to wait until about half way through the second round, see how things are playing out, then maybe move a few places if Jerry thinks it’s necessary. That’s assuming the Cowboys have him at a comparable position on their board, of course.

Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.

by Reno Cowboy on Mar 21, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a mock I like a lot

Draft Insider Mock 3/19

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 20, 2010 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Love it...

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 21, 2010 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

There’s no reason to trade up. I like luptai too but giving up 2 picks for a guard? No way. Let the players fall to us, and if the worst case scenario happens and they don’t,
 let’s get ourselves some extra seconds or thirds.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Mar 21, 2010 12:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes Jerry is a wheeler dealer.

Would it surprise anyone if he traded out of the first round. No. Having said that I believe he will well remember last year when he got scooped for the players he wanted and possibly will try not to let that happen again. At this point the only area he has stated as a real problem is the Oline. On almost every board Iupati is the top rated G and Pouncey is the top C. Unless he is ready to take the 7th or 8th rated tackle it would make sense that this is the area he will target. Iupati may not fall to 27 and some consider Pounce a reach at 27. If Pouncey is the guy he wants he will take him if available. Pouncey will give him inside presence and his future C. I think he believes Free is his future LT , so getting a RT later in the draft may not be as difficult. If the Oline guys he wants are not there, then I can see him trading down to get the second tier player on their board.
   BTW is there anybody else that sees this Dez Bryant visit as just a smoke screen ? Even if he drops some, do you think the Cowboys would trade up in the first for a wide receiver ?

by oldboysfan on Mar 21, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

How much does Jerry like him?

I could see Jerry trying to swap with the Pats. Would a 09 3rd be enough? However I think it’s more likely that Jerry gives Roy another year. Roy steps up and Jerry looks brilliant, but if Jerry drafts Dez and he has an average rookie year, then Jerry made two mistakes. This draft is too deep to just burn a pick. That 3rd could be a Rodger Saffold.

by birdness on Mar 21, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what to make of the table

The average for Bruce Campbell changes dramatically if the Raiders don’t draft him. Likewise Tate’s second round numbers don’t mean anything if just one GM want’s this years DeSean Jackson.

I do like the within reach number. Jerry probably have a good shot at Bryant, Thomas, Graham, while he should get a look of at least one from Pouncey, Odrick, Price and Brown. I hope if Odrick on the board, the Pats come knocking with two mid 2nds.

by birdness on Mar 21, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Tate is not the same player as Desean Jackson.

He does not have the lateral quickness that makes Desean Jackson so special.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 21, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

A player

like Iupati would be the best for the Cowboys, as he can play anywhere along the line except Center, a safety like Burnett in the second and someone like Saffold in the 3rd or J.D. Walton. that would be sweet, we would have our Oline for the next 10 yrs. With Free at LT, Iupati at LG, Walton at C and Brewster at RT we only would need a RG.

by DCowboy on Mar 21, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

That would work.

If you wanted to get your ILB at 59 you could take Major Wright FS in the third and pick up Keven Matthew later in the draft. Not much for pedigree, but if Kevin has near the carreer his dad did we would be set at Centre for a long time.

by oldboysfan on Mar 21, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Like Bobby and Rob.

Washington out of TCU an ILB is going to be a hoss IMO. He might be there at #59, he’s 6"3" runs a 4.6 40 and is 235lbs.

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 21, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

milehigh mock

Dez Bryant went 25 and I was gonna hop on him if he would have made it to our pick…kind of glad he did n`t. Wanted to address the O-Line in rd 1 but was hoping for someone who could play both G and T and did n`t see a fit so went this route instead.

Dallas Cowboys with pick 27 select
Jared Odrick DT Penn State

Has the size to play End in the 3-4 but also the versatility to play NT to give Rat a breather and also in 4-3 sets as a DT. We were n`t allowed player trades but after this pick pretty sure we would be shopping Spears or Hatcher.

Dallas Cowboys with pick 59 select
Nate Allen FS South Florida

Really lucked out on this pick as other Safeties ranked lower went off the board ahead him. Would have been happy with Morgan Burnett as well though he went ahead of Allen, both Ducasse and Saffold were also gone or else I would have had a decision to make.

Dallas Cowboys with pick 90 select
John Jerry OT Mississippi

Again some others ranked lower went ahead of Jerry so again we lucked out, has played RG before but we might need depth at LG so hopefully either he or Biggs can switch to LG, also he could develop into a RT.

The draft was for 3 rds only looks like we need Free to be the man at LT though we better try to squeeze 1 more yr out of Flo just in case.

http://www.milehighreport.com/2010/3/21/1383773/live-interactive-mock-draft-v2-0#storyjump

by ziggy19 on Mar 21, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

That;s a pretty good first three rounds

but I probably would have tried to trade a later round pick to move up a few slots for Dez.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 21, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Odrick is the pick in the 1st

I think Spears gets dealt that night.

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 21, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job Ziggy

That’s a solid three picks. That gives the Cowboys the ability to look for CB, WR and C later. Well done.

by oldboysfan on Mar 21, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad no trades were allowed.

I’m not all that thrilled with a DT as the top pick, but as a BPA pick it could have gone a lot worse.

Imagine a scenario where Jerry trades the 27th pick (680 points) and the 3rd rounder (140 points) for New England’s two second rounders, 44th and 53rd (460+370 points). The Patriots would likely love to get their hands on Odrick, and at 820 to 830 points, the value is about even.

The way the draft played out, you could have had

44th: Roger Saffold, OT
53rd: Vladimir Ducasse, OL
59th. Nate Allen, S

by One.Cool.Customer on Mar 21, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of these 14 players, I hope we're not considering:

Brandon Graham – Good player, and worthy of the 27th selection. But we have two studs at OLB in Ware and Spencer. Sure, I would love to have a 3rd guy with similar skills, but I think we have bigger needs than another OLB. Graham would be a back-up and the only scenario in which he plays a lot is that one of the other guys gets hurt.
Taylor Mays – Ugh, I dont know what else I can say that hasnt already been said about this guy. Amazing athelete. Average football player. That’s it in a nutshell. He doesnt cover well and he will be asked to be a safety in a league that now requires all safeties to cover. I dont think I would even take him with the 59th overall pick in the 2nd round.
Golden Tate – He will be a nice return guy and slot receiver some day, but Dallas has a few good slot receivers in Crayton and Ogletree. If Dez Bryant fell, for instance, I would take him at #27. The reason for that is he projects to a #1 receiver in the NFL and has great PR skills. He would be a steal at #27. Tate, on the other hand, is probably an early 2nd round pick. He’s a bit of a reach in the first (especially after he ran slower than expected – DeMaryius Thomas is probably the 2nd best WR now.) There’s not a lot of value for Tate at #27. I would love his return abilities, but he will hinder the progress of Ogletree and makes Crayton obsolete. The net gain is not too high.
Charles Brown - Doesnt seem to be a first round talent. That’s not to say he wont get drafted in the first round, but I dont think he’s worth it. If the top 5 OTs are gone (likely) we need to look elsewhere. Dont reach for a position on the first.

by TCBinNYC on Mar 22, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Completely off the mark

in your assessment of Tate.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Mar 22, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its an argument Ive made numerous times before.

Repetition would be pointless.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Mar 22, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just opinion based anyways.

You don’t know anything more about Tate than anyone else here.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 23, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

True enough

But that statement could be applied to most things written on this blog.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Mar 23, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tate is clearly a 2nd round receiver

I’m willing to make whatever bet you want that he doesnt go in the first round. I’m not sure anyone other than Dez will go in the first, but if a 2nd receiver goes, it will be DeMaryius Thomas from Ga Tech. Tate is not perceived as a game changer in the pros as you would like to believe.

He might turn into a Hall of Famer, but that’s not my point. He’s not perceived as being anything more than a good slot receiver and a dynamic return man at this point.

You need to find another players jock to ride. This guy is not nearly as great as you think.

by TCBinNYC on Mar 23, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Benn has a chance to go in the 1st

Thomas is a little too raw to spend a 1st on, IMO.

I agree on Tate, I like his game, but he’s not the type of WR that normally goes in the 1st rd.

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 23, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not true

There are plenty of professional analysts out there that think Tate is worthy of a first round pick. Pat Kirwin for example has him being drafted before Bryant.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Mar 23, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Golden Tate is moving into Darren McFadden Territory

in the run up to the draft, some posters here began to ascribe almost mystical powers to D-Mac.

Golden Tate is starting to get that kind of love

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Mar 22, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to think he wasn't even the best receiver on his team...

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 23, 2010 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I don’t dislike the guy, but I agree.

I believe he can make water into wine.

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 23, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed with all but the grade you give Brown

He’s a poor fit for our team, but he’s an elite talent for teams that employ zone blocking schemes. Footwork/speed, hand placement, use of leverage and quickness are among the best in this class. This first-team All-American was voted the best OL in the PAC-10 by defensive linemen and coaches.

by dacolan on Mar 23, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

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