The Cowboys' Top Pick: Offense or Defense?
Between David LaFleur (1997) and Felix Jones (2008) every first-round pick selected by the Cowboys has been a defensive player. Ekuban, Ellis, Roy Williams, T-New, Spears, Ware, Carpenter, Spencer, and then they followed the Felix Jones pick with Mike Jenkins.
Such a run has got to make you wonder if the Cowboys will again go defense in this draft's first round.
What if?
First, thanks to all for your votes in yesterday's poll: The Dallas Cowboys are on the Mock Clock. What if the draft dominoes did end up falling similar to that mock? The Cowboys could conceivably have their choice between a top OT in Anthony Davis and the draft's best center in Maurkice Pouncey. Everybody knows the team needs to get younger on the offensive line. It would just make too much sense to draft either of those guys.
Left Tackle
But what if the Cowboys plan on bringing Flozell Adams back for another season and project Doug Free as the sole backup/heir apparent at LT? Anthony Davis would essentially be red-shirted unless he could compete on the right side. Taking a year to learn the nuances of the pro game may not be a bad thing for him, especially if you are one to worry about his question marks.
He arrived at Rutgers at 368 pounds as a freshman, and had to lose nearly 40 pounds to earn a starting job then.
As a sophomore in 2008, he was suspended from the Morgan State game for violating team policy, and this summer he was demoted to second team for six days in preseason camp for being overweight.
"It’s minor stuff," he said. "I have no weight issue. I’ll be ready to explain all the questions they have about me missing the Morgan State game last year."
Guard/Right Tackle
If the Cowboys choose to stick with what they've got at LT for one more year, this could then push their top O-line need to guard, and then RT. Robert Brewster could backup either position, but is he starting material - enough to push Kyle Kosier, or enough to supplant Doug Free at RT if Marc Colombo went down again?
In this mock, Mike Iupati was long gone (#11 to the Denver blog) before Dallas' pick. For now, let's scratch his name off the list and suppose the Cowboys are looking at guys like Vladimir Ducasse and John Jerry as second round targets. Both of those guys could easily compete with Brewster and inspire the team to move on from Pat McQuistan.
They could even further stabilize the guard and RT depth later in the draft by nabbing a guy like TCU's Marshall Newhouse, who even has experience at LT. Also, the team will be bringing in Newhouse's teammate, RT Nic Richmond, for a "Dallas Day" visit. Richmond is expected to be a late round consideration, which suggests that the Cowboys are willing to go with a developmental prospect on the O-line.
The 6’8", 322-pounder from Garland, Tex. was a three-year starter for the Horned Frogs and is currently the NFP’s 26th ranked offensive tackle prospect. Richmond was an integral part of last year’s 12-1 TCU team that earned a trip to the Fiesta Bowl.
Center/Guard
Finally, I must address Florida C Maurkice Pouncey. In the poll, he's not too far behind Anthony Davis in BTB votes. It's interesting to see that a good number of fans would pass up on a quality LT to draft what essentially would be a backup center on the Cowboys. Now, Pouncey could compete at guard. And he is considered to be the best center prospect, which suggests solid value at #27.
I know many of you are ready to run Cory Procter out of town, but he signed his tender and will at least be in training camp. Andre Gurode is a perennial Pro Bowler and arguably the best center in the conference. For Pouncey to play, Gurode would have to miss time unless they rotated him in for shotgun snaps (I kid!). At guard - presumably the left side - he would compete with Kosier and Brewster.
Argument Against Drafting an O-lineman in the First
The Cowboys feel as if Free can provide quality depth at either tackle position. If they do not plan on cutting Flo in June, then maybe they address the LT position next year after seeing how well Free progresses.
If the Cowboys see good value in Gs and RTs beginning in the 2nd round, then what do they do with that #27? Although taking O-linemen in both the 1st and 2nd would give them talented depth up front, it's hard to see them doing that. Of all the positions in football, the offensive line's are some of the least likely to be rotated; there's a solid chance that the rookies won't see much playing time. That's not what the Cowboys' War Room would want from their two top picks, is it?
Argument For Drafting a Defensive Playmaker in the First
In Sunday's poll, I figured the offensive linemen would garner most of the votes, especially with Davis falling and Pouncey right there. But I submitted my pick before posting that poll and went a different direction. With the 27th pick in the 2010 Draft I had the Cowboys selecting SFU's DE Jason Pierre-Paul, .
Before flinging your tomatoes, hear me out. Of the players listed in the poll (I used CBS' Top 50 List), I narrowed the available players down to four: Davis, Pouncey, Pierre-Paul, and Jared Odrick.
Because of the reasons listed above along with the Cowboys' tendency to go defensive in first rounds, I trimmed it down to Pierre-Paul and Odrick. Now, I really like Odrick and would be ecstatic if the Cowboys took him, but there is a possibility that Marcus Spears, Stephen Bowen, and Jason Hatcher will all sign their tenders to remain with the team. As of now, Odrick would be entering a team stacked with DEs, especially if Marcus Dixon develops and Igor Olshansky continues to man the running downs.
That left me with Pierre-Paul.
What if?
What if the Cowboys drafted another college DE to move to OLB? It could certainly be frustrating to many fans. They already have starters set in DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer. And they snagged a couple of these DE/OLB tweeners with their 4th-round picks last year in Victor Butler and Brandon Williams. We saw some flashes of playmaking ability out of Butler early on, but he wasn't much of a factor late in the season. Williams showed promise before tearing his ACL in the preseason game against the Titans.
Steve Octavien seems like a decent special teams player, but a bit smallish at 6'0"/245 to hold up as a solid backup OLB candidate. Curtis Johnson, listed at 6'3"/237, never saw any action to warrant nicknaming him CuJo. Butler (6'2"/246) and Williams (6'3"/248) are solid in size, but Spencer (6'3"/256) and Ware (6'4"/262) offer even more bulk to the front seven.
At the Combine, Pierre-Paul measured 6'5"/270.
If All You Have is Potential, Then That's All You Have
Having just spent one season with South Florida and two in junior college, Pierre-Paul is a raw talent. Any team drafting him would be drafting him for potential. But he does have a ton of potential. He is a very athletic pass-rusher with a good burst off the line to complement his large frame.
Last season with the Bulls, Pierre-Paul registered 45 tackles with 16.5 for losses along with 6.5 sacks. That's quite a productive year for a guy who only started seven games.
Again, if the Cowboys are looking to beef up their offensive line in rounds two through four, then why not take a chance at 27? In Wade Phillips' defense, pass rushers are of the utmost importance. He's a defensive-minded coach, and the Cowboys are all about drafting defense in the first round. It sounds like a great fit. Plus, Pierre-Paul can provide the team another dynamic player on passing downs. Check out his goods and bads...
The way this mock fell, there's another playmaking position the team could consider - safety - but it was rather thin with Earl Thomas going at 12 to the Dolphins and Taylor Mays going at 17 to the 49ers. Pierre-Paul's teammate, Nate Allen, may be too high of a reach at 27.
The team could go with Terrence Cody if they felt that a backup nose tackle was a pressing issue. Also on defense, CBs Patrick Robinson, Devin McCourty, Kareem Jackson, and Chris Cook could also be had; though, the Cowboys have enough young players at that position to go elsewhere with their first pick.
Besides, on Draft Day, the chips should fall for the Cowboys to be able to grab value at 27 instead of having to reach.
And Pierre-Paul Would Fit in With the Cowboys...How?
Initially, as a pass-rushing DE in sub-packages. Being so inexperienced, I would assume that Coach Phillips would bring him along slowly as an OLB. Butler and Williams will both be a step ahead of Pierre-Paul in the OLB learning curve, but his talent should get him some time on the nickel and dime.
While Anthony Spencer stayed healthy, we saw how banged-up DeMarcus Ware was over the course of the season. Ware rarely leaves the field. Much of that is because he leads the league in awesomeness, but part of that has to do with the available backups. As of now, Butler will be asked to be Ware's primary backup. If so, much of his focus will be on making that transition to weakside OLB, while Williams will be doing the same behind Spencer. Having one more DE/OLB such as Pierre-Paul could further the development of Butler and Williams.
Remember, both Octavien and Curtis Johnson were on the 53-man roster for much of the year. That shows that Coach Phillips will have at least five OLBs make the team. One or both of those two can be bumped. With Williams returning from injury, another spot could be up for grabs. Someone with unique pass-rushing skills would fit nicely.
The Cowboys' Top Pick: Defense
Looking back at all the defensive names the Cowboys have drafted in the first round since '98, they have many more hits than misses. Ekuban did not have a stellar career in Dallas, but enjoyed a long tenure in the NFL. Carpenter's future remains to be seen, though Phillips may have found a niche for him as a nickel 'backer. All the other names, other than Spears - a solid starter - have each seen at least one Pro Bowl. Not bad for the Cowboys' brass.
Barring any trades, if a top WR or OT falls to the Cowboys, they very well could go offense next month. That's a story for another post.
For now, I'm sticking with defense at 27. Unless they earn a starting job, defensive rookies are more likely to see the field than offensive ones. Teams don't rotate offensive linemen like they do with defensive ones. There are far more sub-packages for LBs and DBs to get in on than there would be for WRs learning Jason Garrett's playbook. Not to mention, Jerry Jones sounds content with his young group of receivers.
Unlike 2008 when many of us saw Felix Jones and/or Mike Jenkins projected to the Cowboys, this draft has possibilities galore. Just checking out OCC's Mocking the Cowboys Draft post, pundits have them selecting positions all along the O-line to WR, DB, and LB.
I guess it's good that the Cowboys don't have glaring holes entering the draft. The team could remain much the same. Still, I want a playmaker on defense. If JPP's name is called late Thursday night on April 22, I won't be disappointed.
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Fix the oline; all else pales in comparison . . . build for now and tomorrow at oline. Go find a veteran LT to boot using next year’s draft.
And although this could be true
Of all the positions in football, the offensive line’s are some of the least likely to be rotated; there’s a solid chance that the rookies won’t see much playing time.
It’s not the bst justification for positions that are (1) crucial to any and all offensive success and (2) takes time on the roster to get ready for a pro start (as a rule). If we followed that logic, we’d never draft linemen and be left with only one decent back-up for the linchpins of offensive success! Wait. Crap. We DO only have one decent back-up.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I believe JPP will be long gone by then
and how he’d fit with the roster is hard to see but clearly he has the attributes to be a good OLB. I can picture a 3 man line with Spencer Ware and JPP as rushing LBs
also if JPP is drafted Wade must believe he will be outstanding and Wades pretty good at identifying rush LBs
by AustonianAggie on Mar 29, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
yes he is good
Plus JPP can move inside on passing downs and pin his ears back for the pass rush.
Having DWare, Spence, Rat, and JPP as your rushers in the nickel would be pretty stout.
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+1
Also, lastly, he’s only about 15lbs short of being a light weight pass rusher 3-4 DE
by AustonianAggie on Mar 29, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaron, while I agree with your premise, I disagree with your direction
Aside from the point that the Cowboys have 2 starters in tow and two guys from last year’s draft that appear to have enough to warrant further time, 3-4 OLB is a position that teams with strong scouting departments uncover a mid-late round gem every few years. I don’t see spending a 1st rounder on a backup there, regardless of the allure of his physical gifts.
I also think that you dismiss too quickly the possibility that Pouncey can play OG.
I'm in complete agreement
I have a hard time spending a 1st on a guy who will only be a part time player. Ware and Spencer are pro bowl caliber or greater. They are both relatively young. It makes no sense to spend a 1st on a guy who will a nickel player (40% of snaps) and occasionally spell a starter. Maybe 50% of snaps. For the next several years baring injury to Ware/Spencer.
Now if you told me he can bulk up and be a DE, then we might have something. Bruce Smith wasnt the biggest 3-4 DE in the world, but he was obviously extremely effective. We don’t have any pro bowlers at DE. Solid guys, yes. So if this guy is all that you’re forecasting and he can bulk up to DE, then I’ll go with it.
I just don’t see the value in taking another OLB. There’s no starter spot available for the forseeable future.
In contrast, on our OL, there will be start spots available in the foreseeable future. Perhaps not 2010, but 2011 to 2013 should see much of our starters turn over.
Dallas needs OL, safety or ILB help much more and much sooner.
But once again, if a player is rated much higher on their board than anyone else, screw need get the BPA.
spencer has had health concerns and this guy could be a HOFer
not that he will be but how often does someone with that potential get to 27. imagine if he turns out to be a stud or a semi stud. i wonder how many number 1s you can get for a good pass rusher in his prime.
JPP is like crack... Just say no
The top pick will be the best player on the Cowboys’ board. If that player is on offense, then #27 will be an offensive player. If not, then that pick will be a defensive player.
Until then, we can all continue arguing our heads off.
jpp won't be there at 27..
even though he’s a one year wonder; too gifted athletically to drop that low imo.
The one glaring weakness I see with this team is lack of depth on the OL (ball hawk FS is a strong #2). Only Free has shown he can start; Brewster is unproven and Proctor et.al. have shown to be just fodder.
Pouncey can play guard or center, some even say RT, plus he’s the top rated player at his position. If he’s available at 27, I’d grab him like grim death.
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Although I would prefer OLine,
JPP would certainly have to be a consideration if he was available at 27. He’s got ridiculous talent and potential, and he very well may be the highest rated player on our board if he somehow fell to 27.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
I'd like either an OL or DB
In the first and second rounds, I’d like either two OL, and OL in the first and DB (Safety would be preferred) or vice versa. I think the only time I would want them to deviate is if someone that they have rated really high falls. But if we have a need player and a non-need player and they are rated with a first and say within 3 marks of each other (Say one is marked 20 and the other is marked 23) then I’d like us to go for need (Which I believe to be OL or DB).
In Raf's recent mock where all our guys were gone I took JPP too
But Anthony Davis was gone in that mock. I sighted many of the reasons you gave in my JPP pick a couple of weeks ago, but I’ll give you one more. Just simply to give a breather to Spencer and Ware. We saw Ware get a few breathers when he was battling injury last season, and his awesomeness factor shot up. I wouldn’t be at all disappointed with JPP, but still, if Davis is on the board it’s a no-brainer for me.
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I like Davis too
but JPP is a close second. Strangley enough JPP seems like the safer pick. Imagine being at pick 27 and having to choose between a potentially dominateing LT or a potentionally dominating OLB. Crazy. No way this happens in the real draft. I think a lot of fans overrate these charachter issues.
LMAO
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I think JPP is an awesome pick.
I voted for Davis but I would be real happy with JPP as well. This guy has something to play for. Yeah he is young but seems like a really great kid. You know what they say about pass rushers. He could be fliped for picks later if need be.
Much of that is because he [Demarcus Ware] leads the league in awesomeness
best description of D-Ware I have come across
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My one (or two) and only mock
Funny you should mention Newhouse:
Mock draft as expected
Pick Player Position School Dimensions
1st (27th) Trade down with 4th
2nd (38th) Bruce Campbell OT Maryland 6’7" 314
2nd (59th) Chris Cook FS Virginia 6’2" 212
3rd (71st) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana 6’0" 207
3rd (90th) Trade down (see above)
4th (100th) Marshall Newhouse OG TCU 6’4" 319
4th (125th) Trade down
5th (133rd) Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 6’5" 328
6th (196th) Marcus Easley WR Connecticut 6’3" 210
7th (234th) Doug Worthington DE Ohio State 6’5" 292
URFA Jameson Konz FB Kent State 6’4" 324
Jeromy Miles FS Massachusetts 6’2" 210
J’Marcus Webb OT West Texas A&M 6’7" 335
Mike Tepper OG California 6’6" 324
Trindon Holliday KR LSU 5’5" 166
Hunter Lawrence K Texas Who cares
Mock draft with Davis falling
Pick Player Position School Dimensions
1st (27th) Anthony Davis OT Rutgers 6’5" 323
2nd (59th) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana 6’0" 207
3rd (90th) Trade down
4th (100th) Marshall Newhouse OG TCU 6’4" 319
4th (125th) Trade down
5th (133rd) Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 6’5" 328
5th (156th) Myron Lewis FS Vanderbilt 6’2" 203
6th (194th) Myron Rolle SS Florida State 6’2" 215
6th (196th) Marcus Easley WR Connecticut 6’3" 210
7th (234th) Doug Worthington DE Ohio State 6’5" 292
URFA Jameson Konz FB Kent State 6’4" 324
Jeromy Miles FS Massachusetts 6’2" 210
J’Marcus Webb OT West Texas A&M 6’7" 335
Mike Tepper OG California 6’6" 324
Trindon Holliday KR LSU 5’5" 166
Hunter Lawrence K Texas Who cares
I share your admiration for...
Owusu-Ansah and a late dice roll on Worthington. Sign me up for Webb too.
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Mocks are just like opinions, and body cavities.
Everybody has, at least, one. Or so I am told.
You may be right. The Cowboys’ board may have an OLB right up there on top; and if they do, he may, or may not, be Pierre-Paul. I certainly hope that isn’t the direction they go, but what do I know? But, regarding Pierre-Paul, who is saying that he can even play OLB, or any position in the 3-4 for that matter? There are several draft websites that have players listed by primary and alternate positions, and I have never seen him as anything other than a 4-3 DE. And please, don’t say, “Anyone who can play DE in the 4-3 can play the rush LB in the 3-4.”
If we are going to spend that top on defense, let’s at least do it on a position where the need is stronger. IMO, OLB is the strongest position on defense. Using that pick on a FS, if available, should give us a starter as a rookie. If whoever is available is too much of a reach, then please, please, Jerry, draft an offensive lineman here. He may not start immediately, but the OL is about to reach the critical stage. You absolutely, positively must have someone ready to step in a year down the road. Waiting until you have to replace one of these guys, unless you are drafting in the top 5-7 spots in the draft, is waiting two years, minimum, too long.
Of the choices available in the poll, I voted for Pouncey, but my second choice would have been Davis. Either, or neither, of these guys may be there for the Cowboys at #27, but the reason I chose Pouncey over Davis, is that Pouncey is generally regarded as far-and-away the best player at center, and can also play guard. Many people have forgotten, if they ever knew, that Andre Gurode can also play guard. In fact, guard was once thought to be his natural position. The beauty of having Pouncey would be that either he, or Gurode, could replace Kosier. Then, if one of them were injured, Kosier could move back in at guard, with the other going to center.
I often see people write, " I would love to have [insert name] but there is no way he will be there at 27."
But if you look at three or four websites that rank players through at least 60 players, with the exception of about 15-16, at least one of them will have just about anybody there when the Cowboys are on the clock.
Unlike a Cowboys' season, in life, there may not be a next year.
The Minnesota game is still an unpleasant memory.
The Cowboys needed OL last year. They have to start drafting quality OL even if they will not get on the field this year. They need to churn the backups out of the system with some new OL. Hopefully they will hit on a few.
As you mentioned there are several FS that could see the field this year. If the Cowboys do not get a OL that can play next year and a FS that can get on the field this year it will be hard to improve the last years team.
Story about JPP from ESPN.com:
South Florida defensive line coach Kevin Patrick was on a recruiting trip to see Jason Pierre-Paul last year when the prized prospect surprised him.
“Hey, coach, look at this,” Pierre-Paul yelled to Patrick after practice. Then the 6-foot-6, 260-pounder pulled off a standing backflip — in full pads and helmet.
“It was,” Patrick says now, “the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen in my life.”
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
That said, I'd prefer to go best available OL
Athletic potential is flashy and enticing, but as Raf said, we don’t tend to take project players in the first round, and our OL has been needing an infusion of young talent for a few years now. Gotta protect Tony, he’s our #1 investment.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Can't the Cowboys afford to take a project player?
If they have 2nd round targets on Olinemen, then why not take a risk in the bottom of the first? If not risk, then the best value pick.
Realistically, they’d probably take Pouncey there, but if he’s gone, I say take the best defensive playmaker available—whether it be Kyle Wilson, JPP, or Odrick. I want some turnovers!
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 31, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
They can fix the interior and RT in later rounds in the value doesn't fall to them at 27.
If they’re gonna take a risk at LT, I’d rather go with Campbell or Charlie Brown than Davis.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 31, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't argue with that because
I have almost no idea who any of these players are. So I go by the names. Like Pouncey. I like it. It makes me feel good to say it. Pouncey. And I like Vladimir Ducasse because I want names like Vlad and Igor on my favorite team.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
You mean you don't watch South Florida and UMass game? WTF Dunk!?!
I even like some of the simpler names like John Jerry or Nate Allen. They just sound like good ol’ boys!
But if they draft Newhouse, there will be a new Marshall in town!
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 31, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have no problem with JPP if he's clearly the BPA
But the best way to improve this team as it stands is A.) buy more time for Romo/open up the run game, and B.) create more turnovers.
Considering Proctor/OL depth is the weakest link on the 53-man roster and how quickly our season fell apart once Kosier was lost to injury a couple years ago, and the dearth of turnovers that have been created from the S position recently, this means OL and S.
Games are won and lost in the trenches.
Win the turnover battle and you win the game.
They become cliche because they are The Truth.
The only way I see Dallas consider passing on prospects at positions that would address our greatest needs is if a BPA falls in our lap that grades out so high it would be foolish to pass him up.
Interesting Question...
Everyone understands that this year’s has more talent in it depth-wise due to the large number of under classmen who came out due to their fears of a rookie wage scale. The next two years will probably be weaker in depth due to this. If that’s the case, what’s wrong with trading low round picks in the next two years to get picks in this years draft or moving up without giving up picks in this years draft? Trading weakened value from the next two years to get a better player this year seems like a smart move. A pick in the low fourth round this year might be a high 3rd next year. Seems like good value to me.
I don't see how JPP would help the Cowboys
Going with a super raw DE/OLB would be a wasted pick. 1)Ware and Spencer are young and don’t need to come out for breathers very much, 2) the team already has 3 DE’s being converted to OLB in Butler, B Williams and Cujo 3) How many years are they going to spend a 1st rd pick on one position? 4) How many snaps could this guy realistically play? 5) Besides his athletic ability, what has he done? He only started 7 games at South FL, way too much of a bust risk. If they really went with yet another DE/OLB in the 1st, I would at least hope they pick a proven player like Hughes, Graham, Misi.
Sorry Aaron, but I’m not digging the JPP :(
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
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by TexasGarcia37 on Mar 30, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm surprised by the reaction to JPP.
Could Dallas use JPP? I was going to say ‘go see OCC’s post on the ferociousness of Demarcus Ware’. But I see OCC is anti-JPP.
I don’t get it. What’s the worst scenario below?
Flozell injury → Doug Free
Leonard Davis injury → Holland / Procter (ok, yikes on Procter)
Ware → Victor Butler
So I’d say yes, JPP could help Dallas. Plus in the mocks I trust (the ones I pay for) have JPP as the #12 pick (7th & 17th for Kiper and Mcshay respcetively). I’m using that as proxy for talent. So I’m assuming if he drops to 27 JPP is the BPA.
This guy is supposed to be Ware-esque physically. Who’s against that?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Mar 30, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not anti-JPP per se.
I just feel an overwhelming desire to come out of the draft with a roster that has strong, young depth at C, G and both OT spots.
If we cannnot address the o-line in the first, we trade down for an extra second rounder. Ducasse, Saffold, Veldheer would be great tackles to have, same goes for Jerry or Black at guard, C’s Walton and Tennant might both be 3rd round options.
Gimme, gimme, gimme.
by One.Cool.Customer on Mar 30, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Can JPP step in for Ware this year?
Lots of upside, but extremely raw. He would be a project. I am not against having a better back up for Ware, but JPP isn’t the guy I’d pick. He has a huge bust factor, IMO.
This type of player should be reserved for the mid-late rds.
Plus, more important, there has to be attention paid to the OL this year, there’s just no way Dallas can keep going without getting some good young prospects into the system. It would be much smarter to address the glaring need for OL depth than to spend another 1st rd pick at a position where Dallas already has solid starters and plenty of depth.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 30, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ware came out of Troy, as a DE
and when he went to college he was a WR, so changing positions is not that hard to fathom
though I think Ware was a slightly better prospect coming out, supposedly pulling a 4.56 and having demonstrably high character
by AustonianAggie on Mar 30, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem "fathoming" a guy going from DE to OLB
It’s common. But go back and compare Ware’s college production against JPP. JPP is a tadpole compared to Ware coming out. If JPP had similar production, I’d understand the hype.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 30, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
They've only spent two first rounders on OLB: Ware and Spencer.
Ellis and Carp were moved.
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by Aaron Novinger on Mar 31, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Well you could look at it that way
I look at it as the Cowboys using 1st rd picks on OLB in 2005, 2006, 2007 or, 3 of the past 4 years that they’ve has a 1st rd pick.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Mar 31, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If I'm not sold on Davis, I'm going JPP.
It’s a value pick vs. value pick here. Not a need (OLB) vs. a need (young LT).
Just because a guy is a left tackle, doesn’t mean he can play left tackle. I mean, the dude is protecting the QB’s blindside and all are willing to overlook his weight issues and lack of passion rumors just because he has a LT in front of his name? I don’t want some sloppy guy protecting Romo. I would rather take an athlete with enormous potential like JPP—some fireworks.
Personally, I like Doug Free and I agree with Jerry that he is more “left-tackleish”. So, if Free is the man, then draft a developmental LT later and put the Oline emphasis on G and RT.
Does anybody want Bigg Davis moving out to LT? I see Anthony Davis being quite the same type of player there.
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