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Cowboys Draft '10, Part 21: the Ball Pivot

Look at the list of Cowboys invitees which began to emerge yesterday and you'll notice a trend.  The usual suspect safeties are there, but so are an abundance of cornerbacks.  This year's draft lacks truly high-end corners, in the Deion Sanders, Charles Woodson mold (Joe Haden might not make the top ten, whereas guys like those were top-5 picks).  The class nonetheless shows depth.  A source told me the Cowboys think the position will certainly offer quality at the 1st/2nd round turn, depending on which player(s) remain. It's therefore possible that corner could be the first pick, though it's not the position most Cowboys fans would choose first.

We've discussed the reasons for replenishing corner before.  The NFL continues to privilege passing over running, with the spread attacks so prevalent in the college game seeping more and more into pro playbooks.  Three quality corners is the minimum for a team which wants to compete.  With the inconsistency and injuries at the position, four corners is a luxury all teams desire, but which few, if any, can claim.

Dallas has three solid corners in Terence Newman, Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick, but understands that Newman is past 30 and the clock could be winding down on his days as a top man-to-man cover corner.  If he were to decline, the lack of depth could hurt the Cowboys playoff designs.

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The key to the Dallas' secondary plans may be reserve defensive back Alan Ball.  The 7th-round pick currently occupies two key secondary spots.  He's the 4th corner behind Scandrick and doubles as Ken Hamlin's backup at free safety.  The team has expressed some interest in letting Ball battle Hamlin for the starting spot, but Ball seems stuck in between;  playing inside and outside is retarding his ability to master one of them. 

With Dallas having needs on the offensive line, inside linebacker, receiver and nose tackle, it seems unlikely that it would pick a safety and a corner in the early rounds.  I think Ball's flexibility means the team does not have to force a safety pick.  If the best option in the 1st or 2nd is a corner, the Cowboys will take him and make Ball a safety full time.  If one of the better frees is there, a Nate Allen or Morgan Burnett in the 2nd, say, the Cowboys will pick him and keep Ball on the outside. 

If the board breaks corner, what will the Cowboys' want?  They like big, athletic corners.  The Cowboys like their corners to excel in man-to-man and zone coverage, but Wade Phillips is all pressuring the quarterback.  He'll blitz as much as his secondary lets him. 

When you look at corner prospects, look for these qualities:

  • Can the player excel in man coverage?  Does he have the speed and quick-reaction skills to mirror quality receivers?
  • Can he be physical?  Good press coverage requires that corners jam their man at the LOS.
  • Does he possess a short memory?  All corners, even the best ones, get beaten from time to time.  Does the prospect linger on his miscues, and invite more big plays, or does he shake them off and make the remainder of the game hard for his opponents?
  • Can he tackle effectively?  Poor tackling corners will give as much yards ole-ing a toss play as they will on a deep out. Whiffing on a catch downfield is the difference between a big play and a big score.
  • Can he play special teams, as a returner or in coverage?  Corners and linebackers form the backbone of special teams and any prospect has to offer value here in addition to plays from scrimmage.

Dallas wants size.  They don't need huge corners, but you won't see them take guys under 5'10" unless those mighty mites possess exceptional speed.   The Cowboys starters are not the tallest guys (Newman is 5'11" and Jenkins and Scandrick both 5'10" but they're not shrimps either.  Short corners who lack warp speed become targets, and Dallas tends to steer clear of guys like this.

All of the Dallas corners of interest, the Wilsons, the Ghees, the Owusu-Ansahs, fits these profiles.  This means Dallas should have maximum flexibility on draft weekend.  Barring a trade down which brings an extra pick or two, they'll go corner OR safety.  Which one?  We won't know until the Cowboys come on the clock.

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Always good stuff.

I look at the draft from a completely different point of view than 5-6 years ago. To maximize your teams talent you have to be able see all angles.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Mar 30, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Kyle Wilson

Wilson looks to be the consensus number 2 CB in this draft after Haden. Some mocks show him lasting until Minnesota at number 30, although I doubt he would make it past GB at 23.

If there is no value left at 27 at OL or Safety, and no decent trade down prospects, I could see Wilson being considered by the Cowboys.

by doomsdayreturns on Mar 30, 2010 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Raf-

not to derail the 4th corner topic, but what’s your take on trading Barber and our 2nd rounder to a team to move into the first? Or some other combination of rounds…(MBIII+3rd=2nd, etc) Any value in that? Any potential takers?

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by KD Drummond on Mar 30, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I find that premise unlikely

ask yourself, who is willing to move down with you and take Barber in exchange?

First, start with Barber’s “naked” value. With the tread on his tires, what’s he worth? A 4th? a 3rd — maybe?

How many spots will the points for a 4th move you up? Three spots? 4 spots? Who in the early 20s needs a back? The Texans? Maybe, but they’re not taking Marion Barber. The Bengals? No. The Pats? No. The Packers? No. The Eagles? Doubt it. The Ravens? Absolutely not.

I just don’t see it.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 30, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention his contract

Even if he has some reasonable value as a player, his contract numbers take away much of that value. He will likely be in Dallas for a few more years.

by doomsdayreturns on Mar 30, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Incidentally...

Though the trade KDP describes can’t happen in this situation, I did hear Solomon Wilcots today talking about how he sees the Chargers as someone in need of a power back and third down blocking back like Barber rather than spending a pick and time to train up Ryan Matthews. Be interesting to know if there’s some reason he said that or it’s just conjecture.

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 30, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

San Diego has Super Bowl aspirations

so they may be the one team who might be willing to overpay a bit to get a ready made to combine with Sproles.

A healthy Barber is no worse and probably better than the ’09 version of Tomlinson, who looked shot. He still had the power but no burst.

What’s a SB run worth to you, A.J. Smith? If they call, I ask for their 2nd.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 30, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

they get a ready made pass blocker

and a guy who has proven to be a dangerous pass catcher in his career.

But seriously, MB3’s pass blocking for that offense, may be what gets him traded

by AustonianAggie on Mar 30, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

and I absolutely would not trade Dallas' 2nd.

This isn’t ’77,. This team has more than one hole. Name one guy you can get in the 12-15 range who puts this team over.

If Dallas looks up at, say, pick 15 and Bryan Bulaga is still around, I’ll think about trading up. But that’s about it.

In a year like this you can find three or four keepers in the first 4 rounds. I’m not going to limit myself to a 1st and a 3rd.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 30, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do think that pats might take him and a third for one of their 3 second round picks

by BigBad Joe on Apr 1, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like A Ball's speed and instincts

but he seems undersized for either position. I think he’s a perennial backup no mater what, but he does give the team some flexibility

I'm not losing my memory, I'm living in the now

by tdships on Mar 30, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Wade's been saying good things about A Ball

since he was a rookie, when he was overly thin CB from Illinois. He’s just a wiry dude — I think he’s the tallest CB on the roster; and T New is an elf compared to most NFL players. Size is not holding Ball back

by AustonianAggie on Mar 30, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hybird DB makes the most sense!

The Cowboys defensive backfield has a need for a future starting FS and depth at the cornerback position. Having 3.5 corners last year, with Newman’s recent injury history, made us all hold our breathe when any of our corners got banged up. I also was concerned that the Cowboys couldn’t match up against those high powered offenses, with multiple wide receiver sets, such as NO, GB & Minnesota. With the spread offense here now in today’s game, the best way to match up is to find players who can excel in man coverage and can be sure tacklers in space. Sensibaugh is the perfect example what you need at the safety position in today’s game: a hybird S/CB who can play in coverage and hold up against the running game. Earl Thomas would be ideal for our defense, where Cook & Awasi would also fit the mold that could play either spot.

by cowboyny on Mar 30, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Your post inspired me to think of this scenario

Okay, so the first round breaks in such a way that Kyle Wilson ends up being the logical pick. Cowboys fans, though not elated, understand that the secondary just got a huge boost.

Now on to the second; Ducasse and the other 2nd round OL prospects have already been picked. Lo and behold, there sits Morgan Burnett, a second round steal and college playmaker, but still another defensive player…

Cowboys fans, do you take him?

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by accidental innuendo on Mar 30, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes I would take him because he is BPA.

I would not reach for an OL in the 2nd and hope to get Jerry in the 3rd or Marshall Newhouse in the 4th.

by Flounder69 on Mar 30, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

and twice on Sundays.

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Mar 30, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You take Burnett!

There are needs in our defensive backfield where a corner & a safety would solidy the unit for next season and beyond. No lineman would be ready to unseat a starter immediately, more of the lines of developmental players who hopefully become future starters. In the middle rounds, you can two lineman to develop at both Tackle & Guard/Center. Adding Wilson & Burnett to go along with our current personeel would be downright nasty!

by cowboyny on Mar 30, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree for the most part

However, most peoples arguement is that an OL draft pick isn’t going to be ready to unseat a starter right away, while this is very true, it’s not going to change from year to year. A draftee may be able to unseat a starter next year, that doesn’t mean he’s going to be 100 percent ready for the NFL. Of course, I guess this could be applied to any position really

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by markdamack on Mar 31, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt you take him

by BigBad Joe on Apr 1, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Missing the Boat in Free Agency... Again

Nathan Vasher, a former pro-bowl cornerback with Super Bowl experience, was available for a short-term, $2 million year dance, and the Cowboys missed the boat… again. Is there a work stoppage at Valley Ranch? Will someone show up for the draft? Key free agent vets like Vasher and Jamal Williams would have; provided depth to positions of need; given the Cowboys more draft-day flexibility; and would have sent the message that this is the year.

by Montecito Tex on Mar 30, 2010 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Vasher is damaged goods

Having lived in Chicago, I can tell you, they weren’t sad to see him go. The only reason SD took him was because Rivera used to coach there, and still has some hope for him. He really doesn’t have much left.

by BWareofDWare on Mar 30, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

although tex presents thins in the most annoying and arrogant way possible, he is right

for that price vasher would have been a great addition. but its not all doom and gloom, we have not been eliminated from super bowl contention yet (i know you cant wait until that happens Tex, if it happens). There are still other good veteran CBs out there, and the list could get longer.

by Becho on Mar 31, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

How much flexability does Dallas need to draft the next

Roger Staubach. Colt McCoy at 27 will give Dallas 3 to 5 more SB trophies, right Tex :>)

by DIRE WOLF on Mar 31, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tex

Should migrate back to the DMN blog with the rest of those guys. The DMN blog is a safe haven for Tex and people just like him. I can’t even read the articles over there anymore.

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Mar 31, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cowboys do like speed at corner--4.4 and under 40 speed

Wilson and Ghee clocked 4.45 40’s (I still like them both). Patrick Robinson has acceptable size and clocked a 4.42, but has real trouble with press coverage. Unfortunately, because I don’t like him as a player, Crezdon Butler has the size and ran a 4.41 40.

Owusu-Ansah has the size and was clocked at a pro day at 4.39, and I like him because of the return ability he offers.

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Mar 30, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Just about every one of the top 15 CBs is 5'10" or taller

and you’re absolutely right on speed. I didn’t quantify it in time but it’s implied that you can’t play man if you can’t run, cause you’re not going to have safety help a lot of the time.

by Rafael Vela on Mar 30, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

My ideal scenario

Based on the Pat Kirwan (NFL.com) mock – having both Dez Bryant and Earl Thomas available at 27…we take ’em both by:
Trade MB3, and our 2nd and 3rd rd. picks to SD for their 1st and either a conditional (MB3 performance based) 2011 pick, or their 2010 4th rd. pick.

We win – by getting 2 high-value 1st rounders at positions of need plus an extra 4th (or equiv.) and more payroll flexibility (especially since both RW and Ken Hamlin could also become expendable after 2010).

SD wins – because they get a solid back for 2010-11 (while Dallas eats all the guaranteed $) plus 4 2nd+3rd rd. picks in a deep enough draft that they could all be impact players.

Seems unlikely, and makes OL even more pressing, but I would love to see it play out like this.

by Left Coast Cowboy on Mar 30, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Thinking about this

If both those players are available (pipe dream but you never know) that means you could draft one of them without giving up anything to anybody. So really, for just one of those players you are giving up MB3 plus two other picks in a deep draft. I would say no fn way to that.

by cwbys4evr on Mar 30, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

this would be concieveable if it was a future first founder instead of a 2nd

but would the cowboys do that. the way you have it written up there is too mice a deal for the boys IMO

by Becho on Mar 31, 2010 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Follow-up

Since 1 of you thinks it’s a bad deal for the boys and the other thinks it’s too good for them (I’m inclined to agree with that opinion)…I’ll just smile and think there’s at least decent balance in this.

cwbys4evr – u missed the 2010 4th rd. pick (or 2011 conditional 3rd) I have the cowboys getting, otherwise I’d agree with your assessment. That 4th rounder is basically the best I think the Cowboys could get for MB3 given his contract, 2009 performance and injury history. 5th rd. pick might be more realistic, but I think he’s a good fit in SD, where they need another RB and would really benefit from his pass blocking. Dallas trading their 2nd+3rd for any 1st that lands them a high value prospect in a position of need would be a big win IMHO.

Becho – If I’m the cowboys I’d rather give up a future 1st than a 2010 2nd…but with both Dallas and SD in “win now” mode for 2010, I don’t think SD would go for it.

by Left Coast Cowboy on Apr 1, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might a CB also give us a new starting FS?

I doubt we draft a starting FS or CB in round 1 or 2. I expect Hamlin and Sensabaugh to be starting on opening day 2010. Perhaps they draft a Safety but if they saw a better CB on their board why not draft one. I am old enough to remember when all these guys were called DEFENSIVE BACKS more than Cornerbacks and Free Safeties.

However, what if Dallas had a CB rated higher than any available Safeties. Might their be a PLAN B. Draft a younger CB and move TNEW to FS? Tnew can tackle and cover and could learn the FS position. He could be a ball hawking FS perhaps. Perhaps he discovers the Darryl Green fountain of fast legs after 30 and plays Cover CB for another decade………..or perhaps Jerry leans on a trusted secondary and position coach to put the old corner to new use. We resigned Newman to a contract that after seeing what Antrell Rolle got to play S for NYG…………doesn’t really look all that bad.

So we go into 2011 with Jenkins Scandrik Starting CBs. T New FS………and a player drafted in either 2010 or 2011 as SS?

Rod Woodson moved to S and Deion manned the Nickel CB position in Baltimore.

Before we say TNEW was breaking down it appears to me after he got the hernia corrected (which he played with for a while undiagnosed) he looked much better in 2010 than he has in years…….perhaps this plan is a PLAN C or D……….but it could well be a plan.

by Jon B. on Mar 30, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

T New can be a little flinchy in contact

not all the time, but once in awhile he plays like he has eggs in his pockets.

by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 30, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kyle Wilson Moment

My favorite moment of the Fiesta bowl this year was when TCU had BSU backed up in their own endzone, pushing for a score. The CBs were matched up in man, and Kyle wilson looks over to the TCU qb, lifts his hand, and gives a “Come here” hand gesture. The kid is a competitor. He has return ability and has played through injuries(several games with a cast on his forarm) He has a nose for the ball as well. I’m a BSU fan, so I can’t root for him without bias, but I do believe he’s going to be a solid pick for anyone that snags him.

by Mnky on Mar 30, 2010 11:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd be really happy with Wilson at 27

if all the top tackles, safeties and front seven players were gone by then.

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by Terry on Mar 31, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

A veteran FA CB needs to be a priority

With the injury issues Newman has had we need a backup plan.

by Becho on Mar 31, 2010 12:26 AM CDT reply actions  

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