The VRR: It's a Busy Day for the Dallas Cowboys Down at Valley Ranch
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Day number three of the offseason workout program. Potential draftees making their visits. Valley Ranch is indeed abuzz today.
Obviously, the biggest name arriving is Idaho's Mike Iupati; although, he may not be there when the Cowboys are on the clock. Here are the other players visiting Valley Ranch right now...as you read this!
Indiana (Pa.) defensive back Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Illinois receiver Arrelious Benn
Ohio receiver Taylor Price
Umass offensive lineman Vladimir Ducasse
Penn State linebackers Sean Lee and Navarro Bowman
Cal defensive end Tyson Alualu
Georgia Tech safety Morgan Burnett
LSU safety Chad Jones
Wake Forest defensive back Brandon Ghee.
More VRR after the jump.

What could the Cowboys be thinking with Penn State OLB Navarro Bowman?
If the Cowboys draft Bowman, projected as a late first rounder, it adds some pressure to a crowded core of outside linebackers behind Anthony Spencer and DeMarcus Ware.
Jerry Jones will have dinner tonight with OSU receiver Dez Bryant.
Bryant's Pro Day workout is receiving mixed reviews. But it's all good; he just forgot his cleats.
We're told that Bryant forgot to bring his cleats, and that as a result he had to wear a pair of brand-new shoes, which had not properly been broken in. As a result, Bryant was slipping, as NFLN's Mike Mayock pointed out when discussing the workout on the air.
Per a league source, at least one team measured Bryant's times in the 40-yard dash at 4.57 and 4.62 seconds, within the 4.52 to 4.68 range reported by NFL.com. He presumably would have run faster, but for the slipping.

Nick Eatman examines the possibility of the Cowboys drafting Dexter McCluster. Hmmm...
So how's a fourth back going to figure into the mix? Well, he better figure into something else, too. Like he better be able return kickoffs, punts or even both. Or maybe he can be a slot receiver, run the Razorback or even cover kicks on special teams. But the point to all this is that if the Cowboys are indeed going to increase the role for Jones, then maybe adding a player that can at least simulate his skills would be important, too. Anyone out there like that?
Well, the obvious answer is Ole Miss tailback Dexter McCluster. Right now, no one really knows what he is in terms of an NFL player. Is he a running back? A third-down back? A slot receiver? A return guy? The Cowboys know one thing - he's a good football player. And fortunately for them, they're in the business of taking good players first, and then figuring out where to play them.
Echoing Raf's post on the flexibility Alan Ball provides the Cowboys, Todd Archer looks at three prospects who may fit with the Cowboys as players who can contribute at different positions.
Three guys come to mind: Cal defensive lineman Tyson Alualu, Indiana (Pa.) defensive back Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and Idaho guard Mike Iupati. On his highlight tape we had the other day Alualu played both defensive end spots and nose tackle. Owusu-Ansah is a cornerback by trade but some think he can play safety, and he could also return kicks and punts. Iupati is the best guard in the draft, according to many, but there were rumblings coming out of the Senior Bowl of him having tackle feet.

It's strength and conditioning coach Joe Juraszek's time to shine with the players right now.
The workloads are equal, but the methods vary a little from player to player. Juraszek and his coaches develop specific plans for each, and they work closely with the Cowboys' medical and training staff to create specialized programs for rehabbing players. Three rookies from 2009 - offensive lineman Robert Brewster and linebackers Stephen Hodge and Brandon Williams - had season-ending injuries last year.
"Early it's real general because we're trying to set general physical preparation for everyone," Juraszek said. "Once we get to a point and we achieve that, then we become specialized - 1) to the individual and 2) to the guys at the position they play and the physical demands of that."
After missing Monday's voluntary workout, Ken Hamlin rejoined the team yesterday at Valley Ranch.
Will one day of lifting and running make a significant difference in Hamlin's prospects for this season? Probably not. But it does send a curious message to a team who, judging by reports, is debating cutting ties with him after three seasons.
With Flozell Adams and Hamlin participating in the offseason program, it's looking less likely that they will be released.
The fact the Cowboys have waited almost a month into free agency without cutting ties with either player is seemingly a good sign for them as well. Typically the club would want to be fair with its players, and give them a legitimate chance to land on their feet. Terrell Owens and safety Roy Williams were released just a week into free agency last year.
The Cowboys haven't shown any urgency to move on from Adams or Hamlin.

The Marion Barber trade talk is all speculation at this point.
We watched Jason La Canfora of NFL Network's report about Barber Monday. He was careful not to say the Cowboys were shopping Barber, just that executives around the league believe Barber could be available. That's hardly a stunner.
Barber is set to make $7.8 million in 2010 and has two cheap, excellent young teammates at running back. With those circumstances, it would be surprising if Barber wasn't available -- whether the Cowboys have shopped him or not.
Nice Q & A here between the Star-Telegram and Roy Williams. Here's a taste:
Quarterback Tony Romo says he still trusts you. Do you believe he has confidence in you?
Of course if I throw to a guy in the game and he is tripping by not catching the ball I would lose confidence in him, too. He won't say it publicly, but what quarterback wouldn't lose trust. I'm going to try to get in good with him and be his buddy. You have to make plays in the game to get the ball and get plays drawn for you. I have to make plays.

Remember Bill Parcells' 11 Commandments to being a successful NFL quarterback?
I - Ignore others' opinions
II - Clowns can't run a huddle
III - Fat QBs can't avoid the rush
IV - Know your job cold
V - Know your own players
VI - Be the same guy every day
VII - Throwing the ball away is a good play
VIII - Learn to manage the game: clock, clock, clock
IX - Get your team in the end zone
X - Don't panic
XI - Don't be a celebrity quarterback
JJT reviewed how Tony Romo has progressed in each. These two stood out to me:
V Know your own players: Miles Austin had one of the best seasons in franchise history, and Jason Witten continues to be among the best tight ends in the league. Patrick Crayton was a solid contributor, and Kevin Ogletree looks like he's ready to find a niche in the offense.
The only player Romo failed to consistently connect with is Roy Williams, who caught just 38 of 86 passes (44.1 percent) directed his way. Austin caught 81 of 124 passes (65.3 percent), and Crayton caught 37 of 67 passes (55.2 percent), so it certainly seems like the issue is more with Williams than with Romo.
VI Be the same guy every day: Romo has never been a moody guy. Or a player who pouts when he has a bad game. He's already figured out not to get too high or too low after a game.
If Romo is a celebrity quarterback, then he uses his "celebrity" well, as portrayed here in this story about #9 connecting with one of his young fans.
Tony, who was having lunch with his father and some friends, invited Robbie and Jim to sit down and join them while they had lunch. For the next 30 minutes, Tony and Robbie talked football and golf, with Robbie offering Tony a few football tips and recounting some Cowboys history.
"He tells Robbie that the Cowboys are going to have a better year next year," Jim said, "And Rob jumps up and shows him how you throw the ball. Tony is a very young man, but he's a super human being because he took time with Robbie. He is a gracious gentleman. They were finishing up and he told Rob, 'I've got to have another hug.' He got up and gave him another hug and then Tony asked him to give his dad a hug, too. So he had hugs all around. It's really hard to imagine how it could have been any better, particularly from our side. It was a once-in-a-lifetime deal."

The DMN is running a poll where you can Vote for the best Dallas Cowboys draft pick of all-time. Currently, Troy Aikman is matched up against Harvey Martin.
Once Texas Stadium is imploded on April 11, what will the city of Irving do to fill that void?
Texas Stadium, built for the Dallas Cowboys in 1971, "was what people saw as the main entryway to Irving," said Maura Gast, executive director of the convention and visitors bureau in Irving, which has a population of 201,000.
"We're literally changing the face, the front entry, of the city."
Exactly how remains to be seen. It is likely redevelopment of the site won't begin for another one to two years, until the Texas Department of Transportation completes an overhaul of the highway intersection. And a new public rail line to the site won't be completed until the end of 2011.
DC.com profiles Martellus Bennett.
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Great story on Romo.
I read the story earlier and was thinking what a level headed guy he seems to be.
Now if he can just add a ring to the equation…..
Anomoly............Finally here.........
You'll never see Roethlisberger doing that
He would probably tell the guy to take a hike, thats the kind of guy he is.
In Romo we Trust
+1 Big Ben
is actually KNOWN for snubbing on autographs and anything that would positively enhance his image. Seems like these days he has more fun tarnishing his image more and more
Ruthlessbanger
is a piece of human dog shit.
he’d make the dad pay for his meal and autograph.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Ha Ruthlessbanger
Classic.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 31, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Dexter McCluster is the player i take...
He is going to be a playmaker and would contribute on day 1…U can never have enough playersd with game breaking abilities …
he's definitely a playmaker
I’d take him over a lot of the receivers in this draft.
In Romo we Trust
He's so damn small though
I like the guy, a lot. As a Razorback fan, I watched him single handedly beat one of the top STATS qb’s in the NCAA let alone the SEC, in Ryan Mallet. But his size scares me, but if say its a thrid rounder, i take him, just because.
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+1
Watched alot of his games dude is just fast in the open field. His hair never touches his jersey it’s like it just floats or something.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
Yeah
I doub’t 90 percent of the defenders in the SEC even know what his face looks like, all they see is his back
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I feel like he would be
What every one wanted Skylar Green to be
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You don't mean the Same Bama that won the NC?
Because that could be your answer right there.
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Bama had Cody pushing their center and guard into the backfield on every play
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
+1
I hate that argument that Flounder has been preaching with players.
Bama shut down everyones run, they also ran the ball on almost everyone.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 31, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not true 3 rbs had good games against Bama and I would draft all 3
Anthony Dixon
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
But that shouldn't be the litmus test for runningbacks.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 1, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Not the only litmus test, but it is one I have used quite well in the past.
It has always been an opinion of mine that Dallas should draft players that do well against Bama. Pretty much has worked out well for Dallas. Witten, MBIII, and James all destroyed Bama during their days in college.
Yes I realize it is a pretty arbitrary system, but it has worked for me so far. Also this is added to plenty of other facts, stats and watching of games.
I disagree
He will be a difference maker but obviously not as a every down type of player….Alot thought Chris Johnson was too small when he came out of E carolina …
I dislike the CJ comparisions a lot.
CJ at the Combine was 5’11 197lbs and ran a 4,24 40.
DM at the Combine weighed in at 5’9 172lbs and ran a 4.45 at his pro day.
McCluster has good speed, but not great. He is also tiny and if he does get hit he will not hold up.
I don't like the CJ comparisons either
But trust me on this, when the kid got hit, he got hit by SEC players. He ain’t exactly fragile. I also can promise you that the kid has GREAT speed. As we always point out, 40 times dont always transfer to the football field. If you watched him ran in college, you should know this.
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Felix ran a 4.5 also
but we all know he’s much faster than that in pads. Same deal with McCluster. I doubt we’ll be able to take him but I wouldn’t mind a guy like him at all, just for his return ability.
agreed
how many people remember Kevin Williams? Short, fast. Jimmy Johnson spent a 2nd on him to be exactly what people think McCluster could be. And Williams came from the biggest college program in his day.
How did that turn out? Could he be an every down receiver? Nope. Troy Aikman trusted part-time Deion more than him. He had ONE big game, on x-mas day in ’95 against the Cards.
And was he any better as a slot receiver than 4th round Kelvin Martin or 7th round Patrick Crayton?
No.
IMO, you don’t use a 2nd on a part time player. You’re not playing the odds if you think the Devin Hester lightning will strike twice.
A 4th? Sure
but look at the guys coming in. Go back to the WR profiles we posted three weeks ago.
This is what Dallas wants in rounds one or two — big, fast, every down guys who have the chance to become number ones.
I wouldn't take him in the first or second
But i’d take him in the third
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I mean, who says he cant be an every down slot reciever?
I mean Kevin Williams played over a decade ago. I mean, Dex is just a little smaller than Steve Smith or Wes Welker, and not by much. And honestly, I don’t question anything about his game. The kid small and tough, just like a Steve Smith. Steve Smith was taken in the third round, propbably heard the same things about him. Wes Welker wasn’t even drafted. Now these are obviously the top of the bunch, but the kids got heart. He’s not scared to mix it up and he doesn’t shy away from hits. Hell, watch the kid lay this block…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew5OIwf_Its
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AAAAAAND
Dont forget…
" Overall, though, Run-DMC did well at the combine. He surprised with his bench press total, getting 20 reps of 225 pounds. That not only bested running backs like Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount and Fresno State’s Ryan Matthews, but it would have put him tied for first among receivers.
There is an argument that the 40 was not the number most scouts were interested in concerning McCluster anyway. He plays fast. The NFL guys wanted to see if the player who looked like he could slice bread with his cuts could shuttle with the best of them. McCluster’s 4.06 in the 20-yard shuttle was the second best time among running back and wide receivers.
Throw in another top performer rating in the vertical jump and it is hard not to consider McCluster’s performance at the combine this weekend solid."
Now his 40 time did suffer, but i’m not worried about that one bit, 99 percent of the time he was the fastest player on the field
Haha, ok im done presenting my case for Dex…finally
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Agreed
I like McCluster, but he’d be limited in what he could do.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
WR not RB: I'm not worried about durability so much as pass protecting at 165-170 lbs
I don’t trust a 170 lb man to protect Romo from the Blitz. I like the idea of drafting him as a WR to catch screens, short dump offs, and run end-arounds and reverses, but don’t expect him to be a RB unless you’ve got a FB/H-back in the backfield with him to block the 280 lb DEs on pass plays.
So the 2009 Martellus Bennett..
..highlight clip is all of 1:14 long huh? Didn’t watch it, but at least :50 of it has to be him using twitter.
lol I was gonna say something about that as well
I watched it unfortunately. His longest gain on that highlight is about 10 yards.
I remember that Washington game, there were a couple of balls he caught he was so afraid to drop that he bearhugged the ball like it was his twitter account.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 31, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, Roy Williams...
At this point we have no other choice but to hope for the best with this cat. At least he’s speaking realistically and in a proactive manner… Will he improve his execution? Probably not. But as a fan I figure I’m obligated to keep my fingers crossed.
I'm hoping
..that the WR visits aren’t just smokescreens. We"ve been practically in the same shape at WR since the arrival of Terrell Owens. Meaning, one guy who scares people, and role players, otherwise. Fortunately for us, Miles became T.O. at least. I have high hopes for Ogletree and believe he can be high impact, but…. he hasn’t yet. So, we need to give ourselves options in finding another scary guy outside. Fortunately, we don’t have a lot of needs across the board and the ones we do have can be plausibly addressed through the first 4 rds of the draft. But, I believe more attention needs to focused to WR than most are allowing. After all, we’re just one injury away from not having a No. 1 or a No. 2!
i don't know about you but
RW scares the hell out of me every time he lines up..
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Mar 31, 2010 3:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t mean to slam his grammar, he sounds understandbly upset, but it’s funny
by AustonianAggie on Mar 31, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
“If you don’t pick me i’ll kick your ass for 15 years” As much as I hate Mike Florio, he pegged that reference perfect.
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Kid has a documented learning disorder
Doesn’t mean he can tear it up on the football field.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Hahaha...
C’mon Terry, Bryant "haven’t did anything wrong to nobody".
And anyway, the playbook is soooo 2006. Requiring players to know and understand the playbook "I just feel like that is not right because it’s not right". Yeah!
Guys just need their ‘fiszical skillz’!!
Just ask Pacman or Martellus Bennett!!
Just because you had a learning disorder
Doesn’t mean you can’t play. Wasn’t it Dexter Manly who couldn’t even read?
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Rain man was a Ruh Tard he he practically bankrupt a casino
Hahaha love that movie
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
Well it's not really Grammar
It’s just him talking, if he wrote like that, i’d be a little worried. Everybody talks their own way I suppose, hell you ever heard Randy Moss talk? now thats hilarious hahah
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I want Dexter
Just so I can call every mistake a “McCluster f***”.
There was an Eli joke I wanted to make about Tony’s lunch but I just can’t.
Love the talk RW, now let’s some of it on game day.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Mar 31, 2010 3:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Tyson Alualua and Sean Lee
Are two guys not getting a lot of ink on this site, but could be real nice fits for the Cowboys. DE Tyson Alualua could be available with the 59th pick in round 2. He’s an ideal 3-4 End at 6-3, 295 and had 13.5 sacks over the last 2 years. Not bad for a college DT.
ILB Sean Lee could be available late in the 3rd round where Dallas picks at #90. He’s had some injury problems, missing his entire junior year and three games last year as a Sr. But his play on the field was excellent. Could be a nice replacement for Keith Brooking after a year of tutoring.
I think Cal runs a 3-4
so Alualua has played DE and T in a 3-4 already.
by I_miss_Switzer on Mar 31, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Alualu is one of my pet cats as well
Better than his 13.5 sacks over the last two years… for a DT, he actually racked up 122 tackles, 21 tackles for loss and 13.5 sacks over the last two years playing DE in Cal’s 3-4 defense.
Those numbers are all the more impressive when you realize he produced them as a 3-4 DE. Should make his NFL transition all the more seamless as well.
We already have a replacement for Brooking.
Remember we drafted Jason Williams in the 3rd last year. We need a replacement for James.
Owusu-Ansah
With which pick could we nab him? The idea of playing a semi-ballhawking ( in his case ) CB at S like Jairus Byrd entices me.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 31, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone know how many ints he had in college?
Looked everywhere and couldn’t find it.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Bob looks really fast
Big strides.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 31, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
According to NFL Draft Scout:
“After two years playing behind veteran corners for IUP, [he had] 8 INTs and 10 PDs in ’08, teams stayed away from Owusu-Ansah last fall. His 27 TKLs, 2 INTs and 4 PDs were good enough for first-team All-Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference-West and second-team AP Little All- American honors.”
Increasing his value is the fact that he returned 4 punts and 3 kickoffs for TDs, with 5 of the 7 returns coming in ‘09. I was hoping he would last until the ’Boys late third round pick, but that’s look less and less likely.
+1
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Let the beatings begin
I am a huge Dez backer and have posted that he recently ran a 4.32. I realize that this is now not possible. He has shown himself to be a potato(e) head to the core. He is indefensible. Will he be a good pro? who knows.
to quote the movie, Forrest Gump, "he must be the stupidest SOB alive, but he sure is fast
sigh
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
the review of his workout said two things
he ran sharp routes and he had good hands.
Thats what great WRs are made of
by AustonianAggie on Mar 31, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What stood out to me
was his vertical and broad jump. There are no better measures of pure instant explosiveness than those two drills (better than the 40). Plus, Lande at Sporting News said that he thought his slower times in the 40 had more to do with form than anything else. I suppose you could argue that shows his work ethic is less than great, but I think that talent is definitely there.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 31, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
*top-ten talent
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Mar 31, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The same things were thought about Randy Moss
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
That is a gross exaggeration
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Oh please
You are such a hater. Exactly what you accuse others of being.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
lol
BTB League Consolation Ladder Champ...thought you knew.
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah I should qualify that anyway “the review written by Mayock that I saw said two things that stood out to me: etc etc” (I think it was his)
by AustonianAggie on Mar 31, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
My only hope
Is that he made comments like that during his meeting with Jerry.
If he’s already crying about the negative attention now, he’s going to be livid if things go bad in the pros and hometown papers start riding him. It definitely shows his immaturity.
There isn’t anyone in the draft that has been bad mouthed more over the past 3-4 months than Tim Tebow with his throwing motion. Difference is, Tebow kept his mouth shut and did his best to prove them wrong.
If Dez chose better mentors than “Prime Time” or “Pacman” to hang out with, maybe they would tell him to zip it, show what he’s got on the field and don’t make it worse by coming across as a complainer. Making threats is not going to help his case at all.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/bryant%3A-pre-draft-criticism-has-%60gone-too-far%27
“Whoever passes up on me, it’s over with. I feel like I’m going through the same situation Randy Moss did,” he added. “That man had issues and teams were passing up on him, and when he got on that field, he killed them. He murdered them. Look at him today: One of the best players in the NFL.”
Until he can prove himself on the field, Bryant can only defend himself with his words.
- He said he brought six pairs of shoes to his pro day-style workout at his high school in Lufkin, Texas, and – regardless of the hubbub around his missing cleats – he was happy with his performance although “in my mind I always feel like there’s room to improve.”
“You know how players have their particular cleats that they want, the ones they are comfortable in? I didn’t have those,” Bryant said. “I’m not saying it would have made any difference. But I’m saying I didn’t have those.”
Rabid and luvin' it
This is pro or con Bryant...
but Pacman isn’t his mentor, and he hasnt’ been spotting hanging out with him.
He was working out around him because they have the same trainer… just want to clear that up.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 31, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
don't you know that Dex is a bad guy, a terrible human being, who is dumb, slow, probably ugly, and no team should waste a first, second, third or fifth round pick on? Fourth is ok
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I was excited when I heard his pro day was so-so
There’s still no chance he falls all the way to 27, but a man can dream…
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Mar 31, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
they threw him 23 balls and he caught 17 and had four TDs.
I was talking
about his rookie year. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.
Arellious Benn
…is going to make someone happy. Juice Williams was one of the FBS’ worst QB’s but Benn still made highlight reel plays.
I’ve liked him for quite some time.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
+1
Benn is a tremendous talent. I would take him over any other receiver I saw last year – which doesn’t include Dez Bryant but does include Golden Tate, Brandon LaFell, Damian Williams, and Jordan Shipley. He’s the been the most talented Big Ten WR for the last several years, but on an incredibly bad team.
What makes Calvin Watkins think Bowman must be an OLB in the 3-4?
Bowmann is a tremendous athlete who could play inside or outside in the 3-4. In fact, due to his size I would project him to the inside where he can use his speed and mobility, rather than the outside where he would have to take on OTs and TEs. We could definitely use another option at ILB, although I would rather have the intelligence and leadership of his teammate Sean Lee.
I dont know
what scares me more … the fact that Bryant ran a 4.57, or that he FORGOT his cleats on his pro day.
He said he didn't forget his cleats
He brought six pair with him, he said he forgot his “favorite” cleats
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Arrelious Benn
I agree with the comments above. One of my favorite players in this draft. I’m also not high on Brandon LaFell at all. He never once impressed me when I watched him in college.
I agree on Lafell...
I think he’s a late round pick, but I wouldn’t touch him in the first three.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 31, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
LaDrop is more like it
Thats what I called him this year, I mean he had a decent year but it could have been alot better if not for all the drops.
Someone's always Going to be Hating on Da Boyz
Most troubling invite
That would be a bad pick IMO
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
On DC Website More Visits Tommorrow!
I just read on the Dallas Cowboy Website, more players coming in for a visit tommorrow:
Bryant, Nate Allen, Pouncey, Jerry
It appears that the team is bringing in all the top interior lineman, which may suggest Free is in their future plans at LT.
I don't know where to post this ... but it's the best article I've read about a draft prospect
and I hate the player they’re touting …
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3171_A_tale_of_six_quarterbacks.html
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Mar 31, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions
Great article, thanks Fan.
Tebow sure gets a colossal amount of grief that seems mostly completely unjustified. Many media and fans really seem to loathe this guy personally and by extension they must denigrate his game.
Tebow may or may not be a good QB at the next level but he doesn’t seem to have any more or less question marks about him than any of the other QB’s ahead of him this year or in the years previous. Yet there’s whole legions of media "experts" and fans who just know he’s going to be a complete bust.
Cold, Hard Football Facts have only proven...
that you can use stats to support any argument you like.
Heisman trophy winner Matt Leinart had a better completion percentage, higher YPA, more TDs, fewer interceptions and a better passer rating than Peyton Manning, as well.
Matt also had the advantage over Tebow that he came from a pro style offense, he had no problem with mechanics (and as Holmgren and other coaches/GMs have claimed, you can work on your mechanics all you like, but once you’re placed back in pressure situations you almost always see players revert to their original delivery), and Leinert didn’t have former WR teammates calling him out publicly telling all that would listen he is overrated as a pure passer.
Perhaps Tebow’s fall down draft boards is a reflection of teams desire to avoid spending a premium pick on the next Couch, Russel or Leinart simply based on gaudy stats.
I’m not saying Tebow will be the next NCAA hero turned NFL zero. I’m saying there’s far more to evaluating the pro potential of a college QB prospect than you’ll find in their stats.
like I said, I'm not a Tebow fan
and before I read that article I was sure that he would bomb as a pro.
however, I’m questioning that conclusion after reading that article.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Apr 1, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm really not sure how you can say...
… "the cold hard football facts have only proven that you can use stats to prove any argument you like".
The stats they showed are all the standard and important stats that are used when looking at a QB’s production in college. It’s not like they twisted the numbers around or made up a special formula that suits Tebow. When compared to his top players in his conference over the last decade his passing numbers come out on top by a very large margin using the standard NFL rating formula.
In other words he was a fantastically productive college football player and that production translated to wins in big games. That’s what their stats show because it’s actually true, he was productive and he did win big games.
The point of their article was there is no guaranteed success for anyone transitioning to the NFL. No matter how great a player you may have been in college (Tebow) or no matter how perfect your technique is (they referenced Couch, you used Leinhart but the point is the same). It’s a gamble as history proves again and again. So they say they would rather gamble on someone who was All-Time Great productive on the field like Tim Tebow than someone who was much less productive but is viewed as being more technically sound.
I’m not saying things like technique and playing in a pro style offense aren’t important but just that having perfect technique and a pro style offense doesn’t guarantee success (as you cited yourself). I understand the concerns about Tebow’s style of play and much of it is legitimate but there’s plenty of media and bloggers who are claiming this guy is nothing better than a mid-round (or later) pick at best or is some sort of guaranteed bust. What nonsense. All the more reliable and rational projectors are predicting this guy will go early second round.
People also harp about "Tebow’s not ready to start in the NFL and he’ll need a year or two" like this is some sort of insurmountable obstacle. I totally agree with the idea he’s probably not ready to start but so what? Apart from Bradford, none of the QB’s look ready to start at all.
There’s always a lot of talk this time of year about not getting carried away with measurables or work out warriors and that you always need to go back to the tape and check a players game film and that should be your deciding factor. And yet here we have a guy that has one of the best game film libraries of All-Time and many people simply seem to want to ignore it based on their personal crystal balls.
I think it is an awful article.
I honestly like Tebow and don’t wish ill upon him, but they ignore so many factors when they say he was a better passer than all those QBs they put up for comparison. They ignore the system that he works in (one that is emphasizes easy throws and spread out matchups), they ignore the fact that his mechanics are going to need changing for him to be most effective, and they somehow manage to miss the basic fact that his success in college by no means gives him a better shot at succeeding in the NFL than a guy like Matthew Stafford. I mean it doesn’t take a genius to throw on some tape of Tebow versus Sam Bradford to see that Bradford is much more accurate, more consistent, and more able to fit the ball in small windows (how many of Tebow’s passes go through tight windows relative to other QBs). I certainly think that if Tebow works hard and smartly that down the road he could be a very effective NFL QB, but to write that article is a bit ridiculous (amazing passing game success does not necessarily equal amazing passer skills).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
The point I took from it was that...
…people are over emphasizing his negatives and under valuing his positives and achievements.
Take Sam Bradford;
"Doesn’t own a cannon arm"—-"Uses anticipation and accuracy to connect on deep outs; NFL corners may jump those throws"—-"Throws from three-quarter slot at times, which negates his height advantage"—-"Often hit the primary read or quick screen in Oklahoma’s spread offense"—-"Lack of feel for backside pressure and missing late blitzers cost him dearly last season"—-"Trusts his arm and receivers too much in tight spaces, and at times won’t recognize dropping linebackers and late-moving safeties"—-"Not a scrambler or very elusive as a runner in space"—-"Needs to vocally hold teammates more accountable"—-"Lack of bulk and durability are major questions after missing of last season with a shoulder injury".
What about Jimmy Clausen;
"He tends to throw high when missing because of his delivery"—-"Enough arm strength to make every necessary NFL throw, but requires great effort to do so"—-"Tries to throw too hard at times, and needs to take a bit off short passes"—-"Winds up a bit when trying to unleash a fastball, allowing defenders to react"—-"Gets happy feet if line is struggling to protect him and will throw off back foot. His average height and tendency to wind up could hinder ability to get the ball through the line"—-"Takes too many chances downfield, eschewing his underneath options and trusting his receivers but not acknowledging safety help over the top"—-"Throws late over the middle or across his body, which he won’t get away with in the pros"—-"Needs to secure the ball better when scrambling. A bit late feeling backside pressure"—-"Maturity has been a question mark in the past, and he can get salty with coaches and teammates during a game".
If someone harped endlessly about their potential shortcomings and they have some real ones, without acknowledging, or only halfheartedly or begrudgingly acknowledging their positives I’d say that person has an axe to grind against them. That’s what it sometimes seems like is happening with Tebow.
The real question I have about Tebow (and any QB really) is whether he’s smart enough to retain and use quickly on the field all the knowledge that is required of an elite QB. His Wonderlic (22) doesn’t inspire in that regard though he had a good GPA (3.66). If I was a scout I wouldn’t be overly worried about his mechanics as those things can be corrected (or even don’t need to be; see Philip Rivers) but I’d grill him endlessly about coverages, reads, hot routes etc. But then again I’d do that to any QB I was thinking about drafting.
Chris Mortensen predicting Clausen falls out of the top 20
and might last all the way to Minnesota at 30 if the Jags don’t draft him at 10.
if that’s the case, the Cowboys are doubling up in the second… you’d think someone would move up to take him
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I've never heard a WR be so honest and contrite as RW is being now.
RW – "My biggest disappointment is not being able to help the team" Williams said. "I felt like I didn’t do anything last year. I dropped balls and what not. I didn’t think my name would be on top of the drop list ever in my life. It was a humbling experience. It showed me I better get my life together".
It sounds to me like this guy is really disappointed in his game and genuinely wants turn it around and be a valuable contributor. Maybe I’m a sucker but I can’t help but root for the guy.
This is so much better than TO
Who would have thrown everyone else under the bus before he admitted fault.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
yeah, I know...
hell, he might have even blamed it on his shoes…zing!
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Same here.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to thank about the last 15 posters
That was some good reading on my morning wake up. You too Aaron. Nice piece, bud.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 1, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW Aaron.
That’s been done. I remember one day when I was a young (and dumb) buck, getting strange looks everywhere I went. I noticed, but wrote it off as a cosmic shift or something. Well, that night in the Golden Nugget, downtown Carson City, some guy walked up laughing, and pulled the sign off my back. It read, "Kick my ass, I’m an “effing” asshole." That sign had been on my back all day long, put there by my classmates. When I brought it up to them the next day, the whole freakin class started laughing. It was on my back for more than 12 hours.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.
Happened to me too once when I substituted for 8th graders.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
No Dunk
That was some great stuff. Cup of coffee, the internet, wake up at my own pace, and read some good old Cowboy up. I felt my opinions being swayed.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather -- not screaming like the passengers in his car.

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