NFL Free Agency '10: Sign-and-Trades Are Possible
Study this passage from a Seattle Times story on WR Brandon Marshall, who visited the team today:
As for whether Marshall will be staying in Seattle, expect this to be the first step in a what could be a longer process... Do not expect the sides to negotiate or sign an offer sheet because that would offer no room for negotiation in the compensation the Broncos would receive. (emphasis mine)
Now, look at this passage from the Baltimore Sun on the Ravens need to recoup draft picks:
The lower-than-expected tenders to three restricted free agents (Clayton, offensive tackle Jared Gaither and quarterback Troy Smith) seem like the Ravens are enticing teams to make them offers for these players.
Finally, a passage from the Miami Herald:
Another restricted free agent safety is Indy's Antoine Bethea. The guy was a Pro Bowl player, if you recall. The draft pick compensation on him is substantial -- a first round pick. But one would supposed the team could always work a trade with the Colts rather than give up the first-round selection. (Maybe a second-rounder?)
Three beat writers making the same general claim, which appear to confirm a point I raised yesterday. The tenders placed on players are not absolute unless the player signs an offer sheet which is not matched. The tenders appear to represent starting points in negotiations. Lots of people have wondered why the Seahawks would entertain signing Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet, when doing so would mean forfeiting the 6th overall pick in the draft. The linked passage suggests why -- Seattle has no intention of surrendering that pick for Marshall.
The Seahawks may have to give up their early 2nd rounder or the Broncos may insist on the second 1st-round pick the Seahawks possess -- it was originally Denver's pick and they may enjoy getting it back. If a deal comes off the compensation for Marshall will be negotiated. One can assume that Seattle would then get permission to negotiate a long-term deal with Marshall, He would then sign that contract with the Broncos, and he and that contract would then be dealt to the Seahawks for the agreed upon pick(s).
This scenario is likely to be played out more and more once the big name free agents settle, and many of them have already found new addresses, or re-signed with the old teams.
When you read the stories on Gerald Sensabaugh and wonder if a team would give up a 2nd for him, temper your expectations. Plenty of teams may want him -- if the Cowboys are willing to deal him for a lower price.
The same is likely true for every young tendered RFA who looks to have a future. The biggest question will be what the "real" compensation should be?
The NFL has taken a major step towards NBA-dom. If this produces more trades, the uncapped system could produce even more fan interest.
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Sensabaugh cant be a happy camper knowing Rolle just robbed Fort Knox....
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Yeah but...
I think thats pretty different circumstances don’t you?
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 6, 2010 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
I cannot believe they paid him that
That seems like a hefty price tag for Rolle, & I’m beginning to think Jerry Reese is a frickin idiot
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
I think they were in a pretty desperate situation with Rolle.
I thought the Canty deal last year was bad, but I think that they were in a situation that their Safety play was so bad they needed to desperatley make a move.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 6, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think Boley has turned out to be what they thought either
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Which brings me to the question
Which of Jerry Reese’s acquisitions have had an immediate impact? Maybe I’m not accounting for all of them, but it seems like every move he has made has come back to bite the Giants in the ass or just done absolutely nothing for them
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
I think Reece is the 2nd coming of Parcells
I think his drafts in recent years have been quite good,
but his free agent signings, not so much.
Ha, great point.
Living in Giant-land, can’t wait till to hear what the talking heads have to say about this move over the coming days.
Unfortunately, the Jets are the media darlings in the local area right now, so this may fly under the radar (as far analysis is concerned).
Good Point
Didn’t think about that
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
i don't care
if he doesn’t happy he could go away, he know he doesn’t worth that much, just see the vikings game
not sure
he was pretty good for a bit there, Hopefully Rex is looking for Mays in the draft
by nicholas.rodriguez on Mar 6, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if the Jets are one of the teams considering Sensi.
the dumped one of their starting corners in Lito Sheppard, dumped Rhodes and cut their nickel CB. They got Cromartie to replace Sheppard but they’re really thin back there.
Shepard to Boys?
Should the boys have any interest in Lito, he seems to gettable at a bargain, & im always down for depth at d back
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
No
Lito isn’t better than any of the CBs on the roster.
Yep....
Sheppard fell off the planet.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 6, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
you saw the story today of Antonio's massive child support needs
and people wonder why other teams passed on him.
Mister, how rich would you be if you just had a vasectomy?
Rimshot!
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
aynyone saw that espn story
claiming now the jets have the best tandem at CB in the league?
made me laugh
Well, Revis is the best corner in the league
so if you combine him with anything better than the rotting corpse of Lito Sheppard you can at least enter the conversation. Cromartie is pretty mediocre overall though. But Lito Sheppard is horrible.
Before last year, definitely
The guy was a monster his first couple of years. But he really dropped off last year.
The Jets questioned his work ethic.
I have to wonder myself about somebody who can’t play for Rex Ryan. He’s as big as players coach as you’ll find.
We’ll see which Rhodes the Cards get. If the ’08 guy returns, they got a steal. He does sound like a Tiki Barber, a guy with lots of off field interests who rubbed his teammates the wrong way.
Of course, that could also be Jets spin to explain dealing him. We’ll see.
Rhodes had the attitude that he was bigger than the team!
Hey Rafael, I have been a long-time reader of your great writeups about the Cowboys. The best information and knowledge found on entire net, along with excellent work from all you’re other contributing writers. Keep up the great work! I thought it was finally time to share my comments on this board. A big Cowboy fan from NYC, where my wife is a die hard NY Jet fan. The word internally about Kerry Rhodes was he didn’t make any impact plays what so ever last season, along with having a big head after signing his extension last offseason. Any issues in his game, he would point fingers at his teammates. You are dead on about the comparsion with Tiki Barber.
Jenkins?
Mike Jenkins did the same thing 2 seasons ago(pointing fingers) & i hated him doing it & hated him for doing it. But man did he turn it around the following season.
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
The Cowboy's Mike Jenkins?
He wasn’t even on the team 2 seasons ago.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Then you tell me how many seasons he's played in the NFL
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Two
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
We won our first playoff game in 16 years last season, remember?
therefore he was a rookie 2 seasons ago, how else can i explain
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
No
Last season = 2009
One season ago = 2008 (Jenkins rookie season)
Two seasons ago = 2007
Not a big deal, just semantics.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
???
Ummmm I never remember Mike Jenkins pointing fingers.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 7, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
Jenkins Did Have That Embarrassing
Moment on the Derrick Ward touchdown run two years ago. He’s been golden ever since. More evidence to not overreact to a player’s performance early on.
Yeah but I never remember him pointing fingers.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 7, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
He Did, Indirectly
After that, he claimed the linebacker on the play (Kevin Burnett) would have been knocked down had he gone for the tackle, implicitly throwing Burnett under the bus.
A pretty embarrassing moment, but which fortunately appears to be way back in the rear view mirror now.
He did it quite frequently
I couldn’t just make something up of that nature. He did it often & I vehemently remember him doing it. Remember as you will, but I put my testicles on it.
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
OK....
That’s crazy that he did it so frequently and yet I hardly remember this.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 7, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
He blew it in that Giants game, but I don’t remember Jenkins finger-pointing frequently. I think I would have remembered that, too. Roy Williams? He was always (literally) pointing at another player after he got burned in coverage. Jenkins? He’s cocky, and that Giants gaffe was embarrassing, but I don’t know of a single other instance where he called someone out. Much less did it frequently.
Do you have links, devendra?
I'm not trying to say someone is dead wrong...
but I’m probably as addicted to this site as anyone, and we all know that when players act like ass’s you see it frequently.
If he pointed fingers all the time, this would have been brought up a ton, but it isn’t… the only big thing with jenkins was the Giants tackle on Ward, which was repetitvely talked about on here, but I’ve never heard of another instance of him pointing fingers.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 7, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'll say it
He’s dead wrong. I don’t remember Jenkins doing that, and I’ve never seen anyone else say he did that.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Yeah....
I’m kind of with you.
Roy Williams the safety was the big finger pointer.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 7, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Why not pull the trigger on him?
It seems like the Jets were looking to dump him. Aren’t those the guys you go after to get the best bargain (Boldin & Cromartie)?
I’m guessing the Boys have all off season to cut Hamlin, if so, Raf, do you see them replacing & cutting him? Or should I count on seeing Hamlin with a star on his helmet next year? I personally like the guy & the leadership he brings, but based on what everyone else is saying, it would seem it is time for him to roll on out of big D.
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
pull the trigger on whom?
Rhodes was traded to the Cards today.
Rhodes
I realize that he was traded today, therefore letting me know he was attainable. What could have been the reasoning behind the cowboys not chasing him? He seems like he is what we are looking for in our safety opposite sensi, but maybe I’ve miscalculated.
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
His steep decline this year at a young age
The Jets has the top ranked defense in the league and they benched him this year.
If Rex Ryan couldn’t get this guy to produce, you want to take a risk on him? Dallas needs a quality dependable S, maybe two if Sensi leaves.
Makes sense
I can’t fault Jerry on staying away from character issues. Hell could possibly freeze over if Sensi bails. I would be willing to bet all progress made in the secondary last year would wither up & die with the loss of Sensabaugh, even Jenkins progress would be overshadowed by the lack of a cover safety. Jerry CANNOT take this Gerald thing lightly.
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Kind of an "over the top" statement. Sensabaugh has played well for us and I want to keep him, but
the defense doesn’t revolve around him. If another team offers ridiculous money, do you seriously let them dictate how you run your team?
No
but on the same note, this is the guy who shored up the defensive back field. I agree, he’s not the best at his position & can be replaced. But he is also very valuable to the cowboys and should not be allowed to get away. All I know is when Williams(#31) was back there we had some major deficiencies, sensi comes in & things change. I’ll let you dictate how much he means to this team when he’s not here
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Hey, I want to keep him and never said he wasn't valuable. I'd give him a fair contract. But if it takes
Rolle money to keep him, I’m OK with letting him go. You can’t run a team without looking at all of the ramifications, especially long term. I want money to be able to sign other players as they become available, and too keep some of the other tendered players we have. Let’s not put him in the valuation of a Romo or Ware.
I wouldn't make that mistake w/ his valuation
He ain’t worth Rolle money, I’m with you there. I just don’t think we have his replacement right now, therefore getting it will take some time, at least a year. Meaning that losing him could be a pretty big blow to a team looking to go to the big dance this year
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
How did I value him wrong? He's not as valuable as Romo or Ware. That's a fact.
How do you know we don’t have his replacement? I’m not positive we do, but how does anyone outside of Cowboys staff know? I’ve just been responding to some of the “over the top” comments you have made…
“Jerry CANNOT take this Gerald thing lightly.” <== In what instance has he done this?
“all progress made in the secondary last year would wither up & die with the loss of Sensabaugh”<=== didn’t improved corner play and pass rush also factor into this?
OK....
Cannot is present & future tense, I never said Jerry has done(past tense) anything to take it lightly.
I was saying that I would not value him with Romo or Ware, so I don’t know where you are coming from there.
My fault, I’ll make sure & post comments that aren’t “over the top” & fit better to your liking
I took nothing out of context with you, you have taken almost everything out of context with me, I don’t know where to go from here with you. I could say something that would force you to blow up.
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Dude, you have the right to write whatever you want in any way you want...
Your opinions are openly welcome here on this board, just like mine are…I was just responding to some of the comments you made. I wasn’t trying to antagonize, just disagreed with your take on Sensi. Most people on here want to keep Sensi and thinks he made a difference in our secondary, but when you used the words “wither up & die” to describe the secondary without Sensi, I had to respond.
I understand
I get you, that was a little of a hyperbole. I just feel like regardless of talent, what the guy brings to the team is quite valuable. I just felt like you were arguing over my words more than the point, but I see where you are coming from & agree with you
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Wow!!!!!!
Seni was solid but was no game changer.He also blew sum plays ex.( chargers & vikings) I think jj learnd his lesson on over payn for guys ex. Hamlin, Barber, Roy E Williams… Plus there is no rush 2 sign this guy we got a pick attach to him. So if a team wish to sign him fork over the pick!!!! Plus also no we got k.hamlin who we really did not look at but still crack the roster. So if jj really wantd Sensi he would hav attach a 1st on him on a uncap year at that. Sensi is trade bait he is trade able at a 2nd round tender possible bein dealt for a 3rd
by lostar2009 on Mar 7, 2010 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
whats up with Whitner in Buffalo?
He worth a look?
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
I don't think he's a huge upgrade.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 7, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
He had a pretty good rookie season
and hasn’t been as good since. He’s not horrible, not good either.
When I first saw that teams had interest in Sensi
I was like " damn, maybe that second round tender was too low ". I guess not.
I don’t think Jerruh trades him for less than a 2.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 6, 2010 11:01 PM CST reply actions
I dont' think the trades are going to be crazy
look at players who have tenders higher than you expect.
their teams are likely using them to scare other teams away.
Look at players with lower than expected tenders. Those are “come and get me” lures.
Players in the middle? You’ll probably see haggling. Completed deals? Who knows?
But do you believe we could lose Sensi?
That would be a devastating blow.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 6, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
We lose Sensabaugh if his salary demands are too high. If another team offers him Rolle money, should
the Cowboys match? I recall the Hamlin contract right at the heels of the Gibril Wilson signing. Never again. I very much want to keep Sensabaugh, but not at a ridiculously overpriced contract. Let’s hope Michael Hamlin has got some game or we continue to draft well.
I was actually wondering if we could lose him in a trade.
Plus, the fact that they’re asking for a lower price on a deal tells me that the teams interested might not be willing to throw a boatload of money at him.
But if he signs an offer sheet for Rolle money, then hey, run with the 2nd rounder.
by Cowboysaficionado on Mar 7, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
Not even Rolle is worth "Rolle" money
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
I don't see the Cowboys wanting to trade him, but I suspect the reason they haven't already offered him
a contract this off season, is because the front office thinks they have someone on the roster already that can challenge him at a fraction of the cost. They just want to keep him for one more year to give a younger player some seasoning.
Disagree
They don’t want to pay him now because they goofed with Hamlin & learned their lesson, DO NOT SIGN A GUY BASED ON A SINGLE SEASON.
- see Miles Austin
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
We don't know if they have offered him a contract (outside the tender)...
We just know he hasn’t signed one yet.
My guess is they are negotiating, but clearly haven't reached any agreement...
“There have also been rumblings of Sensabaugh getting a long-term deal in Dallas, so it may be tough to come up with an offer sheet that the Cowboys won’t match.”
who really care!!!!
who really care what we get for him as long as its sumthn decent!!!!! Dont get me wrong i want value & i would not trade him 4 free…..but u hav to u have understand we did not draft this guy we only borrow this guy service for one year.. and under any other season he would ben a free agent …the guy is trade no Ed Reed so if jj feel he can get value for him and upgrade the SS postion n the draft then let it b.
by lostar2009 on Mar 7, 2010 10:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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by squidlo97 on Mar 7, 2010 2:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
wow
we should have been all over Rhodes. I would take him in 2milliseconds.
"Clearly, I've been wrong. VY is awesome." - AJM
Right there with you brotha
I don’t even know what we would do in that position. 2nd round pick does not bring, possibly, the missing piece to our defense
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
cant agree...
Chad Jones, SS from LSU, I watched him last season…I think, he can be better player then sensaboom….but there is the problem, he is going out of the board in the middle of the second round….but for me it is not the problem trade up for 5th round pick
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
This is the year to draft a safety
Chad Jones would be worth a move down from 27 or up in the second.
More fan interest in the NFL?
Can it really get much bigger? Sure some places have attendance issues, but does the NFL have a growth issue?
Why "want" someone who was benched mid season?
I just hope Sensi doesn’t leave and we get caught with our pants on the ground. Although I have faith that won’t happen..
"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."
being "benched" doesn't mean...
that you just simply suck. There can be a multitude of reasons for being benched, and those are the guys that are usually gotten at a bargain, as was rhodes
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
He sounds like a head case waiting to happen if it hasn't happened already.
We already went through that. Not interested in it again.
"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."
I agree with you...
I’m just wondering if a change of scenery would change his perspective on being a head case, & i feel like a 4th rounder is worth that chance, but they don’t pay me to make those decisions
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
I guess it's a moot point anyway. He's a Cardinal now.
I’m just leery of a team getting rid of talent at a low price (4th round pick). That’s a signal that something is wrong to me. Thankfully they don’t pay me to make those decisions either (although I’m sure it’s good money)!
"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."
He played well down the stretch.
I think he’s a bargain in the sense that you don’t get too many known quantity starters for 4th round picks, but I don’t think the Jets just gave him away.
Rex Ryan, defensive mastermind, thought he was expendable for a 4th round pick, which means that they probably dangled him out for more to other teams and no one bit.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Mar 6, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
Raf
Why do you think they are not going after Atogwe, since there is no compensation?
I haven’t seen you comment on him, why isn’t anyone going after him for that matter?
by TONYINCC on Mar 6, 2010 11:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
check that
seahawks,bears,dolphins, steelers,and texans are interested in him.
by TONYINCC on Mar 7, 2010 12:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tex is still waiting...
For the Jamal Williams signing
by Montecito Tex on Mar 7, 2010 12:25 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't get why everyone has a hard-on for this guy
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
Tex is still waiting...
For alot that will never happen
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Mar 7, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
Drew will just look em in the eye
instantly raise the entire team – he wouldn’t pull any of that Romolicious crap.
for onnce we agree
I’d like to see this happen, if he can pass a physical.
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I suppose this is good news that many teams are filling their safety needs in FA
We can cross off both the Giants and Cardinals as teams looking to fill the need early in the draft. Yes, the Jets now have an opening, but there pick is further behind ours. You cannot rule out them trading ahead of us, which they like to do on draft day. The teams that we should still look out for are Pittsburgh, San Fran., Houston, Philly, Kansas City as needed safeties in the offseason. The Cowboys will be seeking more of a coverage safety, where other teams may need a safety who can be effective in the box. The odds of a safety still being there at pick # 59 have improved, but still unlikely!
It sounds as though...
you have delegated our first rounder to another position. May I ask who you see us taking?
"I'm hurt dog, don't ask me if I'm alright. Hell na man. Juaqin said Dominate & we not doin' it. I'm puttin' my Heart into this #### dog. LET"S GO MAN!"
-The Ed Reed
true
you forgot browns, dolphins too…but between dallas and earl thomas is still too many teams….Pittsburgh will not sign Clark, and as we know about steelers….defense first….so thomas is going to the heinz field…
and, Houston is looking for coverage safety, they have solid box safety in Pollard, Steelers too…they are having polamalu…
about 49ers I have no idea, I just hope Singletary will take Mays….Eagles, the box safety true….kansas should take OT….
but still unlikely thomas will be there at pick 27 ….move up jerry! …we havent so many holes, we need upgrade desperately safeties and OL….thats all ….send somenone even 3rd round pick….I want someone with ball hawk skills finally….
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Can't wait for this years' first 3-team player trade.
There’s gotta be one coming up.
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Forget Safety
The lower-than-expected tenders to three restricted free agents (offensive tackle Jared Gaither ) seem like the Ravens are enticing teams to make them offers for these players.
This is where Cowboy attention needs to be focused
What would it take to get Gaither?
Would the Ravens settle for the Boys late 10 and hopefully later 11 second round picks? That’s a small price to lock up a starting OT.
The Ravens may well get a 1st for Gaither
Look, the supply of young OTs is slim. Why do you think Dallas put a 2nd on Pat McQuistan? He would probably draw interest as a RT if cut free.
Also look at what the last young, good LT who hit the market brought:
Buffalo got a 1st and a 4th for Jason Peters.
IF Gather is dealt, I doubt the Ravens get anything less than a 1st or a 2nd and another decent pick, like a 4th.
This yrs 2nd and next yrs 3rd
I’d be more than ok with that for Gaither. Might not be enough for the Ravens, but wouldn’t hurt to gauge their interest.
MacQ was only tendered a 7th
your confusing him with All Pro All World C Cory Proctor the Man of Steel…or is it the Man of Skins?
Right,
but this backs up what I’ve been saying about Proctor, and why I had Cs very high in my first two mocks.
Nobody really likes him but you dont’ cut a player, even a backup, unless you have somebody on board to replace him.
Say Dallas cuts him and they miss on the top Cs next month. Then they’re entering the season without a backup for Gurode.
That’s scarier than Cory Proctor.
peters went for a first and a fourth
Gaither won’t go for less than that and it’ll prob be a 1st and a second. No way a 23 year old left tackle with skills goes for less.
by alanTdot. on Mar 7, 2010 11:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
the tender is 1st rounder only..
So if they didn’t match, he would go for a 1st.
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they are using that tender to gauge interest
Like Raf says, its a starting point for negotiations. No way they let him go for just a first – although they got him for a 4th or 5th in the Supp draft a few years ago so mabye they think they are that much ahead of the game.
by alanTdot. on Mar 7, 2010 6:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I really like the idea of Gaither on this team.
I really think Gaither and Free would be a very good combination at tackle for a long time. And I really don’t care how they could go about acquiring Gaither, whether that was just a simple matter of signing him to an offer sheet and the Ravens not matching or if they work out some kind of sign and trade. I could honestly see it as a worthwhile expenditure of draft picks. Plus, we could say goodbye to Adams’ old, broken ass.
Normally I have my doubts about the team actually going through with anything like this, but this seems like the year that something like this is possible. And that first round tender on Gaither seems like it is practically begging teams to display interest in him. If the Ravens really wanted to keep him, he’d be tendered to a first and a third. I cannot think of another time my desires for the team to go after a particular player seemed so reasonable. Still won’t happen though (best not to get any kinds of hopes up on that front).
Are the Ravens trying to sign Gaither long term?
Seems to me if they aren’t it’s not a good sign. If they’re willing to let a 23 year old LT walk, maybe he’s not that good.
If they are or have been in talks, disregard this.
The Ravens wont let Gaither go...not happening
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