The Cowboys Future: Replacing Flozell Adams and Ken Hamlin
by Dave Halprin on Apr 2, 2010 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintJerry Jones, Wade Phillips and the rest of the crew out at Valley Ranch made a couple of bold moves today. Rumors had made the rounds about both players, Flozell Adams and Ken Hamlin, but the timing of the announcement is somewhat stunning.
Football offseason strategy would dictate you make these moves after the draft as not to tip your hand on needs, and to make sure you find replacements in the draft. On the first count, this is most likely Jerry allowing Ken Hamlin and Flozell Adams ample time to catch on with new teams before those teams fill needs through the draft. Many things are said about Jerry Jones, but one thing is definitely true, he really does care about his players and forms emotional bonds with them. This was probably Jerry's way of saying I respect you, and your service to the organization, I'm not going to jerk you around. Without a doubt, Hamlin will find a taker relatively quickly. His age and production warrant a shot on another team. Adams' situation is a little more tricky because he's been in decline, and his age for a LT could be a hindrance. But he'll end up signing somewhere. As to the second count of doing this after the draft to make sure you filled your needs, I expect it's a case of the Cowboys already thinking they have replacements.
Make the jump...
At pick #27, it's doubtful the Cowboys would be relying on getting a sure-starter left tackle in the draft. It's unlikely that someone of that kind of quality falls to them. The only other strategy in the draft would be to trade up towards the top of the first round. Don't believe the hype when people say the Cowboys now have to draft a LT in the first-round. The Cowboys almost assuredly believe that Doug Free is their starting LT of the future. Free played well in place of Marc Colombo for a stretch of 2009. Dallas has been grooming him for years now, this is the year they find out for real. None of that precludes Dallas from grabbing a LT in the draft, but they're not forced to do it right away. They have their starter, so backup LT is just another position of need.
The safety situation is not quite as clear-cut, but probably runs along similar lines. Dallas must believe that Alan Ball or Mike Hamlin is going to be their guy, that one of those two guys can be an adequate starter. But, they have more options at finding another safety than they would looking for a LT. There are RFA's they could go after, they could work a trade, or they could get one in the draft. Safeties are a much more available commodity on the market than tackles. Also, the draft is full of safeties that could go in the late-first round or second round with the real potential to step in and start. The Cowboys have options here.
Hamlin's dismissal is a combination of money and production. Hamlin was serviceable, but the money wasn't matching the value of the player. Adams' dismissal was fear of a broken down LT. He's getting old, he was obviously slowing down, it was time to see if Doug Free is the player they think he is.
This does alter the Cowboys draft strategy. Obviously these positions are moved up the board in terms of need. It also would put pressure on finding another corner if Ball is going to be required to concentrate solely on safety. (Reference Raf here). But, it doesn't mean the Cowboys have to reach or make a bad trade just to get someone. They have options on the team at safety and left tackle.
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Props to Jerry...
Flo in particular was owed that kind of decency.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
I am happy for the moves
But I will miss Flozell. I hope he can flourish with his new team. He was a great player for our boys.
I won't miss his 3 false starts every game
by DallasFanSince1983 on Apr 2, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a few I think...
I got grief of some for saying Free played great and should start. I also said I thought Flow would get released. The timing was too good to ignore. The move had to be made.
They’re probably not finished with the Oline either. If they land a top interior prospect Kosier might not make it out of camp.
I'm not down on Kosier,
I’ve defended him many times over the last few years. He’s a solid player. But he’s in the last year of his contract and he’s 31 years old. To me he’s the next logical step in the needed refreshing of the Oline.
I don't think so...
he just got extended not too long ago.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Colombo is signed through 2012 at reasonable prices.
I don’t think he’ll make it that far but he’s probably here for this and possibly next depending on the Rooster.
What does poultry have to do with it?
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
LOL
I thought you had mistyped roster
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
by APerfectStar on Apr 2, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That's it
Kosier is a very solid player, few mistakes, smart play. But he can and does get overwhelmed by serious power rushers. Like the Vikes.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I think he loses ballast as the season wears on
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Noooo! Not Kosier!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
cough Terry cough
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought there was no way
we would suit up Hamlin and Sensi as our safeties, I could be wrong if Mike does well
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 2, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How about
moving Sensei to FS and put Mhamlin at SS, I thing Sensei is more of a FS anyways. (better coverage skills)
Mike Hamlin in coverage
against an elite TE is not a good idea, same as Scandrick going against Midget’s Steve Smith…
actually Mike hamlin is good in coverage
just not deep coverage. He doesn’t have the speed
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that means that he is a strong safety playinig in the box, rather than a free safety playing deep.
I do have my fingers crossed on Mike, as I’m a Clemson fan, but I’m not hyping him as the next Darren Woodson or anything. Now I have to admit I have dreams about CJ Spiller wearing a star, and hopes that Jacoby Ford will but I do like our speed back Felix and I want Jacoby first and foremost as a KR/PR, and later as a speed WR. Spiller would of course also be a killer KR/PR, but…anyway.
On the depth chart, he backs up both positions.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree. I could of seen oakland trading for Flozel
meaning, it would of been more likely if Flo had been on the roster
by AustonianAggie on Apr 2, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
look back like 5 main posts to one by Raf-
word is Oakland will drop from the 8 spot to “who knows where” w/ someteam near the bottom of Round 1
by AustonianAggie on Apr 2, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow that would take a lot to move up that far though...
And plus, is Thomas worth the #8 pick? Berry will be long gone by then.
That's a lot to give up for that slot
2 1st’s and a 2nd for Earl Thomas? I just don’t know….IF that’s who we’re targetting.
Now if Berry drops…..mmmm
Berry is a good player
but not worth trading a second this year and a first next. And this is coming from a Vol fan.
So I guess when Terry said the OLine was set for next year...
….he was wrong? Go figure.
It happens.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamlin's release is catching me off guard
I am not surprised Flo was released – its been discussed all offseason, and even though he may’ve had one good year left, maybe two, the best teams know when to cut these players. I think we did it at the right time.
Hamlin? I’m not sure about this one. I think Hamlin was pretty underrated, he provided a centerfield cover safety that we haven’t had in forever – is Ball ready? If not, the aggressiveness of Wade Phillips playcalling could lead to more big plays this year.
But all that said, we were paying him a TON of money.
The "false start Flozelle" era is now over.......
Thank Goodness! No more false starts at the worst possible times. No more struggling with speedy pass rushers and Romo getting killed because of it.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Yeah, because Free and old reliable Pat McQuistan will NEVER have a penalty!
Be careful what you wish for.
I’m good with getting younger and giving guys a chance to play, but Tony Romo is more nervous than you are.
And, Drew needs to go in the Ring soon!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying they won't. Just that Flozelle's habit of raking in false starts was unacceptable.
And DAMN RIGHT “MR CLUTCH” should be in the RIng. It’s an absolute crime that he has not been included for all of these years.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
I agree...
..about us now being much less likely to have drive-killing pre-snap penalties at the very worst time. I remember one of this blog’s very talented writers putting up a stat-laden post about our likelihood of scoring or even converting on drives with sacks and/or penalties (albeit including holding). While I knew it of course to be debilitating, the numbers were a slap in the face in proving just how crushing they were. Flo just always seemed to set us back when momentum was building, or when we really needed momentum to build.
Jerry has said before his theory in being bold on these types of moves. Gotta project and stay ahead of the game, because once declining players prove they are a liability, that assurance has undoubtedly come at a cost. We can’t have that for the Gentleman who protects our Top-4 QB.
Now if Witten gets his act back together before the snap, we’re looking great! God forgive me, for I already regret saying anything other than praise about Witten.
yeah, i got killed for suggesting
that Witten had a down year based on penalties, drops and red zone plays.
as if it meant i didn’t appreciate all that he’s done for us over the years.
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Also,
best wishes to Flo. He was an integral part of this team the last 5 years. Sure he had problems with false starts, but he did what few other players in this league can do – reliably protect his qb’s blind side. Good luck in the future, as long as its with an AFC team, of course.
him, Daryl Johnson and Darren Woodson were the best 2nd Round picks of the Nineties
y’all agree?
Also Jimmy Smith
by AustonianAggie on Apr 2, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yea I know
but the last 6 or so are the memorable ones lol. And he really came on once Parcells got here. One of his biggest achievements imo was getting Flo’s head on straight.
I think Dallas needs to hope Bruce Campbell falls to them now.
He is a tackle prospect, but I think he could easily move inside to guard and be very effective (especially since his strength was run blocking).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
That type of versatility would inject youth into our offensive line
and give us another guy to develop either behind Colombo or perhaps behind Kosier.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
thats another point
I now find it hard to believe we release kosier. We could of course replace him with a starter in the draft, but I think hes pretty much guaranteed a spot on the roster given our current backups.
Kosier will make a great backup, IMO
At one point in his pre-Dallas career he even played RT.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
At 27
We have two ‘workout warriors’ that have a good shot at being there
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by accidental innuendo on Apr 2, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
With the release of Flozelle, it SHOULD be the start of putting together an elite OL for Romo and our RB's.
With an elite OL,, think of the time that gives Romo to find an open Austin down the field, not to mention holes that can be open for FJ, TC and the “Barbarian”.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
I don't think we should jump too far ahead
Elite OLs also take time to gel
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by accidental innuendo on Apr 2, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
of course. I said it should be the "start" of putting a great OL together. Sure it will take time but once they gel, it should be exciting.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
and IMHO
they should be gelling around Halloween
by AustonianAggie on Apr 2, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
its not that simple
there are so many things that go into an elite ol – and right now, there isn’t an ol in the league that is both great at pass blocking and run blocking. I guess the saint’s may be the closest.
The Giants ol was great in 2008, but last year their run blocking really fell off, its such a hard mindset to be maintained in this pass happy league.
Finally, finding an ELITE LT is not going to be easy. And its probably the most crucial part in an “elite” ol.
lol....I never said it would be simple. Of course it's extremely difficult. But, with some SMART drafting and making SMART moves in Free Agency, as well as developing what you have, that wil go a long way.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Smart is picking those players that WILL help you in the long run at those critical postitions that help win games
Smart is also NOT giving up HUGE sums of money to someone whom is known to not have a great work ethic. It’s simply stupid to keep someone on the roster knowing they aren’t being productive and telling the media, “I believe in ______.” That’s the sign of someone who is more about control than winning. Winning is what its all about. I quote the head man from 1989, “We will win. The is no substitute for winning”. I’m paraphrasing but that in a nutshell is what he said.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Oh right so u mean someone like Randy Moss then
Or Michael Irvin come to think of it….just because a player`s regarded as not having a great work ethic doesn`t mean they`ll be a bust
I thought...
…Mike Irvin was said to be all-out fired up and dedicated on the field. I was a bit young at the time but I don’t remember much negativity regarding his ‘on-field’ commitment.
That's what I always heard.
Was hoping I read voidhelix’s post wrong.
Careful now, for if the designation ‘Untouchable’ ever applies…..
He was certainly "untouchable" for his on-field abilities.
I won’t defend his off-field issues, though.
You`re being Naive Dave
Although I would agree that Jerry brings an emotional attachment to his ownership I think believing that this was motivated my loyalty is wide of the mark. IMO this is a classic Jerry pre draft move. He loves getting into the minds of journalists and fellow NFL owners come draft time and doing this will definately focus teams in slots immediately before us in a certain direction. That or it could allow us to make that big move that we all expected but never materialized
Honestly I do think some loyalty came in to play...
…in the timing of these cuts. However, I don’t for a second think that Jerry didn’t also purposely pick a would-be slow NFL day (thanks Eagles) for big moves with the sole purpose of hogging one section of the sports news landscape. He may not admit as much regarding this specific event, but he has and will gladly confirm that theory of his.
why would these moves affect the teams in the slots immediately before us?
also… cap space, roster spots are not a problem.. not sure how you see this being a move that affects either of those.
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Also...
…trying to think just a bit outside the box but, we also ought to be very grateful for Flo’s undoubted role in challenging D-Ware to greatness. Surely, D-Ware will now take his turn in grooming and humbling Doug Free.
Such a beautiful circle. I’m pumped!
So long, Hamlin
Go steal someone else’s money.
by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 2, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Man I go mow the yard and come back and this happens?
So long Flo and thanks for the protection. You had more pluses then minuses in my book.
"The greatest test of courage on earth is to bear defeat without losing heart."
With Sheldon Brown's trade
I see them as a lock to draft a corner on the 1st now.
by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 2, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions
right, Hobbs is bust and i dont see other CB no. 2 on their roster
but still, they could draft CB in second round too…so 1st round still could be safety
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
The philly fans are a little touchy about the trade.
I told them I loved the trade and keep up the good work. Can you believe they told me to get f—-ed and wondered how long I could ride the high of one playoff victory. But they didn’t call me a bandwagon fan. YET!!
The draft can not get here soon enough.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
what a good news....
I just still cant believe what is jerry now doing…in last preseason, he released RW, Greg Ellis, Owens, transfered Henry….everything was good decisions…
and now he cut ties with Flo and Ken….thanks jerry…I know, that was clear that flo and ken will be realeased, but who knows what is JJ capable of….
IMHO, really good decision….now pls, dont sleep on the draft days :-)
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*offseason
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This just in...
This is not a joke… I work at a certain network that covers a certain sport that rhymes with “schmootball”…. one of our analysts just got off of the phone with the Cowboys and was told that Dallas intends to move Leonard Davis to left tackle… this is not some lame, belated April Fools attempt… this is completely real… those are their plans as of right now, pending the draft…
Hmm...
that’s curious. Hope Jerry buys him a Heavy Duty Dance Dance Universe machine to gear up.
pending the draft
is the most important statement there. Its no real news that the front office feels Davis can play LT. I’m sure they also will give Free a shot to win the position as well. Dallas will also target several T prospects in this year’s draft. Or if the board falls a certain way they may find themselves taking a guard and then moving Davis to Tackle. I’m sure Dallas has several contingency plans now that Flozell has been released.
That would be a big mistake
Arizona already tried making him a T and he failed at it. Now, years later he’s suddenly going to be good at it? No, best to keep him right where he’s at. He is still a very good run blocking G
by DallasFanSince1983 on Apr 2, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Might not be a terrible course of action.
Slide Columbo inside and put Free at RT, with Davis going to LT. It could work. Not really the way I want to do it though.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Still not showing our hand
I keep hearing how we have shown our hand in the draft by this. I see it the other way as now we set even more questions around. We still can draft anyone because there wasn’t really a difference when Ball was in for Hamlin, and Flo’s false starts I think did more harm than his protection did good. He was a drive killer and aging in ability. I can see us taking Nate Allen from USF. If he turns out anything like his former teammate Mike Jenkins did for us, we will have a beast of a secondary I think. Free was impressive and we can still get another LT prospect to groom as well in the first round or two. Either way, I can’t wait for the draft. Also I’m just happy to see some life out of Dallas for the first time this off-season.
Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!
Whoa!
Off topic, but the Skins just signed Fast Willie Parker!
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He'll have a harder time running against us...
…than he did against the Texans. :)
lol
aHEEheHEEHE
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And all of his 3. whatever yards per carry.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a hunch
But I bet that Flozell Adams might get consideration from the Skins and Hamlin get consideration from the Eagles. Division rivals tend to leach players from division teams. Giants taking Canty for one example of many. Us nabbing T.O. from the Eagles. I could go on and on. I also bet the Eagles will go after Antonio Pierce if no one has picked him up yet.
Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!
Replacing Ken Hamlin will be easy
This move is the epitome of “addition by subtraction.” As long as whoever starts at FS next year doesn’t run a 40 yard dash to the LOS on EVERY play-action fake, and has decent tackling fundamentals, he will instantly be 100x better than Ken Hamlin. Today is a great day.
We are definitely players for OJ Atogwe now. I wouldn’t mind a draft day deal that involves our 3rd rounder for him if he could pass a physical and if our 1st round safeties are gone.
Atogwe is a RFA with the right of first refusal.
No draft pick compensation is necessary to obtain him, all a team needs to do is outbid the Rams. Teams are holding off on him because he becomes a UFA on June 1st and they believe St. Louis is trying to gauge the market on him by doing this. Teams are trying to basically force St. Louis into making an offer, which they don’t want to do.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Grizz, let me add a 3rd, "grassy knoll" to the timing of today's moves . . .
Pure speculation, but Stephen Jones is on the Competition Committee and Jerry is normally “in-the-know” on league matters — what if there has been more progress in the CBA negotiations than we’ve been led to believe? I found this from Florio:
If there’s the potential of a new (lower) rookie salary cap for 2010 as part of the deal, cutting these two now would have no salary cap implications. You have to believe that any deal with the NFLPA would not allow veteran cuts for cheaper rookie compensation and have no impact on the team from a salary cap perspective.
As I said, pure speculation — but Flozelle was not due his $2.5MM roster bonus until June, so . . .
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
But now who will teach the fine art of offensive holding without Flozell ?
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Loyalty is all well and good
I’m worried that this is a continuation of a recurring theme where we let veteran players go without getting any trade value for them. Last year it was Owens, Williams, Ellis, Thomas, Davis, Pacman. This year so far it’s Hamlin and Flo.
The Eagles on the other hand do really well at letting go of ‘veteran’ players shortly before their performance significantly declines – feasting off the free-agent mistakes other teams make in overvaluing the Eagles’ players. Cases in point: the Lito Sheppard trade (27 yrs, ‘09 5th rounder & ’10 conditional pick), the Greg Lewis trade (28, ’09 5th rounder) and letting the declining veterans Brian Dawkins (35) and Jevon Kearse (31) go instead of paying them outrages money. This year it’s Brown and Gocong for a 4th and 5th + Alex Hall and possibly McNabb to follow.
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 2, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
Jerry gives out big contracts for one or two years of service.
Barber and Hamlin for instance, this paints him into a corner. He either has to keep them or cut them. Flo, TO, Pacman, Ellis, ect. had no trade value IMO. Philly is trading players that still have gas in the tank (trade value). I think philly is retooling, Dallas is making a run for the SB. Letting Flo go is a mistake IMO unless Jerry knows something we don’t know.
Heh...
…I don’t think it’d be too much of a stretch to say Jerry knows something we don’t.
Maybe all Jerry knows
Is that Free can handle the job. Then we don’t need to find a starter in the draft, just some depth.
:)
Hope he does too. Either he does or he’s just one helluva deceptive showman…
…wait a minute….he is a helluva deceptive showman.
Shit! God help us!
Wait a minute...
The Eagles got Alex Hall outta that deal? Damn!
He’s a pretty good player. What’re the stupid Browns thinking?
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
My shot at it...
“We sucked this year, so why not next year… and the one after. If the Browns stand for ANYTHING it’s consistency!!”
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
At least give the fans some cheerleaders.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
or Drew Carey
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 3, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My internet provider
blocked any real Cleveland cheerleader pics, so I had to settle for a close approximation…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I think the contracts of all players involved really affect Jerry's ability to trade them.
Hopefully he learns from his contract mistakes.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Yes
I’m sure Jerry explored the trade market before just cutting them, but those overpaid contracts makes it hard to get anything for these older guys.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Lots of good OT's in this draft class
One of these could fall to 27 if the Cowboys want an OT :
Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
OT 1 Russell Okung SR 6-5/300/- Oklahoma State Richmond, TX
OT 2 Trent Williams SR 6-5/290/- Oklahoma Longview, TX
OT 3 Bryan Bulaga JR 6-6/290/- Iowa Woodstock, IL
OT 4 Bruce Campbell JR 6-7/310/- Maryland Hamden, CT
OT 5 Anthony Davis JR 6-6/325/- Rutgers Piscataway, NJ
OT 6 Rodger Saffold SR 6-5/306/- Indiana Bedford, OH
OT 7 Charles Brown SR 6-6/295/- USC Pomona, CA
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Davis, Okung, Williams, and Bulaga won't be there.
The other 3 might.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I like Anthony Davis
but I don’t think he’d fall to 27…we’d likely have to move up to get him.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I like him too, if they decide to go the draft route for OT he’s the guy that is most interesting to me. His stock is kinda everywhere right now though. I think we would have to trade up for sure, but how far is the question.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Among safeties one of these these may be there at 27
Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
S 1 Eric Berry JR 5-11/195/- Tennessee Fairburn, GA
S 2 Taylor Mays SR 6-3/231/- USC Seattle, WA
S 3 Earl Thomas SO 5-10/190/- Texas Orange, TX
S 4 Nate Allen SR 6-1/205/- South Florida Cape Coral, FL
Cowboys are likely to may a shot at either a 5 star safety or a 5 star OT at 27 if they decide to draft one of those positions
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
only 2 of those are likely to be there at 27
and it aint berry or thomas
Let the chips fall where they may
Doug Free better be what they expect at LT for Romo's sake....
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
The thought of having Free at LT full time
kindda scares me a lot.
by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 2, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Not me. I'm way more comfy with him there than Flo.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on what?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I want film of this game so bad.
You’re wrong. Jared Allen kicked his ass.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
No Ray Edwards kicked Marc Colombo's butt.
Free came into the game against the premier RE in the NFL, on Allen’s home turf, at a position Free had not played one down at in the pro’s when his team was already behind allowing Allen to just tee-off every play and Free kept him without a sack the entire second half. When you consider the situation that Free was put in he did a very good job.
I don't disagree with that.
My point is that I’m not convinced he is the answer to take over for Flozell at LT. Flozell has been a premier LT in the league for most of his time in Dallas. Free wasn’t horrendous in that game, no. But he wasn’t great either, and all I’m saying is it’s possible there are better options available. That’s it.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
The thing is
that Free’s performance was shadowed by Colombo’s horrible day. He could have had a mediocre day and no one will know. I can’t remember him on that game because I was startled by how awful Colombo was.
Allen could still be getting to Romo, but Edwards would always there first.
by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 2, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, and that's all anybody remembers is Columbo.
That’s why it’s so frustrating. Nobody even remembers the left side of the line. The problems were across the board on the O-line that day.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I've seen you make this comment many times
I don’t remember Allen getting the best of Free. I know the entire line started coming undone towards the end of the game, but you have to look at the conditions they were playing in. A playoff game, on the road, against one of the best defensive lines in the NFL, and playing from behind so the pass rushers were had there ears pinned back. Free held his own against one of the best.
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He could have done worse.
But that’s not what I want to hear about my potential franchise LT. I want to know that he can stand in there and take care of business against the top pass rushes, and not just hold his own. We’re talking about a former perennial Pro Bowler in Adams. Those are some big shoes to fill and I’m just not convinced Free is the guy to wear them.
I don’t really see what’s so hard to grasp about this. I’m not the only person who saw the game this way.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Ok...
One….Mike Florio isn’t exactly a respected analyst.
Two…. Derek Eatman didn’t say anything anyone else hasn’t thought. He didn’t say Free was horrible but that Dallas was definitly taking a leap of faith.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
That's all I'm saying too.
That I’m not convinced Free is the guy. No more, no less. I like the guy for the record, and think he could take over for Columbo right now and probably be an upgrade. I’m not sold on the idea of him taking Flo’s spot though.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
No no no...
you have said coutless times Free got beat up in the Minnesota game.
I’m not sold until the guy gets in and does it, but he didn’t get demolished by Allen.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
More people that think he was overmatched.
And some video.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
He got beat on some plays...
and I won’t deny that, but he wasn’t beat on every play.
You can keep arguing this man, I don’t care. Just drop it already.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I tried to the other day.
And I never said he got beat on every play (if I did I was exaggerating), just that he was outmatched.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I've re-wached the game several times
He was probably the second best lineman that day. Free is going to be more than fine. And simply using logic, the people who know Flo and Free best, the ones who see them daily in practice oand on coaches tape, whose jobs are riding on Romo succeediing… they think it’s a good move too. But they have hedge their bets by indicating that if Free isn’t up to the task, they’ll move Davis.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
That's another thing too.
I know there are a lot of people that want to give Free his chance, but are we sure that’s what the Cowboys plan is? I know Jerry said “Free is more left tacklish than right tacklish” or whatever line of BS he threw out there, but anybody who knows anything about Jerry knows that you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. What’s to say that isn’t just smoke and mirrors and they really have something else up their sleeve?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Why is it BS to say Doug Free is a LT?
You just keep asserting he’s not a LT but haven’t given any real reasons. He was a very good LT in college. His strengths have always been regarded as his outstanding athletic ability and quick feet. Traits that a left Tackle needs.
Look at his scouting report and compare it to the other Tackles this year;
"Has a thick upper body with wide hips and thighs, with room to add at least another 15-20 pounds with no loss in his impressive quickness … Very agile for a player his size and possesses very good lower body weight room numbers (565-pound squat, 350-pound power clean) … Shows good flexibility on the move and demonstrates good knee bend in his kick slide … Hard worker in practices and the training room who will do the little extras to improve … Well-liked by the team and staff, taking pride in his leadership role … Has a good understanding of blocking schemes and is alert to twists and games … Slides out with good quickness and arms extending to defeat the edge rush … Does a nice job adjusting to action working in space, coming off the ball with good urgency … Hardly ever in a position of disadvantage and uses his long arms to reach and seal … Can set quickly in the short area and has the feet to mirror moves in one-on-one situations … has the quickness and movement skills to fire off the snap on pulls and traps … Pulls with good speed and can locate and land in space … Does an excellent job of seeking out the linebackers and gets down field in a hurry, taking good angles to neutralize … Has good leg drive and anchor to hold off the pass rusher and even when he over-sets, he recovers quickly"
Any one who had there eyes open when they watched him play last year could see how accurate that scouting report was.
His negatives were listed as lack of upper body strength which led to being a better pass blocker than run blocker and being susceptible to the bull-rush. An injury his senior year hurt his stock and coupled with the fact he needed a few years of NFL weight training to be ready to start is what made the 2nd and 3rd round graded Free fall to us in the 4th. We got really lucky.
Free may have some down moments against the premier pass rushers as he settles in but he’s going to be a very good LT for several years once he’s acclimated.
Again.
All that is good and fine, and for the most part I agree. He looked great when he played RT. But when he played LT against one of the premiere pass rushers in the league, something he will have to do consistently as a LT, I was unimpressed. Maybe he does grow into it, I could certainly see that happening. Problem is, the Super Bowl is in Arlington this year, and I think everybody’s goal is to try to get there. Turning to an unproven LT to help get you there just doesn’t sound like a good idea to me.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Fair enough mate,
And you’re right it certainly has an element of risk to it.
But I think Flozell got Romo sacked, hit and hurried enough last year that rolling with him again at 35+ is a big risk too.
Also, check the last two previous playoff loses (Giants, Seattle), Flozell played poorly both times. The year we missed the playoffs (08) he had a poor year. He was as much of a hindrance to our Superbowl aspirations as he was a help.
Doug Free is a different type of risk but I don’t see it as any bigger than what Flow brought.
Right
every change in starters carries risk – Romo, Austin, Brooking, all of those guys assuming starting roles entailed risk. But it’s a necessary part of the game. And I trust the c oaches who have the football knowledge, constact with the player and hours of self-scouting to be able to assess that risk better than we can. They’ll make mistakes too, but fewer than we would.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
How did Brooking entail risk?
He was a perennial pro bowler.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
He was considered washed up
by several teams, including his old one. Dallas had no one else even remotely ready if Brooking were not ready to play at a high level. Perennial Pro-Bowler doesn’t mean a lot when you age past your prime. TO was one – do you want him as your number one today?
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
T.O. still has a lot left in the tank man.
Don’t judge him by what he did in Buffalo, that team is terrible. He has no QB to throw to him, and no O-line protecting that crappy QB. Put him on a good team and he still produces. From a pure on field production standpoint, Hell yes I would take him. Maybe not as the number one but definitely over Roy.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
The Vikings Game Exposed
Dallas’ lack of depth but in no way should this game be used to judge Free or Colombo.
I listen to the Lunch Break on DC.com and Eatman, Derek have been consistant with that I agree...
I think they know there is a big gamble by this move. They know Free can play RT, but there is questions whether or not he can make it as a LT. Kinda like letting Ellis go and giving Spencer the nod. As we can see the risk was worth it, but in this case there is alot more at stake IMO. Hopefully, this gamble pays off for Romo’s sake.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
I look at it this way...
they were definitely going to have to do this for the 2011 season, and maybe for the 2010 season anyway. But after paying Flo $6mil.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Jared Allen did not come near to kicking his ass.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Many people disagree with that.
Didn’t realize this was such a divisive issue amongst Cowboys fans.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
It's now reached urban legend status, Aaron
you know, that point at which no amount of reasoning or evidence will disuade people.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
... but it's nowhere near the Roy Williams downfield blocking meme.
The funny thing about that?
ProFootballFocus.com actuall ranks Patrick Crayton as the 9th best run-blocking WR in the league! RW is 96th out of 107 WRs.
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 3, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I'll trust Flozell to run a 4.2 forty on two broken legs before I'm ready to buy into anything that ProFootballFocus says.
But that’s a general principle thing more than a disagreement with this particular assessment.
It's funny because
it’s actually a back-handed slap at RW – that the only thing you can praise him for is blocking when he was brought in to be a number one.
The RW meme is meant to be pure hilarity, where the Free thing is self-induced hand wringing.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 3, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
except the Hookman is real.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 4, 2010 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions
El Chupacabra?
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 4, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Chupacabra is all over South Texas and probably
parts of Mexico. Donkey Lady is a San Antonio legend all its own. Get to know her, my man.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I love these legends.
I had never heard of the Donkey Lady before. Great story.
Of course, my favorite is the Jersey Devil.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
That's what guards and TEs are for.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Flozell didnt need help with TE's, RB's or Guards....thats the point..
If are LT needs consistant help with TE’s,RB’s..etc., that’s a problem. It limits what we can do on offense. If Free needs help than he is not the answer at LT.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
My thoughts exactly on the subject.
That’s pretty much what I’ve been trying to say.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Every single analysis of our Oline I've seen rated Flow poorly in pass protection.
They also have Doug Free rated higher.
That matches what I saw with my own eyes.
Flozell is 35 years old.
Free is 25 years old.
It’s time to move on.
Not really
The ended up sliding help to Colombo and the RB to help Kosier. Those two guys got destroyed, not Free.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Based on Flo's Mistake/Error Rate of One Per Quarter
Add sacks, pressures, and penalties, and you get one per quarter. Flo needed to go. Dallas is better with turning over a new leaf at LT before Romo’s window closes. Nice knowing you Flo but I am happy Dallas had the cajones to make the move.
See This:
http://dallascowboystimes.com/2010/02/grading-the-boys-part-i-offensive-line-pass-protection/
Adams struggled mightily in pass protection all season, giving up nine sacks and, perhaps more importantly, a devastating 42 quarterback pressures. It is certainly difficult to block a team’s best pass-rusher, as Flozell had to do more than anyone on the team. Still, we would expect his numbers to be better than this.
Further (and I don’t want to beat a dead horse so I won’t go into great detail), we all know Adams’ struggles with penalties. He had 13 this year, tied for 5th most in the NFL.
Grading the ‘Boys, Part I: Offensive Line (Pass Protection)
Center Andre Gurode received our highest grade for any lineman.
The Cowboys line is a massive wall of human flesh– one of the largest in the league. The group is composed of five veterans who have great experience playing with one another.
Without looking at any numbers, we know that the ‘Boys line provided some of the biggest running lanes in the NFL. Their size and power made it rather easy, relatively speaking, to drive opponents of the ball.
From time to time, however, the group struggled in pass protection. You can’t have it all, and overall they are an above-average line. Still, providing better pass protection for Romo is essential to the Cowboys’ success. In Minnesota during the playoffs, you saw how poor pass protection can affect an entire offense’s rhythm and productivity.
There are some misconceptions about which linemen are the Cowboys’ most dominant. We believe the film doesn’t lie, and the numbers that are garnered from the tape are proof of that. Take a look at the numbers we obtained from our film study listed on the chart below.
42 Pressures; 9 Sacks; 13 penalties
That is 64 bad plays by Flo; 16 games times four quarters . . . well, you do the math.
Based on they've been developing him and when he got his chance he made the best of it.
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by Aaron Novinger on Apr 2, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not enough of a reason.
At least not in my mind. If I’m handing him the starting LT job, which is one of the most important positions on the field, I want to be 100% sure he is ready for it, regardless of the opponent or the situation. I just don’t think he’s shown that yet. Others do though, based on what he did at RT (a completely different position) and I just don’t get it. He wasn’t that impressive against Minnesota, certainly not impressive enough to hand him the starting job. I sincerely hope they have another plan.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
How do you get 100% sure without letting him on the field?
He played about 9 games last year and played very well most times. Dallas obviously thinks he can continue to improve with more experience and has the athletic ability for LT. You’re seem to be focusing on one half of football where Free was put in a really difficult situation and ignoring the rest.
If you don’t think Free should start because of his performance against Minnesota than surely you don’t want Marc Colombo to play either because he was ten times worse than Free that day. While we’re at it let’s cut Kosier and Davis as well because they certainly didn’t play any better than Free and had many advantages he didn’t like playing the same position they’d played all year and having a full week of practice to prepare for their opponent.
I never said we should cut anybody.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I know,
What I’m saying is if you don’t think Doug Free should start because of one half against Minnesota then to be consistent with that logic you’d have to not want Colombo, Kosier and Davis to play either because their Minnesota performances were worse than Free’s despite having many advantages Doug did not.
If you think that any of those other guys should start then please explain why you’re holding Doug Free to a different standard then everyone else.
I'm really not.
I’ve consistently said the O-line needs to be upgraded. Personally I would like to see Free moved to RT, Gaither picked up for LT, Pouncey/Iupati drafted and put at G, and some depth like John Jerry or Brandon Carter picked up later in the draft. I’m not holding Free to any different standard, I just am not convinced he’s the best option for the position. THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING, LOL.
And for the record, most of those guys are Pro Bowl caliber players anyway. They don’t really need to prove anything at their positions that they haven’t already proven. Doug Free, to me, hasn’t proven that he is the franchise LT. You guys’ attempts are futile, you’re not going to convince me. You might as well just give up. I’m not the only person that sees it this way either. Again, I just didn’t realize this was such a divisive issue amongst Cowboys fans.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Pouncy/Iupati for LG.
Hopefully that was obvious.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
No worries...
There is an unknown with Doug Free at LT no doubt.
I like your draft strategy; Iupati or Pouncey drafted early and another prospect mid-late would be great.
The Gaither situation is a strange one; how does a young LT who seems to have played well garner so little attention? Maybe the scouts aren’t as high on him as the media/fans. Without seeing many Ravens games I don’t know.
I like your plan for OL upgrade
And I agree with most of what you’ve said, except for the impressions from the MIN game.
I hope Dallas gets one of the following guys:
Pouncey
Gaither
Iupati
Ducasse
Jerry
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
They didn't hand him anything
It’s like people think Free hasn’t practiced with the team, and played in games. They actually saw his performance and made a very important decision based on what they saw. Like dropping Owens for Miles or benching Bledsoe for Romo, this is what talent evaluation is all about. They actually scout themselves constantly for just this reason.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I don't think we HAVE to draft a LT or S at 27 now
IMO, we should still have the same mind set as before these two were released—-best player available. Free now replaces Flo, and Ball can replace Hamlin. You can always find safetys in the later rds anyways, no sense in burning an early pick on one. I say we take the BPA and draft for depth later.
by DallasFanSince1983 on Apr 2, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
Dropping Hamlin Was a Defensive Move...
to possibly have one of the teams ahead of them fill their S void and focus their top pick on another need. This may allow the ’Boys to have Earl Thomas drop to them.. Who knows? May
Pat McQ is now the only backup tackle
unless anyone laughingly wants to include LDavis
I hope there’s another plan besides the draft.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
I hope it's Gaither.
That’s what I’ve wanted all along. Pick up John Jerry or Brandon Carter later in the draft for help at Guard, and pick up one of the FS in the first/second round or Atogwe. Hopefully this is how the Cowboys see it as well.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Kind of an explosion of activity in the NFC East today.
I’m waiting for the Giants to do something, too.
by Baked Potato Soup on Apr 2, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
They already blew their load on Rolle.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Still a chance we get Taylor Mays?
I remember early speculation pointing him to the ’Boys, but his stock seems to have gone up.
Before you ask why I'm a fan of both the Cowboys and Jets, I'll just say the answer is complicated and that it just turned out that way.
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25 LOVING THE TRADE!
I hope not.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Been hearing mixed things about him
Some say he’s the next Troy Polamalu, others say he’s an inevitable bust.
Before you ask why I'm a fan of both the Cowboys and Jets, I'll just say the answer is complicated and that it just turned out that way.
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I haven't heard or read any comparisons to Polamalu
The rap on him is lack of instincts, total opposite of Troy P
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
I think it's just the whole USC safety thing
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Apr 3, 2010 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he impressed a bunch of people when he was working out
It was something on NFL Yahoo! that mentioned people were comparing him to Polamalu.
Before you ask why I'm a fan of both the Cowboys and Jets, I'll just say the answer is complicated and that it just turned out that way.
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25 LOVING THE TRADE!
I still don't get this idea that rookies don't ever start in the NFL.
It happens all the time, and yet for some reason there are like a few people here that think that it would never happen.
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by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 2, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
especially with QB's
Before you ask why I'm a fan of both the Cowboys and Jets, I'll just say the answer is complicated and that it just turned out that way.
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well in this case....its not going to happen...not at LT and not at safety...
unless your a team like Detorit where the starters are God awful to begin with a rookie on a good team barring injury will not replace an incumbent.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
RW1 started as a rookie
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
they didnt have a choice either and when you spend the #8 pick in the draft that somewhat forces you to also..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Ken Hamlin was the incumbent and he's gone
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
The Cowboys have scheduled visits with top safety prospects
to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''
Doug Free
…wasn’t beat up by Jared Allen. I think people recall the sack and fumble that Allen issued and kinda assume Free got used. It was actually Witten singled up on Allen. Free was quite solid with Allen, and not with a lot of help, which is also a bit of a misconception.
Why Flo is Released
Ken is released because of his play. We can do better. Flo was due a 6 million roster bonus in June and along with his base was due around 11 million. They were going to do it but am surprised its this early. This doesn’t change their board at all. They ‘ve known this for sometime so I’m sure we’ve called Al Davis about what he wants for his pick.
Hi Rafael...
Do you think Flo’s release makes the team more likely to sign a vet (mayne Andrew?) as insurance?
Also was that the complete draft board you posted or a wish list?
Do you think the team would look at Greg Hardy if he falls?
The next good decision will be to let the real problem walk- JASON GARRETT!! The highest paid OC in the league!! Are you kidding me!! This guy couldn’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag!! He had one good year and they figured our offense out!! We were supposed to win that game at the Vikings but there were no adjustments AT ALL!! WE NEED TO RUN THE BALL MORE!! OUR PERSONNEL FITS THE RUN GAME!! BIG OFFENSIVE LINE AND 3 QUALITY BACKS!! IT WILL OPEN UP THE PLAY ACTION PASS AND CONTROL THE CLOCK!! PLEASE GET RID OF JG AND BRING SOMEBODY IN WHO CAN CALL PLAYS!!
LOL!
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