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The NFL Draft by Numbers: Do drafts build championships?

In one of my last posts, I wrote that "starting on Thursday, no less than the future of many a franchise will be decided. The Dallas Cowboys will see an influx of new players with great potential. Some of the names called over the weekend will become key contributors. Hopefully a few will become franchise cornerstones. This is where championship teams are built."

In hindsight, it's pretty obvious that I swallowed the NFL hype hook, line and sinker. Or did I?

If the draft is all it's cranked up to be, then surely there must be a correlation between draft success and winning in the NFL. In the last NFL Draft by Numbers post we saw that we could calculate an expected value for each position in the draft and compute a figure describing the draft success of each team in the NFL. A question left unanswered was whether teams that draft well also have better W/L records.

Are there teams out there that consistently draft well? And is it true that teams that do not draft well consistently struggle? Today we find out.

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In my last post I painstakingly led you through the draft numbers and analysis to establish how to calculate Draft Success. So today we'll skip that whole part and jump straight in.

'Draft Success' basically measures how successful a team was relative to the historic NFL average in getting value from its draft picks, regardless of how many and which picks it had. As such, Draft Success is an indicator of a franchise's ability to evaluate and pick talent. It is not a measure of a team's ability to retain talent, as the accrued value of a player stays with the team that drafted him, even if the player has moved on.

Draft Success and winning in the NFL: the last decade

Av_draft_success_10_years_medium

This graph plots the Draft Success numbers from 1999-2008 against the wins from 2000-2009. Why the difference in years? Firstly, because with a few notable exceptions, the bulk of rookies in the NFL don't see all that much playing time in their first NFL season. So the effect of a good or bad draft class will usually begin to take effect a year later.

The second reason is that it makes more sense statistically. The slight shift by one year moves r² up to 0.54 from 0.41, and that is significant.

BTB member ScarletO put it best when he said "Teams that draft well tend to do so consistently. Teams that do not draft well consistently struggle."

As you look at the graph, ask yourself if it feels right. If it does, then we're on to something, and I think it does. Indy feels right at the top, but the Colts' numbers are remarkable nonetheless. Not only have they outdistanced all other NFL teams in terms of Draft Success, but they've done it despite picking towards the very end of each draft round in eight out of ten years.

While the Patriots and Eagles have a reputation as good drafters, the numbers suggest that they've actually been quite shrewd at bolstering their roster with free agents. 

Dallas sits somewhere smack in the middle, and when you think about the last decade of Cowboys history, that feels about right. The other NFC teams are highlighted in red, the Redskins are notable both for their poor draft success as well as for their inability to emulate either the Patriots or Eagles with a winning free agent strategy.

Little to no surprises at the bottom. Cleveland, Tampa, Oakland and Detroit are the teams almost everybody would have expected there.

There's another interesting dynamic in the graph: Teams that do not draft well (read: that have a negative Draft Success number) appear unable to move past the 8 win barrier in the graph. On the other hand, teams that have drafted fairly well, like the Jets, the Panthers and the Bears, do not get an automatic free pass to 8+ wins.

But perhaps a time frame of 10 years is just too long to look at in the NFL. After all, remember which teams met in the Super Bowl in 2002? The Raiders and the Buccaneers. Sad but true. So let's look at the same chart, except we'll narrow it down to the last five years.

Draft Success and winning in the NFL: the last five years

Av_draft_success_5_years_medium The overall picture here doesn't change too much, but there are some details worth noting.

By virtue of an outstanding draft class in 2005 (see also Raf's post How the Cowboys won the '05 Draft) the Cowboys move up the Draft Success ladder significantly. Pure coincidence that they also move up the W/L ladder by two wins? I think not.

I was surprised to see the Giants so far up, but they had two very good drafts in 2005 and 2007. And weren't they Super Bowl champions a while back too?

New England quietly moves into negative Draft Success territory. Four out of their five last drafts have a negative value.

Another way to look at this chart is to find out which teams seem poised to dominate the next couple of years on the strength of the talent they've recently drafted. Look at the top right hand corner of the graph and you'll get a pretty good idea who those teams might be. Teams like the Jets and the Falcons have also drafted efficiently over the last five years, and it may just be a matter of time until the wins follow.

The danger with looking at a 5-year time-span like this is of course illustrated by the Cowboys' 05 draft: Once that draft is taken out of the equation, the Dallas draft record suddenly looks a lot worse. So what should the Cowboys do about that? Make the 2010 draft the best in franchise history, of course. And Approximate Value has provided us with the secret to draft success, free of charge:

Why trading down may be in the cards for Thursday

Av_25-50_update_medium The problem with looking at a huge amount of data, as I did in the first post on this topic, is that you lose a a lot of granularity at the individual pick level.

BTB member quincyyyyyy noted previously that "the value in the early second round teeters off after pick 48. So those first 15 or so picks in the second is where Jerry should look to move back."

The graph on the left plots 25 years worth of the historic Approximate Value of each draft pick in a lot of clarity. Notice that in terms of Approximate Value, there's not much difference between the 27th and the 50th pick. Sure, there are some ups and downs, especially in the early thirties, but essentially this is where you'll find most of the second-round graded players, and there's not all that much fluctuation in value.

Now, keep in mind that this is historic data and it may or may not repeat this year. But if there's no first-round graded player left at 27 that the Cowboys are interested in, Jerry Jones might well trade down. Chances are he'll get the same value a couple of spots further down. Plus there's an extra pick or two in it as well.

But careful though, these things work well with 20/20 hindsight, but war room reality is very different. Just give me four ballplayers, Jerry, and I'll be happy.

Draft Success by team (click column header to sort)

Rank Team 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 Total Positive Years
1 IND 35 19 80 13 66 21 -34 113 26 74 37 9
2 BAL 71 35 34 58 19 -49 3 1 20 49 27 9
3 PIT 19 19 -2 107 32 -3 25 -4 22 -49 21 6
4 NYJ 6 42 39 7 -35 51 13 -8 90 -20 19 7
5 NYG -27 35 -15 -14 47 43 69 -17 79 -8 15 5
6 CHI 8 76 -44 17 16 18 7 25 -5 16 15 8
7 CAR 39 16 30 19 -27 60 -16 6 31 19 14 8
8 GB 57 34 -60 57 23 -18 11 12 -1 -20 13 6
9 SD -51 -22 64 -17 -20 54 69 23 -23 -62 11 4
10 NE -19 28 -1 33 52 -24 139 -39 -49 -30 10 4
11 ATL 28 -31 19 -36 -21 32 67 -40 8 23 7 6
12 DAL 20 -51 -48 11 30 27 89 -43 -28 18 6 6
13 PHI 23 -26 -14 100 -42 -41 43 4 -18 -9 6 4
14 TEN 11 36 24 6 -44 -4 23 -4 -61 52 5 6
15 BUF 57 -45 25 -19 46 -23 -51 13 18 -56 4 5
16 JAC -34 9 -1 27 6 -9 10 61 -4 -41 3 5
17 DEN 46 6 -31 28 -63 -46 -7 103 -31 35 2 5
18 NO 21 34 -18 -9 -46 17 -26 63 -19 14 0 5
19 SF -6 -4 16 -28 -4 -36 7 -13 32 -33 -6 3
20 ARI -44 4 4 -72 38 64 -39 -22 -4 26 -8 5
21 HOU - - - - - - -13 -28 -39 -20 35 12 66 -10 3
22 SEA -57 1 5 -24 -16 -12 6 -4 11 10 -10 5
23 CIN -45 -42 54 -17 -13 -8 -37 -3 9 -29 -13 2
24 MIN -2 -9 -57 -18 35 -18 -73 5 39 17 -13 4
25 WAS 30 -36 -20 -25 -29 3 -25 38 -15 -27 -13 3
26 STL 19 -10 -18 -47 -7 30 -1 -55 -35 -29 -14 2
27 MIA -58 -28 0 26 -29 9 13 -48 -37 16 -16 4
28 KC -38 -24 -40 -37 21 25 -56 -3 7 10 -17 4
29 CLE -22 -48 -22 1 10 -9 -31 -24 8 -31 -20 3
30 OAK 12 -63 -60 4 12 -43 -23 -32 -23 -5 -21 3
31 TB -25 -14 2 -45 -15 -52 -37 -33 13 -23 -23 2
32 DET -44 -11 21 -33 -36 -18 -68 -54 -45 -9 -29 1

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to say, you need to get some sleep!

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009

by Realist Larry on Apr 20, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

What I find most curious

is how flat the slope is on the graph from 25 to 50 is. Thats just incredible how miniscule the drop off is there. This most definitely has strong implications for dropping back from 27 to say 40.

It also partially explains why Dallas has missed on so many 2nd round picks. As we’re often picking below #50. But it also highlights just how good Indy is at picking people for their system. They’re almost always picking after 50 and yet their overall numbers are the best.

by Ridgelake on Apr 20, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Trade Value Chart

OCC, I can’t thank you enough for all this number crunching you’ve done. Its absolutely incredible! Your post from yesterday has me thinking (a miracle, I know). A trade value chart could be constructed out of the expected return on pick data that you calculated.

We all know about Jimmy Johnson’s trade value chart. But as I recall, this was put together based upon trades that had actually occurred. Not necessarily based upon what the expected values of the picks are. This is a materially different premise of value.

I would think that a relative value chart could be put together based upon your data. And one could then compare that to the Jimmy Johnson versionn. I suspect they’d be materially different. And I suspect that yours would be more accurate or useful for trading purposes.

OCC, what are your thoughts about this?

by Ridgelake on Apr 20, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Alternative Trade Value Charts

Chase Stuart from Pro-football-reference.com looked at that about two years ago (The Draft Value Chart: Right or wrong). He also uses AV data, albeit not for the same time period I chose in yesterday’s post, and his conclusion was that while the AV approach and the NFL chart (or ‘Jimmy Johnson’s chart’ as he – correctly – calls it) yield different numbers they are both equally valid.

However, with the value of recent trades in the NFL, it appears that the old numbers of the JJ chart may be outdated. There’s a good article up on Mocking the Draft (2010 Trade Value Chart) explaining this in more detail and also providing some new numbers for the chart.

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 20, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some great links

I’m familiar with Chase from Footballguys. A great guy and an excellent analyst.

It is interesting that the two charts are not all that different. Some good points there. The 2010 Trade Value Chart is also a very nice piece of work. Though one curious point when overlaid to your pick 25-50 chart is that it would seem one would be materially better off with picks 49 and 50 than only 25 alone. Yet the points go to 25…

One thing that has been bouncing around my mind is the impact of diversification in trading down. Taking 1 pick and turning it into 2 lesser picks. Yes, the odds of the individual picks are lower, but I wonder if the diversification of risk improving the odds of getting a starting caliber player is appropriately captured in the points. I’m going to have to ponder this some more.

by Ridgelake on Apr 20, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

OCC, you saved me

From a cerebral hemmorhage. I cant thank you, Raf and Terry enough for the work you put into this board. I’m in Okinawa, so I come home from work every night to the best ’Boys news on the web. You guys rock.
As far as the draft, I believe it is more about finding a BALL PLAYER that fits your system. Position only matters if you are involved in a chess match with another team that is eyeing your pick. I see Jerry and Son being aggresive this year, they will get what we need.
I want to see two offensive linemen, a safety, a CB, and a FB. Think we should trade for a safety short-term who can start for us immediately, also.
Thanks again.

Anyone who says negative stuff on this board may as well be an Eagirls fan...

by BlueNSilverBlood on Apr 20, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

First thing that comes to mind...

’88, ’89, ’90 drafts for the cowboys. That is where we selected Michael Irvin, Troy Aimkman and Emmitt Smith. Now granted we had a great defense then too but it helps to draft future hall of famers three years in a row and to win 3 superbowls in 4 years starting 2 years after we Drafted Smith

Tony Romo off in dat hole, Watch roll and watch him throw, Watch him lead dem cowboys to the super bowl, now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys, Now watch me "yua!" crank dat cowboys!

by ProBowlFactory on Apr 20, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Draft strategy and team building.
is how flat the slope is on the graph from 25 to 50 is. Thats just incredible how miniscule the drop off is there. This most definitely has strong implications for dropping back from 27 to say 40.
I would think that a relative value chart could be put together based upon your data

I think this is the most interesting finding of the reseach. If the drop-off between 27-50 is small, then there’s a double whammy benefit to trading back.

First, as everyone noted, the team acquires extra draft picks. In addition, if you pick an equivalent player at 50, you can also pay them less. Instead of first round money, you’re paying an equivalent player second round money, freeing up dollars for other players.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Apr 20, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

So

Do the Colts have the best scouts in the game, or the best coaches and coordinators? Or is it a combination of both? Are they good at just picking straight up talent, or getting people who fit their scheme? Whichever it is, they should get with Jerry and Co. and discuss

You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more

by markdamack on Apr 20, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

What it is that the Colts have is...

Bill Polian!!! Before he was with the Colts he was with the Panthers and the Bills.

Bill Polian is the President of the Indianapolis Colts NFL team. He rose to league prominence as the General Manager of the Buffalo Bills, building a team that participated in four straight Super Bowls, losing each time. Following his stint in Buffalo, Polian went on to become the General Manager of the expansion Carolina Panthers, where his initial success in building what was arguably the most rapidly successful expansion team in NFL history led to his moving on to the Colts. He has won the NFL’s Executive of the Year award 6 times (1988, 1991, 1995, 1996, 1999 and 2009). From Wikipedia.org

He wins wherever he goes IMHO

by IMHO on Apr 21, 2010 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Polian's Formula, simple really.
"You measure the talent available to you and you try to measure their talent as best you can, and all of the other concerns you come to the table with," Polian said. "Then, you try to take the best player. I just think you try to take the best player, basically."

It’s an approach Polian said the Colts take well beyond Round 1. In fact, he said, it’s a draft-long approach and has been for years.

"We don’t draft specific need almost anywhere," he said. "If the need line and talent line cross, then fine, but we try always to take the best player."

From colts.com

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 21, 2010 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone believe this bs?
Dallas is also exploring aggressive trade-up options. Owner Jerry Jones loves Dez Bryant and will consider moving into the late teens should the Oklahoma State receiver fall to that point.

Wow, if JJ is looking to trade up Dez would be the LAST guy I’d want. Specially that if he falls to late teens, the probability he falls to 27 is pretty darn big.

by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 20, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't buy it

I subscribe to the draft philosophy “Don’t believe anything you hear anytime after the combine.”

That’s why I think it’s such a joke when Kiper says one week before the draft, “Yeah, so-and-so’s stock is really rising.” No Mel, it’s not. No one’s boards are changing in the weeks before the draft because no new information is coming out about the players. Tape has been watched, measurables have been measured. The only thing that’s affecting team needs are veteran departures/acquisitions and the occasional private workout.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Apr 20, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?
Specially that if he falls to late teens, the probability he falls to 27 is pretty darn big

I think that if he starts to fall like that, Cincy, NE and Baltimore are very possible landing spots.

RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.

by aussie_cowboy on Apr 21, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Patriots and Eagles get too much credit for their drafting prowess

As you showed, OCC, the Pats have been outright bad in recent years, and the Eagles have had to rely on free agency to cover up some of their bad drafts (with the 2002 draft buoying their stock disproportionately).

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Apr 20, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

NE is the second best team in the AFC east at best.

The Jets are better and if the Dolphins get good QB play they may have a better record this year. The Pats should have a good draft this year, but the players they get in the draft probably won’t help them that much this year.

In an interview Willie was ask if he was thinking about retiring. He paused for a moment, smiled and replied " I play music and golf, which one do you think I need to give up"?

by DIRE WOLF on Apr 20, 2010 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Can you explain

why the pats draft of 2005 is so off the charts???
It gets 139 (pts.?) the next best gets something like 113! I even think the boys 2005 draft was better yet it scores 89?

by Ojete on Apr 20, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Matt Cassell in the 7th helps quite a bit

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Apr 20, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Part of it is the way that I calculated Draft Success

Remember, the Draft Success number is not a quantitative measure that measures the total output of a draft class, but a qualitative one that looks at how successful a team was with the picks they had available. NE’s 2005 Draft:

1st round: Logan Mankins (32nd), 2 Pro Bowls, 46 CarAV, 80 games started
3rd round: Ellis Hobbs (84th), 25 CarAV, 71 games
3rd round: Nick Kaczur (100th), 35 Car AV, 68 games
4th round: James Sanders (133rd), Car AV 19, 69 games
7th round: Matt Cassel (230th), Car AV 25, 45 games

A further 5th and a 7th rounder never played a game in the NFL

5 eventual starters with some late round picks, that is a very good draft by any measure

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 20, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

but the cowboys 2005 class isn’t too shabby… definitly not only by that wide a margin right?

by Ojete on Apr 20, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cowboys 2005 class may be one of the best ever

Raf make a compelling case for the 2005 in his latest post Thriving in Hell.

In terms of total AV the Cowboys 2005 Draft class has 195 Career AV points, the Patriots ‘only’ 150. But the Cowboys also had 2 firsts (Ware, Spears) and a second in that draft, where NE only had one first.

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 20, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really surprised

by the fact that Rafael’s article mentions that the 2005 was one of the worst, yet by your metrics it’s by far the best.
Not only do the Pats get the highest total of any team in any draft, but 5 teams go over the 65 mark when in some cases not even 1 single team gets that (like in 04).

by Ojete on Apr 20, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

You shouldn't be :-)

If there is ever a question between Raf and me, the answer is simple: Raf is right. The reason Raf called the 2005 draft “hell” is that while some teams, like the Cowboys, did get it right, many others got it terribly wrong.

The fact that 5 teams go over the 65 mark is balanced by the fact that 9 teams are below the -30 mark, more than in any other of the ten years.

Where the table shows that the numbers are bunched closer together overall (like in 04) take this as an indication that the talent pool was better distributed among the 32/31 teams that year.

To fully appreciate the magnitude of the 05 draft class for the Cowboys, think of it this way: The players Dallas drafted in 2005 have a Career AV so far of 197. The total 05 NFL draft has a CarAV of 2791. Dallas got 7% of the total CarAV that year. From 99-08, only once did a team have a higher percentage: San Diego in 2004 with 7.2% (and Eli Manning never played a snap for them).

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 20, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Ed Warner actually do any real reporting anymore?

Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 20, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I Would Like to Echo All The Accolades

I’ve looked at so many Mocks I’m dizzy.Can’t wait till Thursday night.If JJ will listen to the football guys on the staff I think we will come out of this with players who will add quality depth to the team.

I just don’t see us starting a rook at LT or Safety.Jenkins is an excellent player but he needed a year to adapt to the pro game.So I don’t think anyone available to us will be a starter.Just my op[inion.

by TCB Orange Dino on Apr 20, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

OCC, thanks for giving us something to think about

leading up to the draft other than a mock draft. Mock drafts can be fun, but I’m a little sick of them right now. Is it Thursday yet?

"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin

by 24Hz on Apr 20, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

OCC,

How familiar are you with portfolio theory and the benefits of diversification to hedge risk?

by Ridgelake on Apr 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

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