Cowboys Draft 2010: What They're Saying About Dez Bryant
by Aaron Novinger on Apr 25, 2010 3:00 AM CDT
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PrintThe draft frenzy has now come to a close. But what a start for Dallas! The Cowboys' trade to grab WR Dez Bryant has had the entire NFL world buzzing. Aggressive? Yes. Wow? Yes.
As you read earlier this draft weekend, OCC gave us a glimpse of what other SBN bloggers had to say about the Cowboys adding Dez Bryant to their offense and special teams. Now, let's take a look at what some folks associated with the team had to say about the pick, beginning with #11.
"Yeah, with Dez it opens up competition which brings out the best in the guys," Williams said.
"So to me whether we drafted him or not, we wanted to be the best in the league. It doesn't matter who they draft, I have to focus on my game. It's not about the quarterback, the offensive coordinator, it's on me."
More from Roy:
"If all goes well -- not trying to talk noise -- but if all goes well, we'll have the best wide receiving corps in the league," Williams said. "Dez is a big dude, he can play. He will help us win some ballgames."
"Obviously they want to get more weapons out there, which is good, and I support whatever is done," said Austin, who was at Valley Ranch working out on Saturday. "I've see the way he works and how he does it and I think he'll be a great asset to the team."
[snip]
"I'm loving it," Austin said. "It's great. It's an awesome city and I have no complaints here. No complaints from me."
WR Coach Ray Sherman:
"I’ve coached a lot of different personalities in this league and everbody has something," Sherman said.
"When you get a guy like with his something that can be corrected, why not take a chance? They try to put him in the mold of Randy Moss. Randy Moss is a little different. He had legal issues. This kid has none of that. Very polite, yes sir, no sir. Very polite."
DC.com Q&A with Sherman here.
Patrick Crayton's agent, Fred Lyles:
"I am not surprised with the direction of the Cowboys. Crayton is a professional and accepts the decision(s) assoicated with the NFL business."
Drew Pearson on the team's new #88:
"They take your game away, your chance, your opportunity and all you can do is get on your knees and pray to get another chance, another opportunity," Pearson said.
"I think he's been humbled. Jerry [Jones] saw that. Unfortunately other teams didn't see that, but I think this young man will have success in the NFL."
Jesse Holley's tweet to Tashard Choice:
@tchoice23 yooo TC23 what do you think about our pick last night??
@Mr4thAndLong he solid we gone need him. Holly u just do u. You gone be fine
"Wow. Wow," Jones kept repeating. By picking Bryant the Cowboys have added another big name to an already star-studded core of skill position players.
"It's another weapon we have on our offense," Jones said while watching his newest teammate hug friends and family."
"From what I can see, I believe he's happy. We'll all be happy with a pick that makes us better."
"He's coming into an offense that was already in the Top 5 last year," Sanders said. "He has a terrific quarterback in Tony Romo coming off his best season and he has an excellent receiver in Miles Austin and an excellent tight end in Jason Witten."
"There's no pressure on him to carry the offense. All he has to do is run his routes, catch the ball and let the game come to him."
The man himself, Dez, on the Cowboys:
"They believed in me," Bryant said. "They chose me. It's a blessing."
Some highlights from Scout.com's Q & A with Dez:
ON MEETING ANY CURRENT TEAM MEMBERS: "I met (Tony) Romo and Roy Williams. We didn’t say too much to each other. We introduced each other, and that was about it, but that was about it. But it was great. I’m very anxious. I can’t wait. I’m ready for the mini-camp. It’s a dream come true."
ON WHETHER THE COWBOYS MENTIONED HE COULD RETURN KICKS: "Yes sir, they did. They talked to me about it. I’m very excited to do that. That’s one of the things I love to do."
[snip]
ON IF FOLLOWED MILES AUSTIN: "Yes sir. Miles (Austin) is a phenomenal player. All the wide receivers of the Cowboys are phenomenal. I did enjoy watching (Austin). It’s exciting and I’m excited that I can be their teammate. It’s just a great feeling."
Jerry Jones doesn't think Dez will need a babysitter.
"We will not devote extra resources. He will work with what’s naturally there. Now we will call upon some resources ,like a Michael Irvin, people like that, that really know what it means to be here and being a good pro, and your obligations to everybody."
Jerry Jones' call to Dez (audio).
Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones discuss Dez in the team's post-First Round Press Conference.
WR $$$, courtesy of Todd Archer:
Roy Williams - $12.952 million ($9.5 million bonus, $3.452 base salary)
Miles Austin - $3.168 million (first- and third-round tender offer as restricted free agent)
Patrick Crayton - $2 million (base salary)
Dez Bryant - ????
Relive the War Room moment.
Bryant's '08-'09 highlights and lowlights, courtesy of ProDraftParty.com.
Ed. Note - Next in this series: What They're Saying About Sean Lee
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First and foremost
I’m happy for Dez and the ‘Boys for getting a potential impact player. It doesn’t seem like Crayton’s agent is too happy though.
If you had told me a year ago that we would get Dez Bryant in this draft, I would have told you that you were crazy. Absolutely great pick.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
+1 Last year I absolutely loved Crabtree after seeing him play. Someone said he wasnt even the best WR in the Big 12.
I thought they were crazy until I saw Dez play.I thought, “Damm this guy can play too.” Doesnt matter, we will be picking even higher next year. You let it go and you just dont entertain it. You just dont do that to yourself. When Jerry scheduled that dinner with him, I thought Jerry was being stupid and looking for a photo op. Didnt want to go there. No way this guy falls past 12-15 even with his past and workout.
The top four picks come and go. Then he gets by Miami, SF with 2 picks, Denver, Giants, Seattle with 2 picks, Titans, Bengals, teams that need a big play WR. When he makes it to 20 Im dumb founded.
I have seen rich teams somehow get even richer late in the 1st round but that just doesnt happen to us anymore.(Curse of Moss)
I have been one of the biggest voices about upgrading our OL but when a gift falls from the football gods you dont questioned it, you pounce and say thanks.
Thanks football gods and thanks Jerry for being aggressive.
Come on July! Lets strap it on and go!
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KICK ASS every day!!!
Austin and Witten and Dez, oh my!
Austin and Witten and Dez, oh my!
Austin and Witten and Dez, oh my!
Austin and Witten and Dez, oh my!
TOUCHDOWN!
Can I be the first to coin the phrase Dezmanian Devil? (So long as he is only Smurfette OFF the field. lol)
That’s a good term, I hope it proves to be true on kick returns. Because it all seems we have forgotten our special teams.
by Jonathan Bradley on Apr 25, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
that better include punt returns as well
thats where he’ll do most of his damage this season
In Romo we Trust
Dez is going to be the #2 WR on this team this season....
RW is going to the slot…
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
I think
it’s a reference to Drake’s song Over where he says “I’m doin’ me”.
He just means work on bettering yourself and you will be ok. But you will notice he didn’t say you will be ok on this team.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 25, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I was thinking the same thing…LOL
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Apr 25, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Goldang, son.
You done lived a purty sheltered life iffen you ain’t picktup no dialects.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
those damn kids these days
with their mtv and havin the sex and such…..
by missingthe90s on Apr 25, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
those damn kids
with their mtv and their havin the sex and such
by missingthe90s on Apr 25, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's what I saw in that tweet ...
You gone
by GalTex on Apr 25, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll say it quick and then get out
Roy W sounds sincere, got to admit he shows class. I realize his $:production = not good, but think back a couple years and imagine what T.O. would be saying in the same situation. Yeah we should get rid of salary if we can, but nobody held a gun to Jerry’s head.
My point is it so nice to be prima dona free. We have a real team, and it’s nice to add a guy who says ‘sir’ to the mix :)
Anybody notice that Dez can use his free hand like a third leg after the catch? Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down!
Notice too that he always finds
the ref to return the ball; he does not demonstrate diva status on the field. He was practically unstoppable at times.
I'm hyper-excited
Getting a guy with Dez’s upside to pair with Austin and Witten is fantastic. Romo’s got a legitimately top-notch receiving corps right now. If the offensive line can keep him upright, we could do some scary things this year-and in the future.
By the way, Jesse Holly, doing ‘what you do’ likely isn’t going to cut it, haha… you were kept on the practice squad as a publicity stunt, and your personal twitter account is as emblematic of that as anything. If Torrell Hudgins or Reshaun Greer show a semblance of talent, you’re gone.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
Wow
I dont follow college prospects as much as I should. And Dez wasnt on my very small radar. Three things i really like from that video
1. The defenders want to kill him! They hate him! That means hes doing something right haha.
2. The TD at 7:05. He has QB awareness. And all know how Romo can improvised.
3. He never ever falls down on the first hit. Three guys on him hes still driving his feet.
Omg I am going to love watching this guy grow. Get Irvin in here to teach him!
What the French?! Toast!
Get Irvin in here to teach him!
I say keep Irvin and Deion as far away as possible (too bad that’s not possible). I loved those guys as players but they are NOT good influences on young players
by StillHateTheGiants on Apr 25, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Irvin's a great influence
Micheal Irvin was about 2 things:
1. Partying with lots of women and the white stuff
2. The hardest working player in the NFL.
If Irvin gets involved, I’m sure his influence will revolve around #2. And he is the best influence there is in terms of work ethic.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 25, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure he'll preach about #2
But I didn’t see him say anything publically to help TO be less of an a$$. This kid needs people helping him make good decisions off the field, not enablers. That’s what Irvin was for TO.
by StillHateTheGiants on Apr 25, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Irvin was not talking to TO early in his career, they spoke as peers WR who can produce. TO was never going to
have Mike as a mentor. This situation can be different because Dez is a rookie.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I'm talking about the time TO was in Phil and Dallas
Irvin had a lot to say, none of it was remotely helpful in my opinion. I’m not saying TO would have listened but it gives an idea what kind of advise he might give a player.
by StillHateTheGiants on Apr 25, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I Think Irvin would be a huge positive influence on Dez...
after watching 4th and long.. .an yea I’m sure some of it might be cheesy… but you can’t deny when a person has a love and a passion for the game. He made some huge mistakes during his career off the field but sometimes its teaching people what NOT to do because you been there has a positive effect too. Irvin still loves the game and if you cut out training camp and shortened the season to 8 games he would be the first in line to sign up… He loves it that much… You want that love for the game to rub off on the younger players who only see the game for the $$$ an play with no heart.
Whether you think you can or you think you can't either way your right
by UnNessecsary Roughness on Apr 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree totally, and he has learned from his mistakes
There is a scene in “Boys Will Be Boys” where he seeks out RObert Jones after a game. When Jones was with the Cowboys he was ridden unmercifully by Irvin for being such a straight arrow. After Jones left Dallas (to Carolina?), he played against the Cowboys, and he gets a note after the game that Irvin wanted to see him. Jones said he had no idea what Irvin wanted, and almost did not go see him based on his past experience with Irvin. They met, and Irvin had tears in his eyes asking to be forgiven for what he had done to Jones and that Jones had been right all along. It is a moving scene
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
White stuff?
Snow? :)
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 25, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Scroll up and read what literally came from Jerry Jones' Mouth....
Irviin will show him how to handle being a super stud rookie wr on America’s team…you should always scroll up to read first
Did notice one flaw in Dez's game on the film...
He carries the ball like a loaf of bread at times and always in the left hand. Hopefully those habits can be overcome by good coaching. Just saying..
Relax, we have Ray Sherman.
He’ll take care of any and all issues.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
If he is carrying the ball, that means that he hasa caught the ball, which is more than can be said of ROy
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
What happens if Roy Williams & Bennett produce?
I tell you what, if we can get anything out of either player our offense is going to be downright scary. OL is still a major issue of concern, but the weapons at the skilled positions is unbelievable. Our three-headed rushing attack, Jason Witten & the likes of Austin & Bryant who will destroy single coverages, the arrow is pointing way up.
for them to produce you first need Romo standing and not running for his life.
I am hoping the Minnesota game was a fluke and this line can protect him….I would hate for other teams to realize that’s the easiest way to beat the cowboys…..pure pressure down the middle. Colombo, Free, and Kozier have to get the job done…..If we have injuries, the season could be doomed.
Part of the Problem
Was receivers weren’t getting open early, thank you Roy Williams. Another problem is the line allows jail breaks every so often. A third problem is Romo sometimes hangs on too long when he should just throw it away, which makes the line look worse than it is. Up until last year, a fourth problem was Garrett wanted to run too many deep routes, which made the line look worse still; he grew up some last year and started mixing in screens and slants. Hopefully Bryant will get open earlier than Williams, which will relieve some of the pressure on Romo.
You don’t need All-Pros at every line position to succeed. Talent in other areas and playcalling can work around it.
I'll say it again: I think the converse was true lot of the time (with regard to #3). Romo's
mobility often made that line look better than they are. They also cannot run block to save their lives; I remember Raf bitterly defending Garrett’s run play calling, arguing that the failures weren’t in the lack of variety in the calls, but in the execution by the line . The line they are starting with (if JJ doesn’t make some magic in free agency), is the one that got crushed by the Vikings. Magical play calling didn’t fix the problem last year—and it went a lot deeper and over a longer period of time than just the Vikings game— and I don’t see how it’ll change things this year.
I’m over the draft. I just need Jerry to go out and get that veteran free agent he was talking about.
Unless I'm Badly Misunderstanding You
I think we’re in violent agreement. Romo’s mobility helps with problem number two, but hurts in problem number three. It works both ways.
Well, not exactly. I don't agree that it's just occasionally that the line breaks down, and
supposedly Romo has one of the quicker releases in the league, so, while like most QBs, he occasionally holds the ball too long, I don’t feel like that’s a significant reason why the line often looks bad. You also didn’t mention the bad run blocking. So, we’re non-violently in agreement? Sort of? I definitely agree about the receivers needing to get open earlier and that the situation was helped when Garrett stopped forcing the long routes so much. I absolutely agree that we don’t have to have an all pro at every position to succeed, but I still think the Cowboys need to beef up that line with, at worst, better quality depth, and, at best, players who can challenge the starters. Every season, play calling or no, the line wears down, and this last year, all year, they simply couldn’t contend with some of the better defenses. That’s fine if we’re content with winning a playoff game or two, but are we content with that? What happens if we do make it to the Super Bowl (pray with me), and we face the Jets? Hell, we have to play the Vikings in their house again next season. Will Romo survive it this time?
Basically, what I'm asking is that Jerry do more than he did yesterday
to upgrade the line. So, maybe I’m just preaching to the choir? Not sure.
It Comes Down to Drafting Value
It would be great to snag Iupati or Pouncey or Okung. You willing to throw away Bryant, Lee, and several other very good propects in next years’ draft to get them? Do you believe we should have reached for a Ducasse, who they graded out as a fourth rounder but who was taken in the second, in lieu of a first-round talent as linebacker who can fill another major position of need? Or do you expect Brooking to repeat his performance at age 35, or James to suddenly morph into Tedy Bruschi at age 30? If the draft board is correct, picking Lee over the offensive line projects in the second round is a no brainer, IMO.
Maybe we disagree on this? I’m not sure.
I'm fine with Bryant, but, yeah, I would have preferred to take one
of the linemen still available when Lee was taken. I don’t believe ILB was a more immediate need than O line. Now that it’s done, it’s done, and I’ll support Lee, just like I support anyone in a Cowboys uniform until they give me a reason not to want them around. As I said, I’m over the draft, and now I’m counting on JJ to go get a vet.
Here's the Crux of the Problem
The scouting department didn’t rate highly any of the remaining offensive linemen when they were at 55 or 59. They thought we would have been reaching—Ducasse, for example, had a fourth round grade. Their choice was between a first round LB who would be a great long term player, who doesn’t come along that often, and a fourth round tackle in the Free-Marten range. If you miss on Ducasse, we’re right back where we started, and we missed out on a first round talent, besides.
I’m frustrated as anyone with the declining talent on the offensive line, but in the long term I’m convinced they made the right decision.
Other Than the Emphasis You're Placing
On Romo’s decision making—immaterial of his quick release, I’ve still seen him look several seconds for a receiver when he should just get rid of it after about three ticks—I’m struggling to understand where we disagree. We seem to hold the same viewpoints, other than Romo’s internal clock. Is that subject really worthy of a lengthy debate?
It's an interesting theory
a nd iof Romo is holdong ot too long I’m thinking they’ll work on that in the off-season – more slants, bubble screens, faster hitting plays. But I would guess that about 80% of the problem is line break down. Of course against some teams it’s worse.
As to where they should have gone, I’m not sure either. I think this was a very good draft. But like Fernie I remain concerned about line play. And picking up washed up veterans to back up washed up (or fading) veterans is concerning to me. Had they come away with just Pouncey and Bryant, I would have been ecstatic.
We’ll see what happens next. I am one of hte BTB optimists so I’m not simply hand wringing. This looks like a looming issue. Hopefully I’m wrong.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Wow
that was some terrible typing. My apologies for setting the English language back a few centuries…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Pouncey Was My Guy Too
But we would have had to pay a king’s ransom to get him. Do we forgo other areas to just draft one really good center? In my mind, the answer is ‘no’. Take the value you can (two guys in the top half of the first round with picks 24 and 55) and try to get by with what you have. It’s not perfect, but I believe it’s optimizing what you have.
This whole thing is a tough one for me
I think they drafted really well, probably better than last year, but the line is weaker spot than anything else on the team. Especially going into the future. What I fear is that Jerry is minimizing that fact in his mind. This last season looked like a foreshadowing of bad days to come…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Roger
I hear you and the others, loud and clear. But the question is, when you’re on the clock, who do you draft? Do you reach for a subpar offensive line talent; turn in all your chips to draft one really good player; or try to maximize your talent? Those are the three choices we have.
I badly wanted Unger last year. I badly wanted Pouncey this year. I badly want to kick Proctor and Robinson and Holland to the curb and save two roster spots. But the problem is their good replacements come at a price. Do we pay the price, and neglect other areas? I don’t think so; I think the price was too high.
I won't know the answer
because I have no access to the scouts and their assessments. But I’ll say this… if Dez was rated as a top 10 pick and Pouncey as a 20-30, I’d have taken Pouncey as long as the scouts thought he was a solid pick. But I also don’t know what the coaches know about their line, their prospects and what they think will happen in the rest of free agency. My misgivngs stem only from the fact that they have ignored the O-line in the past and appear to be ignoring it now.
I’m quite hopeful that I’ll be wrong and people will be digging up my posts and rubbing them in my face a year from now…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Ah But You Do Have Access to the Scouting Assessments
The Cowboy’s draft board has been leaked out.
Lots of fun discussion about it.
I don't like drafting WR's in the 1st round...
because of the high bust rate, but I am on board with the Dez Bryant pick. To me this is just as exciting a pick up as the Tony Dorsett trade up was.
I am as worried about the O-line as anyone but blitzing the Cowboys when they have Miles, Dez, Tree (in the slot), Wit,and Felix on the field at the same time is going to mean points for the Boys.
IMHO
By the way the best response was from an Eagles fan I post with on another
board. “Noooooooooooooooooo. Haaaaaaaaaaate.”
I wasn't impressed at all with Dez's press conference...
Nervous answers, bad speach, real discouraging….hope it was just nerves. Sean Lee sounded great.
If All We Have to Worry About
Is his less than polished public speaking, I think we’ll be in great shape.
If he can be a playmaker, he can be the offensive speaking equivalent of Leon Lett, but he will have a harder time not
talking to the media than Leon did.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Didn't see it
But unless he was being a jerk it wouldn’t bother me at all. The guy is a young kid and probably more nervous than he’s ever been. You can’t hold that against him.
by StillHateTheGiants on Apr 25, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Just Nervous and Unpolished
He seemed sincere and polite, just uncomfortable in front of the cameras. Not a big deal to me.
Heres to hoping we dont have to hear him speak again until HOF speech.
Not knocking his speech or intelligence. I just want to see his play do all of his talking.
He will get better at public speaking.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Gotta Disagree
I would love to hear him speak during his time alotted slot prior to a couple of SBs.
by eodfootball on Apr 25, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
nothing against his (in)ability to speak in public, but ...
I just want to see his play do all of his talking.
works just fine for me, especially as a bold, LOUD statement
OMG....give it a break already with the speaking correctly garbage.He is probably just nervous or not used to speaking in front of crowds...
I didn’t know you had to be a model speaker to be a good NFL player….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
When Patrick Ewing was drafted by the Knicks
They hired a speech specialist to help him not only with his speech but also being comfortable in front of a large group of reporters
Yeah...
Two words for you on speaking…Emmitt Smith.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 25, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Dez Bryant is not an articulate speaker
The Cowboys didn’t draft him to give public addresses. He’s there to play
wide receiver.
by Rafael Vela on Apr 25, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
They have Jerry, Romo and Brooking for sound bites.
His presence behind the podium is low on my list of concerns.
exactly...Just funny how the haters need to pick on something that is so irrelevant..
As long as the kid is tearing it up on the field I could care less what he sounds like in a press conference.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Exactly...
And I don’t think that automatically should impact what people think of his intelligence. I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again, he was an All Academic player.. not just all american all ACADEMIC in 2008. So he’s not a dumbass.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 25, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not too impressed with your posts
Bad grammar, lack of knowledge, unnecessary pessimism, not too enjoyable. Hopefully you’ll learn…
by ChrisRichey on Apr 25, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 25, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
FEAR the STAR.
"You have been banned from Bleeding Green Nation" -JasonB
by .FRoST.USAF on Apr 25, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on Apr 26, 2010 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, no kidding
Sorry the kid didn’t grow up like Grant Hill with a silver spoon in his mouth. The guy had a terrible upbringing, and he’s done alright for himself, academically as well as on the football field. No problems with drugs, girls, violence, nothing. In my mind, there are no issues. That’s all perception.
"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends."
by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Apr 25, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions
Its 24 hours later—time to grade those drafts
Since everyone always says you don’t grade the draft until at least 2 years later… I thought I’d get mine out there 24 hours later.
My grade is a B.
I think we netted a significant player in Dez Bryant and a probable future starter in Sean Lee. Both appear to be well thought of and both might have been value picks where they went.
Rest of our draft is comprised of good prospects. None appear to be reaches and we didn’t pass-up any significantly more highly “rated” player to pick our guys. I can’t imagine any of them will be penciled-in for anything beyond special teams, but we can have hope that there are real players among them. Maybe one or two can be impact players in 2011 or 2012. But whomever becomes a significant contributor has beaten the odds.
On the downside, we didn’t get an interior lineman. I assume we could have found a center/guard in the 4th-6th rounds that could have beaten “green light” Procter and given us upside.
And we only have a new project with AOA at safety. Alan Ball (undersized, still a project), Hamlin (basically a rookie still—6th round talent), AOA (a project who isn’t ready today), Watkins (a special teamer who can fill in). I don’t have confidence in that line-up.
I would have been ecstatic if we had passed on Sean Lee and instead managed to trade our 59th pick down (not up) to net us an early 3rd and 4th. And with those picks, would have hoped to land a FS like Burnett or Wright and/or C like JD Walton or any of several guards. And, if desired, still get a ILB later in the draft to back-up James.
Goose gave Dallas a C and Denver an A
I don’t understand an A for Denver. A huge reach in the 1st at QB and a small reach at WR. Dallas with a C is about right, he also gave Philly a C. A lot of bodies, but not a lot of players.
Has that tool ever given us a better grade than a C.
He may put out a good list because he has many contacts across the league but his own eye for talent rivals Tex’s eye for QB talent. That is to say he has none.
KICK ASS every day!!!
I'm not sure that he has ever.
Subjective. Goose, stick to the mocks and leave the evaluating after to the coaches and fans. How could he possibly know when it takes 2-3 years after a draft to really determine?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
The whole "grading" thing is self-serving
essenatially they are telling teams how close they picked to their mock lists. It’s a ridiculous process when you think about it.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I agree
Too bad some guy with a lot of time doesn’t go back and grade their mocks and post draft grades to see how accurate they were.
by StillHateTheGiants on Apr 25, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
Im sure if you dont hit on your biggest needs first they dock you.(No OL) But then if you go with your biggest need 1st and do what you feel you have to do to get that position/player, they dock you more.(SD,Jax)
Its great when you dont answer to anyone and can be critical of everyone else.
What did he give Philly, he alsways kisses their asses.
KICK ASS every day!!!
We could have EVERY pick in the first round
and Goose the Tool would still give us a C. I’ve always disliked that guy. Wish Randy Galloway had never discovered him.
by Road Warrior on Apr 25, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
How is Allan Ball a project?
When he stepped in for Hamlin, there was virtually no difference. On the other end of the spectrum, when C.C. Brown replaced Kenny Phillips for the Giants, they got beat on deep balls as if they were pledges rushing a fraternity.
Ball deserves a little more credit, as does the Boys front office.
I hope the Cowboys keep Crayton
With Dez having the same agent and adviser as Crabtree it might not be a lock to get this kid singed quickly. Plus how many rookie WR have pro bowl type first years. Austin had a break out year last year, but in other years he seemed to get nicked up a lot. And who knows what RW will bring to the table. I would like to see Crayton stay as an insurance policy
The crabtree signing is a little different, in his draft heyward bey was taken by the raiders in the top 5, I think crabtree was
in the top ten and crabs agent knew the raiders took bey because of his speed (and because the raiders are crazy). The only other WR that was taken before Dez was Thomas and he went in the 20’s, so the leverage is not going to be there as it was for Crabtree.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
the cowboys have a good relationship with eugene parker i think
he’s deion’s guy, right? also they never seemed to have much trouble with rosenhaus or the condons (sp???)…
Crayton is finished
He will be knocked down to the 4th or 5th WR position now and they know he wont be happy with that….
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Yep
As much as I like Crayton for what he is… his value has dipped, and he now is definitly not the PR anymore.
I hope he is traded or let go because I like the dude.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 25, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Me Too
Worked hard, willing to go over the middle, makes tough catches, good straight ahead punt returner. He gave everything he had and became a solid third receiver. With Bryant and Owusu-Ansah though, I don’t see how he stays on the roster. He will be 31 and would just be blocking Ogletree’s development
On one of the last "lunch break" shows eatmen talked about the day that Miles was starting ahead of him.
Crayton was not notified by any of the coaches, he came out to practice and saw that Miles was lined up in his spot and eatmen said that crayton looked like he was a littled teary because he knew he had just lost his main job and no one told him. I think he will be better prepared this time around, because he knows what he can do and what he can’t do.
The event took place after roy had returned to the line-up.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Sadly, I agree
I think Crayton is a perfect #3 in this situation – with Austin and Dez. But Jerry is going to insist we use “manos de piedra” Williams. It’s too bad because Roy can’t go over the middle like Crayton and doesn’t have anywhere near Crayton’s hands. I can only hope Ogletree finds his way on the field in the slot and sends RW to the bench permanently.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 25, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Off the roster would be a better spot for him
He’s saying the right things now, I’m willing to be he’ll be a total disruption when the reality of not starting sinks in. Crayton is a better as a #3 to me, he’ll do the job and not whine and pout
by StillHateTheGiants on Apr 25, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
BTW…love..love the 4th round CB selection. Just from what I heard he shouldve been a 2nd round pick if not for his shoulder concerns. Sounds like he will be a starter for this team in the near future if everything about him is true.
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Once again we agree strongly.
He has ridiculous athleticism.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 25, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It's probably just me
But I completely like Roy Williams as a person. He’s a nice guy, doesn’t strike anyone as a bad influence in the locker room.
And some of his comments last year cracked me up. Like when he said that he was lulled to sleep during games and when the ball came his way it surprised him.
by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 25, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions
lol that made me laugh too
but the dude is getting huge amounts of cash to be a WR not be a good person.
Overall i think if this year he doesn’t produce he should be gone
But it's nice to see a good person succeed than a jerk
I’d love to see RW break out this season. For him and of course for the team.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I remember seeing him one game in Detroit
Maybe against us… maybe a Thanksgiving game. But he was all over the place. I remember thinking “Wow! This guy would be dominant if he were on a better team”.
I honestly don’t know what happened. He seems to have pride. It’s not about enjoying his most recent paycheck. But he is horrible on the field for us.
by JimmyJohnson on Apr 25, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why I want to give Roy Williams at least three more games.
Because he has been so horrible here, I think a lot of people forget how good he was with Detroit. They just look at his numbers and think that they aren’t impressive, but he was drawing all of the coverage. Detroit had a converted safety playing across from him as the other starting receiver. There was nobody else on that team even vaguely intimidating, and Williams still looked good.
If Roy can get back to even a part of what he had in Detroit, with Austin and Bryant on board here, this could be the greatest receiving corps ever seen. Then when you think about Witten and Bennett at tight end, and Felix and Choice at runningback, this has the potential to be one of the greatest offenses ever. But a big part of that dream coming true is Roy Williams playing to what he is capable of.
Hmm
Roy really only had one good year with Detroit, but I know what you mean.
Let the chips fall where they may
Alot of what held him back in those other years
were injuries. He is hideously injury prone, but he does have a lot of talent. Of course, there are a ton of guys who had the talent to play in the league, but for one reason or another never put it together.
Well, more to the point
Dez won’t be a super-star from game one. Even if he’s ready, the team’s approach has been to ease young players into the line-up, and they’ll do the same with Dez on offense. So they NEED RW to perform well for the early part of the season. Or the Tree if Roy struggles again.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I love that
when they announce the trade …. all the NY fans just go ape. You know it hurt them to see the Boys grab Dez like that.
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