ESPN's Perloff Slams Cowboys' 1st round pick
by HutHut on Apr 26, 2010 4:19 PM CDT
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Perloff says that Bryant is a bad pick because Dallas has a woefull record evaluating WR's and dealing with character problems.
His reasoning is Roy Williams, Pac Man Jones, and Tank Johnson. Granted Perloff is just a talking head talking, and his three examples are ugly. However, for a team that can't evaluate WR's, Mr. Perloff seems to forget Patrick Crayton and Miles Austin. I think the issue is Jerry not being good at trading for a #1 receiver. Both times he's done it, he's failed in spectacular fashion (Galloway and Williams). The next time Jerry wants to trade for a #1 receiver somebody better kick him in the grapes, double-quick!
The Pac Man/Tank experiment was low risk/low reward. Pretty much a wash. They had trouble with the law. Bryant is not in that category of bleep-ups. Dallas' dealing with Tank and Jones was as good as or better than every other club.
So because of this, the WR every draft expert, personnel guru, and scout were raving about is sure to be a bust. Puhleeze. I'm going on record as predicting 700 yards receiving and 6 touchdowns for Bryant in 2010.
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Funny this clown slams us, but everyone and there uncle loves the pick...
#88 Dez Bryant-Welcome to the Cowboys!!!
In the NFL world, nothing sells clicks like taking a shot at the Cowboys
whole careers have been launched and maintained with it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 26, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I, believe it or not, Like Jamie Dukes
I never feel like he’s taking pot shots at anyone, he’s just giving his honest opinion. I’ve heard him bash the cowboys, i’ve heard him praise the cowboys.
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
It's sad, isn't it?
That these media types get more attention and make a name for themselves when the slam a team they despise (the Cowboys), rather than praise someone they like.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on Apr 26, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats pretty much Perloff's game
He just makes controversial statements that most still don’t take any notice of.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 26, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The last high round WR we picked
Antonio Bryant, even he was a knucklehead but he is a pretty good receiver, we suck at trading for WRs not drafting them or picking them off the UDFA list
Miles Austin – undrafted, now probowler
Crayton – 7th round, good solid player
Ogletree – UDFA good talent, lots of potential.
But with all teams there are misses, drafting and trading for players is completely different
This guy is an idiot
Before Dez the only 1st round receiver we picked up I believe was Alvin Harper who did great w/ Irvin, and before Harper it WAS IRVIN. We don’t pick WRs in the 1st round very often but they are typically good players
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 26, 2010 4:33 PM CDT reply actions
let's remember to give Perloff grief...
when Dez is an all pro in the coming years.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
You read the comments poor Mr. Perloff got?
90% of the respondents told him he was a moron.
there will always be Cowboys haters
its inevitable
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 26, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is Perloff?
He is just some no name that wants to get attention by sounding controversial. I doubt he believes the junk he writes himself.
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
i've never heard of him either
I know he has never written anything I thought was a good article or I would remember his name
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 26, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is everyone so defensive?
None of you know if things will work out w/DBryant.
It’s a 50/50 gamble, Jerry has taken a calculated risk. The payoff could be huge, and since it was a fairly high pick in the 1st round, he went for it.
If he doesn’t work out, the loss will not be that serious, because they already have their “#1” in Miles Austin.
Even Jerry would admit (turn off your cell phones!) that it’s a risk with this kid. Every pick is, but he comes with a little more baggage than some.
The guy is very immature. We don’t know what his work habits will be. We don’t know what kind of teammate he will be. He missed last year!
20-something other GM’s passed for a reason.
I’m not being a pessimist, just realistic. We’ll have to wait and see. But the surety with which some of you are already labeling him a Pro Bowler (After Raf laid out for you what to expect from a rookie WR in a good post) is amazing.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
The only thing that scare me about Dez is the fact that he didn't play much last year
But if you watch what he did his freshman and sophomore years, and assuming he picks up where he left off, people have every reason to be optimistic. I’d say the odds are in our favor he works out for us.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Apr 26, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
for one thing
Tank was not a problem for the Cowboys. By all accounts he was chill and under the radar. If Rat was not such a beast he may still be on the team.
So basically Perloff is an uniformed muckracker. I get tired of all these writers dragging peoples names in the gutter for no reason. In that sense, what’s all this garbabe about Dez anyway? I got a 20 year old brother. I can’t get him to be anywhere on time and if he knows me or his other brother are about to come down on him, he may tell a lie here and there. Does that make him the scum of the earth (as Dez is sometimes portrayed)? No.
Perloff is a punk.
by RisingSunCowboy on Apr 26, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
In the case of sports"writers" that are muckrakers
They don’t, and never did. That’s the problem. They are twerps. You know the ones that would do anything to get attention? That’s Perloff.
by RisingSunCowboy on Apr 27, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions
So basically Perloff is an uniformed muckracker
I was making a joke
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I GET JOKES! lol
Except the one time I misunderstood your comment on the grand blocking ability of our soon to be backup left tackle, Mr. Roy Williams! :)
Backup? BACKUP?!?! The dude is starting and will be a STUD!
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I don't know who this writer is, but everything he says is true:
1) “Pacman” (what an idiotic nickname) was a failure.
2) Antomio Brytant showed promise, bt for whatever reason, failure.
3) Roy William.. do I need to say it? Failure in bold.
4) Terrel Owens: Failure ( looks god stats-wise for 2 years, but didn’t help the team. And managed, as could have been predicted, to blow up the lockerroom. debatable, I gues, bt let’s just say he was no overwhelming victory for JJ.)
5) He doesn’t mention Tank.
I think Jerry Jones has done a decent job lately, but he likes to take these gambles. Many have not worked out. Big Deal! Can’t you admit it? He got lucky with Charles Haley and has always thought he could repeat that.
6) Finally, everyone says DBryant doesn’t have character issues-“All he did was meet with Deion and then lie about it.”
That shows stupidity and immaturity. i can’t believe how many are giving him a complete pass on that. Het hrew away a whole season, let down his teammates, and put a dent in his whole future. Dumb.
He may have learned, he may never have another problem, but he really needs to prove it, because whether or not “the NCAA rules are stupid and unfair”, he knew them and made a hugely bad judgement-then lied about it!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
wow-lots of typo's. Good Night!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 26, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Its illogical to conclude that TO was a failure
Saying that he put up great stats but didn’t help the team doesn’t make sense. He played very well and lifted our offence to an elite level.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 27, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree completely.
I was okay with the Cowboys decision to go in a different direction from T.O. since I thought he was on the decline, but to say he didn’t help the team is ridiculous. If somebody told Tony or Jason that, they would be the first to genuinely disagree with that assertion.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Apr 27, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
we sure did well once he left though, huh?
But this is an old argument— neither side will ever convince the other they’re right
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Then why do you continue with this boring post. Every one else has moved on from TO.
Give it a shot.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Duh. If you look above you can see I was replying to CBFan 729, who used the word 'ridiculous'
to describe my opinion.
If you don’t mind, and I have your permission, for now I’m going to retain my right to respond to others.
Is that OK with you ?
Oh, and I did put it to rest:
“neither side will ever convince the other they’re right”
Until you jumped in !
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Causation doesn't equal correlation my friend
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Apr 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
never said it did
see below
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
When you write "we sure did well once he left though"
I believed it sounded like you were mistaking causation and correlation. I apologize if I misinterpreted.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Apr 27, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
well, I am, a little tongue in cheek
you see, I do believe there’s a connection. But I know others don’t, and that you can’t really say. Football’s complicated and one guy doesn’t make all the difference. But I def. think it helped having him gone last year!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The whole Deion thing was just a kid with his hand in the cookie jar moment
It was actually a ridiculous punishment. Had he just come clean, chances are he wouldn’t have been suspended. He lied because he was nervous. We’ve all done it. Might make him somewhat immature, but hey…he’s not the only rookie coming into the NFL this year that’s immature. He does happen to be much more talented than the vast majority of them, however.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Apr 27, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Realist, chill out.
First, what does Pacman, Antonio Bryant, Roy Williams and Terrel Owens have to do with Dez? Pacman was a failure. But guess what, that was Pacman’s failure. Roy Willy sucks. But, again, what does that have to do with Dez.
Second, you are quick to say he got lucky with Haley. Can’t you just as quickly say he got unlucky with Bryant, Pacman and Roy Willy? Perloff is trying to say that the Cowboys don’t know how to judge character or don’t know how to draft. Its disingenous and wrong. You bought that line. Not me. And yes, he doesn’t mention Tanks. The guy who made the fanpost said he mentioned him so I went of that. I can admit my failiure to do my proper due diligence in that case.
Third, it may be a sad commentary on society in general, but many people lie on occasion to cover their arses. This kid is getting a bad rap and its punks like Perloff who spread this stuff and guys like you (that eat it up) that keeps it going. Also, he did not break any rules. He thought he may have, but he didn’t. And also again, the kid was 20, from a broken home and facing the prospect of millions being taken away from some meeting. Are you really (really, now) saying you would not have lied in his situation? Come on, guy?
by RisingSunCowboy on Apr 27, 2010 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say I agree with the guy's causality, did I ?!!?
I’ve repeatedly said it’s a risk-Jerry Jones knows this if you guys don’t, and that we’ll have to wait and see.
You guys need to chill out, dudes…
My point was, again:
All of what the guy says is actually true. Why so defensive about a ‘mediot’ you all claim to not care about?
And, many of you are giving Dez Bryant a complete pass. I believe in personal responsibility more, I guess, and also know that he can’t have a complete pass, that only time will tell if he makes another ‘mistake’
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
He was a college junior on his way to the NFL
He should have known by then.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
How can you "+1" Larry's comment
yet also comment that you think Sean Lee is going to be a Pro Bowler? Doesn’t the same level of uncertainty (if not more so due to his later draft position) apply to Lee?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Apr 26, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't apply logic to someone that doesn't used logic.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 26, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I just find it hilarious since they are completely contradictory ideas.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Apr 26, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
use*
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 27, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
you're one of those guys
“The guy is very immature. We don’t know what his work habits will be. We don’t know what kind of teammate he will be. He missed last year!”
How do you know he wont be? You believe everything the media tells you? I’m with you on the whole “we dont know what he’ll be” but to call the guy immature, i think is pushing it. Every even that happened with him, other than lying to the ncaa, was his freshman year. And hell, I would’ve lied to the NCAA as well…wouldn’t have to ask me twice. My dream, my future, everything i’ve worked my whole life for and the NCAA wants to ruin it because you had dinner with someone who was probably a hero of yours growing up. Absolutely, i’d have lied to them everyday and twice on sunday. I’d still deny it.
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
Hmmm, OK
“How do you know he wont be? ’
I don’t. I’ve been saying we don’t know! Isn’t that my point? Why does that bother some of you so much? It’s like you have to believe there’s no questions about this guy cause ”your" team drafted him.
And, I’m sorry you think breaking rules and lying is no big deal, but to each his own.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 27, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
ROFLMAO
His arguments were nothing short of ridiculous.
1-It wasn’t just the Cowboys that rated this guy a top talent. Everybody knew he was the top receiver in this draft.
2-Dez Bryant is NOTHING like Pacman Jones or Tank Johnson.
What a moron.
by Cowboysaficionado on Apr 26, 2010 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
co-sign
Is playing smart too much to ask?
by silverblue5 on Apr 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Had Dez gone to Baltimore, NE, Denver, Pittsburgh, any NY team, etc.
this would be heralded as a can’t miss pick. He went do Dallas, now his character issues(non existent) are serious concerns and it’s a big risk. Predictable.
Epic Fail since 1985
So, are you saying he's a 'can't miss' prospect
as much as one of those exists?
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 26, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying that at all
There’s no such thing. ANY pick comes with a deal of risk. I’m simply saying that Dez is going to be labeled a bigger risk than he actually is simply because Jerry fell in love with him and decided to move up to get him. I’m not crying media bias, I’m simply saying there are a handful of dumbass writers who hate on ANYTHING Jerry does.
Dez isn’t a can’t miss, though. Maybe he’s a diva, I don’t know, I haven’t met the guy. But most reports come back fairly positive. He’s a good dude who has a little growing up to do. NOBODY debates his talent. Almost EVERY scout had him in their top 10. It’s not a can’t miss, but it’s certainly well worth the risk at 24.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Apr 26, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds like your problem is with the media, and you're pretty realistic about Bryant's chances.
I guess I’m so used to media bias (in all areas) I don’t bother letting it get to me!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He's their designated contrarian
Hence the column title “Against the Grain”, sort of a devil’s advocate thing. I generally find his columns thoughtful and well-written, in part because he always has to go against consensus; so he doesn’t often fall into the lazy echo-chamber reportage that most sports journalists wallow in. Although I sometimes wonder if he buys what he’s selling.
I love that pick though
With Dez, the Boys will match and surpass Roofiesburger and the Stillers in titles.
These guys were having wet dreams hoping Dez would be a Cowboy
They are out of the tired old storylines to write about for the Cowboys.
We got rid of T.O.
We got rid of Tank/Pacman
Romo won a playoff game
Now they have something to write about.
That makes no sense. First off, Bryant isn't a legal problem like Pacman and
Tank, so that comparison totally fails (at least I hope it stays that way). As for Roy Williams, the main thing it proves is that Jerry sometimes overpays for veteran players. He got Dez on the cheap in terms of what he gave up to get him. This guy is the definition of a “mediot.”
Eh.
Just a guy with an opinion.
You know what they say opinions are like…
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 26, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Perloff is da Jerkoff
that most commenters on SI.com (me included) rip on and seldom take seriously.
It’s like he’s their designated “chain-yanker” who’s barely a grade above intern, trying to work his way into the ranks of Stewart Mandel, Chris Mannix, and Don Banks… but is probably fetching them coffee, proofing their drafts, and wiping their toilet seats before/after they take their afternoon dump.
don’t pay any attention to his drivel… and if you do every now and again, feel free to join the fraternity of us registered hecklers over there.
Is playing smart too much to ask?
Yeah...
He’s generally isolated to the SI blogs and the bottom of the site. He’s not exactly the A team.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 27, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
In defense of Perloff
He just published a 2011 mock draft, and has the Cowboys picking 30th.
Even sweeter, he has the Eagles picking 16th and the Giants 18th.
But the Redskins in the 20th spot make doubt everything I wrote in the first two lines.
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 27, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions
his way early 2010 mock had Dez at #8
and Ciron Black at #31
Perloff is McLovin on the Dan Patrick show
Anyways, players have off the field concerns all the time. Percy Harvin was in the same boat last year and look how well he did in his rookie season. Sometimes it’s worth taking the risk.
Haha really?
I didn’t know that.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 27, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Quick google image search
“That nerd looks familiar….isn’t that….no, can’t be…that’s the dude on the Dan Patrick show.”
Oh and for people that don’t know him outside of this article or don’t watch or listen to the show he’s a HUGE Philly fan. Shocker.
That's pretty funny.
I love the DP show though.
Anything said above is purely the opinion of AFB unless said otherwise.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Apr 28, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
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