Consolidated Cowboys Draft Board
by Requiem on Apr 27, 2010 5:45 AM CDT
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PrintThis is my first post as I usually don't feel that I have much to offer nor the time to offer it in. But since I like analyzing sports, stats, and strategy, in general, and since I already got sucked into creating this for my own analysis, I thought that I might as well share.
Areas for improvement
- End of the 3rd Round Grades (I don't completely have all the information as it's pretty hard to read the names as the camera for the video swings by. I know I'm missing a WR, but I'm not sure if it's Mike Williams or Emmanuel Sanders. (It is NOT Arrelious Benn.) I'm also not completely sure about the TE or the order of the last 5 3rd round grades.
- 6th and 7th Rounds. I strained my eyes trying to figure out who some of the names were, I'm not quite sure if I got the ones I got correct, but they're to the best of my knowledge.
- I'm not sure what the Black magnet breaks are for. There's 4 of them: 1 at the end of the 1st round, 2 in the 3rd round, and 1 in the 4th round.
- I'm not quite sure what the break down by position is. I'm pretty sure about the Defensive positions, though I'm not quite sure what the 5th column (the one with Wootton and Geathers) is. The offensive positions, I'm a little confused about the last 3 columns, as the last column is barely filled and the 6th one seems to have "OT" in there as well as Gs.
- Positions are just guesses as to where the Cowboys assigned players. This was mainly used to confirm suspicions about who a "nametag" was. For example, there were 8 WRs with a 3rd Round Grade. That allowed me to confirm that the 3 of the unknown 6 3rd Round grades were WRs.
This work expands on the great work that JBell523, Theebs, Cowboysaficionado, and 24Hz did in posting the pictures and videos for the draft board and in getting a first draft of the Cowboys' Draft board up.
Quick thanks to starmesh23 for contributions.
Cowboys' Draft
- 1st - Bryant, Dez [WR] Ranked 1,12
- 2nd - Lee, Sean [ILB] Ranked 1,14
- 4th - Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi [S] Ranked 4,1
- 6th - Young, Sam [OT] Ranked 5,4
- 6th - Wall, Jamar [CB] Ranked 5,15
- 7th - Lissemore, Sean [DE] Unranked
List of Notable Missing Players
- Tebow, Tim [QB] (1,25)
- Cook, Chris [CB] (2,34)
- Benn, Arrelious [WR] (2,39)
- Dunlap, Carlos [OLB] (2,54)
- Cody, Terrence [NT] (2,57)
- Spikes, Brandon [ILB] (2,62)
- Angerer, Pat [ILB] (2,63)
- Brown, Charles [OT] (2,64)
- Walton, JD [C] (3,80)
- Griffen, Everson [OLB] (4,100)
- Campbell, Bruce [OT] (4,106)
- Williams, Mike [WR] (4,101) - added 2012/03/10
- Hernandez, Aaron [TE] (4,113) - added 2012/03/10
- Atkins, Geno [DT] (4,120) - added 2012/03/10
ED (2012-03-10): Got some additional pieces of information:
Here and Here which changed around the board. From the first, I was able to get the 7th round name of the TE, and a concern that Aaron Hernandez was actually NOT on the board. This led me to look closer at the videos in which I was able to determine that Raf was correct, and Hernandez was NOT on the board, and instead I had messed up the last of the 3rd round grades. Instead of Hernandez, blank, Shipley, Beadles, ??????, Hardesty, Gilyard, it turns out that the last of the 3rd round grades was Hardesty, blank, Shipley, Beadles, Jimmy Graham, Sanders, Gilyard. This fits with the number of names that were at each position in the 3rd round.
In addition, I was able to determine the correct column names for the last 3 columns on the defensive side of the ball, and have updated the post to have those correct names. And to see some of the names on the 6th round grades.
| 1st Round | 2nd Round | 3rd Round | 4th Round | 5th Round | 6th Round | 7th Round |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bradford, Sam [QB] (1,1) | McCourty, Devin [CB] (1,27) | Kindle, Sergio [OLB] (2,43) | Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi [S] (4,126) | Lauvao, Shawn [OL] (3,92) | Veldheer, Jared [OT] (3,69) | Thurmond, Walter [CB] (4,111) |
| McCoy, Gerald [DT] (1,3) | Thomas, Demaryius [WR] (1,22) | Davis, Anthony [OT] (1,11) | Arenas, Javier [KR] (2,50) | Ford, Jacoby [WR] (4,108) | McCoy, Chris [OLB] (7,212) | Easley, Marcus [WR] (4,107) |
| Suh, Ndamakong [DT] (1,2) | Misi, Koa [OLB] (2,40) | Wootton, Corey [DE] (4,109) | Ducasse, Vladimir [OT] (2,61) | Batten, Danny [OLB] (6,192) | Hoomanawanui, Michael [TE] (5,132) | Kafka, Mike [QB] (4,122) |
| Okung, Russell [OT] (1,6) | Hughes, Jerry [OLB] (1,31) | Robinson, Patrick [CB] (1,32) | Dickson, Ed [TE] (3,60} | Young, Sam [OT] (6,179) | McClendon, Jacques [OL] (4,129) | Byham, Nate [TE] (6,182) |
| Williams, Trent [OT] (1,4) | Graham, Brandon [OLB] (1,13) | McCluster, Dexter [KR] (2,36) | Conner, John [FB] (5,139) | Teo-Nesheim, Daniel [OLB] (3,86) | Young, Willie [OLB] (7,213) | Tracy, Adrian [OLB] (6,184) |
| Berry, Eric [S] (1,5) | Allen, Nate [S] (2,37) | McKnight, Joe [RB] (4,112) | Harbor, Clay [TE] (4,125) | Thomas, Kevin [CB] (3,94) | Minor, Brandon [RB] (UND) | Chaney, Jamar [ILB] (7,220) |
| McClain, Rolando [ILB] (1,8) | Burnett, Morgan [S] (3,71) | Riley, Perry [ILB] (4,103) | Geathers, Clifton [DE] (6,186) | Sylvester, Steven [ILB] (5,166) | LeFevour, Dan [QB] (6,181) | |
| Haden, Joe [CB] (1,7) | Mays, Taylor [S] (2,49) | Jones, Chad [S] (3,76) | Pitta, Dennis [TE] (4,114) | Muckelroy, Roddrick [ILB] (4,131) | ||
| Spiller, CJ [RB] (1,9) | Weatherspoon, Sean [ILB] (1,19) | Washington, Daryl [ILB] (2,47) | Troup, Torell [DT] (2,41) | Stuckey, Darrell [S] (4,110) | Olsen, Eric [C] (6,183) | |
| Iupati, Mike [OL] (1,17) | Williams, Dan [DT] (1,26) | McCoy, Colt [QB] (3,85) | Mitchell, Carlton [WR] (6,177) | Verner, Alterraun [CB] (4,104) | ||
| Thomas, Earl [S] (1,14) | Jackson, Kareem [CB] (1,20) | Price, Taylor [WR] (3,90) | Johnson, Mike [OT] (3,98) | Arnett, Alric [WR] (UND) | ||
| Bryant, Dez [WR] (1,24) | Mathews, Ryan [RB] (1,12) | Houston, Lamarr [DT] (2,44) | Jerry, John [OL] (3,73) | Sims, Eugene [OLB] (6,189) | ||
| Bulaga, Bryan [OT] (1,23) | Price, Brian [DT] (2,35) | Smith, D'Anthony [DT] (3,74) | Joseph, Linval [DT] (2,46) | Graham, Garrett [TE] (4,118) | ||
| Lee, Sean [ILB] (2,55) | Gronkowski, Rob [TE] (2,42) | Williams, Damian [WR] (3,77) | Wright, Major [S] (3,75) | Jones, Reshad [S] (5,163) | ||
| Odrick, Jared [DE] (1,28) | Ghee, Brandon [CB] (3,96) | Decker, Eric [WR] (3,87) | Franks, Dominique [CB] (5,135) | Wall, Jamar [CB] (6,196) | ||
| Pierre-Paul, Jason [OLB] (1,15) | Clausen, Jimmy [QB] (2,48) | Gibson, Thaddeus [OLB] (4,116) | Asante, Larry [S] (5,160) | Eldridge, Brody [FB] (5,162) | ||
| Morgan, Derrick [OLB] (1,16) | Peters, Corey [DT] (3,83) | Moeaki, Tony [TE] (3,93) | Skelton, John [QB] (5,155) | |||
| Wilson, Kyle [CB] (1,29) | Saffold, Rodger [OT] (2,33) | Petrus, Mitch [G] (5,147) | Jones, Art [DT] (5,157) | |||
| Pouncey, Maurkice [C] (1,18) | Gerhardt, Toby [RB] (2,51) | Tate, Ben [RB] (2,58) | ||||
| Bowman, Navarro [ILB] (3,91) | Tate, Golden [WR] (2,60) | Chancellor, Kam [S] (5,133) | ||||
| Best, Jahvid [RB] (1,30) | LaFell, Brandon [WR] (3,78) | Roberts, Andre [WR] (3,88) | ||||
| Alualu, Tyson [DT] (1,10) | Spievey, Amari [CB] (3,66) | Lewis, Myron [CB] (3,67) | ||||
| Gresham, Jermaine [TE] (1,21) | Neal, Mike [DT] (2,56) | Pike, Tony [QB] (6,223) | ||||
| Asamoah, Jon [G] (3,68) | Ward, TJ [S] (2,38) | |||||
| Hardesty, Montario [RB] (2,59) | Butler, Donald [ILB] (3,79) | |||||
| Woods, Al [DT] (4,123) | ||||||
| Shipley, Jordan [WR] (3,84) | Schofield, O'Brien [OLB] (4,130) | |||||
| Beadles, Zane [OT] (2,45) | Worilds, Jason [OLB] (2,52) | |||||
| Graham, Jimmy [TE] (3,95) | ||||||
| Sanders, Emmanuel [WR] (3,82) | ||||||
| Gilyard, Mardy [WR] (4,99) |
| # of Defense Ranks | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Round | CB | S | ILB | OLB | DE - 5 Tech | DT-Nose | KR/Specialist |
| 1st | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 0 |
| 2nd | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
| 3rd | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 1 |
| 4th | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 1 |
| 5th | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| 6th | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 7th | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| # of Offense Ranks | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Round | WR | RB | QB | TE | OT? | G? | C? | Total |
| 1st | 1 | 2 | 0? | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 23 |
| 2nd | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 16 |
| 3rd | 8 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 29 |
| 4th | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 27 |
| 5th | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 18 |
| 6th | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 9 |
| 7th | 1 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 |
Please feel free to post more information/corrections.
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So are you telling me
that Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell and Thomas Cam were not even on the Cowboys’ board?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Well, in a sense,
Cam Thomas was specifically under UDFAs.
Charles Brown and Bruce Campbell may have been under UDFAs but were NOT 3rd round grades, which is the only place they’d fit.
If you take a look at the video during Sean Lee’s pick, there’s only 1 3rd-round-grade offensive lineman who was still on the board. And since we know that Asamoah was definitely on the list, it has to be him.
Therefore, neither Charles Brown nor Bruce Campbell had a 3rd round grade, and since they can’t be any of the other rounds, they either were not on the board or were UDFA grades.
Yep
what did we say at the very beginning? 120 players or so on the board? What do they have here? 129?
Brown didn’t fit their profile for an OT. I wonder if they just didn’t rate Campbell. Thomas is a bit surprising, but is he one of those four black marks? I wonder if that’s for guys they graded and then removed for medical issues or failing at test or the like?
The black marks
Are just dividers.
For what purpose, I’m not really sure. But they stay the same throughout the video. So, I’m pretty sure that they are not actual draftees (and it would make the # of 1st round picks = 24 if we were to include them).
When the Cowboys are drafting Lissemore, you can pause the video on the positional draft board, and you’ll see Cam Thomas’s name under DLs in the last category (which I’m assuming is UDFA).
Thinking about more
I think you could be right in that the magnets were players who were on the list but were removed due to character/injury/flaws concerns.
If you take a look at the big board during the video, you’ll notice that 3 players were surrounded by black ink the whole time:
Aaron Hernandez (maturity concerns)
Vladimir Ducasse (competition concerns)
O’Brien Schofield (injury concerns)
It’s possible that those magnets WERE previous players who they removed from the board because there concerns became validated. Otherwise, it doesn’t make much sense to have them in the middle of random rounds.
makes sense
Jerry has said he doesn’t mind taking players with some baggage, as long as it isn’t drug related. I’ll take Dez being late to practice as a freshman over a kid who fails a drug test when he KNOWS he going to be tested anytime.
Anybody thought that just maybe...
Jerry and Co were aware that someone was taking photos or filming their draft board? You have ZERO idea that this board`s legit. It could just`ve been another smokescreen tactic designed to divert other GM`s into bad moves. I just don`t see us having SPiller as high as 9 considering how loaded we are in the backfield
Do you really think that
even if another GM saw this board that they would actually change their own choices, because I don’t. And secondly, didn’t this come after the draft?
Spiller is rated as the 9th best prospect in the draft, doesn’t mean they would necesarily take him even if they thought he was BPA. Bradford is rated #1, doesn’t mean he would be the guy they wanted the most.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 29, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Need does not affect player grades!
I don’t know why people are so bent on this idea but there are only three things that affect where players are ranked on the big board:
1. Input of the scouts.
2. Injuries/Injury history.
3. Scheme.
They had Bradford 1st
And they don’t need a QB…
All this talk about the release of this picture or this part of a video is kind of nonsense… They know who took the video and they had the power to stop the release of the video to the masses, but what’s the purpose for something that had already passed?
And furthermore, by allowing the release of the board, one of the first things that received most of the knee jerk reactions, the lack of OLineman picks, was kind of answered… The Cowboys liked the guys at the top, but that was it, they didn’t liked most of the other guys… By allowing the release of the video, they gave the power to the fans to see what they were thinking.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Very Nice
I appreciate this very much. Interesting to see how the board fell.
I thought I heard they had Campbell a 3-4? And I read somewhere today that Brown has a history of back problems so maybe he was completely left off the board.
Good stuff
thanks to all of you for decoding this.
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 27, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions
Thanks so much for putting all this together, Requiem.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Under Jacques McClendon in the sixth, possibly
Willie Young, then Brandon Minor?
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Quite possibly
I’ll have to take a look when I get back home at my spreadsheet and see if they fit.
It does look like those are the names. Thanks!
Ok
Checked up on it again and it’s quite likely that the one under McClendon is Willie Young.
It seems doubtful that the one below Young is Brandon Minor, because by the time Sean Lissemore came up, there was nobody on the board, and Minor was undrafted. Plus, Minor’s a running back and there is only a WR or OLB with a 6th round grade left.
Right. I'll keep pondering then. . .
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Ok
I looked at the video again, and I messed up.
There IS a RB in the 6th round who’s not taken.
I just failed to transcribe it, I believe, because I didn’t have a good sense of what represented “taken” or “untaken” underneath the position draft board.
So, I’m putting down Minor there.
Sorry about the confusion.
Interesting
Makes you wonder how much we considered trading up for Wootton. Bit of a tweener in our 34, but certainly had some value building up in him at that point, given our board.
And would we have gone after Carlton Mitchell if he’d fallen to 179 from 177? Probably not after the Dez pick, but it’d be an interesting exercise in BPA philosophy.
this was his first year after an ACL tear
if he was good this year he should only get better. I had the same injury and it is a world of difference once that ACL issue is nearing the 2nd year. If they took this into account then I can see it.
it is nice to know that we got two players they really liked
wish the boards could be leaked every year
in thier scheme
maybe, since McCoy is quicker and is a little better at penetrating, i’ve seen some prospect ratings that had him higher than Suh as well.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 27, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
And the other 11 games he dominated OLs in.
McCoy is very overrated. He has talent, but has a very poor motor. Almost every game I watched him play he did not always try very hard. The bowl game especially. It always makes me mad to see a player just kind of leaning on the player across from them and he did that a lot.
A former pro DL guy said this,
Pick the guy who you think will adjust his game the fastest. McCoy has great speed and technique but poor strength.
Suh has great strength but shouldnt be able to throw Pro Olineman like he did in college without upgrading his technique.
If you believe Suh will get tehnique before McCoy gets strong, then get Suh.
If you believe McCoy will upgrade his strenght faster than Suh masters technique, McCoys your pick.
He loved both prospects and felt both had high ceilings but the guy to master his weakness the fastest would be the better pick.
I thought it made sense.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Strange they evaluated O linemen so much differently than most other teams
Stranger yet is Sam Young ranked ahead of Jared Veldheer. Guess both are RT only, and perhaps they like Young better for what they do, but still, a ton of people were really high on Veldheer.
Great work, man. That’s amazing. I couldn’t make out much of anything looking at the screens. Those dudes have terrible penmanship. Much appreciated.
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I think alot of it has more to do
w/ their personal taste for the team they are building, thats where the differences IMO come from, they all see it from different perspectives add that to how each player fits in said system that is how the grades shift so dramtically
by nicholas.rodriguez on Apr 28, 2010 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions
It only takes one team
Being high on a guy for him to be drafted high. Just because Vlad Ducasse went in the 2nd doesn’t mean that every team except us thought he was worth a 2nd. We only know for sure that one team did.
So if Buluga had lasted one more pick....
I presume they would have moved up – but taken him instead?
Also interested to see which team picked up Arnett. Given the Boys had a 5th round grade on him and he went undrafted – figure they would have chased him pretty hard.
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
Somehow
…I doubt it. It would make too much sense. I get the impression Jerry had his heart set on three or four players in the first. As much as it would’ve helped us, I don’t think Bulaga was one of those players. Dez obviously was. I just hope it doesn’t come back to bite us in one form or another.
Rabid and luvin' it
Dez was ranked higher
So no, they would’ve taken Dez still. But if Dez got taken at 23, they might’ve done that.
What about Sean Lee in the 1st Round?? Would you do it?
Been wondering this and would like opinions if it hasn’t been covered somewhere already.
Sean Lee was in the War Room First Round Top 16. If Dez have been off the board at 27 would the Cowboys have “stuck to their board” and taken Sean Lee? According to their rating he would have been a real bargain at #27.
Who else was available (yes, I could research but you guys have it memorized) from their top 16 besides Sean Lee at that point? I would guess any of those graded in the top 16 would be equally a bargain, but which one would they have taken if there was more than Sean Lee left?
I’m just thinking we all may have not been as happy with Sean Lee as our first rounder similar to the way I felt about Barbie Carpenter at the time he was our pick. Not based on talent but on the timing and my own unfamiliarity with the picks.
by StarMaterial on Apr 29, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Very nicely done Requiem
Rec’d… look forward to more of your posts in the future! Are you the prodigy of OCC? haha.
FEAR the STAR...it's all or nothing.... time to COWBOY UP.
Thanks for the kind words, guys.
Unfortunately, I’m probably not going to be able to post very much as my work keeps me busy. Heck, I don’t even have time to post on the Rangers, let alone the Cowboys :p.
I just wanted to share since I worked out some of the stuff, and hoped it would be helpful to others.
Besides OCC and Rafael cover the stats angle well enough, so that anything I would add would be kind of superfluous.
Great work
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 28, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Props from Bob Sturm
Bob Sturm gives a hat tip to JBell523 and quotes “the fabulous work of some hardcore Cowboys fans” in his latest post.
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 28, 2010 7:09 AM CDT reply actions
FootballOutsiders
are also carrying a link to both draft board posts.
Wait, did I just reply to myself? Oh boy …
by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 28, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
love that the post is getting so much press
and that the first comment is me saying I couldn’t understand how it was useful. cuz that’s not embarrassing in any way.
To be honest, I initially thought the same thing. I am glad that I did not put a "+1" n your comment
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Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
by APerfectStar on Apr 29, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 29, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as you haven't replied to yourself three times in a row you are still better than me.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Apr 29, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions
The second wave started on Monday the 10th
The Miami Herald ‘broke’ the story. DMN picked it up and at least they were able to properly source it.
Matt Mosely at ESPN also picked up the story, and quickly amended his story to include the BTB source.
The leaked board is now making the rounds again at Chicago Breaking Sports, broncotalk.net, profootballtalk and many other NFL fan sites.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 12, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The same guy has a good take on the DezB drafting as well..
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 29, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
But the link didn't show...
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Apr 29, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Arnett, Alric is one that doesn't quite make sense
According to the Board he is rated a 5th round pick – but he is still available as a UDFA – and most scouting services rated him a longshot even to get to a camp.
I scanned all the draft lists and figured it was Larry Asante – but then I saw you had him – and it looks right to me. So I scanned for another name but simply couldn’t find one. So I think you must be right – perhaps they didn’t bother with the UDFA because they figured they had all the receivers they needed to chose from – especially given he is a possession guy.
Requiem – I am impressed! That was tough work to try to figure out just that one. The letters are virtually indistinguishable (to me at least), so you effectively have to figure it out from the shape of the words. Great work.
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
Thanks for the kind words.
24Hz was the one to suggest Arnett, so while I’d like to take credit, it wouldn’t be right :).
And Arnett was just a guess from me,
although it really does look like his name in the photo. So it may not be right. I was surprised that Arnett would be on the Cowboys draft board, too
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Maybe it's Andre Neblett-
That would make way more sense. I’ll look again when I get a chance.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Well, I can't distinguish for sure.
Andre Neblett makes more sense, but he was undrafted too.
5th round under Alterraun Verner.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
I'm pretty sure you were right the first time
If you take a look at when Lissemore was drafted, there are still 2 names on the board who were undrafted.
One is Minor whom you identified and I confirmed after I looked at the video again and he’s shown as still available as a 6th round grade under the RB position board.
The other person on the board is the one you’re talking about, who’s listed under WR as a 5th round grade, and as the name also fits, I’ve confirmed it as Alric Arnett.
Okay, thanks.
At first it seemed Neblett made more sense but once I saw he was undrafted it didn’t, because we drafted Lissemore, another Dlineman, in the 7th.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
Tony Pike
Can’t help but notice that Jerry & Co. skipped over QB Pike (4th round grade) not once, but twice in the 6th round. Should we interpret this as a strong endorsement of McGee’s progress? If so, would that make Nichols strictly a camp body?
Or would you take it as the front office ignoring their board and addressing positions of greater need at the end of the draft?
BTW, tremendous job by those who deciphered the board and put everything together…
Good point.
RW is the opposite of WR. Coincidence? I think not.
by aussie_cowboy on Apr 29, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you make good points
about their liking McGee and about Nichols prolly being a camp body.
I also believe that they had higher than a 4th round grade on McGee in last year’s draft, and if they can only keep 3 QBs, it doesn’t make much sense for them to spend 1 of 6 picks in a deep draft on someone who you’re likely going to cut.
That’s my interpretation, though.
Thx for the kind words.
I was thinking along the same lines myself.
But while it is probably a good sign of McGee’s progress, not drafting Pike may also indicate that they don’t think McGee is quite ready to displace Kitna and assume primary backup duties.
My characterization of Nichols as strictly a camp body may have been too harsh, though. As a high priority UDFA, he’s probably headed to the practice squad.
Very nice work Requiem
Thanks for making the time to get all the info and present it in such a user friendly format.
I see that Dallas had John Conner rated as a high 4th, kind of high for a FB, they must have really liked him.
Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Felix Jones = defensive coordinator's Kobayashi Maru scenario
Great job
I have some pretty good digital video editing software so I looked at a (poor) copy of the video frame by frame and found that in some frames additional information is visible when Jerry moves his arm ever so slightly, and so my review of the video confirms that this Consolidated Cowboys Draft Board is accurate . In round three the names Jones C. and Washington D. are clearly visible. In round 2, I can see the end of Williams D., and the next line above it is visible “1-19” which was where Sean Weatherspoon was taken. I can post images if anyone is interested and I can figure out how to do that on this web site. The number above Baluga, B. 1-23 is definitely 1-24, where Des was taken.
Ooh
Can you get any more information from 0:18 – 0:20 of the same video of the list under the 3rd round grades?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN-V8LTw2-M
The only one I caught on that was Mardy Gilyard, most of the others are pretty unintelligible to me, and I’ve really only done a best guess for 4 of the last 5 guys.
Hernandez, I believe I saw in the part that you were talking about, but I’m not completely certain of him. But I’m more certain of him than the other 4 between him and Gilyard.
Requiem, you really deserve the accolades... I like the obsession for perfection :)
And for all involved, nice work gentlemen.
Try not to get into a pissing match with a skunk :)
I'll try to look at that part this evening . . .
and let you know. That part is pretty hazy though, being further away from the board and with the camera moving so quickly. I may be able to adjust the contrast/brightness to bring it out.
Gave it my best shot and . . .
no luck, I couldn’t discern any additional information. Would be great if we could find someone who recorded that show in higher definition.
Just to make sure
did you use the 720p version of that video? That’s the only one where I was able to get additional information. But it defaults to 360p.
Thanks!
This has been examined more closely than the Zapruder Film
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But can you spot the conspiracy?
Was it Jerry in the Grassy Knoll….
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
nice
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I can't believe we were 4 spots away from selecting Danny Batten
that really sucks
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
If they had followed their draft board exactly they would have picked him
He was ranked 1 spot higher than Young and was available at 179.
So they obviously do “tweak” a little for need – clearly RT a bigger need than OLB where we have 2 stars as starters and 2 carry-over draft picks from last year.
"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson
Nicely done guys.
I’d love it if this info was released every year, but it’s amazing that it was ever leaked.
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